As we mentioned earlier, BlackBerry CEO John Chen recently sat down with Rich Karlgaard at the Churchill Club breakfast to discuss a wide array of topics from business transformation to cyber security to the emergence of the Internet of Things and where Chen sees the greatest opportunities for technology innovation and growth.
As expected, a lot of that discussion surrounded what's going on with BlackBerry and how John Chen is leading the changes there. The interview is about an hour long, so be sure to set aside some time to check it out. Want to cut the fluff? Skip to 33:10 and 53:30 for the good parts where John Chen discusses whether or not BlackBerry is building an Android device.
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I just had a seminar this morning on Malware. It's pretty damn scary folks. BlackBerry should be TOUTING its end-point security to businesses. I don't get it. I would go nuts if I actually saw a commercial about how blackberry f'ed up but now they are back with the world's best OS and most secure platform in the market. Cyber Warfare is the real deal and companies are getting burned with their open networks.
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I'd throw my iphone in the trash if the app selection was as robust as Google Play or the IOS store. Period. BB10 OS is the shi*.
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Thanks to JC decision to cater to business and ignore consumer customers, when my wifes Z10 died she moved on to a iPod 6+ and I decided that when my AT&T contract expires I will move on to Consumer Cellular ...So I purchased a used iPhone 5s from my Daughter in Law ...... Just to much pain from AT&T and BB screwed up upgrades on my Z10 . So we both are gone and probably will not return .
No offense but I don't look forward to an Apple and Android only world and believe slow and steady growth is possible for BlackBerry.
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iOS and Android own 97% of the market. There is little growth room for the others.
My next phone may be a Windows 10 phone. BlackBerry, you didn't believe in yourself or fully utilize your strengths. Growth is slow. It is normal. You treat product launches like lottery tickets and when you don't win big you consider it a failure. If you agree just another android device I imagine others will be switching to Windows 10 as well.
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I'm going to Windows if BB does not make a follow-up to either the Z30 or the Passport that runs BB10. It might take me a couple of years before I give up my Passport, but I'm not, not, not going to Google. I don't want all my personal information on Google's cloud.
Chen decided early on that the App problem could not be solved by advertising how good BlackBerry 10 is or how good the Passport and Classic phones are. He has decided that investing in software acquisitions to deepen Blackberry's portfolio could provide a way for increased hardware sales from the Slider if the Google Play store dilemma can be solved for Enterprise customers.
It appears that he is banking on the free advertising gained from recent leaks to provide sufficient noise in the consumer space to amp up potential Slider sales through the bolstered carrier alliances.
It is also a positive to have Chen's understanding of China for BlackBerry. China's market and phone parts supply/production are areas that can also yield great gains for the hardware business.
As with the patent revenue, the hardware revenue increase will be slow but it's growth will be sustainable thanks to Blackbery's end to end security and software prowess as long as the App gap is finally solved.
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Those acquisitions are to make BlackBerry look like a better acquisition. They will do nothing for BlackBerry 10. They were considering going android long ago but decided against it in favor of BlackBerry 10. Poor marketing, horrible pricing and market over saturation has resulted in what we have today. There is no quick solution to BlackBerry's problems unless consumers get really smart about security, software and smartphones. Kevin M saw the writing on the wall when Thorston Heinz was removed. That essentially removed BlackBerry from competing in the market in any meaningful way.
Z10 and z30 Q5 have all been some of the best phones I have purchased ever. If is just a a shame that even BlackBerry themselves don't think so.
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Yeah, it's like the top executives at the company do not realize what a great job the engineers did. How depressing would it be if you helped create the Z30 or Passport capacitive keyboard and the world never learned about it.
I really liked this interview. I found his insight on China quite interesting. Living in Korea, and understanding the social, cultural, and economic changes that happened here so quickly, it's easy to forget, in the west, that China is changing in so many way very rapidly...and sometimes those changes fall on deaf ears in the west. It was nice to hear him speak of that.
Their Wechat app hasn't been updated in years. Glad luck Mr Chen
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Major marketing fail.
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We all know from The reactions we get when other people see our phones. No one knows that they exist. This is a major marketing sale and Chen deserves the blame.
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To be fair, the BB10 marketing fails started before John Chen took the reigns. He simply stopped pouring money into BB10.
Well whatever happens I hope it helps. I left android and been keeping a eye on BlackBerry for a long time. I feel I come home and love it. I do have Google play installed. But if they can some how keep BlackBerry os the way it is and support Google play behind it or something similar would be awesome. I don't want android cuz it still has problems even on stock version. And I'm not a big Apple fan and don't want to be forced that way. I want to support BlackBerry as long as I can cuz I love my classic
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Buying a BlackBerry Android will be supporting BlackBerry.
The big missing part of the interview was the advertisement issue. BlackBerry is very weak I believe in terms of media. When u go to any mall let's say u hardly see BlackBerry while others have even their own grand shops just to get u into the house. On visiting the carriers kiosks it's only BlackBerry sitting at the corner shy with Max two fake plastic ugly looking handsets. Funny thing when I convinced my wife to upgrade from torch to z30 not to iPhone and went to see it on a kiosk, it took her a fraction of a second to say NO until I asked the associate to show us the real one and totally changed her mind. I mean if Chen doesn't want to spend money on advertisement for now, at least let BlackBerry look decent and as is and let people see it feel it. What's the use of Passport demo if u can't feel how it's amazing keyboard works for eg.!! That's bullshit
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Could be in future BlackBerry will add up an API so that it'll open up a open platform where app developers can go into and develop more apps for BlackBerry world. John mentioned they're working hard on application section and will soon announce the major change.
Also android based bb10 will open up a new option for having play store and android runtime as well.
It was nice to watch the interview of John Chen. Thanks @CrackBerry
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I like this man very much. It's beyond doubt Blackberry will have been doing well under his shade.
You obviously don't pay attention to their quarterly reports. Declining revenue and user base.
They're doing better than before because they were severely mismanaged.
I don't know, for me I really enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing it Bla1ze. Chen is obviously very knowledgeable about what he does, and how things work. He is brilliant. I believe in Chen. It's a long term thing, it was never meant to be short term. Of course it would have been awesome had people (generally) accepted BB10 for what it is (the best O.S) but it didn't happen. Chen still gets my vote. For me Chen comes off as a person who knows his mind, and capability type of individual. A person who has good listening skills, and is a fast learner. A person who is able to be flexible but not without clear thinking about the task at hand. In short Chen has good/great leadership skills and remains to be the most capable man to lead BlackBerry into the future.
Watched the whole thing and loved it. Dam I hope BB10 stays alive on BlackBerry phones. I do believe BlackBerry makes amazing phones and BB10 is the best OS. My Passport out performs the iPhones and Samsung Galaxy and Note phones in my office.
Pearl Flip, Storm 1, 9860 Torch, 9800 Torch, 9900 Bold, Z10, Z30, Passport. The love continues to grow
Two years in and he's still trying to figure it out. Very wishy washy, seems different from just maybe 6 months ago. Seriously seems like he is winging it and hoping to luck into a turnaround like he did at Sybase. And before I get criticized for that statement, Google John Chen Sybase interview and you will be taken to an article where he admits to selling vapor ware for a while, all while searching for a product that could be construed as said vapor ware.
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I genuinely feel Chen wants to make money with handsets but doesn't know how. I also feel he wants to kill BlackBerry's hardware division but can't. He's caught in between a rock and a hard place.
True. IMO, those few big name apps they are missing are killing them (as part of an overall Brand image thing) as BB10 and BBRY hardware are on par with (or better than) anything in the market right now..
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Dude, we're actually in agreement on a few points.
Have you been drinking? ;D
And when you aren't busy leaving your usual snide anti-BBRY comment, we actually could have a mature discussion..
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Wanting BlackBerry's hardware division to make a comeback using the world's most popular mobile OS is not anti-BBRY. Encouraging them to foolishly spend another billion dollars to prop up a failing OS would be.
As I have said it before, his most impresive ability is to speak for hours saying absolutely nothing.
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At 53:30 (I love the way the question is asked) he actually refuses to answer what he was asked. As someone said, he might be constrained on what he can say, but then, what's the point of giving these interviews if he is only going to provide unclear and misleading answers?
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Great point. Because it's free advertising.
You guys need to give Birdman a break, first of all. Every good forum needs a contrarian.
Chen needed to get more into the marketing side of handsets, I wish someone would have asked him directly. Aldi on this thread said it perfectly - perception is reality in branding, and often in the arts as well. BlackBerry needs to 'change the conversation' about it's brand, to quote Don Draper. I think Chen has probably been on the fence about how much to sink into advertising. The trouble is, if there's no risk there, there will be less chance of reward. If they DO in fact release the Slider running Android, I feel like it will be time to put up or shut up. Find a way to make people re-evaluate BB and SEE it differently.
As long law enforcement and military types use BlackBerry - isn't there right in that a chance to re-express what the brand IS?
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Thanks man.
I agree with you that BlackBerry needs to improve their brand image. They do a fairly good job of that at MSLE games, but that's about it.
and their Formula 1 Mercedes sponsorship.
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I disagree. Sticking a decal on a racecar does little for their brand image. Thus why Chen has never spoken of it.
Yeah... seeing BlackBerry logos (aka marketing) show up consistently on the two of the Top 3 finishers definitely does nothing for the brand whatsoever.
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Sticking logos on something isn't advertising. It's brand awareness. And it wasn't targeted to the right audience.
I think they asked him very direct questios, but as usual, he declined to answer them directly, he was doing what he does best: speak a lot without saying ANYthing.
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Chen the politician.
john chen killed bb os
That's like saying the doctor killed the patient that was on life support. Patient ain't dead till they "call it". There is still a heart beat and some vitals show improvement. Gotta keep working on him and try all you can.
Rooting for Chen and BlackBerry. My phones are still working and doing so on the best OS imho.
Don Diego endorses the Zed and weilds a Silver.
They're just using a different medicine now :)
if bb dsnt putt android run time in bb10 then
bb wont be died like this
android run time ruined bb10
bacause man who have both legs in different boats will drown to death 100%
chen is looking nervious
they should give Coffey rather then water
anyway i am waiting for this device but please bb make prise like bb leap
cause i am jobless and bb please take care of ur jobless loyals
Paul Coffey? Lol
Good luck with the job search.
I WOULDN'T UNDER ESTIMATE THE POWER OF "CHEN"..... I BET SOMETHING MAJOR WILL BE ANNOUNCED SOON!...... GO BLACKBERRY!
People have been saying that for about a year now.
And what significant accomplishments in business have you achieved?
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Aw, thanks for trying to deflect and making it about me. So sweet.
Deflecting? More like challenging a hater.. You realize that you are like the couch potato armchair QBS that talk isht about a guy like Tom Brady yet said armchair QB probably couldn't make a 10 yard completion.
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Tom Brady is an outstanding quarterback when he and his coach play within the rules.
You obviously missed my point...
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Oops, wrong post. Was referring to the new slider picks. Odd comment considering the debate on the shorts
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Looks thick
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well Chen is never giving an answer without meaning behind it. He might avoid answering completely but we kind of have to understand what's he saying between the lines (trademark of a businessman not seller). Most probably there will be a Venice flagship and most definetly will come with huge amounts of apps. I doubt he will leave bb10 because he's the kind of guy to care for those that have always been with BlackBerry but at the same time he might modify it or even put something extra in it to atract a lot of new customers. I'm quite sure he's the man for the job and he won't fail us crackberrys
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I meant separately. Like you could get an android version OR a bb10 version
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I can totally see them running two operating systems. BB10 for government and security critical users, android for people who want fitbit,gopro or quadcopter app full compatibility. Android phones sell well - it'd be a great revenue generator for them. People that buy android phones would appreciate BlackBerry's higher than average build quality.
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Not on the same device, unless Google has changed their stance.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/03/google-and-microsoft-are-out-to-s...
There are many ways to do it. See my post for Suggesting a Blackberry base phone strategy for Blackberry hardware business http://forums.crackberry.com/armchair-ceo-f410/suggesting-blackberry-bas...
Currently Blackberry is developing and maintaining software for BB10, Android, iOs, and Windows. I just keep thinking Blackberry should use the opportunity to create a base "phone" ready for developing into different phones (BB10, Android， windows phones，etc.). They can license the design to third parties while building Blackberry phones, (e.g., BB10 with Android runtimes) themselves.
The base phone design can be based on QNX hypervisor and have Blackberry security features built-in if necessary.
This approach has several advantages if it is worked out:
1. Getting full access to Google play store for Blackberry-designed phones while keeping Android runtimes for BB10.
2. Continue to make BB10 phones and at the same time, allow many different phones to be produced based on Blackberry-designed base phones. Blackberry can gain more bargaining powers with component vendors.
3. Allowing more Blackberry-designed phones on the market. Blackberry phones will get more exposure and license income.
4. Blackberry can have more options to explore different opportunities.
HTC was making both Android and Windows versions of the One (M8). There's nothing stopping BlackBerry offering the slider (and Passport) in both BB10 and Android.
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And Windows 10 mobile.
BlackBerry 10 all the way!
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I really like John Chen, he really has that engineer's way of thinking, he looks at things from a much broader perspective. for him its not just a black or white, its the shades of grey and different colors thrown in the mix that he looks at. its the other details used to paint a full picture, and that's what I find society these days doesn't do, the majority of us look at things from a point of judgement, a right or wrong, a place of scarcity, afraid to hit that wrong and fail.
I prefer he look at things in black or white. Less confusion that way.
Maybe you need to watch 50 Shades of Grey.
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I had no choice. Plus it was cheap night lol
Speaking of Apps..whats the most efficient way to transfer your iTunes music to B-link and or Blackberry ?
Sync iTunes app caused a malware on my PC to be downloaded ?
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Thx Blaize........JC is working on the APP issue...good to really hear
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Going to watch it on my Linux Mint powered machine! :D
Typed using my BlackBerry Classic running 10.3.2 on WINDmobile HSPA+
John Chen is from the future, his motto is 'Save BlackBerry, save the world'.
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I'm leaping over everybody's flagshit phone with my underpowered underrated uninspiring BlackBerry Leap! WWW.leaptrumpsnote6.com lol
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Great interview! It had a lot of interesting information.
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@16:18 JC dropped a "crackberry"...thank goodness the questions were beyond the interrogative echo-chambers of handsets, Android, and Apple. BlackBerry doesn't churn out phones every year and the brand can provide much more value than beyond phones.
The interview was more insightful in revealing more about the CEO than the other interview's I've watched; very refreshing. You can see what JC as the BlackBerry CEO brings to the brand from his engineering perspective, the rooting for the underdog perspective, the CEO perspective, and most of all, a businessman perspective; in other words, he's weighing in on all the options and it will take time for these actions to come to fruition. I'm interested in seeing how the other industries BB is in will play out and maybe CrackBerry should re-brand to "Hospital Automation, Inc."...and (*crossing fingers*) when success becomes attached to the brand, I'm hoping they bring back the Research in Motion name.
Google Play Services work just fine on my BlackBerry Z10 (at least for what I need - which is nothing really, but it's cool that it works) thanks to Cobalt 232!
Here is a partnership strategy for Chen: license BB10 OS to Google as a gradual transition from Android to a better platform. The Android Runtime allows users to run their old Android apps while developers retool for BB10 OS.
Okay, it's dreaming, but it would be an awesome partnership for BlackBerry. :-)
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Great interview!
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Heh. Looks to me that you can kiss your analdroid-based BB jerk off goodbye. It would be an improved version of BB10 that comes with the slider, after all. Good.
I want a pure BB10 OS device nice and secure. If Blckberry can make Android apps run smoother on a BB10 device awesome but I do not want a Blackberry/Android device. I do not like Android that is why I use a Blackberry.
Thanks for this. I think Chen should be giving more interviews. He is good at this. I think BlackBerry is moving to android and needs to. And it does need to partner since the company is too small compared to the others to compete. Can it still manage and survive. I hope so, but I think it's a real struggle unless it gets a break. It it does get such a break it will come from innovation .
It needs a breakthrough of some kind that it can market. But what can that be?
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I think he should be doing more actual work.
I think you should get a clue about what a CEO actually does.
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As he said carve out a niche and run with it. Can't be competing against proverbial giants until appropriately equipped.
Don Diego endorses the Zed and weilds a Silver.
Can't thrive as a niche OEM either.
Great video with many subtle insights for the observant intellects. :) John Chen is truly doing his darn best to turnaround BlackBerry and I honestly think he can. UNEASE LIES THE HEAD THAT WEARS THE CROWN.
If I could get a BlackBerry device running BB10 with all the apps I have now, I would be as happy as I am now because that's exactly what I have with the passport. Don't need Google play services spying on to enhance my personal or work experience thankyouverymuch.
Typed from my AT&T passport
I resemble that. Only 1 android app wanted and running. Note I did not use the word need!
Don Diego endorses the Zed and weilds a Silver.
shorts and shots of the male underleg is in apparently....
John Chen mentioned in the last quarter there was another company that they had patent licensing deal with but could not disclose. If he is working hard at the app gap problem, that company could be Google.
Awh. You're welcome bud.
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Are you kidding me? You could see the dude's underwear and he was picking his nails. This is a new low in interviews. On the flip side, I truly believe bb10 is done. Sad really.
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They should have had someone more professional sit in for him.
Are you kidding me? Sheeesh.. give it up bro. He is a CEO and you are some Android shill trolling a BlackBerry fansite.
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I'm referring to the interviewer.
Ah.. okay
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Good interview and I can't wait for this slider to come out. They are finally doing things right if this venice slider is a droid version. Blackberry lacks apps and that's what sells phones just ask apple and samsung customers, unfortunate but true.
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Amazon store is a joke, bring Google play!
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I found this very interesting. I do use many google services and find myself reliant on them now. I really would like to use a blackberry again but until google services are able to run and support google apps I can't leave android/iOS bubble since those are the two that support those services at this time.
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You can run them.It won't be perfect, but the majority run on BB10
Support for hangouts, photos, g+, android wear?
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Using G+ on my passport. Needs special Cobalt patch work
I've heard of others using hangouts. Also believe needs special Cobalt patch work.
Photos , unsure as I do not use.
Android wear also unsure. People try that one, but I don't think they have got it to work just yet. I havent followed up with it much since I do not own a smart watch. Pebble watches work though.
Cobalt has done some amazing things for us.
Try Hg10 app.
I feel sorry for you. Microsoft and BlackBerry ARE BETTER CHOICES.
Posted from a Passport or Z30. Get one!
Think he just confirmed it. But what I think the next device will be a demo of the (software productivity products that will be available on android) because we run on the same type of kernal this is possible. So I think they will produce something nice, and I think the base operating system will still be QNX. Just painted Droid. Well I'm excited.
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Nice Interview I enjoy it.
The key word from Chen is: complicated. My guess is the slider will be a different kind of Android....we shall see in a few months !
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Very true. BB10 is evolving to the marketplace. droid support is going to be more integrated into BB10. Thats why development has stopped. We are going to get a new BB10 with seamless droid support built in. Bravo to Blackberry and those working hard on this. It will soon not make sence to buy a pure droid phone. They are turning this around on the marketplace IMHO.
Interesting that Blackberry is expanding the hardware business to compliment the software-ie. LTE devices for transportation like trucks, train cars, containers, or hospital/medical devices etc.
Chen is going where the money is first, takes cash to make moves ^
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Kind of hard to have success with a phone if the carriers won't push. I called two AT&T company stores today to ask about the Passport neither had it. These were company stores not authorized retailers. If AT&T isn't pushing it exclusive phone and Verizon and Sprint aren't carrying it the phone won't sell in the United States.
Now I am conflicted. I want the Passport but I hate to give AT&T my business when it is obvious they don't give a tinkers damn about BlackBerry.
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Took me stores to get mine.Only 2 had display models and only 1 had a single unit to sell.I got that single unit.
They don't push what doesn't sell. Would you if you owned a business?
All i can see is that guy's shorts....
I know, right? Very distracting.
Right up you alley. You sound like an up skirt type.
I will apologize bird man. That was kinda low.
I will use this as a metaphor. You fill uneasy about looking at this guy's junk. It's hanging out there in all its glory and no one can change that. That's how I fill about Google. Google is up skirting all of us ( however we can change that)! And you come on here praising them. I personally like difference in opinions it brings change. But bulling people doesn't.
Apology accepted. Good on ya. I'll give you props for the segway lol
Thanks.
Just a hard pill to swallow. Yes it's been a long road for BlackBerry and it's users. I personally don't think Google is the answer. Yes maybe in the short term but if the perception of BlackBerry doesn't change, than we are going to sing the same old sad song.
Let me throw this at you.
Once upon a time I was in a marketing meeting and the presenter asked how many of you have ever shopped at Aldi grocery store. Most everyone raised there hand. One lady didn't. He asked her why haven't you shopped at Aldi's. Her answer was Aldi's is for you know poor people. So the presenter asked have you shopped at Trader-Joe's. She replied yes that's my favorite store. The presenter said you know the products that are sold at Trader-Joe's is the same thing as Aldi's product. He continued to tell her and us Trader-Joe's and Aldi's is the same company and Aldi's spent marketing money to change the perception of people in an upper class to get them to purchase there products.
The same is true with BlackBerry if they don't change the perception of BlackBerry is out of business, BlackBerry is for old people, BlackBerry is for business people, BlackBerry isn't up to date and so on, a Google device isn't going to matter.
What could have changed BlackBerry perception better than BB10?
New OS which is secure and respects users privacy.
+ many people find Android and iOS old and boring.
●BB10 – another missed marketing opportunity?●
In February 2013, BlackBerry had an outstanding opportunity to tell people they were back with their Super Bowl spot. Instead, they depicted what the Z10 can't do, including elephant feet and exploding multicolored dust. They haven't been able to recover from that botched opportunity since in terms of image marketing.
Hell that wasn't marketing! Thor just wanted to go to the game and be treated like a King.
That was like going on vacation and writing it off as a business expense.
Same with the Formula 1 races.
What about them? They are actually one of the few pieces of great exposure that BBRY gets. Mercedes is an iconic brand and the MB F1 team crushes it every year.
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It's an expensive way to let race fans know BlackBerry is still alive. That money could have been better spent promoting BlackBerry 10.
One thing I will agree with you on (surprise huh?) is that the SuperBowl commercial was a huge fiasco. I like the though of a commercial during the SB to hit a huge captive audience but the content of the commercial was a huge fail.. and not having the Z10 and Q10 available in stores the day after was even worse. Hence why Franky B got shown the door..
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It took them long enough lol
Coulda Woulda shoulda!
I don't think blackberry is dying, they need to innovate and refocus.
Why would apple and other companis would want to buy a sinking boat. Unless they see that it could be fix and bring them money. Put blackberry for sale and you will the line up. I am proud of our Canadian company, they should advertise more of who they are because everybody loves canadian.
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I loved the part where he said that you need partners to succeed and that you can't go on alone wanting it all, you will eventually slip up and loose everything, we had everything.. I would caution Apple because this is basically them now.
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Apple has plenty of partners. Some examples include carriers, media, and consumers.
I'm discouraged but not surprised that Chen completely overlooks the marketing challenges that blackberry faces. I think even the interviewer was getting to this when he asked about whether or not the name Blackberry is a liability. Chen's answer was clever (he has used it before) but shows his inaction in the area of biggest failure now: marketing.
The phones and the OS have not been given a chance. People do not know about them. He is searching for technical solutions when the problem might not be in the engineering.
I agree 10000%. Very well said. It is unfortunate that people still don't know of BlackBerry's current OS. I still get comments like " is that a BlackBerry ? " or "its 2015 why are you still using a BlackBerry " little do these Apple users know that my phone is superior to theirs. Marketing is to blame for this problem. Aside from that disastrous super bowl commercial a couple of years ago I have not seen a single commercial on TV of what bb10 is capable of or any of the phones. Even people that have bb10 phones don't know they can run Android apps on them. That to me is the biggest fail
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Is very possible that when Chen was brought on it was agreed that he would "transition" the company to more of a software provider. This probably was not a good decision to make, and now this is clearer. But since that was the direction they decided on and that is Chen's area of expertise it is too challenging to change directions intellectually now.
Chen talked about people lower down in the company often know the answers on how to turn a company around. Maybe no one at Blackberry understands marketing. That is apparently how it has been historically.
I know how. And I understand marketing.
BB 10 Os all the way!
Loved his explanation of changing company name...that was classic and makes a lot of sense.
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I look forward to buying a "RickyBerry"!
So Chen had turned down offers to head RIM/BlackBerry three times before he finally accepted?
Money talks.
Money that decided and paid out the BBRY Board.
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Which was a mistake. They were desperate.
Yup.. it was either pay a guy with a history of a successful turnaround or pay a CrackBerry troll that knows nothing about business... they definitely made the wrong choice. *eyeroll*
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I would have done it for one dollar and worked strictly on bonuses.
You know I could never figure out how in the F people can get a bonus when a company is struggling. I'm not just talking about BlackBerry. ING, Bank of America, Chevy and so on. Take a bale out at the tax payers expense and give management bonuses. Every company I ever worked for would freeze bonuses when they were in the Red. Your in the red for a reason and don't deserve to be compensated for Fing up. Salaries are one thing but bonuses?
That's a good point. I guess it's just an industry standard.
Also, Around 53:30 he was asked by the reporter about the handset business and what his customers wanted and specifically about Google Services. He said that while he was proud of the Passport and Classic phones, they "were not a run away success" and that customers had told him that getting the apps they wanted was a problem. He referred to the Amazon Store, BlackBerry World, Google Play Store and iTunes store. He said would just say that they were "working hard at that" and that "it was a lot more complex that most people would give credit" and that "since I've already acknowledged it, obviously I'm working hard at it, so it is a little bit more complex why it is not done" and "in due time I will explain that".
Forum discussion: http://forums.crackberry.com/crackberry-com-news-discussion-f415/john-ch...
BlackBerry is focusing on Business and still peaking to consumers. The best part tell people that BlackBerry runs also Android apps like Netflix, Instagram, Spotify in a secure container away from the BlackBerry software. It will make people curious. This is the right time people thinking blackberry goes Android. Use to tell them that you allready can run Android apps under BB10. Make sure to tell them also that apps from google using Google play are not working but that there are better alternative to find. But BlackBerry need the apps.
So in my opionion make labels for BB10 native apps and Android runtime apps. Also make sure when your start BlackBerry World the first 3 times to tell that native apps has apps permission and are saver that way in use because you can stop the app looking in your agenda, emails or contacts.
Sign of with "you don't have to share anything with BB10"
It make people thinking about BlackBerry Apps and Android and perhaps they starting to demand from the bank or whatever a native app. It is a learning and aware process.
But first off all get people on board, advertise with do you need all these preinstall apps on your droid phone, NO use BlackBerry 10 and get best of both world save app and android apps to play with like Netflix or Spotify and check out Instagram at the same time. Something like that but make them aware BB10 runs there favorit Android Apps.
I notice when i sell a BlackBerry 10 Device and ask them what apps they really use it's mostly email, whatsapp and some radio or music app. So you doing nothing with google+ or these other great google apps on your phone. Not really, sometimes maps, BlackBerry has a good map from which is using tomtom and also traffic information. O nice and you can run android apps like spotify, your banking apps etc. It make people thinking and see the picture ,same with apple users. They tell me about icloud 5 GB WOW ,use BB10 and get 50GB with box. The rest is the same story ?
What apps are you really using and 80% of users don't need apps and the apps they are using are basic and also to find as apk file. These people you must get on board. I tell you if only 0,1% will go for it your growing
The only problemabout the apps is that I must give them always the internet site 1mobile.com because the Amazon is crap for Europe.
That's the way to do it. Tell them that your favorite Android Apps are secure to run in your BB10 and if they are not secure or any Service ask to Play with your security it won't run on your Maximum Security BB10.
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Security and privacy don't mean much to the average user. Even if there was a plan for a world scale compromise of consumer phones, why bother? Google and Facebook already have access to your emails and things you like and will gladly sell whatever they can to anyone. if the compromise actually happened would anyone even notice? When it comes to financial information, criminals apparently have an easier time stealing from merchants than consumers, why hack a million phones when you can go for a dozen servers and get the same results?
While BB10 does have better privacy options, the only way to achieve better security is to use native apps which anyone with a quantity over privacy mindset doesn't want. I personally want BB10 to survive in a consumer market, but BlackBerry does not have the resources to change the culture that consumer phones and apps in general have created. BlackBerry future is in BES and IoT because there is no other way to approach things that corporations want but the secure way. I just hope BB10 has a place in all that.
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Out of all that.. there's one thing that puzzles me.
'They tell me about icloud 5 GB WOW ,use BB10 and get 50GB with box.'
Why on earth would you highlight that? You know iOS and Android users have that as well, right? Plus many, many more options lol. If you REALLY break it down, BlackBerry gives you NO cloud storage, so the 5GB of iCloud is actually an advantage on top of other things.
The only difference is, BlackBerry was smart about their integration of Box and Dropbox and the option to use an SD Card, which are benefits but 'use BB10 and get 50GB with box' is hardly any sort of advantage.
Such an odd inclusion. I don't understand how that in particular is seen as a benefit lol.
Who cares how much iCloud storage you get for free. There is no freaking file manager. How do I use those damn files?
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You don't really believe that, do you? There's hundreds of file manager apps available for download. While it's true Apple doesn't give you one, it's not as if there's no access at all.
But that is Apple's MO though... put out a "lite" OS that needs apps just to perform basic functionality.. and then rave how many apps are available.
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The funny thing is almost all iPhone user I know, family and colleagues , don't even know how to use cloud services or don't trust them, they don't even know how to customize, change setting on their APPS, if I send them an invitation to a group on BBM or a BBM channels they give me their phones to do it for them. The phones never get updated, their internal memory is fill with pictures or songs, they don't know what miracast is or what capabilities it has. They buy their phones because it's the new iPhone and because the seller tells them this is the phone you need. They don't know if it has a fast browser or not they just remember how slow BBOS was compared to this and how smother is compared to early freezing androids. BlackBerry needs to let them know iPhone only has to offer a mature OS and we are just scratching our potential.
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So it's about advertising. Again and again we realise that most consumers have very little knowledge and no matter how great BB10 is they won't find out unless being told. And BlackBerry has not been doing enough in this area. :-(
Not to mention probably a million of those are clock apps or so many of the sam apps with the same functionality but different name and look. Apps in my opinion are just getting out of hand. The excuse of any OS having so many apps is no longer a valid argument why or why not to chose a certain OS over another. Most of them are useless gimmicks and a waste of time and money.
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BINGO!!
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Create app categories, and limit those to a couple of spots. Let's say 50 or 500 clock apps, and watch app quality skyrocket... :-)
Quality needs to improve. Having to select or dig through a forest of duplicate, dodgy, suspicious or superfluous apps is not going to help my or anybody's user experience, on any platform...
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Well said. Well done.
Guy in shorts seems kind of random.
Chen. Funny as always.
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Overcompensated as usual.
Crying as usual...
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^Cranky as usual.
^Sad troll as usual
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I'm actually pretty happy lol
John Chen...all talk, no results.
Plus grossly overcompensated.
I wouldn't say no results, just not the results people want. As for compensation, he deserves it. Imagine the amount of money he has to spend on headache pills alone lol.
Bla1ze, I'll send you a nice Christmas present if you ban Birdman from this site for good.
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Haha, welcome to the party bro!
By "party", you must mean another article where Birdman sprays his anti-BBRY graffiti everywhere...
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Don't cry.
Cry? You mean like you do on every article?
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99% of the market thinks like Birdman, asking to get rid of him is what BlackBerry has done in the past, ignoring what people want and ending up loosing the top dog position. In business you can't be arrogant and think that people will buy your products no matter what. Crackberry fans are what? 0.01% of the population's voice? Time to face the music, Chen knows that only hardcore BlackBerry fans want BB10, everyone else wants apps, period.
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Arrogant...huh. Buy your product no matter what, ". Like Apple and the iPhone huh? Like Samsung and the Galaxy huh?
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He wasn't referring to the alternatives. Not sure where that came from.
Birdman plays devil advocate. No?
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I have no problem with anyone having a negative opinion about something that BBRY does (or doesn't do) as long as 1. They have sound logic and 2. They aren't perpetual "haters".. Birdman fails both..
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Don't you qualify as a Birdman hater? Give it a rest dude!
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I think he has a crush on birdman. Awww...
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More like an infatuation. Kinda weird from a fellow dude tbh.
Only in your dreams bro.. only in your dreams.
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Naaaw... I just call out the sad troll every chance I get..
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Why do you care what my feelings toward Birdman are? Given the fact that he litters up the comment section of every article, maybe you should direct your "give it a rest" advice to him.
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I came from Android and Windows Phone, at the beginning I hated so much that BlackBerry had many shortcomings, then I tried to adjust my needs to the phone (bizarre right?); With the updates (leaks actually since BlackBerry hasn't notified my carrier of any update) I have been able to (poorly) perform some of the tasks I needed at the beginning, so I stopped complaining. Now, is it good for BlackBerry that someone stops pointing at the problems if they still persist?, the absolute answer is NO, so BlackBerry is able to IMPROVE ITSELF. Critics (specially those more ferocious) are ESCENTIAL for any company willing to become more competitive.
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Exactly. If you are not doing as expected in phone business you are not doing well at all. But.. BlackBerry is not anymore a major company in handset business (in fact it was never been - really) but it is growing to be a major (a unique) company in end-to-end encryption market.
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It still has the stigma of being a phone company.
Why do you keep proving your critics right including me and making the few who see/understand your logic seem like "asses" ??!!
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More like the other way around. Lol
What would you like Chen to do, wave a magic wand and make things better? Face the facts, Blackberry is on it's death bed and while sad, they have no one to blame but themselves for not having a good app store or making new innovative phones. A slider, really now, what is this the early 2000's? How bout bringing back a flip phone, LOL. Chen's only option is to partner up with android. Without Chen partnering up with android, the blackberry hardware business would have been dead a few months ago.
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I feel bad that you wrote all that because really, Birdman agrees with you. You argued your points for no reason LOL.
I don't care if some troll agrees with me. My point wasn't to have the troll agree with me, my point was that changes don't happen overnight and people should realize that. Blackberry is like a sports team that was once on top and is now in rebuild mode. Getting back on top might take 2 yearsa5 years or 10 years or the rebuild might never work. In the case of blackberry, Chen is trying everything to save a dying niche of people who like a phone that actually works and runs well and doesn't have an update every 3 months cause of patchwork os and aren't wall huggers like Icrap. People need to realize Chen is saving us niche people in the long run by partnering with Android.
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Chen getting all the devs to build the same apps on bb10 natively is what he has to accomplish. We need all those apps on BB10 natively. PEROID.
TMO Z10,STL100-3/10.2.1.2156
He doesn't want to spend another billion dollars to achieve that. Not sure why some readers can't comprehend this.
Just like you can't comprehend that it will be just as much effort to turn Android into something usable.. oh, and let's not forget the marketing..
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If it would take "just as much effort" we wouldn't see prototypes appearing in photos.
If you mean a team that was good because they used some innovative drugs but now everyone else has better ones, then yes. The thing that made blackberry profitable was their push service and the bis and bes plans. None of that is relevant anymore, and blackberry seems totally unable to come up with something. Having press releases because some hospital in canada adopted bes12, really? You can sing praises for the passport all you want, but it's a very niche product, like the first galaxy note was. Except now the note is a market leader in a huge segment, and passport will never be popular. This company was too reliant on an obsolete business model, and even if they become profitable again, the volume is just not there. Their models are not competitively priced against android and windows, and they don't have the appeal of apple. It's hard to imagine anyone could have done much better than chen, which doesn't make him a good ceo by any measure.
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I could have. I would have adopted Android in 2009 or 2010 when the BlackBerry brand was at the height of its popularity with consumers.
How would you have differentiated from all the other android brands out there? How would you have replaced the monthly subscriptions revenue stream?
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I would have released an Android touchscreen before the Samsung Galaxy S in 2010 for a multimedia offering while maintaining BIS for lower cost keyboard models like the Curve series.
Sure you would have ArmchairCEO_38.. hindsight is 20/20.
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It sure is. BlackBerry would be the #3 OEM today if they would have had some foreshadowing.
I'm pretty sure you could sign my wife up for a flip phone. Lol
She loved her old Samsung flippy.
Lol are you talking about bb10 os compare to any os or just an app store....name a phone that can out perform passport on battery,multitask with easy and that has a hub that you can use on computers or ipads? Compare passport battery and call quality to any android or iphone...samsung tried attach keyboard and that thing looks sad lol leave keyboard to the masters...
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The multitasking capabilities of BlackBerry10 no OS can come close. I know I've tried them, except for iOS I stay away from Apple. The HUB is just in its own category that no other OS can imitate without having to download all these extra apps that BB10 already has built in as a function in its self.
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Idk why ppl don't complain about the terrible mono speakers on iphone lol its 2015 and they get a pass for that crap call qualities wow...1 gig ram lol ohh but it has cool apps who needs multitasking, terrible touch keyboard....other than the app store what's so good about those phone? Lol every top android phone I buy dies within months...everything crashes or the phone just becomes nightmare to use...
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I believe Samsung and LG are coming out with "flip phones" running Android 5.1
Rock'n that passport!!!!!!
Samsung did the flip thing. There is a market for flip and slide.
They always have been my favourites
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Oh, how true all of what you wrote is.... BlackBerry is on a death bed. Operating system very good. Hub and virtual keyboard excellent. But, hardware not innovative and access to good services like Google Drive or Spotify very limited.
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Passport keyboard is no innovation...?
But crippled NFC sure is, I guess... :-D
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Hub, keyboard, blend? Something other phones lack
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I disagree with your death bed opinion, Blackberry might not be as popular as android or iOS, people exaggerate on their opinions regarding the success of BlackBerry 10. Where i am in South Africa BlackBerry 10 has gained a lot of traction, i see more people with these handsets infact the Z3 is currently the best selling smartphone in South Africa. Here's my take if the American market is negative towards a product it doesn't mean it's a failure. In other markets it can be a success.
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I think that says a lot more about South Africa than BlackBerry's health as a company
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What Chen sticking with BB10 and pizzed you off?
Trollman_38 doesn't realize that Hemmadroid fanboys like himself should be on Android Central... not on a BlackBerry fansite.
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Nah, it's boring over there. Not as dull as iMore though lol
Oh.. so you troll CrackBerry instead. Gotcha
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Yup... no results whatsoever... Fire Chen and hire Trollman_38 for armchair CEO.
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mncrankypants99 can be my wingman.
Naaw.. you're clueless about business and I wouldn't be associated with it no matter how big the paycheck.
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PA-ycheck... ;-)
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I'll give you a free BlackBerry Venice running full Android with Google Services on on your first day of work.
No thanks.. I'll be buying a SE Passport running BB10 in a few months.
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Chen talks a lot without actually giving you any real details, like a politician. Android BB will be successful enough to kill off BB10 but not a big enough success to save Blackberry HW IMO. Android fans love their devices for a very short period of time before they move on to the next hot phone. Specs and and having the latest and greatest OS version are also very important on the Android side. With a heavily customized version of Android BB will lag behind other vendors in it's ability to quickly move to new Android versions. BB will still be a niche player in the Android market but the move to Android will allow them to save development costs, and stay in the phone market on the cheap. Ultimately whatever is left of BB will be sold and BB will join the ranks of once great tech names like Commodore, Palm and Motorola.
The Motorola brand is still around.
That's pretty much all that's left is the name.
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Not really. They've just released new models in Canada.
I can't see how you can arrive at this conclusion. If this company was under prior management it would have been in worse shape.
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Sticking with BlackBerry...when it dies, I'm switch to Windows. Simply like my food different :)
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You are going to switch from BlackBerry to Loosedows!(?)! Wow. Wouldn't you want to go up a notch, not down ten? Ms sucks on so many levels it's impossible to count.
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Did you mean to use loose lol?
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Thanks Bla1ze
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Rich must have thought the interview was being held at the beach.
Lol... he could have at least angled himself a bit better.
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That's what I was thinking too. I was expecting a scrotum to flop out at any minute. Lol
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Lmao... I kept looking away whenever they panned out. Rather never know.
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Me too but I still thought it was gonna happen. Lol
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He explains that he's wearing shorts because of an injury.
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Yeah but his posture and camera angle were highly suspect....
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Mosquito bite? Lol.
That's when the real itch starts... :-)
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If they offer TWO operating systems, I'd stick to BB10.
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I'm with you on that one, I don't think Android can be as fast switching between apps the Hub and back again.
^ this
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Totally with you! QNX (BB10) is a KILLER operating system running a VM with android. :D
Typed using my BlackBerry Classic running 10.3.2 on WINDmobile HSPA+
doubt they will abandon BB10 at all, if you listen to what he says he doesn't really say they won't come out with an Android device, but he talks about is feelings about his products and their offerings. he also talks about how easy it is to make an Android runtime and in my thinking it would be so easy to build an Android simulator on top of the BB10/QNX framework, we already see it and have seen it for years now, ever since they created the Android runtime on the Playbook, there have always been people creating a standalone app that looks like and operates like Android (I forgot what they are called now) for BlackBerry to build something like this it wouldn't really be that hard to do and can be built to look and feel exactly like Android but be built on QNX and BlackBerry's platform. so it would really just be an illusion of Android.
this is really my take away from what he's saying, doing this may even be possible for BlackBerry to be able to get a Google licensing agreement and be able to offer Google services so that the end user will have no issue getting Google apps, the only issue is generating the accelerators in the Google runtime to allow apps to function a bit more efficiently and more natively.
Makes sense, specially because, unlike Chen said, QNX is not Linux.
Linux didn't even exist when QNX was already used in the industry.
QNX (aka. Quantum Unix or Quick Unix) is a real-time message passing UNIX inspired (for data access security) micro kernel.
THE MASTERPIECE of RT Kernels.
It scales like no one else...
The Linux and posix compatibility layers have been made available to make it possible to run Linux apps on top of it.
The android runtime we all sadly know is possibly yet another compatibility layer and api wrapper for running (more or less) analdroid patchwork apps.
If Chen says is difficult to maintain it, it's just because Gooogle crack smokers (to keep their dominant position) wanted Analdroid to be a wobbling perennial patchwork os and this has been demonstrated over the years !
It's a highly customisable mess, full of Fart-apps and security holes; laggy, unpredictable, unreliable and becomes unresponsive at each new release.
Why would BlackBerry deal with such an infectious bloated layer of mediocrity on top of the QNX masterpiece then?
For attracting marketing driven Gooooooooooogle hypnotized sheep!
It's OK! Let's make this phone to attract android users, but
PLEASE make the AGNOSTIC, pure BB10 METAL version of it, with NO analdroid (whatever variants) DEPENDENCIES!
This will be the TRUE BB10 vanilla TERMINAL!
A real-time SECURE MASTER/controller for the upcoming IoT era.
It will be the game changer !
The ONLY one I'd technologically TRUST !
Honestly I'd never trust a BlackBerry device with a compatibility layer for analdroid apps that is certified by Gooooooooooogle and can use Goooogle play services !?
And as stated many times I don't trust my z10 running bb10.3.1 either... it's wobbling !
Bad sign !
QNX 4 EVER
BB10.4 FREEDOM
I think, he was just trying to emphasize to the broader audience that both Android and #BB10 have a common underpinning (in this case Unix) so it isn't an issue for BlackBerry to secure Android.
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