We've previously seen the pics of the BlackBerry "Magnum" prototype. But, just in case anyone out there needed more proof the device was at one point or another, on the BlackBerry roadmap Cellguru has done up a quick walkthrough video for everyone. Since there is no OS or anything loaded it's more of a hands on look at what could have been for the "Magnum" but RIM has since moved on. Rather interesting to see the SurePress implementation here. Sound off in the comments.
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A Video Look At The BlackBerry "Magnum" Prototype
A big screen like on the storm with a slide out keyboard, a new OS, a 10MP camera with 10x zoom, image stabilization, auto focus and liquid lens, support for OpenGL ES, support for Adobe Flash, Adobe Flash player, support for online gaming, battery life that lasts up to 5 days under heavy use, secondary camera, 800MB of app memory, 32GB of built in memory, 4-axis accelerometer, 3GHz CPU, a new refined redesigned browser, AM/FM radio, up to 22hrs of talk time on "4G" and 30 hrs on 3G, first "4G" BlackBerry, HD youtube videos(and other online videos), 5 days of music playback time, 5 days of movie playback time, 5 days of browser, vibtare while ringing support without having to download an app for it, strong vibration without making too much noise, very High-Resolution screen, screen support for billions of colors, 6D gaming(not 3D), 99999 FREE apps to download OTA in BlackBerry app world, water proof up to 100 meters underwater, shock proof, virus proof, bluetooth, wi-fi, able to turn surepress on or off, , ... Ha!(Please put all these things in the new BlackBerry if your reading this RIM. :) I typed this on my BlackBerry. :P
A big screen like on the storm with a slide out keyboard, a new OS, a 10MP camera with 10x zoom, image stabilization, auto focus and liquid lens, support for OpenGL ES, support for Adobe Flash, Adobe Flash player, support for online gaming, battery life that lasts up to 5 days under heavy use, secondary camera, 800MB of app memory, 32GB of built in memory, 4-axis accelerometer, 3GHz CPU, a new refined redesigned browser, AM/FM radio, up to 22hrs of talk time on "4G" and 30 hrs on 3G, first "4G" BlackBerry, HD youtube videos(and other online videos), 5 days of music playback time, 5 days of movie playback time, 5 days of browser, vibtare while ringing support without having to download an app for it, strong vibration without making too much noise, very High-Resolution screen, screen support for billions of colors, 6D gaming(not 3D), 99999 FREE apps to download OTA in BlackBerry app world, water proof up to 100 meters underwater, shock proof, virus proof, bluetooth, wi-fi, able to turn surepress on or off, , ... Ha!(Please put all these things in the new BlackBerry if your reading this RIM. :) I typed this on my BlackBerry. :P
A big screen like on the storm with a slide out keyboard, a new OS, a 10MP camera with 10x zoom, image stabilization, auto focus and liquid lens, support for OpenGL ES, support for Adobe Flash, Adobe Flash player, support for online gaming, battery life that lasts up to 5 days under heavy use, secondary camera, 800MB of app memory, 32GB of built in memory, 4-axis accelerometer, 3GHz CPU, a new refined redesigned browser, AM/FM radio, up to 22hrs of talk time on "4G" and 30 hrs on 3G, first "4G" BlackBerry, HD youtube videos(and other online videos), 5 days of music playback time, 5 days of movie playback time, 5 days of browser, vibtare while ringing support without having to download an app for it, strong vibration without making too much noise, very High-Resolution screen, screen support for billions of colors, 6D gaming(not 3D), 99999 FREE apps to download OTA in BlackBerry app world, water proof up to 100 meters underwater, shock proof, virus proof, bluetooth, wi-fi, able to turn surepress on or off, , ... Ha!(Please put all these things in the new BlackBerry if your reading this RIM. :)
When is Verizon getting the tour 2 (touch pad & wifi), a storm with a slide out keyboard, or something akin to the Magnum? Verizon needs a bb with wifi (besides the curve 2). (Does the verizon Palm pre have wifi? Thanks
Good concept, I think once it's tweeked enough & all the bugs are worked out it will be another good Blackberry device. I like the combination on both full keyboard & touchscreen. Myself, I'm NOT a touchscreen guy but I know that some of my friends who have gone to the Storm or (Ugh) the iPhone say the do miss the actual keyboard so this would help them out more. Some are complaining about the lack of a flash for the camera, it's a prototype people, not the finished product so relax, you can't take this one as is, it's still developing. I'm anxious to upgrade to the 9700 but when/IF this hits the market I'll be in the stores playing with it just like everyone else on this board.
i dont think this is a good idea either..... it takes the originality away from the storm and bold.... i think they need to go back to the drawing board...
When is Verizon getting the tour 2 (touch pad & wifi), a storm with a slide out keyboard, or something akin to the Magnum? Verizon needs a bb with wifi (besides the curve 2). (Does the verizon Palm pre have wifi? Thanks
makes no sense to have surepress on such a small screen (your thumb takes up half of the damn thing lol)...at least have a sliding keyboard with a full screen (that would make sense)...RIM = retarded individuals masturbating
I use to wish my bold 9000 had a touch screen then I got the 9700 and I was completely convinced there would be another bb with a touch and keybo within 6 mos kevin hire me I have psychic powers, you can pay me in batteries and spare trackballs I don't mind
This is EXACTLY what I have been dreaming about in a BlackBerry! My husband has had a Palm Treo for years and he hasn't been happy at all since switching to BlackBerry because of the lack of the Qwerty keyboard/touch screen combo.
I hope RIM won't let this die on the cutting room floor. This is a great crossover. It is the solution to the very reason I would never buy a Storm. I want the convenience of the keyboard and touch screen at the ready all the time without having to twirl my phone around and hope I hit the right key.
An even bigger dream...that Verizon would actually carry this phone if it were to come to fruition.
I like the phone, I won't lie. But the thing that's holding me back is the no flash part. What's the point of having the phone with a camera when there's no flash at all?
ever release this crap it will be the last straw. With the Google and Iphones development and superiority in touch screen and OS. This will make a 6 year RIM user like myself buy an Iphone that day, They are falling behind very quickly.
I think this is very interesting. i will reserve judgement till i see more but i love my storm and i have always wanted to venture into a normal keyboard blackberry but i love touch screen phones.
In no way, shape, or form do I want a blackberry that doesn't have either a track ball (physical or optical). I didn't buy the Storm because I didn't want a touch screen BlackBerry.
I'm pretty sure the Bold was not the first 3G device from RIM. Lol
My old SE P1i had a similar design (touchscreen + qwerty)but it had a resistive screen and a jog wheel. It was pretty easy to use and had a interface that went with it, this should be as easy to use. Just keep a trackpad on it for navigation and the touchscreen for selecting quickly from apps or lists of stuff. SurePress isn't the best but they'll probably keep it on there, so why complain?
Just read that they canceled production??? It would be great if they could create something like this but with a better design and a little more innovative.
As a storm user, I've been saying I can't go back from the touch screen but I need a keyboard. Blackberry has been listening to me.
"It was my idea"
This is horrible, I can already look at my Bold 9000 and if it were a touchscreen, it would be horrible trying to go across huge webpages on this thing. I hope the Dakota is the rightful heir to being the first RIM touchscreen/QWERTY hybrid that will sport a bigger screen. Something of that size in the video with a touchscreen reminds me of all those fail-phones from LG, Samsung, Sony, etc.
Hopefully the Dakota will have a huge screen (bigger than Storm) and have a slide out QWERTY.
The SurePress and the clicking is a "hell no"...my goodness, please be done with that RIM. Finally, needs a new OS with the necessary specs to handle it.
the one thing i miss from my treo was the touchscreen... hopefully this comes out.
I was a storm user and switched to a tour. I found my self constantly trying to touch the screen and use my finger to scroll. I found touch input to be a way faster form of navigation then the trackball. I always dreamed of a blackberry with a true keyboard and a touch screen. This is is!
I eventually went back to a storm2 as the trackball was to slow to Get used to. So much faster just to touch where you want to go or swipe to flick scroll contacts. This phone has the best of both worlds.
Although now with the storm2 I can type faster then I can with a keyboard phone. The peizo screen on the new storm2 is awesome.
Its a GOOOOD idea...but I think the home button row looks stupid without something between the BB button and back button.
Is it just me or does the dude in the video sound just like Mclovin' from superbad lol.
They mixed the bold with the storm??
I just got a phone boner!
I can't wait to see what blackberry is doing with the Dakota. I hope it has a trackpad too. best of both worlds to navigate.
good work buddy
Im sick of people asking which carrier the magnum will go on, or wondering when we will see a magnum with a loaded OS. This was a protoype and will not be produced! It has been killed off and the dakota project is now in full swing instead.
I agree with you 110%
Please let it be out by the summer on AT&T. Hopefully the features on the Magnum is a noticeable upgrade then the Bold 9700 like a faster processor, more memory and a OS specialized for this particular phone and not the Storm OS adapted to the Magnum. Oh and 5MP too.
i think the concept is GRAND!!! i would love to have a Blackberry with a full keyboard and a touch screen......i hate completely touchscreen phones, they irritate me...this device, of course being a proto, def needs a bunch of improvements but i can see myself buying this one if it comes to AT&T
please release it fast...
I'm not one to holler about RIM's phones, but after seeing this I think I'll pass. Wtf do we want a "click clank" screen for?! It needs to be solid without any movement at all. I think I'll just keep my 9700, an if I miss the big size of the old Bold again, I'll just bring out the 9000. I don't care if its outdated or not. But considering this is a proto, I'm still hoping they improve! =P
very nice and looking forward to this device, a much better 9000 with build it touch now that's what im talking about the original is being enhanced to a power trip, will it work the way it should don't know but one things for sure 5.0 will be the norm by then. im definitely getting this and if its the same this mean my 18k parts will fit well into it, cant ask for anything less. also with BIS 3.0 things are getting brighter on rim's side.
The Bold 9000's Form Factor was a big hit to a lot of people, i dont know why RIM wouldnt make another Blackberry that size. They make all of the other BB's small and compact so why not bring the original Bold 9000 back new and improved...Im Just Sayin.....
Personally, I'm excited to see this! Prototype or not, this is great news in my opinion! I'm sure it'll be a while before this (or similar) device hit's any Carrier but it's nice to see that RIM is playing around with the idea more...
Did Apple make this crap too ? You go with a full touchscreen or nothing don't half ass.
It has to have a sliding keyboard - otherwise the screen will be too small for a true touchscreen experience, or the device will just be huge.
I bet they didn't get too far with this before they decided to scrap it.
Understanding the frustration of most users but this is a company with its own developmental staff and R/D. It's no surprise they went with Sure Touch being that it's BB's trade mark. I, maybe alone on this, think its a practical approach to combining the two input methods. If you look at the size of the icons used in the BB OS you'll see how they lend themselves to a touch screen. For OS navigation this is perfect. Although it doesn't lend itself to web usage it still has an advantage to track ball/pad navagation. I am looking forward to a production model and will indure with my Tour untill the possible, if not improbable, release.
Blackberry FAIL!
Am I the only one who loves the Bold form factor? I love its size even though people think it's too big. I would be open to seeing this phone come to life so long as it's not too small, ala Bold 9700.
obviously quite old based on it being the original Bold form factor... my very first reaction was "sure press? wtf???" buuuuut... having owned a few touchscreen devices (iphone 2G, 3GS, Nexus)... have a touchscreen that can be handled, but not inadvertently "touched", while not being off or locked-down is kinda nice... great application on a BB since i never lock or put to sleep my BB 9700 when putting it in the holster, and often touch/hold it by the screen when putting it in... so sure-press might actually be handy in that case
a blackberry that looks and feels just like an old Palm device... and we saw that idea/theory/practice tank... and EVERYONE can't wait for the all might RIM made Palm phone..... wow ....
I would personally love to have this phone. It would be perfect for me!
this is certainly good news. Good way to wake a fella up...idk about the Surepress though. Hopefully RIM rethink about it.
This thing was rightfully scrapped. The main advantage that touch screen devices have over regular devices with a solid keyboard is more screen real estate. For a wider screen, people are willing to put up with a touch screen, which, although great for media applications, is hellish to use for typing e-mails and such. The idea of a touch screen with a screen as small as most regular devices is frighteningly repulsive. It would be extraordinarily cumbersome, and there would be no point to it, since it would have lost the only advantage that touch screen devices have. Keep working on it, RIM. There has to be a better solution...
The Magnum project seemed to be very interesting. I wonder what caused RIM to go away from that. Was it the small touch screen, sure press? I could see something like that getting a lot of attention/buys form the loyal and people new to BlackBerry. Hopefully RIM is working on something with that combination and the screen is larger to work with. You never know. The prototype did get a lot of "drools". Hopefully the ideas of the loyal will generate outstanding input for RIM to create a great BlackBerry!
Very cool... Pretty much something that will be outstanding with touchscreen and a real tradtional BB keyboard.
Sadly, I'm just finding I really miss my roller-ball/trac-pad as I do a lot of typing and positioning the quickly curser to text edit is usually the biggest frustration I'm getting with touch screens. Add a trac-pad and we're truly styling.
Always "something" keeping them from being perfect huh?
capacitive panel is a must as well keep the track pad on this. Gives one the chance to navi like a regular BB, but when you want to snag a link fast, you can just touch it.
NO CLICK SCREENS!
Well if it do come out we can bet that its gonna have the Storm2 type of screen.
SurePress blows,and that screen is nowhere close to being big enough.RIM did the right thing.Now where is the Talladega?
Although the Bold 9000 screen is bigger than my 9700 screen. I still don't think that it is big enough to have a surepress touchscreen. I see this combination being problematic on such a smaller screen. I found the surepress to be somewhat challenging on the Storm which has twice the screen size.
i would buy it, mainly for the size of the keyboard. as far as touchscreen, apple,palm, and htc have a way better experience lined up. :/
now thats what i am talking about.. NICEE....
touchscreen + qwerty keyboard.. :D
I see what they tried to do there...but I'm lost on the appeal for how they had it set up. Something like the Samsung Moment, a slider with QWERTY and a touch-screen works. But to have a phone like that especially with surepress...eh. Not feeling it. Seems like it would be cumbersome in the long run.
hmm.. interesting, surepress aint that bad, but keyboard and press on the screen idk about that... geez RIM ... you guys ran out of ideas... ha.
Bro... The touch features should be like iphone, nexus or even palm pre!!!
Make a real cross over phone RIM!!! No click clack screens!!!
Not being a guru, what's so bad about having a qwerty keyboard and touch screen together? Seems like the best of both worlds to me. I love my 9700 and the trackpad is awesome. I'd think if it still had all that plus a touch screen with functions like flick scrolling, man it would just be the best device ever made!
Awww man ... Come on! A click clack touch screen?
The touch should be more like iphone, nexus, or palm pre!
What is BB doing!!!!
thats pretty tight
the bold is by far the best looking phone ever. I would have been all over that if RIM decided to go along with it.
we disagree on the 9000 being the "best looking device ever" factor.
I would love to see something like this come out. I wold prefer a slide out keyboard so I could have a bigger screen. I wonder what RIM moved on to after this?
there is supposed to be a slider in development. not sure what the code name is for it though
I understand the concept of having a front-facing QWERTY with a touchscreen. Great idea. But SurePress with a QWERTY...RIM needs to re-think that.
Don't get me wrong, I like SurePress...but not a good combination.
AGREED!! No sure press, please! Oh, and trackpad?? Where?? It needs a trackpad also.
Surepress sings CHEAP touch screen. Use an apple and you will understand. RIM please take note of the technology used on the apple touches. I can not recall what it is called right off hand. You get the point though.
A touch screen device with a track pad seems weird to me. I don't think it's necessary. Sure, you'd probably use it now and then if it was there. But I don't think you'd miss it too much.
Yeppers....Sure press is really a poor, poor choice for this device.
That device should be destroyed and never sold. Rim needs to stop making more of the same thing, and start innovating. This is not innovation. This is incest between two Blackberrys.
Sorry, didn't read the info. I wrote that 30 sec. into the vid... My bad
you are incest, I'm pretty sure you would have to be to think so narrowmindedly, RIM is trying to offer as many different options touch keybo flip suretype surepress etc etc the point is to appeal to all types of consumers
the 8707g was the first 3g blackberry idiot
Bahh, practically everyone refers to the 9000 as the first device with 3G. Why? Cause the 8707v never hit NA..AT&T refused it. So, while it may be slightly incorrect...to call someone an idiot for it is just plain rude. Even the AT&T commercials touted it as the first with 3G :/
Actually, if you want to get technical, you're ALL wrong.
8130, 8330, 8830=ALL 3G Devices
Uhh...the 8707v existed before ANY of those.
Actually, the 7130 back in 2005 and then the 7250 in 2006 were the first 3G Blackberries. Those were on Verizon/Alltel.
how long would it be until we see a video of the Magnum with software preloaded??..I like the size of the Bold 9000, but I love my 8900. can't wait to see more.
Great job CellGuru!
Interesting video. I have a feeling that the Dakota will be just a 9700 with a touch screen based off the fact that the Magnum was just a 9000 with a touch screen. Not sure how i feel about having a track pad AND a touch screen though.
There doesn't seem to be a track pad with the touch screen so you wouldn't have both.
Cool device but it would be better if it had an OS preloaded. Just wondering what carrier may get it first???? hmmmmm
It's a prototype, this particular device will not see the carrier release. Just possibly some other iteration of it.
supposedly GSM
I hate SurePress
And I people who hate SurePress
See how neither of our comments are really useful, informative, or add to the discussion?
lol you tell him bobaloo :P
AAAAWWWWWWWESSSSSSSSOOOOOMMMMMME can't wait to see if she comes to fruition