With the release of BlackBerry 10.2 we've heard plenty of talk about Miracast but as confirmed today during the live virtual event being held for the BlackBerry 10.2 SDK, the BlackBerry Z10 will not be gaining support for that due to internal hardware limitations.
This isn't really surprising news to folks who have been running the 10.2 leaks as of late, considering its been absent from all of those but it's more of an FYI for those who have heard of it and might have been waiting for it to arrive. Instead, only Wi-Fi Direct will be supported on the BlackBerry Z10 while the BlackBerry Q10 and BlackBerry Q5 will have both Miracast and Wi-Fi Direct.
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Miracast will not be available on the BlackBerry Z10, Wi-Fi Direct supported instead
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You'll probably find that it's the stl-100 variant of the phone that lacks the necessary internals required for the miracast, because if the z30 will support it (and will use z10 hardware) then there's no reason for the z10 not to be able to. That being said it probably is able to be run on a Z10 but then they would make an issue because STL-100s would be behind and further evidence to point to the fact that stl-100s are actually rebranded Dev alpha b's I currently use one, and it's definitely slower, as it has a 1GHz dual core instead of a 1.5Ghz, and therefore the older hardware might not have had miracast in mind. That's my thoughts
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How can a bigger phone with a smaller battery not have room for a hardware feature that a smaller phone has?
The way I look at it, my Z10 does everything today (and more) that it did when I first got it. Would I like it if it could use USB Host mode, full Bridge capabilities, and Miracast? Sure. But is not having any of these really a deal breaker?
Never even heard of miracast before this article. I've read through all the comments and seen many people spell it wrong. Not calling them stupid btw, what I'm trying to say is that nobody knows anything about it!
None of the TV's in my flat support it anyway. Both of them were bought even before the switch to digital which was years and years ago now... I'm not buying a smart TV. I will one day when I have broadband at home but until then i'll just make use of the HDMI port which I've never used but I'm interested now.
I understand both points of view though... I have to admit my heart sank when I read "due to hardware limitations" Jesus fucking Christ BlackBerry!! same bullshit over and over again. BlackBerry will never fully recover with TH as CEO! This is exactly what happened with the PlayBook! And even the cheaper Q5 gets the choice to use miracast when it does eventually become popular because Google will push for it.
I truly believe that BlackBerry should replace the management and marketing teams with CB addicts! We would do a much better job simply because we care so much! It seems like they don't care about loyal customers just money! I would jump at the chance to volunteer for them if I could make a difference and get more beautiful berry's into people's hands!!
I'm not saying this because I'm pissed off about not getting miracast, I really couldn't give a shit about that. I'm just annoyed that BlackBerry don't think before they act and future proof their amazing devices!
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I think this only matters to techies and not the general population.
Miracast isn't one of those things that most people will miss unless it becomes common on all screens(which I do not see happening). It's just a techie gimmick that only techies care about.
For everyone else, the Z10 is just as enjoyable without it.
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Pushed enter too early. For all the folks saying Miracast doesn't matter, it does to me. I bought the Z10 because they said they were going to fully support wireless to the TV and monitors (just like they said DLNA would be coming to the PlayBook). I wasn't expecting their premium device to have a three year old chip in it. BB10 devices were supposed to be the leading edge of mobile - that was the vision painted by Heins and his lackeys. Phoey.
Make no mistake, I'm happy enough with the existing functionality but these are the sorts of features BlackBerry needs to have to regain market share but it's actually going the other way - no surprise. Put MDM and BBM on other platforms and there is no reason for BlackBerry as a device maker to exist.
It's too bad. They had the ingredients but they fucked up the execution beyond all belief.
Posted in CB on CB10 on my last BlackBerry, the Z10
WiFi Direct is a requirement for Miracast... so Miracast support is like a "second tier" on WiFi Direct.
So the Z10 will only have "tier one" while the Qs will have tier one and tier two.
The headline of this article indicates that the Z10 will have "something comparable" INSTEAD of Miracast, but that's not the case.
And those saying that NFC doesn't have broad adoption yet, but having it in the device is good, it's the same with Miracast: sure, it doesn't have broad support yet, but it does have a purpose, one that it would be nice to have on the device.
This Z10 will be my last BlackBerry. I no longer have the patience or the forgiveness to tolerate their shoddy treatment of their most loyal customers. They had to have known from day 1 that the Z10 didn't have the HW but they didn't tell us the rumours were false. I don't know what I'll get instead but it's going to be from a company that is going to exist in two years. BlackBerry hasn't the foggiest idea how to gain market share and they have done everything they could to piss off their most loyal customers from dropping the playbook, to making bes10 totally incompatible with bes5 so that loyal users have to beg their IT departments to support it.
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@Bla1ze: Miracast, like BB10, is still in its infancy and needs time to develop and mature, and like BB10 it has attracted a core user base of early adoptors who recognize the immense potential of this feature. At this stage to arbitrarily proclaim that the performance "sucks" and there are better alternatives available is no different to the position taken by the media observers when they bash the seven month old BB10 OS because in their opinion it doesn't perform on par with the six year old iOS and the five year old Android OSes. I concede that there are fundamental differences between BB10 and Miracast, however your total disrespect toward the efforts at this attempt to bridge the mobile computing gap is surprising coming from you as a CrackBerry contributor. Having said that I agree with the comments regarding the lack of Miracast support on the Z10 yet support on the Q5, BlackBerry is fighting to regain US market share and needs to build true mobile computing devices with cutting edge specs across all price points that will enable smooth, seamless and convenient interfacing with a wide range of peripheral devices. Although probably not a fatal oversight, admitting that the Z10 has inherent hardware limitations reinforces the belief that BlackBerry is outdated and still playing catch up to the market leaders.
There's an epidemic of "BlackBerry apologism" going round at CrackBerry of late: there are legitimate tough business decisions, but where it directly impacts on loyal BlackBerry fans, CrackBerry's position seems to be "the company MUST survive" even if it means treating customers poorly... it's a notion I absolutely don't agree with: if they treat their customers poorly they don't DESERVE to survive. It's the same old thing, to me: after the apocalypse, when you're safely in your shelter with provisions and fresh water, and you hear a knock on the door... are you going to let in the person who showed in "good times" a complete self interest and lack of consideration for their fellow man? No... and what BlackBerry is doing is showing a very callous disregard for their best customers. We all have seen the movie "It's a Wonderful Life" and we root for the Bailey's not for Potter, even though Potter is making "sound business decisions" a la Ebeneezer Scrooge might. It's no way to treat your fellow man, business or not.
No wonder BlackBerry can't get their act together. Why can't they build all their phones with th same internals? Here, let me make it easy for them, take the absolute best tech in the phone industry, th highest specs, put it in a phone (but don't make it stupid looking or uncomfortable to hold to your ear, i.e. z10),and voila.
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So we're not getting usb otg? Someone tell me this isn't true. Being a BlackBerry supporter is like being in an abusive codependent relationship. "It's ok that he beat me again, he really is a great guy, he's just under a lot of stress right now".
Mobile computing, blah, blah, blah
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Hardware in current BB10 smartphones is not capable of USB OTG. You will need some kind of dock for it.
May I put a dongle on the Z10?
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And they called the z10 a premium product.
BlackBerry under TH is going downhill. What a joke
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I just went over to see if I was mistaken with the Q10 and Z10 having the same internal hardware. And except for the display, the internal specs are the same ! How can it be that the Z10 can't have Miracast whereas the Q10 and the Q5 will have Miracast? ! It's just not logical to me to say that the Z10 can't have Miracast due to internal hardware limitation....Can someone explain me how this can be?
They don't have the same internal hardware. In this case, Z10 uses the same WiFi chip as was found in the Playbook (now 3+ years old). The Q10 uses a newer Broadcom chip.
More specifically -2, -3, -4 uses old chips, cheaper -1 is capable of miracast. Where's the logic?
Let's add no USB OTG and the mobile computing spots can go fck themselves :D
Why z10? Pricey but outdated in internal hardware. Ouch it heart me lot. I use z10 stl-100-1 so much problem this Saturday I will swap new one , this is my number 5 device swapped. Why BlackBerry your device so problem? Maybe z10 stl-100-1 is the main problem compare to other versions, double standard for emerging markets. Do people have been thinking this?
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The fact is that surprisingly problem lays in versions 2, 3, 4. Stl-1 is capable of running miracast and I don't understand why it can't get it. I mean there already is fragmentation in Z10 versions so why they can't add miracast to it. No big deal and it would be some kind of recompense for -1 users.
I thought the z10 and q10 shared the exact specs, other than the screen differences.
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I cannot for the life of me understand why a feature not listed in a devices feature list when it launched 7 months ago somehow puts a bad taste in people's mouths today when it was announced that it will not be supported. I bought my Z10 for every thing it did when I got it. It has only gotten sweeter with every update/leak that has come out. By the time I get something that supports miricast (most likely never) I will have a shiny BlackBerry that will support it! I don't need it now, and I didn't need it when I got my phone... Every one of you that thinks BlackBerry did something wrong here needs to reevaluate yourselves! Geesh!
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one problem for Blackberry buyer...
if you buy blackberry phone, just be glad for feature you get when you buy the phone, don't hope for next future technology arrived on your phone
while if you buy other platform (android & iOS) not only you buy it for today use, you can get the next technology for your phone.
Yup, you by an iPhone today and you will get nfc tomorrow.
Your comment is quite useless if you really think about it. An android update can only be as good as the hardware running it, don't expect one upgrade to enhance features on every droid device if the internal hardware can't support it. I did not see apple activate siri on the the 4, u had to by the 4s to get it, even of the 4 had the hardware to support it....
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Mind boggling how short sighted BlackBerry is sometimes
Fired from my Z10
Somehow I don't think this is a big deal :p
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Hana Bbry strikes again. So the q5 gets it and not the z10 lololol . So typical, reminds me of Torch not getting NFC but 9360 gets it and also FM built in.
The Z10 (or any other BB10) doesn't allow for wireless charging, right? Where's the outrage for that? :P
The Q5, a so called budget smartphone, which is half the price of the flagship Z10, will have this feature, but not the z10.
Further affirms that the company has no idea what it's doing.
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Hana Bbry strikes again. So the q5 gets it and not the z10 lololol . So typical, reminds me of Torch not getting NFC but 9360 gets it and also FM built in.
What is miracast
Artie
"Due to internal hardware limitations".... Z10 is only 7 to 8 months old and yet, we are already hearing "due to internal hardware limitations".... BlackBerry devices seems to have short lifetime span...
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Ha ha, burnt again...this company is at least consistent. Not really trying to troll, but at least you can depend on their consistent failure to deliver on the features people actually WANT.
Bullshit, we need to fix that right away.
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So this makes a difference to what 1% of all buyers?
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already googling about miracast, and meh...I don't think it is important feature for me, I don't even care if my Z will support or not, not going to play with it anyway
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I have a Z10, a DLNA wifi router and a DLNA smart tv with wifi direct also built in . Streaming video and such is fine for me. I can even control the volume and such right from my BlackBerry. So, I'm happy with what it can do. Not a deal breaker for me. But still, kinda sad it has an older chip and I can understand some people being mad at that.
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You gotta be kidding me...the Z10 is supposed to represent the next step in the evolution of BlackBerry and it's new OS...yet the Q10 and Q5, which are good devices but really amount to upgraded retro devices...get better resources allocated than the Z10...wow!
I'm getting my ass kicked as a Z10 owner!?! What the hell!? If BlackBerry thinks that the Q10 and Q5 are the future, then why the hell did they bother with the Z10 (which by the way I'd still choose over anything Apple, Samsung or Microsoft have to offer)?
Is the Z10 to become the next PlayBook?
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Q5 does, and Z10 doesn't?! What about this video? Must have been an Z30 in a Dev Alpha A case...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEPYYo0-gfc
Don't believe everything you see on T.V...
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More than likely, it is displaying a video via DNLA rather than Miracast. The Z10 does have DNLA, so it can stream videos and select content via wifi. There wasn't anything in that video that showed the person displaying their Z10 screen wirelessly on the TV (Hub, icons, active tiles...).
Someone has to stop these leaks / recants. Somehow CrackBerry Nation got the idea that Miracast support would be part of a future OS update... and now we find out that the Z10 chipset isn't up to the task.
Doesn't ANY idiot at BlackBerry know what the chipsets are capable of before these things leak? At LEAST leak that it will only be for the Q10 due to the different chipset if you're going to allow it to leak at all.
Case in point that I fear another management shakeup at BlackBerry is indicated.
Bla1ze man, you gotta help me out! My Z10 which has been flawless for me and exceeded my expectations doesn't support something that I've never even heard about before your article. Damn living in a linear time line sucks. I feel like that one time at work when my co-workers were talking about bit coin mining. I had no idea what a bit coin was or how/why to mine them, but I wanted in. I was devastated to learn that my brand new pc would not be sufficient to successfully mine bit coins. Geez what will I do? I guess I'll wait for the next "big thing" to bitch and complain about.
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Ignorance is the big thing, one the veil is lifted and your understanding awakens to it then you have a need for all these inventions. Never knew there was anything like MIRACAST, read the article and now I'm looking for a damn phone that has it, besides my Z10 still rocks!
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The reason iPhone didn't sell much was a mistake of not having a HDMI port design on the phone. Just one feature missing can cripple the whole project. Learn Learn Learn! Have these features available, then it's up to us to decide if we want to use it or not. Silly!
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I phones still have no NFC and blackberry was the first and look how that has paid off.
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SMH at ppl who don't bother reading the article properly.
Q10 and Q5 still supports Miracast, just not the Z10. It's probably supported on future Z30 too. Just because one model (the Z10) doesn't support it, it's not gonna mean that the world is ending.
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Will It be on the z30
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Z10 is so good, regardless of Miracast. Don't feel like you're missing out on anything because until now, many of you clearly didn't really care and probably never even knew much about the feature, just like myself. I only recently clued into Miracast because it was in the new 10.2 on my Q10.
Any other future or early adoptable features that are just arriving in the spotlight or not even invented yet, better yet, not even thought about that the Z10 won't have? LOL. My Z10 still doesn't seem to press my waffles for breakfast in the morning like a phone in 2018 might.
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I have a game controller as well as the BlackBerry bluetooth keyboard, for when I eventually acquire a big screen to use with my BlackBerry 10 devices. All that would work perfectly fine with an hdmi cable. So, whatever. I have a Q10 too, so I can use that via Miracast or the Q5 when it arrives in the mail. Miracast is a cool feature, sure, but a necessity? Nope, hardly that. I think it's more of a becessity on a the Q5 because of the fact it has no hdmi port. I also think it will be more of a necessity in the future than it will be in the next couple years or so, meaning - my Z10 is certainly NOT any lesser of a device as a result of never getting the Miracast feature. Besides, everybody who uses a Z10 now and loves it, like I do, will be getting (more than likely) a Z30 because that's the way it is.
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LOL "becessity", hahaha! New word. I'm gonna use it more. Psyche.
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What would that mean?
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I gotta say I'm really not concerned over the lack of Miracast on the Z10; a brand new tech with relatively little real world adoption. Pretty sure I'll get by somehow.
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OMG BBRY is dead because the Z10 won't support Miracast WIFI. We better sell all our stock and shutter the doors and windows. if i had a nickel for all the times people claimed doom and gloom around here i would be rich. all summer long it has been OMG we don't have instagram....now Miracast.
I know, lets all breathe deeply and relax and remember that its JUST A CELL PHONE
+100000000000
Z10, PlayBook, 9810, 9000.
Plus what about all those phones that don't have HDMI that are supposed to be flagship devices where are the people whining the z10 has HDMI. Smartphones aren't about having every bit of hardware possible that people will never use especially if it's not widely supported. OK a non phone example laser discs had a standard doesn't mean that it was widely accepted or it caught on.
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Superfly_FR...you speak sense.
People raved about NFC and although we all have it I don't know a single person who uses it.
I worked for a major coffee chain where it's a viable form of payment.
In 3 months I had one person ATTEMPT to use it.
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I agree with these recent posts, maybe it's something for the next model but I'm not worried about it yet..its definitely NOT a make or break reason to buy a Z10 or not.
Look at NFC...be honest, how many people even use this?
And because there are various standards it's been made half useless anyway...
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Does Windows Phone support Miracast?
If miracast such a big deal why haven't I heard of it more. It's like Google glasses or the apple watch nice gimmick but nothing earth shattering or useful
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Who the f**k cares about miracast?!? Your all acting like blackberry was meant to have it, but have lost out on it. Does ip5 have it? No does sgs3/4 have it? No where on my earth are the tvs that support it anyway.
Holly cow. What a blow !
In real world: DLNA is on any decent recent TV (say 90%). Miracast is ... nowhere. And we're far from certain that it'll be a real world standard before Z10 is renewed (say 3 years). Mama. Why do I comment this ...
What's all the hoopla? Was any Z10 buyer ever promised by BlackBerry that they will install Miracast on the phone at a later date? Too much whiners and complainers.
I have owned an iPad for a couple of years and the update to its iOS is always for "bugs and fixes etc", nothing mind blowing.
For crying out loud, BlackBerry is really trying hard to make the BlackBerry experience sweet. The Wifi direct is a bonus plus all the major tweaking on the 10.2 OS update.
Like the BlackBerry motto says "keep moving" to another phone if you are that disappointed or unhappy. Lol.
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I'm starting to doubt that the Z will even get WifiDirect since we're not far from a release and we still have no sign of it in the Wifi settings. Same for camera settings.
Agree with RevyRah, the BlackBerry needs to have the very best features available.
I do suppose however that doing that is like building a rolls Royce that may not sell.
So far BlackBerry have had to find a balance that returns them to profitability.
I don't believe they quite got it, but by God, the Z10 is a fine piece of technology and BB10 is a beautiful platform.
Just needs something, a spark, to bring back the wow factor of The BlackBerry.
Maybe the flagship phone should just be called The BlackBerry and pile in every piece of tech there is.
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Just get a Pico Projector and all issues are solved.
Having Moracast or not may only affect 1/100 buyers. I've never heard of it. I don't even use my hdmi. I just want a phone that has the best apps and works quickly, speed and fluidity are a massive factor. I'm unsure how the Z10 ever beat the iPhone5 in a browsing test as my girlfriends iphone5 will render any page quicker. Largely because almost all websites are now iPhone compatible...i love my Z10 and likewise I defend the brand but I think we can all see where and why things are heading in the way they are.
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;) make it 1/1000 and then we'll know why it wasn't worth the $x less in profit.
While I do agree with the general sentiment that the majority of Z10 users do not NEED Miracast support (let alone know what it exactly is), I cannot help but feel a bit of a bitter taste in my mouth on this one.
While I know technology is a constant game of cat and mouse, and let's face it, no matter what you buy, within a month or less it is already outdated essentially, but this just seems like such an oversight.
Do I have a need for Miracast right now? No. Would I like the option of using Miracast in the future? Yes. While this isn't exactly the straw that breaks the camel's back in my opinion, this is not good news for the general populous and only seeks to add more ammo to an already anti-BB crowd out there.
I cannot help but picture myself in a situation a year down there road, still sporting my faithful Z10 and wishing to use Miracast if it does become a popular feature on many devices and not being able to use it. While I know work arounds exist, they are not optimal in my opinion.
I bought the Z10 relatively early on because I am a huge supporter of BB and felt confident in the product given the time frame they had been working on it. I cannot help but feel let down that devices a year older than the Z10 pack this feature in while the Z10 does not. What does this say about a phone that is THAT outdated barely 6 months out of the gate? Nothing good, alas.
Wasn't this phone supposed to be a flagship device?
Wasn't this supposed to be sporting the same internals as the Q10 roughly?
Was it cost prohibitive to include a new chip? If not, what was the reason for this oversight?
I think BB does owe us loyalists an answer other than 'it will not work, but here is wi-fi direct anyways". If my Z10's internals are outdated this badly already, what does this say of the longevity of the phone a year down the road?
Do not get me wrong, I love my Z10 and the BB10 experience; simply smooth and an all around great experience, but it is the principle of this matter which frustrates me the most. Why was the product pushed out to BB loyalists if it did not sport at bare minimum current hardware? I do feel somewhat cheated here, Miracast or not.
Thank you! Finally! +1
Oh crap. I really though I had a top notch, high end phone. Should BlackBerry create it's own proprietary technology for wireless video streaming like Google and Apple did? Miracast sucks right now but I have high hopes for it on a near future.
As much as I would absolutely LOVE to have Miracast on my Z10, it really isn't that big of a deal. If there are alternatives that work well, this really shouldn't be an issue. We'll get over it.
With that said, BlackBerry DOES need to get their asses in gear. The Z10 is supposed to be a much better product than the Q5, and yet that watered down Berry has the feature supported.
This is the same nonsense as the Torch 9850/60 not getting NFC while the other crap did. It's the same as the 9900/30 having the worst camera of almost any BlackBerry to date, and it was their flagship phone. BlackBerry can NOT afford to keep ignoring top notch features that people want/need for their devices.
**As for folks ripping into Bla1ze as a writer, go to hell. This guy busts his ass multiple times a day on numerous sites and events to help informas many people as possible about the good and bad. If you can't respect that, get the hell off of site and don't come back. **
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And before you start with the fanboy crap.... I am PISSED because my Q10 can't make phone calls from the lock screen. now that's something to be pissed about.
Especially as I view it as a consumer emergeny feature. If something happened to me ANYBODY, especially emergency services could call my ICE numbers.
Fix that before you start on this miracast shite that cost me more money to have.
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Fanned...
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What I'm shocked. Actually I don't have any device at home that support Miracast so for my situation, this news doesn't affect me at all.
WHYY
Posted via Z10 STL100-3 using CB10. Fido, Toronto.
To all the haters....... your full of shit. simple.
So you blessed Z10 isn't supporting miracast. IF you REALLY needed this as an option you shouldn't have bought the phone in the first place you should have bought a phone with the feature already installed.
Oh wait it's new you couldn't have.
But it's important that you view your phones screen on your TV. Major IMPORTANT right? So you have been using a HDMI Cable all this time....
Go thank BlackBerry they just saved you $30 dollars. And stop being retarded.
Why do these fuckwits cry over such bullshit. My TV is near 5 yrs old. It has THE best picture quality on the market. I am not changing it cause a newer on has; apps, a camera, miracast etc. I bought for the picture quality.
What did you buy your phone for, remember that, enjoy it and stop crying like a little bitch.
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+1
This, post of the day.
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Bravo! My thoughts exactly.
Hardcore BlackBerry er'
+100
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Hardly the make or break app for me. But sorry for those of you that want it.
Bla1ze is right - miracast sucks anyway. It aims to be cross platform, but isn't. Many other options which are relevant right now. If you want it, get a Google phone and submit to them and forget about your privacy. They admitted as much in a U S Court relative to gmail. SMH
Non issue for me. I'm happy with my Z10. It does what I need it to do.
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+1
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Does anyone have wifi direct. I don't see it in mine. I'm on Z10STL100-1/10.2.0.1047
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On the same OS and in don't see it either.
Maybe they could still give it to us considering we have the correct hardware for it.
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I'm frustrated about this news, the fact that I get married to Z10 for the next 2 years and I'm not gonna get this, sucks! Guess I will file an early divorce and will find someone else. Hehe
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Question...Does this type of mind set carry over into your real life thoughts pertaining to "for better or worse." If so, I might I suggest counseling?
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Of course not man! In real life people get matured, understand, adopt and accept, in this case the Z10 has a hardware limitation and you have to upgrade your device if you want that new promising feature. :-)
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Haha, BBRY is really a pro in fooling their customers...anyone beside fanboys still wnat to hear another story about mobile computing?
Does this mean it will not be available on the Z30?
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Saying frigging Z10 is out of date and obsolete is bad news....not even a years old
That's an overstatement. Didn't the States just get Z10 about 3 months ago? Lol... And those are the consumers that care about having 'every option available'. BlackBerry's slogan is becoming " who needs 'em!"
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I don't get it why would I need video on my Z10 over wi-fi from another device. Who is using this thing?
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Actually it's more to do with the fact that BB chose to go with cheaper components in the first place as where Google made there Nexus 4 with hardware that is more future proof. A simple Firmware upgrade ( Jelly Bean 4.3 ) and Nexus devices now have Miracast support. DLNA was introduced by Sony in 2003. It stands for Digital Living Network Alliance (DLNA) and is made for ( defines guidelines to enable sharing of digital media between connected devices ) It is NOT Miracast. nor will it ever be. totally different.
Again though, Nexus 4 released November 13, 2012, future proof phone.
BB Z10 released Feb 5 2013 ( Canada) Future proof ? does not seem like it
Blaze, what's Wi-Fi Direct then good for? I mean what's the honest practical implication of a device like the Z10 only offering Wi-Fi Direct (instead of also Miracast)?
Thanks a lot!
Wifi Direct can be used to transfer large files between devices. As an example, sending a file initiated by NFC usually transfers files via bluetooth, which can either take a while, or limit the file size. NFC combined with Wifi Direct can transfer larger files quickly. It's how the Samsung Galaxy series sends videos between devices.
Sorry for the late reply and thanks a lot for the explanation. Fully understood, very clear now! :)
Unbelievable!
Eunoia1995
I could have sworn there was an article on CrackBerry on how Miracast was better than Chromecast. Maybe another site.
Honestly though, until ABC iView and BBC iPlayer works on BlackBerry, I'll keep using the iPad / iPod Touch with the Apple TV for my mobile entertainment needs.
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Can someone explain why mini hdmi doesn't cover this issue?
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If you want Miracast support, I guess you just buy yourself a Z30. It's in 10.2 so obviously some device gets to use it :)
These comments just show Blackberry fans are tired of Blackberry. This news is nothing to complain about because even if other smartphones do have this feature there is not one smartphone out there (or tablet - except Surface pro) that replaces a laptop, so what the hell are you going to be doing with your phone when you get all this set up? Just carry a f-ing latop. This may come in the future but right now no phone replaces a computer, unless you really do no work at all.
While I agree that BlackBerry needs to get as many features on the devices as possible as a selling point, you all do realize that most phones do not have every last bit of technology on them? It's ridiculous to think that it is an absolute requirement that a phone support every protocol, standard, or feature out. Technology moves quick and your phone may not have it all, be it Android, iPhone, or BlackBerry. Live with it or better yet get on a new six month upgrade plan. Your carrier will love you for it.
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Ok so it's not available on the z10 but supported on the OS. This is a positive step for the platform and a minor irk for a single product in the platform. Realistically miracast although a cool feature isn't as critical to sales as the core OS experience, app support, speed, quality of the display, etc. The average user that needs to be buying phones to keep this company afloat won't know what mircast is yet. By the time they do we'll be onto generation 2 or 3 of the Z10.
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For me this is so a non-issue. I own no devices that support this technology but several devices that have HDMI. So does my Z10. This to me is very very low in my list of priorities, in fact I don't think it even makes the list.
I didn't even have anything that supports maracas anyway. I can just keep using micro HDMI with Bluetooth mouse and keyboard like I do now
Nowhere near the letdown that was BB10 not coming to PlayBook.
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I hear all the post about how we didn't know about miracast until recently, but with the invention and seemingly well received Google Chromecast, similar tech is now very relevant. And to have a device that was supposed to be the same as the Q10 or superior to the Q5 is disappointing. Guess device fragmentation is more than simply screen size and res.
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The Z30 will be the true Z10 and the current Z10 will be re-named the Z5......lol
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Miracast will not be available on the BlackBerry Z10 <-------- is exactly why I chose a GOOGLE Nexus 4 over Z10. At least my phone is RELEVANT even 2-3 -4 yrs after it was released. Updates come fast and with no Carrier issues and are supported on my device yrs later. Even my old Galaxy Nexus got the 4.3 update.
The Z10 is how old ? Clearly BB has not learned a dam thing.
So you don't even have a Z10?
You choose wisely. For the price, the Nexus 4 is without question the best smartphone ever made. I love mine so much that I'm keeping it even after I move to the next LG made Nexus (if there is one, not a fan of Motorola).
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The next Nexus will be a Galaxy S4 and an HTC One with "pure Android" as far as I know... I don't know if Google will continue to produce devices under the Nexus name if it continues to irritate their big-name third-party Android device manufacturers.
irritate ? LOL What ?
You think Samsung is irritate? HTC ? LG ?
Do you honestly think that if BB was on Android and it was making the kind of $$ HTC Samsung or LG are making that it would be irritate ? BB can't even match WP8 so that last thing it would be is irritate. No one is irritate , I have no idea what or where you are getting that info from.
Also , the Next Nexus Device will indeed be a NEXUS brand phone and it will either be Sony or possibly Motorola or maybe HTC , LG again. No idea but regardless The S4 and HTC One both with Pure stock Android is something that is marketed by Samsung and HTC. Nothing to do with Google's next Nexus 5. Your getting the wrong info my friend.
It's not info it's just an assumption. Will Samsung and HTC etc. be so keen on Android when Motorola is putting out devices with custom features that their parent company, Google, bakes right into the core OS of Android, whether or not Samsung and HTC want it baked in or want to implement those features themselves? It's gonna irritate all Android vendors sooner or later.
Sony might be the next Manufacture up. But all the Nexus Branded devices have been awesome ,except maybe for the fist HTC ever made so long ago but hey , that was like the first ever so.
if u really need miracast just buy z30. z10 can't support everything.
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Oh ok, so that is the solution. Everyone just fork over another $600 and get a Z30 . Ya that is really an option.
Even with trying to sell a Z10 ( of which you'd be lucky if someone paid $150 for it ) you would still be out of pocket +- $400
Its the same thought as when Apple decides to include NFC, whenever that may be.
Why get a Z30 hoping for this mire cast update ad rather get a Samsung or iPhone and know for definite. Tbh my z10 is sh*t no apps all anroid mays well have got a fuking anroid phone to start off with. Thirston hinze can suck me dlck proper crap phone
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Blaize its time for a 101 Miracast overview !
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So is there any direct wifi for tvs?
My son always wanted my Z10 he loves it big time ! Loves the keyboard, do Z30 do not disappoint !
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That's why the Z10 was a live market tested phone. The Z30 is the true Z10 !
Sorry, folks call it the Z10 PlayBook for thé Z30 Launch !
It's Z30 for me !
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I wonder what sort of internal limitations they're referring to internal space the Z10 seem more spacious than the Q10 and Q5 I'm absolutely gobsmacked that a restriction is available in the z10 I mean they're the same system it's probably they fixed some tweeks since the z10 was the first BB10 device but who knows let's hope they clarify it personally I've participated in the thread just to mention that it's not fair on those that bought the z10 luckily I've bought the Q10 but honestly while streaming video's online the z10 is a better choice I'm thinking of purchasing it or shall I wait for the z15\30 aka "Aristo".
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WOW, so they do not make it available to Z10 Owners but they do to Q10 and Q5 ?
That is ridiculous ! My Nexus 4 just received this ability with Google's 4.3 Update !
Wtf is wrong with BB ? This no way to support people that purchased a phone ( Z10 ) barely half a yr old.
That is unacceptable .
I am disappointed but not surprised, every phone I've ever owned on all platforms are generally obsolete within 6 to 8 months. I do not plan on sticking to ma Z10 once Z30 arrives anyway other than as a back up purse phone. I can understand the frustration though from people stuck with their device for long contracts ect.
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How about the z30?
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Yet again they fall behind. Oh well more reason to go to the competition. That's what you get for putting out half arsed hardware, that is run of the road.
So off the top of your head, name me five other devices that support Miracast. No looking online either...
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Guys I think the only real disappointment so far with blackberry is its lack of apps...honestly the fone browses faster than the iPhone, has a pretty good camera and still has the best keyboard....all this stuff about not having miracast sucks but really it's not the problem blackberry should be focusing on....i think we all just want the ability to go to the app store and download the latest fun app without having to side load some less quality version or not have it all together
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I agree 100%. Apps apps apps. Do people really think that the carriers will use Miramar or Wi Fi Direct as a selling point? No...I highly doubt it. The majority of smartphone users want to text, chat, email, Tweet, post to Facebook, take pics for Instagram, record for Vine, Snap chat, and watch YouTube.
Let's be real with what people really want. Take care of the "Technology Illiterate"
first. Then let the techy stuff be the extra gems. Not having Miracast isn't why BlackBerry is where they're at.
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I remember how the game developers during BB Live were talking about Miracast on the Z10 would be more convenient than the current micro HDMI.
BlackBerry is really beginning to disappoint by releasing a product without a proper vision for it.
Miracast is not of any use to me, but it sure sucks to know that BlackBerry is not building products that would have a life longer than the competitors because they (competitors) are stuffing their products with the latest hardware.
The difference in price between chips could be measured in a few dimes.
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I think I'll delete Crackberry...I didn't know about miracast or care about it, or even particularly want to know about it, but now I know I won't get it I'm annoyed. Lol
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Lol! So true! I have a feeling most the people upset about it are in the same boat. "Miracast? What's that? Google-google...oh, that's what it is, I won't get it?? Curse you BlackBerry!"
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Lol so many people want everything :) but they even don't bother use the available alternative (or even better one).
For examples I have mu computer with 4 tb HD, now I can connect it to my z10, and have All my files accessible anyway (over let or wifi).
Put few bucks get a blutooth mouse and a micro to hdmi cables then you enjoy z10 screen on home tv, hotel tv, offices tv, and projector. You don't have to limit your self in such a way just now. If they tech get popular, may be your want another BlackBerry z50 maybe. Why frustrated by this? Get a way Roud better way.
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Correct +1
From my sweet black Q10 (Z10 standing by).
What is Miracast...
Honesty never heard of it until this thread.
Nice to have everything but let's be realistic the Q10 and now Q5 are newer devices than the Z10.
I would hope the new devices have newer tech than older ones
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I agree. Perhaps the article should have said -- Q10 and Q5 get Miracast capabilities.
Anyway, as much as I like bleeding edge stuff, this isn't a deal-breaker for me. I'm sure Miracast will get better as the tech and standards improve. I'll wait for that with my next phone. Still want to see lawguyman's video though!!
Uhh ohh. Happy to have a my Q
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So disappointed.
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Can't believe I spent $550 on the Z10. Could have gotten a better Android device. What a shame...
USB Host mode also unavailable for the Z10.
I've literally never heard of miracast. Seems like it's a screen sharing app after reading up a little. Is there any difference between it and the other systems out there?
Hey we got BBM. Not much of anything else just BBM. I'm getting tired of seeing friends and family with bleeding edge tech and all I can say is I can send you a text and see if you read it. Ok rant over.
BlackBerry 10 Slider where are you??
Who the hell makes these decisions?
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My Z10 doesn't lay golden eggs. OMG....
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You're that the phone is outdated already? We have DLNA and micro-hdmi, is not like the device is crippled.
How do you use outdated chips lol
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The same way Google did. Hello, Nexus 7?
There is a Hack to enable Miracast for the old Nexus 7 on XDA.
Ya, I know. I just don't care.
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Does Nexus 7 cost the same as Z10?
Nope. And neither stated they would support Miracast when I bought them.
Wtf is going on with these people? WIRELESS DLNA AND MICRO-HDMI PORT, why isn't that enough?!? Sure it would've been great to have miracast but it's not really that much of a problem.
So why bring Google into this conversation? Since the Nexus7 doesn't have the same limitation as acknowledged by you (with the hack).
Because it was a similar technical oversight. Can end users get it without the hack? No. Then it is not supported and to the majority, doesn't exist. Just like how Instagram on BlackBerry 10 doesn't exist to the majority.
Ok...can end users get it with a hack using the Z10? As of now, no (i hope in the future somehow). So the comparison to Google's Nexus7 is not right, as it can be done using Nexus7. Anyway, it is what it is... :(
Why don't you tell everyone the truth ?
The Nexus 7 does Support Miracast with the recent 4.3 Update.
The Z10 can NOT support it, because the hardware in it . BIG Difference Blaze. u sound like a tool sometimes.
2013 version supports it officially, previous generation does not have official support. What's not truthful about what I said? If you want the previous generation to work, you need the XDA hack for it. I've stated that all throughout these comments and so has lawguyman.
You can still mirror hard wired. It's more reliable anyway. Compared to wireless mirroring hard wired has little to no interference.
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Hmmm, it's an old marketing trick. Sell a device and release another device a few months later with one or two new features (all in the marketing plan). This is to give you a reason to buy a new device. Samsung does it all the time.
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So does Apple, lol!
Z10=Playbook.
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The bright side is that Blackberry is telling you sooner that they are screwing you over. It didn't string you along for 2 years then screw you like the playbook.
How can this be ?! As far as I know the Q10 has the same internal hardware than the Z10 except for the screen ! Why is BlackBerry driving it's company in the wall ! ? always decieving their loyal customer ! I bought the Z10 being BlackBerry Flagship model ! Not that it is already outdated ! It's not really about Miracast support, but for the fact that BlackBerry doesn't care about their loyal customers ! I mean even the downgraded Q5 will have Miracast support so where is the problem? I don't get it !
Anyway another Screw-Loyal-Customer announcement ...
While this is fitting a pattern and teaching me to keep my mouth shut instead of promoting BlackBerry...
My two year old high end Samsung smart TV does not support miracast so it is no loss and I do not plan updates. Same goes for every display I know in my vicinity. I think the masses in contrast to tech addicts will not miss it. They also do not notice WPS missing in iPhones
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Before you all burn BlackBerry at the stake, again.
Let's ELI5 the two.
Miracast is like a screen extension from your device to a display. It's like extending your laptop screen to a monitor.
WiDi (wifi direct) is like a screen extension from your device to a display. It's like extending your laptop screen to a monitor.
See what I did there.
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WiDi is a Intel protocol. So no matter what device you have. They both do the same effin' thing.
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Lol! Nevermind the fact that Miracast uses Wifi-Direct technology, but that'll just confuse things...
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WiFi Direct is not the same thing as WiDi.
Z10 is getting Wifi Direct. This will only permit file transfer between devices. It won't permit video mirroring like Miracast.
WiDi pemits video but Z10 isnt getting that.
Really? Don't tell the Wifi consortium.
http://www.wi-fi.org/discover-and-learn/wi-fi-direct
Because it is, plus more.
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Sorry my typo, you're correct.
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I meant it's not the same as WiDi but it does support screen share and "casting"
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No. Keep reading.
Keep reading. Miracast operates over WiFi Direct. WiFi Direct is just a kind of connection. Z10 is getting the ability to make Wifi Direct Connections but not the ability to make Miracast transfers.
I would say close 95% of smartphone users do not even know what miracast is.....
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I never heard of miscast before today. So I could care less about that. I have heard of coffee and am disgusted that my z10 can't make a coffee! Can someone give me Thors number?
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Tongue firmly in cheek, but to all of you screaming that's it's not fair, why are you getting so worked up. You know that this is BlackBerry and by the time 10.2 comes out - three years from now - you would have already bought a new phone that has this miri-thing installed. Lol
On a more serious note, again, this shouldn't be that surprising that a product from BlackBerry isn't getting something - thats been happening all the time with their products - it's not that surprising.
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like a lot of people have said it was never promised so how are BBRY letting us down.
it is not a thing i would use any ways so no great loss
I'm getting a kick out of the people losing it over a function they didn't have in the first place, nobody promised it on the Z10, and from what I can tell isn't even widely used yet. Heck a lot of people didn't even know what it was! But how dare they not give it to us. They should probably offer all BlackBerry owners free hardware upgrades to make up for this (because that's what Samsung and Apple do everytime they come up with a new device, right? right?)
People are acting as thought it was something that we had, and then BlackBerry decided that they were taking away.
I think most people, including me are more mad that they would limit a BRAND NEW device by using two year old tech. That is why I am a little mad, I may never use it like you say but now I don't have the option to.
Still have my HDMI cable :)
Just give me (ill pay for it) the Multimedia cradle and I'll be a happy camper :)
Well although I don't think I would ever use it, still what were they thinking of using an outdated chip lol, did they really save all that much money, or was it time. They couldn't release the Z10 because the NEW chip that went in the Q10 wouldn't of been ready and they would of had to push the release back again. So the customers pay the price I guess. Again I probably wouldn't of used it and I love my Z10 like crazy but really why why why why!!!!! More bad press, So OVER IT
Except their are devices way older than the Z10 that have chips to support it. BlackBerry just put in an ancient chip from the PlayBook probably to save a little bit, but it just makes them look like good ole RIM!
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Whatev...
#BB10Believe
There is a reason BlackBerry is in the position of having to sell itself.
LOL, all because Miracast isn't coming to the Z10? Really?
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Where have you been? This is the latest in a long line of "your device won't support this new feature' from BB.
Indeed, just adding up on the pile of straws. Why should the Q5, a "lower-end" device, include it then? Especially if it's such crappy technology, shouldn't they have just excluded it from everything?
Either there's a selling point, or there isn't a selling point. To defend it not being in the Z10 (because Miracast sucks) while the Q10 and Q5 have it (because they're capable, but Miracast still sucks?) is really missing the point.
How can BlackBerry justify the Z10 as a "multimedia" device for the "masses" without Miracast?
Fancy using hardware that couldn't support it... Looks like the rumoured firmware update want be coming either...
Because few people use Miracast in the grand scheme of things.
Complain about no Instagram, Netflix, Blackboard, Office etc.
This is not anywhere near likely to be missed by most
That seems a little bit strange. I suppose Miracast was an after thought for the Z10. Oh well. I have the Q10 and Q5 is coming in the mail soon. The Z30 will have Miracast too, can't wait for that device!
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SO typically Blackberry. Wish their was more to say than that, but sadly anyone who's been following BB for the last 5 years knows what I mean.
This is about the equivalent of complaining that there isn't a Unix version of BlackBerry Link. Few will care
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Being a tech junkie, I can see one part of me us upset that a phone near 8 months old has tech that isn't upgradable.
Here's how I argue those points. One, I own no devices that support Miracast. Two, it was never promised to begin with. And finally, I will get WiFi direct which I own at least one device of.
If anything, I rather have wireless charging on the Z10 if it was possible.
"So we are never give up!" on my TKBerry Z10
+1 man
WhiteZed10youdumba$$
How is wifi direct different in real life use than Miracast?
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The Z10 is the PlayBook and Storm of the new BlackBerry. They had plenty of time while they weren't releasing BB10 to update the design and hardware, but they instead decided to throw it over the wall knowing that it wouldn't support a key feature of their mobile computing vision with BB10. I will never be an early adopter of this companies products again. Should have learned that lesson with the PlayBook, but I guess I bought into BlackBerry Isn't RIM hoopla, but it is and they operate and treat their customers just as poorly as RIM did.
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This was not something I was hoping to use. I don't have any other miracast devices and what I have seen was flakey. I personally don't think the current version will catch on. The dream of miracast is nice. The delivery so far I have seen is poor.
"Hardware limitations" sure is quickly becoming the BB mantra...
Does the q10 support maracast
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"Instead, only Wi-Fi Direct will be supported on the BlackBerry Z10 while the BlackBerry Q10 and BlackBerry Q5 will have both Miracast and Wi-Fi Direct."
So stupid had to post again, so if i want to stick with BlackBerry i gotta shell out another $500 dollars for another phone, phone less than a year old is already inadequate? When i got my z10 i figured it wouldn't be fully baked, thought the updates would fix that as long as i kept patience, guess i was wrong, man blackberry sure likes to screw their loyal customers
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Do you have a specific reason to miss mIracast? Did you even know what it is before this article?
Yes i knew what it was, i was expecting it to enjoy the same kind of functionality i had with iPhone 5 and apple tv, but thought it would be better because don't need a box like apple tv
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Well played BlackBerry.. weren't we told at launch that the Q10's internal hardware were the same as the Z10's..?
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In this new golden era of mobile computing for BlackBerry, yet another ridiculous, short-sighted bit of planning. Wonder what's next
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What's next, let me guess... mobile computing is only a gimmicky catch phrase to keep ppl thinking about the POSSIBILITY of what BlackBerry SHOULD be.
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Very disappointing indeed. Hopefully there is a 4.2" Z11 or Z10.5 planed with support for these new features, also with LTE max.
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Not sure I'd trust them to get that right..."fool me once...."
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This is just BS, I love BlackBerry and my Z10 but this just simply unacceptable. This is a feature that should have been in the phone from release and months later they are telling us it simply cannot work because they don't plan accordingly.
They only way this would be acceptable is if they are going offer a hardware update, one that would replace my hardware with a new one free or even for a small fee.
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Yea.. that's not gonna happen.
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IF and by the time miracast becomes the standard and is widely used. You'll have upgraded to a z30 anyway.
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I can't even get DLNA to work right on my PS3, so I doubt it supports Miracast. Therefore while I don't like hearing I won't be able to do something, I don't think I would be using this technology any time soon due to lack of Miracast targets. :)
Use dlna! Or plug in that micro hdmi cable.
Or buy a z30!
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The DLNA Support in the Z10 sucks too! Locks and freezes up when I try to have it communicate with my Sony BR player. And as for cables, I don't think that is part of the mobile computing vision!
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Correction your wifi sucks. It's not the Z10's capability, it's your wireless network at home.
Buy Cables ? L MA O
Hey why not throw out the LCD , LED , and new tech and just go back to TUBE Tv's ?
Come on , we are talking wireless solution here.
How the h3ll do you think you get any of those things to work!?! CABLES!!
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Ok I guess it's important to some people... I got cable and an xbox360 for entertainment. I really don't need Miracast.
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Well, that's pretty disappointing.
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Not really, Miracast sucks anyway.
Really? I thought that miracast was part of Blackberrys mobile computing vision of having the phone as all of the power and a larger screen that would just display a larger version of what was on the phone screen - kind of like an answer to the tablet. Correct me if I'm wrong! Maybe wi-fi direct answers this???
Micro HDMI will still be an option for connecting to TVs/monitors.
HDMI for video and Bluetooth for keyboard/mouse can do this.
WiFi Direct just lets you connect device to device without a hub / router. It doesn't replace the functionality of Miracast at all.
It doesn't suck. It is very useful. If your experience with it is limited to the Q10, you can't make that determination.
Where did I ever state it was limited to the Q10? I didn't.
I dunno. I bought a Miracast dongle and use it with my Wife's Nexus 4. There are no issues. 1000X better than Chromecast.
I have several Miracast capable devices kicking around my house and the experience has never really been the best. It always requires extra messing around and even then, it's never as easy as something like say.. AirPlay, Chromecast.
The only thing I don;t like about Miracast is that it uses compression and softens the picture a bit. I have never had any problem connecting. I would not rule out that there may be firmware issues on earlier devices.
He doesn't seem to be the only one having problems with Miracast: http://www.heise.de/video/artikel/Miracast-Kreuztest-sieben-gegen-sieben...
It's in German, but you can see the issues they have on the TV.
Miracast is a relatively new standard. Some devices will be better than others. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
They're not the same thing, at all: what I read about Chromecast isn't that it somehow renders whatever you're looking at on your mobile device on screen... it accepts a command from your mobile device to display on your screen the same streaming content that you had been streaming on your mobile device. That is, if you're playing angry birds and want to see it on the big screen, you can't send the image of your screen to Chromecast, but you might be able to get Angry Birds to launch and play on there, but that's not the same. Did I miss a memo?
Lol lawguyman, you're forgetting that this is Bla1ze you're talking to, amongst the CB editors he's arguably got the biggest footprint when it comes to mobile devices. Follow him on Twitter and you'll see just about the same number of tweets promoting Android Central articles as there are for CB ones.
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I know. I have had a different experience than Bla1ze has had. I've got three different Miracast dongles. I just bought one this week (on sale at Best Buy)! All work well,. I'll make a video if anyone is interested.
Yep, would like to see the video, please.
Now there's no need to replace my TV with one that supports Miracast.
When I bought my Z10, I did not even think of Miracast. It's only now that there's talk that it won't be available that I now know what it is and am a bit disappointed even though I don't have any devices that would support it anyway lol. I'm sure others are in the same boat.
What are the hardware limitations?
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http://forums.crackberry.com/news-rumors-f40/z-10-miracast-no-way-they-would-have-837858/
Thank you!
I knew my Z had a qualcomm processor - I thought they were always paired with broadcom chips.
TI chips in the Z... what was that? price cutting?
Rather sad.
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Not great news, but if they build a follow-up device within a year, like a Z10.2, it will be ok.
The follow up is the next in the Z series - the Z30.
No?
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