Each week over at Android Central, everyone gets together to do up a podcast just as we do here with BerryFlow Upstream (tune in tomorrow!) and it just so happens, this week was all about the BlackBerry Priv following the Android Central and CrackBerry reviews of the device.
If you're looking for something to watch or listen to this weekend and are interested in the Priv, check out the BlackBerry Privcast with myself, Android Central's Russell Holley, Jerry Hildenbrand, Richard Devine plus, we also brought along CrackBerry founder, Kevin Michaluk.
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Weekend Watch: The BlackBerry Privcast
If android central (or mobile nations as it is) can all ge together for a podcast, why can't all of crackberry do the same? Damn we miss this allot! Maybe all of crackberry's writers can join in with upstream? Not a bad idea right?
Typed using my BlackBerry Classic running 10.3.2 on WINDmobile HSPA+
Really enjoyed the podcast, everyone had some pretty interesting points, opinions, comments, questions and suggestions towards the new BlackBerry Priv. As a BBPassport owner PLEASE ANSWER ME THIS... "could a Passport 2 having the specs as the Priv be in the making, and if so do you think it will be as well received as the Priv? (my question is based on the Passport form factor)
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Not really sure.
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Passport slider? Really? Actually I think I would like a side slider passport.
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Very informative podcast. Thanks to all. I like the hub a lot and get messages from many different apps. But it's personal I am sure. I did not think the slider would be so well liked. Makes me think BlackBerry should do a passport slder version too! I like virtual keyboards and think they can still be improved. BlackBerry should also work on that.
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BlackBerry Priv: a privilege to get Scroogled via BlackBerry.™
I don't want a Google account.
Only way bb10 stays alive is to integrate google play store with google services. Like they did with the Amazon app.
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Correct and do it now ....maybe the Hypervisor is the solution to integrate the google Play store ........heck I paid $10 to get Docs to GO with Google Drive from Amazon App store for my Z30 , It works great, I would pay $10 for the Google store why not ?? stop the maddness...they are apps eventually I see Apps become accessed on the cloud under one platform for anybody to access ....Hint ...QNX / Updating remotely
As long as it can be un-intsalled.
Isn't it ironic that you can un- install all BlackBerry apps from the Priv but NOT Google Playstore?
Do you have to register your phone and open an account with BlackBerry or only with Google when you buy the Priv?
You have to have a Google account. That's how Android works.
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thats what I am talking about, thats why there is no native file manager , Google wants the meta data access of your files activity and is the reason I am not buying the PRIV
Google Play Store requires Google Play Services. That is, if you're being official and above board.
And so here we are.
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I know. Thanks. That's why I hope BB10 will continue because BlackBerry on android is neither secure nor private...
Android Central 261 is indeed quite informative in discussing the new BlackBerry PRIV android powered phone. Good job.
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Anybody want to guess how many were sold over the weekend. Who knows maybe 10 million isn't a pipe dream
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Chen would not have allowed 1M to be manufactured for the first batch. He'd be in the situation Heinz was with z10.
The first indication should be that they have not sold out in the first day on ShopBblackberry like the Passport did.
Ya I don't see them making to many of them.
They did put feelers out with the pre-orders etc.
Let's hope it takes off, anyone see any form of advertising yet? Anything on TV?
Also were are they producing them are they able to make them fast enough if there's a big demand?
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Russell Holly was a GREAT moderator of the podcast, no offence to Phil Nickinson. Thanks for the cross platform discussion on the Priv. I've been on the fence about the device and still am, but you alleviated a few concerns for sure!
I just can't get excited about an Ancient phone. Perhaps I would get excited for a Samsung phone using BB10. The OS is what I like.
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Watching the HNIC on the Priv while posting from my Passport SE. Price screen is really nice.
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Whoops, I mean Priv screen. HA!
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Yeah, good video guys. Like the positive vibe all around and especially from those 'Android guys', very refreshing to see the BlackBerry Priv getting lots of love from people outside the BlackBerry community. Priv is a very nice device, really love this hardware!
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Love having the BlackBerry 10 Hub. It's such a good experience for me. Five email accounts, BBM, SMS, and phone. I don't use things like twitter or facebook, so I'm lucky that way. My Hub is awesome, love how it works on BlackBerry 10. I haven't used the Priv Hub yet, so I can't say if one is better than the other, but it would be pretty hard to equal the way the Hub is integrated with BlackBerry 10, not saying that the Android Hub would be bad though, just not that similar.
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It's good but not perfect. There is a bug that I can't seem to fix. Occasionally a text message will not delete from the hub or a read message won't become unread and then you can't delete it. Then it may just spontaneous go away. Kind of weird. I took my Z10 and compared setting to the Priv, virtually identical. Just laid out differently.
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I hadnt considerd the priv for myself until I tuned in. The android guys like it, which says alot on its own. The points regarding the keyboards usability are also a big consideration for myself now. Nice to see Kevin too. This could be a sleeper of a device that catches on and if it does maybe Kevin would come home.
Great video guys. Thanks
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I thought your name was blaize, when did it become chris?
Blackberry Passport
Lol. My son's name REALLY is Blaize.
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Can anyone confirm that a conversation style inbox is not possible on the Priv?
The hub is not a concept. It's an effective solution. I can do without social media on the hub, unless it's FaceBook Messenger, DM, LinkedIn messaging, etc. So I agree with Kevin that I prefer the full FB experience on my iPhone when I'm checking my FB, or a full Instagram experience when I'm checking my IG. I've disabled FB notifications on my BB10 devices because I think they're annoying.
But I love to have all of my messaging in one place. Setting OOO notifications from one place. G-Talk, BBM, Email, Text, all-in-one solution for me is great. It's a great mobile solution. My work email doesn't live in the universal hub because it would be overwhelming. But I have it partitioned within the HUB for when I do want to quickly triage.
I actually hate that GMail separates my messages. I have such a hard time finding things there. It's not helpful. I despise iPhone's email app. So I don't use it. I have the Gmail app which I prefer, but I don't use it either. I prefer to do it all on my Hub. The HUB does what you want it to do. There's still that same OCD when I see the 111 unread messages badge on the iPhone. But I choose to clear those out on my instead. So I really don't get it.
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I have two email accounst that fire off alerts and business and Medical info from 5AM to 8AM , I get them in my HUB so I can review the info , then I Hub Manage them out of the HUB...and/or leave them in the HUB. I color LED my accounts as well
Sweet, I will definitely check it out when I have time.
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Hey Android you can select what goes in the hub get educated about the HUB ....
yes Blaize we uneducated BB10 users who does not understand Android. The HUB is great in BB10 and a native file manager vs 3rd party file manager is no comparison
The hub can be configured to prioritize and any notification can be set to off! C'mon Kevin, where the hell is your BB10 hub familiarity?! You too Blaze...you could've chimed in as well! No, I'm not upset, just impassioned! ;-)
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See above. I know. But when I'm dealing with each thing (like Twitter, etc.), I'd rather have the FULL twitter app experience vs. the twitter hub experience. Just a preference for ME. I think HUB overall is solid concept.
Love the passion, so no worries.
Kevin I use twitter for fun and for business as you do I am sure , for me I get a tweet , go to the HUB send the tweet DONE I am out , but your correct if you want the experience the App is it.... correct
Uneducated? It's a bloody cell phone... There all cell phones that do pretty much the same thing!!!!! Using\adapting to the quirks of the Priv won't take that much time at all well for most it won't I'm sure. It's looking at the android user interface that's gonna take some time to adapt to. So clownish looking IMHO......
gmail app over the BB0 hub Kevin!? a piece of your credibility was just lost on me.
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Kevin likes the Gmail App vs the BlackBerry HUB what a joke .....I get all webinar etc...synced to my Google calender to my HUB ...come on Kevin
I couldn't believe it when the Android guy said that he couldn't get emails threaded on the Android version of the Hub.
That seems like an odd thing to leave out.
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I love the HUB concept overall for "normal" people... but when I hook up everything to it - twitter, facebook, emails, etc... it becomes just too much. I prefer to triage things more app by app for full experience. I choose to go through email... then later in the day I catch up on twitter, in the evenings I'll do facebook, etc. I get ADD by having everything in one spot. It's overload. Yes, I know can also triage in the Hub, but once I start seeing everything I can't ignore. So going more app by app works better for me.
It's a limited usage case and I know it's kinda lame... so don't read into it too much.
basically we are doing the same thing with the Hub , I triage all day, BB10 HUB Management in the email settings allows you to control what you want in the hub is very efficient and productive ...eg if I am expecting calls or facebook or linkedin messages I just add them quickly in the hub , get notified , respond ...then I remove them ....this happens everyday for me......yup I basically live in the HUB. I am also using a great Client File management app called Dossier where you can select key contacts you want for the app and attach files & notes to the contacts efficiently.....the developer said Hub integration is coming . Also I use Private browser where I can tap and hold on a link and I can open into a private browser or even open it with Zeus for flash purposes ....wonder if private browser is offered on the PRIV ? RMA is what I need ....I use it all the time on my Z30 and IT WORKS !
Exactly! The hub allows both, all integrated view or dealing with the stuff per account. And you can configure what's available in what way. It can hardly get better than that. (Of course it can but it's miles ahead of competition.)
Awesome podcast! Totally sold on the Priv after checking it out at the carrier stores today then watching this.
Just as a note, all of the CSRs seemed very excited about this phone... which is definitely a nice change!
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Just to piggy back on your experience:
I just visited my local At&t store and the rep that met me at the door at least knew what the Priv was...
Unfortunately, the phone was not charged and he didn't stick around to walk me through any of the features once it did charge.
Also, the display Classic was not turned on (at 2pm in the afternoon) and the display Passport screen was notifying all of us it had new software update.
Not convinced every CSR is going to do their best to promote any BlackBerry phone. I hope my experience is unique.
As we know, new things are hard...
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I hear you, and to be honest one of the stoked reps didn't realized their stores Priv was dead. Their galaxy 6 (6edge was demoing just fine) was also dead.
A lot of stores haven't changed their charging system and some of the newer devices won't work on the old plugs.
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Well, I was at ATT store on Blossom Hill in San Jose California to pick up my order online. I went inside the store and the lady rep greeting me and ask me what can she help me? I told her I'm here to pick up online order. She asked for my first name and told to look around while she will get someone to help me. Five minutes later, a guy came to me asked for my ID and than he went to the back room came out with my order of Priv. He printed me a receipt and told me he will assist me of setting up the device it doesn't take long - just a couple minutes, but told him I'm in an emergency have to leave right away, so he gave 1-800 number to call for activation. We shake hand and I left the store.
While I was inside the store, I saw they have big banner of BlackBerry Priv and also the demo unit is running. I noticed a few people want to get Samsung phone, but did not notice anyone at iPhone section.
Anyway, I don't have to call the activation number. Just pop the SIM card in and it work. It asked me about all the files transferring from my BB10 phone to the Priv. The only thing that puzzled me was why ATT sales' price more expensive than BlackBerry Store? Priv is so hot in the real device than in picture. Even with physical keyboard add to it still very thin and light for me. I think BlackBerry Priv is the best device of all the Android smartphones.
Great
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This is a great podcast! Pretty much answers all my concerns
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Star studded line up!
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Have not checked the audio yet but I would like to add this.
I have no major objections to the Priv hardware. Maybe I would welcome more color options but I am fine with the hardware design in general. My objections go to heart&soul of the phone – the OS.
From the reviews I have seen so far I think many users (especially current Android users) will welcome Dtek and its functions - as soon as it is fully functional.
Unfortunately, from the reviews I have seen so far it also seems to me that Google has more control/influence than I had expected. Google search has a prominent place on the Priv's screen. If you want to download any app you will need a Google Account. If you want to use the factory reset protection feature you will need….well…. Google Account. And I could probably go on.
I still have not seen web browser in action - it remains to be seen whether BlackBerry built some privacy protecting features into the browser.
Anyways, if someone names its device Priv (from Privacy) I would expect that the device can protect data I consider personal from being stored on the third parties servers. If BlackBerry is not willing or able to guarantee this I suggest them to change their slogan from “Priv – privacy on” to “Priv – privacy off”.
●Am I too demanding? No! I just do not want to get Scroogled!●
P.S. Thanks for the review Bla1ze. Downloading podcast..
Google stuff is required in Android. Unless you do an Amazon and build your own OS with it.
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That Google stuff is an issue for me, but you are correct, it has to be there for complete android. I listened to this podcast last night on ac and it would behoove people here to listen to it. I don't listen for a lot of the podcasts but I chose to on the last berry flow and this one. Good Priv information and explanations on Android and why things are like they are. I'm no stranger to android, but a lot of folks here are. Listen to it folks and let it sink in.
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Yeah.
I'm sure half the CB readers will love being called uneducated by the boss man lol
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Lol well you know as well as I do he had a point and didn't mean anything bad by the comment. There ARE several folks here that are uneducated in reference to android. Not stupid, just unfamiliar.
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Exactly, it wasn't meant to sound offensive. It opens the door for everyone to learn new things. I remember when every now and then I would pick up an Android device or iOS device and someone would see that on Twitter or something they'd pretty much hate on me for using those devices and I always made sure to note I'd rather be smart and know these systems then walk around blindly and NOT know how they work. It's called being prepared and knowledgeable. Some folks simply don't even know where to begin on Android and that's not a bad thing, I was just rather surprised by the amount and again, that opens the doors to learn new things as everyone should anyway. :)
Learning new things and becoming more knowledgeable and Discerning between right and wrong and using what you have learned to help others are good things. :o)
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If Google “stuff” is required on the device they shouldn't have named it Priv.
That's what I don't get.
Google doesn't exactly exude "privacy" lol
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It is clear that there is NO privacy from Google.
I have written in several other threads that Priv is NOT a name that should be used. It is deceitful.
I also have serious questions about security since monthly patches are needed with no coverage in-between.
The phone lacks security for 99% of the time.
Bb10 does not need monthly security patches and it does not take a month for BlackBerry to find out about them from Google.
I think BlackBerry has taken a play from its competition's playbook, and are using 'smoke and mirrors' or as you have said are being deceitful...
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Ha!
You said the "P" word lol
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Hmm, I didn't even realize it... I still have one of those things in a drawer here. Haha
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Maybe Black phone is better option..?
The fact that they didn't know iKevin's name is priceless lmao
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he's forever known as CrackBerry Kevin
Actually, he renamed himself "KM" lol
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And yet I interviewed and hired Russell! Respect though.. Russell, Jerry and whole AC team are #hardcore guys. They have their priorities straight.
Awesome! lol
I hope you have many pockets and have a little room in there for a BB10 device as well.
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Hi Kevin it's great to see MN Writers being so active replying to comment, definitely improved over the last year.
I will check it out, how come Nic from AC is MIA this week.
He decided to go to China
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Thanks! I guess will have to wait for his take on the Priv, it should be interesting considering that he's No BlackBerry fan.
24:00 the end of BB10... Bla1ze... please... change your mic!
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Sorry, traveling. Don't have fancy mic with me. Womp Womp.
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Blaze, is it not curious to you that the Priv doesn't have a dedicated file manager? Also, the Android device manager will not open as it will not except the Google account password. Do you know if BlackBerry has a FM in the works? What say you?
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My buddy moved from HTC to the Silver Passport. He was using the ES File manager on his HTC and did an OS update and it made a mess of its files , it created several file folders and his files were spread out into these file folders plus his encrypted / passcode PDF would not open he was absolutely livid and had to pay for a professional IT person to clean up and correct his file manager then I convinced him to move to Blackberry. He will not move to the PRIV without a native file manager. I am sure Blackberry looked closely at these file managers offered in the google play . Hope Blackberry adds the BB10 file manager to the app store for $2.99 and or recommends a file manager in the google play store.
Indispensable... only on 10... :-)
• AC/CB - back in black or highway to mobile h*ll? ;-P •
Blaze you should really get something like a Plantronic Voyager Legend UC.. simply the best for voyager like you (PC and smartphone base).
No one else will complain again. My customer around the world don't complain at all. They are event shocked when I told them I'm talking thru such device.
I will ask Kevin to get you one.
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Nice podcast, I enjoyed watching it. I didn't know any of these Android guys, being a BlackBerry BB10 User.
But I have to say they seem to be really decent and down to earth guys, that gave the BlackBerry Priv a fare and decent try. It was nice hearing everything that they had to say. Well done guys.
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