Out of all the BlackBerry 'Venice' slider leaks thus far, none have really given us a full look at the keyboard on the upcoming device and that, of course, has left some folks skeptical of everything we've seen recently. Looking to end some of those doubts, @evleaks, has now posted up a follow-up to the first leaked render of the device that clearly shows off that glorious BlackBerry keyboard.
In case there was any doubt... pic.twitter.com/yfFfyqEg5v
— Evan Blass (@evleaks) August 19, 2015There's not really much to be said about the keyboard itself, expect perhaps, it really reminds me of the keyboard found on the BlackBerry Torch series way back in the day minus the signature keyboard 'smile' and frets found on some BlackBerry smartphones. As it's only a render, seeing the real deal would be sweet right about now.
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Leaked render shows off the BlackBerry 'Venice' slider keyboard
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I love it, I can't wait to start using it
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Regarding the Venice slider with "Productivity Enhancements": (0) want BB10 / Z30 - like OS, NOT Android-like; (1) mechanical integrity - if it moves and has mass, it will be suspect - I would need to hold one in my hot little hand to consider, a downer for BB; (2) will NOT consider without Verizon compatible, plain white leather folding case with credit card slots - period, full stop - a deal breaker for me; sick and tired of cases as afterthoughts; (3) MUST have wireless charging like present Verizon / Z30 combo; (4) must have full Z30-like virtual KYBD that can work in both horizontal and vertical orientations independent of the slider. Doc Neutron
Get that Android bull sh** off there! Big mistake if that happens! BB10 all the way!
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Ok....now THAT is a slider! Love it!
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What the fuck is this pos OS
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This! Is my next phone!
ZeeTen goodness in every tap, peek and swipe.
I've been a staunch Blackberry supporter since 2009 but abandoning BB10 OS and switching to Android is a suicidal move for the company. How will it stand out from any other Android phones on the market? What will happen to the Blackberry Hub (one of the defining features of BB10)? What will happen to the whole pure gesture based thing? How will it be any different to a bloody Samsung Galaxy or HTC or LG or any Android devices? I understand that this will give them a massive boost in the apps department but at the expense of BB's own identity and what it stands for? BB VENICE WILL CRASH AND BURN TO THE GROUND IF IS AN ANDROID PHONE IN A BB SHELL.
I can't care less about what others think but in my opinion BB has the best OS out there but I will switch to Windows/Lumia faster than Gareth Bale can sprint down that left flank if they turn it into another Android device. Its like putting the Mercedes 3 pointed star logo on a BYD then try to sell it as a Merc.
The success of slider will depend on the price tag and camera quality.
I hope they release a non slider. :)
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Does android have a Hub? Asking for a friend.
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A 4 rows keyboard. Good Good!
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My favorite form factor (slider) is back!!! I've always loved sliders!
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What's the dollar key there for? If it was left out, as well as extra shift key below it, and symbol key moved to the left, there would be enough space to have four dedicated arrow keys. And that would really be awesome!
Btw, I'm a big fan of Xperia Mini Pro hardware keyboard. It's a really lovely device (except for tiny internal storage). It's kind of sad they don't make such things these days.
I have the new Silver Passport and that keyboard rocks! This one reminds me of the classic and I tried it at the Verizon store and didn't like it so much.
I'm not a fan of Android whether blackberry secured or modified BlackBerry is in my blood. I'm sticking with BlackBerry as long as it meets my style, needs and works fine for me.
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Blackdroid ! Lol Interesting
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Classic Owner and I love it.
Seriously..... It looks good, but Android makes me cringe. If John Chen were to offer it in either BB10..3.2.xxxx and Android X.x, then I would definitely be interested. But make sure he gets away from the chipset he used on the Q10 and Classic and goes with the Chipset he used on the Passport. Like this:
OS BlackBerry OS 10.3.2
Chipset Qualcomm MSM8974AA Snapdragon 801
CPU Quad-core 2.26 GHz Krait 400
GPU Adreno 330
Card slot microSD, up to 128 GB
Internal 32 GB, 3 GB RAM
Camera:
Primary 13 MP, 4128 x 3096 pixels, autofocus, optical image stabilization, LED flash, check quality
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, HDR, panorama
Video 1080p@60fps
Secondary 2 MP, 720p or even a 3 MP with face recognition, etc.
With a kick -A** Battery say 3500 mAh or better....
Also with an Aluminum frame. Not plastic all the way through..... too fragile
John wants to serve the majority ..... Understood !! . But it has to be as good or better than the competitors if He wants to appease the majority that RIM isn't going to slouch in this market. Also whats needed to compete is an App that is native to BB that does Voice to Text via BB assistant, in the Hub as a default option. [ FYI, .... Jabra headsets work quite well with the BB assistant ].
If the Slider is on the way.... OtterBox Engineers and others, are going to have a hay-day with this one :)
Yeah, 3GB of RAM and 32GB of internal storage are kind of must! And the bigger battery the better, of course! :-)
Funny how I see no BlackBerry apps at all. It looks to be completely android which sucks. I know BlackBerry World etc. not doing so hot, but damn why eliminate them all together on a render. There is a particular phone I want from BlackBerry if I have to give up my Z10 and it not for Android, sorry......
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Grain of salt... big one. It's only a render.
Typed using my BlackBerry Classic running 10.3.2 on WINDmobile HSPA+
I find it hard to believe it running Android and that BlackBerry have managed to secure it enough. I think they have just made it look and act like android..
Passport. The world's best phone. Try one.
This!! Right on! I think it's the actual runtime running right on top of QNX. Not a single d oubt past that one.
Typed using my BlackBerry Classic running 10.3.2 on WINDmobile HSPA+
Lots of people assume everything, but once the device is reviewed and in their hands, we will see. Personally I don't care what it looks like, or what it does. A BlackBerry is a BlackBerry, and it likely runs the ANDROID RUNTIME ON TOP OF QNX, not as it is.
Typed using my BlackBerry Classic running 10.3.2 on WINDmobile HSPA+
After watching bunch of Chen's interviews, I don't see how or why would BB go the route of the least secure OS.
I think some fool started a BB running Android on Venice and it caught like a flu. Venice with Android is NOT happening.
Also, I need a new all touch BB10 device, even if it has a hidden keyboard.
Okay I have just one question....
If this is supposedly an android OS phone only...
Why would they go through all the extra work to make a prototype of the device run BB10 and WMC when they teased it? There is no ifs, ands, or buts about the fact those phones, the white and black, were running BB10 and all of these renders look like total BS with the lack of blackberry apps on the home screen. These leaks don't even look like "leaks" they just look like renders. There was that one picture that showed the keyboard and the screen was on and it had an android esque keyboard but that's not to say the BB10 version is nonexistent. Chen would have to be a complete moron to jump ship on BB10 to android on a phone like this without putting out both variations to test what the people really want. I say use android to peak their interest so they'll check it out, but shove the BB10 version down their throat as their doing that so they'll see how much superior the OS is. Plus, this phone will need to have monster specs running Android to not be laggy, but if you could make a slightly less spec heavy BB10 version (because tbh it could still possibly run faster and better than android with less specs since BB10 slays) and price it cheaper people will definitely pick it over the android version then boom you just tricked the market into buying your BB10 slider just by allowing it to stand beside an android variant and let the OS speak for itself.
(don't ask why I'm not running BlackBerry, I'm only 16 so it's not an option sadly)
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Right now, no remorse for getting a Z30. But I guess it will be a wait and see on the slider.
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I'm really hoping that render is faithful to what the home screen will be looking like, I'd much prefer stock Android with lots of BlackBerry apps and the security of a BlackBerry of course we all have our own needs wants and opinions that one is mine.
I really hope it's all a misunderstanding and the " venice" won't be an Android phone because I really want this phone. I would never buy an Android as long as BlackBerry is still alive and making phones. I will stick with my Z30
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Specs on camera matters a lot. Go high quality just once BlackBerry. Look at the camera on the LG G4. See how the lens moves?
Slap a track pad and physical keys like the Torch in that bitch
Make it blue. Don't screw over your early adopters like usual. Get the colors out at launch.
Z10STL100-3 /10.3.1.2576 / T-Mobile USA
Posting renders as front page news is not serious.
I want....to hold it...first. And like others say, BB10 interface will be missed.
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I hope it doesn't come with Android on it :( such a shame that BlackBerry feels the need to make devices with Android simply to make sales
Wow , wonder why you chose the Android OS, and not show the BB10 OS photo?
http://mobilephonecollection.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/BB-Veni...
Many many photos of it with the BB10 OS if you use the search "BlackBerry STV-100"
I know some users will absolutely love this piece of art, but the Silver Edition Passport is hands down the best buy.
Posted Via CA Governor's BlackBerry Passport.
Is BlackBerry going to release this also with BB10 OS?
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Nice keyboard, but confirmation would be nice.
I just want a high spec z10 with a great camera. I worry that it will be far too big but i'll have to hold it. Wouuldn't it be cool if the keyboard was also touch sensitive like the passport?
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Sorry, but you lost at Android.
Wow. Look at all of the Google Apps on that phone. Why do people use Google when they track everything you do? I bet there's built in back doors too.
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The device looks nice but before buying it I will definitely need to touch a real one. I think that it might be difficult to handle it with the PKB out, looks like it will be way too long...
Many people complain about the OS, they claim that android and IOS are not very stable, secure etc
Frankly after using all OS except windows, I find all of them very similar with more or less the same functionality.
For me BlackBerry is the hub, the easy way to share and attach things to messages, the security and of course the PKB.
If all these can be included within the android OS ,I don't care, for me will be my new beloved BlackBerry!
Sent from my BlackBerry Passport
BlackBerry seem to have come to the conclusion that people don't value their security just as much as they used to.
People want apps! It might not be right for that to be your first thought when looking at a device that carries TONS of your personal data, but people are strange creatures.
If BlackBerry continue the BB10 path it is, very sadly, destined to fail.
They are making ground in EVERY OTHER AREA but this one.
If they can secure Android, even if it's not quite on par with BlackBerry's own level, then that, coupled with a few of the favourite features of BB10, it will sell.
My very first reaction to this was nothing but negative but I'm coming around to the fact that I'd rather see BlackBerry succeed, and know that I was one of the loyal few throughout, than leave the handset business all together.
Just my humble opinion.
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Blackberry android is stil a blackberry. I'll buy it, can't wait.
As usual most people are jumping to conclusions based on unsubstantiated rumours and renderings of unknown origin.
I have a two year old Z10 which is due for replacement and my preferred choice for a replacement is a Passport Silver Edition, but I'll wait for the launch of the slider before I finally decide. If it is available as Android only, I'll go with the Passport. If it is available with either Android or BB10 I'll go with the slider with BB10.
There's no point assuming anything; just wait and see how it goes.
Posted on my Z10. Still going strong 2 years later.
I hope that the Android uses QNX in some way... and yeah first choice is always BB10..
Android makes everything so complicated and its very heavy... makes top of the line hardware crawl sometimes...
My z30 with old hardware is running BB10 fantastic!
Posted via my z30/10.3.2.840
Far to small keys after a passport :)
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If verizon gets this I'll look at it, but I'm really in no hurry to replace my z30. I. Not at all fond of the idea that it will likely run android. If they can get the hub and the bb10 flow to work, and the keyboards work like BlackBerry, not android, then that's a plus. Then you have all the Google spying that is a huge negative. I really don't get people's obsession with all the apps. Maybe it's because I don't need many but it doesn't seem like that bug a deal to me personally
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If it's running Android this might turn out to be the best selling phone BlackBerry will have released in years. The reason being you won't have to compromise on anything; not on apps, not on screen ratio and most of all not on the keyboard. Plus if they bring in the hub and BlackBerry blend this will sell like hot cakes. There is certainly lots of people who like BlackBerry's keyboard but are unwilling to settle for anything less then android and Ios due to the developer support on those platforms.
•The great BERRY will rise in the west, then be re-born in the east •
Yup.
All Hail Thorsten. Mother and Father of my Beloved Z10.
Will BlackBerry continue updating BB10 after this?
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Well, looks like we're seeing the end of Crackberry.com
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For enterprise and government most likely, but consumer specific features being added seems unlikely because BB10 just doesn't pay unless your a large company buying in the hundreds or thousands and are managing them with BES
•The great BERRY will rise in the west, then be re-born in the east •
Why not slider with BlackBerry 10 OS #disappointed
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Will it have fingerprint sensor? :) not a fan of a physical keyboard but if it's nice unopened than I may think about this phone :)
BTW BlackBerry virtual keyboard is the best!!!
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BlackBerry needs to get ahead of this guy now and release all the details, the road map and availability. And best do it before all the hype is on the completely overrated iPhone updates and the carriers blow their load on iPhone promos. Timing, as it has been, is critical. And perhaps a marketing campaign for this and other devices??
Z10 on 10.3.2
I like it, except I will NOT!!!!! Be getting it, if it actually turns out to be android!!! I don't want a Samsung, it sucks!!!
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One or other: or this guy has really good sources or he has plenty of time to waste on photoshop.
Posted with Z30!
Specs don't really matter with BB10 as it is a pretty incredible OS but android needs high specs to perform well, this could make the Venice very expensive or if they try to keep the cost down, very laggy! Android needs a very different beast to BlackBerry so i hope they haven't taken the next BlackBerry handset and decided to put android on it instead of BB10! I have nothing against BlackBerry making an android handset but they shouldn't call it a blackberry, market it as by BlackBerry but it is NOT a BlackBerry! The whole scenario worries me, i know BlackBerry sales have not been good but with BB10 they have a fantastic product that just needs to be shown off so the masses can see BlackBerry are still world leaders in mobile communications contrary to the rumours spread by low grade and unprofessional media reporters.
My lubbly jubbly Z10. Shine on you crazy BlackBerry
When this comes out, I'd love to see a CrackBerry review, an Android Central review from Phil or Jerry, then a podcast where ya'll compare your experiences/viewpoint having come from a different background.
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Even if it comes with Android OS, would it be possible to download BB10 OS?
That way Android OS would appeal to the general consumer who prefer the APPs and Google play. People who prefer BB10 can download the OS afterwards. It's only software. We download upgrades all the time.
Chen said he wouldn't release and Android unless he could secure it. If you can change the OS, modify it in some way etc, he didn't do a good job of securing it.
Why Android? Lord Why?
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$$$$$$$$
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Or, rather, not losing more $$$. Those investors have children to feed you know (choking on my own vomit lol).
All Hail Thorsten. Mother and Father of my Beloved Z10.
I hope the physical keyboard has a fourth row like the Q10.
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I love the curved display
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That keyboard does not remind me of the iconic BlackBerry keyboard.
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Thinking about it, I don't see myself ever using the keys when BlackBerry has such a great virtual keyboard. The only physical keyboard BB I've owned was a Pearl 8130 so maybe I'd feel different about this one though. I could use some more horsepower and memory than my Z10 has, as long as they keep the removable battery and external microSD. And not bigger than the Z10.
How the heck are they going to build a good case for that phone??
I clicked this on my Passport.
Wasn't it the same for the torch
•The great BERRY will rise in the west, then be re-born in the east •
To all the people who are going to jump ship when this phone is realeased... good, be done with you! You never cared for BlackBerry anyway.
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Well if they are like me and use BlackBerry because it's NOT android then what's the point? Your comment had lingering residue of illogical butt hurt. I'll look at it but I'm not happy about it. I prefer bb10. However if they can make it flow like BlackBerry 10 and the reviews are good and I have no choice, I may go with a slider when my z30 dies
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Silly
All Hail Thorsten. Mother and Father of my Beloved Z10.
Sorry, wrong post! Oops! Not silly at all.
All Hail Thorsten. Mother and Father of my Beloved Z10.
Too early to talk about the price...right??
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If you ask the price, you can't afford it! Lol
All Hail Thorsten. Mother and Father of my Beloved Z10.
Also, is it capacitive ?
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Yes the screen is.
Snicker......
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Definitely a US done with the $ on the physical layout !! The chin will not slide adding to the un-slid length but likely protects the lower screen edge ??
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Blackberry flavor lollipop. Anyone?
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Great but no laggy java android scum pls
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It's not a blackberry.
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Wow...ugly!
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It's like trying to become minor player in Android market from unique player in their own strength niche to get few more sales.. I don't think it will compete with Samsung (per spec) or Google (better SW support). How are they going to justify move? Essentially discrediting their claim (most secure thing) voluntarily? Or call it Android is secure enough?
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Or it states that security is not in demand all over the world.
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One word.....keyboard.
That is how it will differ
•The great BERRY will rise in the west, then be re-born in the east •
'unique player in their own strength'=1% market share death.
All Hail Thorsten. Mother and Father of my Beloved Z10.
Having a Passport, I quite like the onscreen keyboard for numbers/punctuation etc, instead of on the actual keys as shown here like Classic. With all that screen real estate I would think the partial onscreen "virtual" keyboard like the Passport would be a better option.
I try to use my wife's Classic and have trouble adjusting to using the "alt" key for secondary functions after the ease and bigger keys on the Passport,
I will wait until I hear more about this BlackBerry customized Android OS before making any judgement. At WMC earlier this year, BlackBerry announced BlackBerry Experience, whith the idea to bring the security and productivity features of BlackBerry to other OS. I'm guessing the Venice will have that pre-installed. I'm also pretty sure BlackBerry will continue to make BB10 phones for the enterprise customers in regulated industries and in government who can't compromise on security. So this might not be the end of BB10. If BlackBerry can keep developing BB10 to a targeted audience of its core-users (including CrackBerrians) while expanding its customer base with customized Android phones that are more secure and more productive than the Android competition, then why not?
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Bland and ugly, still not even 25% as sexy as the Torch! Why can't they just do a bigger version of the Torch! Dual curved edges is just a fading gimmick already and talk about niche, dual edge curved screens are selling that many phones!
If it don't run Cyanogenmod then it's a no go. Android have always the worst kind of sometime updates.
Even if it's a Blackberry...then this is the worst blackberry ever.
Posted via Blackberry Passport - 10.3.2.2339
I don't buy BlackBerry's for their name to be slapped on an Android OS powered slab. However, I have always appreciated their hardware and would be more supportive if they have found a way to secure Android end-to-end. I would also support it more with a BB10 gesture-like skin. It isn't impossible considering Flyme OS exists and features gesture based operation. I can't see why they would put stock Android on the device without a significant amount of customization to make it a BlackBerry and the non-existence of BB apps in the in render tell me that it is a fake. No BBM on the home screen = LIES
Well better a BlackBerry device with an android/bb10 mix then an iPhone or any other android device if BlackBerry is going for their android version.....
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Not a fan...too long with keyboard out..looks top heavy and awkward
Picture is flawed....looks nothing like a blackberry keyboard would in comparison to Passport and other models. Also....no showing off of BBM on the screen. I'm calling BS.
Flying Spaghetti Monster. SQW-100-4. 10.3.2.2226
Saying that this and previous pics are "leaked" renders suggests that they are official/actual company renders. Are they? And how would one know this to be true? Or, are they simply released renders from who knows who/where?
Most likely posted via CB10 from my amazing Z30, but may have been posted from my awesome PlayBook.
There is nothing official about it.
Flying Spaghetti Monster. SQW-100-4. 10.3.2.2226
Thumbs up!
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Hate it! Want a flagship full touch!
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It's a flagship full touch if you don't open the keyboard. Since when did having more functionality become detrimental?
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Breaking my heart with those android icons. Want bb10
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So, we are absolutely POSITIVE that this image is from BlackBerry? Not some fan-made render, however accurate it might be?
Again, there are absolutely NO BB app icons on the screen, so how is it believable that this is a "leak"??
We all know you can get BBM on Android so why would it be such a mystery as to why its missing from the home screen?
Why not put it on the homescreen it's a blackberry BBM should be preinstalled, especially because there's going to have to be a place for it in the hub and all hub apps are preinstalled. You shouldn't have to go out of your way to get a blackberry app, on a blackberry.
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You are arguing about a RENDER.
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Except for the Android aspect, it look pretty good.
Tim Smith from my Z10 on Rogers
As far as I know there hasn't been any confirmation from BlackBerry that this device will be running Android. But if it does I hope there is an option to either get it with Android or BB10. If not guess I'll "upgrade" from the Q10 to the Classic.
This is going to be an iconic BlackBerry in the future; however, I love the BB10 over anything Android.
Android on a BB device?...worth NOT buying.
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Seriously you're right. I don't know why BB is coming up with the Android; They are going loose many BB fans from this...
And maybe even gain A LOT more Android fans who want Android apps AND a good keyboard.
And continuing on via the BB10 route is going to keep them in business?
Sweet!
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Any chance they have this device in 2 flavours? BB10 only and the Android/BB10 mashup?
It's not going to sell much with no marketing.
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That Device is for me, but with BB10 and Google Services (just only for use google maps app because not have bb maps in my country)
Hey look it's a Leap with a dick! By which I mean a retractable physical keyboard! And the stuff of nightmares...running Retardroid...instead of BB10...
Cartman says: Screw you guys I'm going home!
looks good
Why do you have to make it an Android????? Starting to lose my love for BlackBerry
The keyboard on that render looks like it would be terrible to type on. In my opinion it doesn't resemble the "classic" Blackberry keyboard by any stretch of the imagination.
The curved display doesn't bother me so much, but it would be foolish to have them and not utilize them to the same degree as Samsung has on their "edge" devices.
Lastly, I'm torn on the Android "thing." I would definitely prefer OS10 but I can certainly see the upside potential for Blackberry (financially speaking) in making the switch to Android. As the render appears to suggest it is a pure Android device it'll likely be a pass for me unless it is utilizing Secusmart technology.
Unless it also comes with BB10, then I won't be getting it. The farther I am from Google the better.
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We still on. This android bullshit, ,, these are not actual photos, ,just. Somebody playing around, I HATE ANDROID, BULLSHIT OS,, BB10 IS THE FUTURE AND THE BEST
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Just lie down right here and let's talk about what makes you feel this way...
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I don't like curved screens, but having the physical keyboard should make it good. Hope the keyboard will be touch sensitive, that would be nice.
problem with slider phones, is finding a nice case.
I'm torn between having Android on a BlackBerry or not, some things I really like about my BlackBerry, such as its video background ability, the copy and paste of phone numbers, where I get an option to call or text
Lol...I need a full touch screen BlackBerry phone. Not a slide keypad phone.
Z10/STL100-2. OS2339
????
Did you even hear yourself?
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So when this phone is released does Bla1ze get traded to Android Central for some draft picks or a player to be named later?
Cannot wait for this phone. Gorgeous
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Where is the track pad while in pkb mode? I don't want to have to leave the keyboard to do gesture. Especially selecting text.
Give me an updated 9810 is what I'm saying.
Z10STL100-3 /10.3.1.2576 / T-Mobile USA
I'm getting this device.
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Analdroid
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Here's to wishful thinking for a BB10 variant. The hardware and specs advertised are awesome. Don't want a BlackBerry "Edge".
Posted from my Passport.
How much will it weigh?
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Never had the HUB freeze once
Posted via BlackBerry Z30
Me neither. Hub excellent.
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This might just make me come back to Blackberry. Left after the Storm 2 I think or maybe the Torch. Really haven't missed anything other than the keyboards. My old Bold had the best keyboard of all time.
As for all of you crying about BBOS10, they have to leave their own OS in the dust. Both the consumer and corporate markets have realized they don't need or want BBOS. BB will never able to reverse that problem.
Another stupid statement. BB10 and BES 12 together, is the most secure full meal deal. End to end, period. Another comment from someone who doesn't understand security and enterprise / government needs.
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Think this design is good and bad, the phone is tall and gonna be hard to hold while using that keyboard, hope the lip between the screen and top row isn't to deep because be hard to type if got big fingers, also android? Bb10 is awesome but after using it on three different BlackBerry devices it isn't the best, hub freezes, a lot of apps takes forever to open while my buddies old Galaxy instantly opens them
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This Android joke is tiresome. If it succeeds, BlackBerry disappears into the plethora of Android phone manufacturers out there. If it fails, it demonstrates weakness and lack of commitment on the part of BlackBerry. Politics is alive and well in the tech sector as much as anywhere. It won't look good on them either way.
I'd love to see a next level Android runtime, but I'm not willing to part with BB10 over it.
Posted via CB10 on PassportSQW100-1/10.3.2.2339
Will it have a mirror in the back, when slider is open?
Like the burried Pre from palm or HP
webOS R.I.P
Today I am going to take a PP in my hands first time :)
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Don't do this! Android no! Believe everyone who denies Android...
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Still not official, right? Then for me it's still bullcrap.
Z10STL100-4/10.3.2.2339 on XL Network
Nice looking render. Hopefully the keyboard tactile feels like the Q10's. I find the passpot's keyboard a bit harder to press.
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A lot of Android hate here and I get it. I love my BlackBerry 10.
That said - the hardware division has to make money and it's not making money with the Leap/Passport/Classic. There just aren't enough BB10 buyers. Chen is trying something that may breath life into hardware, an innovative Android phone with the best of BlackBerry built in. Personally I applaud the out of the box thinking.
Will I buy one? - we shall see. As much as I love BB10 I also know it may not survive long term. Support is dropping from app developers. I have to be open minded to change or i'd still may be using my TRS-80 PC and carrying around a Palm Pilot.
Posted via BlackBerry Z30
Okay however, the options of Passport (an unconventional phone for most), classic (a phone for people who miss keyboards, even though most ppl have already gotten used to touch screens) and leap (stupid name to talk about in social circles first of all you literally sound childish saying "oh I have a leap" and shit specs compared to a phone 2 years older than it i.e. not high end enough to even compete) there aren't any good options for people to try the BB10 experience out on. Especially when visually all the phones they currently sell pale in comparison to apple's iPhone 6 series and Samsung's Galaxy S series, and looks are very important that's how a phone as trash as the iPhone has remained successful. It's fucking gorgeous, imo my white Z30 with the black carbon fibre weave back is nicer but still, 2 year old phone. Chen didn't give blackberry 10 a chance to be great on a legitimate high end phone with all the fixings hardware wise that also looked good.
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I don't care what OS it runs as long as BlackBerry finds a way to give me the hub.
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I agree with an earlier comment by Inichols . If there's nothing about a bb10 version send this crap to Android central.
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We'll be hearing a lot about the BlackBerry Android on CrackBerry come November.
And Birdman with it..
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Lol
And what's the sd card situation? Probabky hasn't got one judging by where high end Android devices are going
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High-end Android devices are dropping the SD card slot because SD cards are becoming less and less useful on Android. Look at BB10 devices! Slap a 128GB SD card into a Z30 and then marvel at how amazing it is to run out of space for apps and games after installing only 10 to 14GB worth of stuff. How useful is that huge SD card now?
The latest versions of Android treat the SD Card as a place for media only. Apps can't even write to SD cards anymore unless you modify how it works.
The big problem I have with SD card slots is that they give manufactures an excuse to not put more internal memory into their phones. How long has 16GB of internal storage been the norm?
I have two Android devices that demonstrate this problem very well. One is the Nvidia Shield a video game console, which only has 16GB of space for actual games, yet has a SD Card slot for all of the music, videos and photos I could ever need. And a OnePlus One, which doesn't have a SD Card, but does have 64GB of internal storage that can be used for anything I please. My OnePlus One has more apps and games on it that the video game console does. Crazy
Which of the two do you think is better if you can only have either or?
SD cards are good for storing photos, videos, and music. If those are on the card, there's more room for apps. Also, if I wipe my device the SD card contents are still intact. That's how I like it. You can buy a good fast SD card at decent sizes for a good price - much cheaper than what manufacturers charge for versions of hardware with larger on-device storage. SD cards also allow you to upgrade the storage later. So I'll take a device with 32 GB on board + 64 GB SD card now, with the possibility of upgrading that SD card to a larger size later.
Love the curve display but honestly disappointed that there isn't any news or recent renders of a BlackBerry 10 slider
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That's because it might not ship with BB10.
Going to Android just might keep me on BlackBerry. Like my Passport but hate the fact I can't establish a workable cross device ecosystem to easily sync Outlook calendar and contacts. BlackBerry link sucks for this...
Via the Passport. http:// twitter.com/ForrestBivens
Link is a joke. Always has been.
Android? No thanks. There better be a bb10 version before I even remotely consider it.
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My friend's Samsung broke down 5 times in 2014 and twice this year, so if the Venice doesn't have a BB10 option, I'll go for a Passport when my trusty Z10 eventually goes to mobile heaven.
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What do your friend's device failures have anything to do with the fact it's running Android?
That kind of crap amazes me. Someone gets a lemon and it means everything Android will break.
Pretzel logic.
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I had 10+ bad Passports since launch. Is every Passport bad?
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This model would be better with BlackBerry 10
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But the question is... If it is a BlackBerry render for a BlackBerry phone then where is the BlackBerry apps? Like BBM for example... It's not like the apps aren't available for Android. So why is there no apps from BlackBerry in that render?
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Good point.....
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I look at this and see the same thing. Where is the BB in this phone other than the logo. Looking at the screen it looks like simply a Google sandbox running on BB10. No I don't see anything stating that or have any links. It is simply a thought. What if this is simply Google running inside of BB10. Something like an Android mode or VM running on BB10. I can go for something like this, if this is the case. I want a BB10 phone. I will buy this if it is running BB10. If it is only available in Android, then I will most likely pass. I've been looking forward to this phone being released.
It might be! But the thing about this leak is that that photo was on crackberry weeks ago.
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Because we all know you can get BBM for Android maybe?
I don't care if it's running Android as like as its still has the hub and email success that BlackBerry has!!
Please don't come with Android :( BB10 FTW!!!
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Awesome
Read this http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33914826
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Yes. Ifv true, going android is Chen's final nail in BlackBerry 's coffin.
Ruin the only things it had left: security and some semblance of privacy for those who would not use android apps on their BB10 phones.
Both will be gone with a Venice running android.
HTC manufactured the M8 in both Android and Windows variants. The only time the Venice was ever shown in public (for a few seconds admittedly) it appeared to be running BB10 so it would appear that the work has been done to run it on BB10. The specs are sufficient to support Android. Assuming that there is truth to the Android rumours there is no reason for BlackBerry not to release it in both variants. It offers them a chance to expand the pool of potential buyers. Anything that increases their economies of scale in manufacturing is a good thing. It would also allow them to determine what path they should take in the future based on the popularity of the two versions.
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Yes. That is why I wrote "if". If they put out both bb10 and android versions, everyone will be happy.
I have read the slider will be presented at the IFA in Berlin next month. I will be there and would like to see this device. But I cannot find Blackberry on the exhibitor-list (and not on the product-list). Has anybody a hint where i should look? Thank you for your help.
Not a single BlackBerry App shown on the screen. At least put a BBM icon on it. This device shouldn't be covered here, should be over at Android Central.
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For a guy who has been such a vocal critic of BlackBerry, it's surprising you don't support them in their quest for hardware relevance.
Their irrelevance has nothing to do with BB10, and Android won't solve the problem. Look at HTC, Sony, and other Android players. You think BlackBerry with their awesome advertising and marketing department will be able to change BlackBerry's image from the spinning clocks and battery pulls of BBOS to something else with just an OS swap? They didn't invest in brand rehab with BB10 and they won't with Android either because as everyone here says: they don't have the resources. I'm critical of a company that gave BB10 only 9 months, when released in a beta state, before stagnating development and putting this clown Chen in charge. I'm sure they will do well with all the Chinese Android players driving Android ASP down to below BB10 levels.
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I agree with everything you said except your comment about Chen. IMO, BB10 handsets aren't the problem.. it is the lack of marketing and the poor brand image. BBRY fixes their brand image and properly markets their devices, buyers will come (in theory) and then developers will hop on board (again, in theory). I think adopting Android is like putting a band aid on a gaping wound and hoping the bleeding will stop.. it likely won't. Everyone that sees my Q10 or my wife's Z10 is like "that is a BlackBerry? Wow.. it looks nice" or "wow, I didn't know they were still around". Adopting Android isn't going to change that perception unless there is a huge marketing push with it... but then why not push your own awesome OS instead?
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They all say "wow" until they want to look up where to eat nearby. Then the app gap becomes apparent, the long winded explanation how you can sideload/download APKs begins, yada, yada, and then the person walks away with a Samsung S#.
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Clown, Chen!?
You just lost any credibility you may have thought you had.
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How's that hardware relevamce working out for HTC and Sony these days?
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Lol. Though I love the looks of it, that was what I was thinking. I was like... Wow no BBM icon front and center? What's up with that?
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I can not wait to buy for my self and daughter.
Even though the slider is what I've been wanting now since the Q10, I think that I will pass on the "Venice" purely on the basis that it is Android. Most likely I will upgrade my Passport to the Silver Edition when the time comes. BUT... if rumours are to be believed (which I hope is true) and there are two versions of the "Venice"... Then I will take the BB10 version of the slider... come on Blackberry... confirm the damn phone!!!
Demobigen (Powered by Blackberry® Passport)
Blaze, time to do a poll on Android vs BB10 on the slider. Will you avoid this phone if it uses Android OS? (that is if it already wasn't done and missed it)
This would be premature at best. Of course, as BlackBerry users/abusers, we all want to see every new handset running BB10. But, just wait and see what happens. If BB10 is so great and it turns out that the market wants it over an Android running BlackBerry, then great. Right now any poll would be lopsided in favor of BB10 over Android. It's just too obvious since every BB user is scared of change or fixated on their favorite OS. Wait to run a poll until after this comes out. Then compare.
the point I was making was how many would not even consider it if it was running android? If it is BB10, I will probably get it, if it is android, I will pass. Just wondering how many others feel the same way.
A poll on a blackberry fan site, asking if they would rather have android or bb10? I can already tell you the results. Then, let's post the same poll on Android Central.
If there's a Verizon variant, I'm getting it and I hope it does well. May not be what I would like to see, however it is what it is.
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I rather use a samsung or Sony device with a BlackBerry OS than a blackberry device with an android OS. Apart from passport, all other BlackBerry device is substandard compare to samsung and Sony high end hardware. The only reason I bought BlackBerry device is bcoz of the brilliant OS.
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overkill. Why hit it with a sledgehammer if a hammer will do? Kind of like having a desktop quad core processor running at 4.5Ghz if all you do is browse the internet and check email. A lesser processor with no noticeable difference yet use less power. Less power, greater battery life. So what in the Samsung Sony line is "above standard", by the way what is standard? My Z30, which is an older device now, can keep up to any of the newer "high end" devices with ease and have twice the battery life. What am I missing? Its just marketing and a numbers game. When you have a 'brilliant OS', it doesn't need "high end" hardware.
Proportions look odd. With the keyboard extended out...the phone is soooo loooong.
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Haven't they learned...this keyboard looks worse than....well it needs to at least be similar to that of the Classic. I wish the passport would have 4 row like Classic...instead of 3 rows.. I need to go try out the Passport to see if I can type on it like I do my Classic....
Jé Be....Here But Gone...
Let's buy it! My next phone after the Z30! Android by BlackBerry.
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The reason we buy blackberry device is bcoz of the BlackBerry OS. If we want to use android, it's better we buy samsung or Sony due to their vast experience in electronic devices.
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Blackberry has been making cell phones before samsung was
I want one. I want to remember what it's like to have a physical keyboard....
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I don't want an android experience like Samsung galaxy devices!!!
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It will maybe a good phone from blackberry as a hardware..butbi hope that software is so!!
I mean I hope the android experience on this slider can come close to the android experience on 1+2 phone?!!
1+2 has the best android experience in the history no doubt from what I experienced!!
I hope android on slider is gonna be as fast and smooth as on 1+2!!
1+2 android experience is like a rocket..i mean it is amazingly fast!!!!!!!!!!
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And just as always, every render comes with the Android UI. I really hope they are not completely leaving BB10 behind.
Anyways, I hope they gear it up with touch sensitive keys. In that way it will be easy to use the word suggestions/predictions while typing (like on the PP). Otherwise you'll have to lift up your fingers over the edge of the screen every time.
As for the curved screen, I leave it in the middle, although I think it could be of great use as a notification bar (e.g. a mini hub but with icons only). Still, it looks a little weird to me (not only here, but also on Samsung's S6).
Is it a new BlackBerry phone or just a new OS for BlackBerry 10, I do love it and I want it cos I want BlackBerry to be better than android
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Bring back the frets!
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Frets forever!
Its a truly glorious machine.. I can't wait for get one.
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This keyboard looks strange to me, added the fact that the BlackBerry services logo isn't shown top up right of the screen and that not any BlackBerry application is presented on the homescreen (i mean BBM at least, as BlackBerry wants to grow up it's user base, it would be totally illogic for a BB smartphone to come out without this app pre-installed and in first page. )
Give me five minutes,à computer with Paint, à screenshot of an iPhone homescreen and i will show you an IOS BlackBerry Venice ! OMG OMG OMG!!!! Lol
Sorry for this guy evleaks, but I'm not convinced by this one, future will tell...
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BlackBerry is going all the way to Android, here is à first look of the next BBOS 10.5 spotted on a Z10 in the link here under.
http://t.co/0rWEPryg7S
The longest part is to find the screenshot lol.
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Don't think il get this either. Wouldn't that keyboard make it top heavy?
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You guys are retarded. There is not a single BlackBerry app icon on the homepage. WebEx instead of BBM Meetings? Give me a break. I could photoshop a more realistic "leak."
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Ahah you are right! This can't be an official leak!
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Enormous point.
Wide vision, from Chile.
Where's the Hub?
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Here's hoping that it's just a swipe away.
It is awesome by photo. Need to hold and touch on it to confirm. Android or BB10? Most important is from BlackBerry. I love the brand.
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I wonder if it will have Google Now and BlackBerry Assistant
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I'll stay with my Passport. Hopefully, this device brings back some former BlackBerry users.
Passport Rocks
No capacitive keyboard. :(
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It is very very difficult for me to digest blackberry phones with android
Shame on you John Chen & your team :(
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Until BlackBerry confirms android I remain sceptical. These are after all renders are they not.? Time will tell. Odds seem to suggest BB10 availability with the slider. Just an install after all for the devout base.
Don Diego endorses the Zed and weilds a Silver.
^ this
Anybody knows how big the screen will be?
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The BlackBerry Venice comes with 5.4-inch QHD and features 64-bit Qualcomm Snapdragon 808 chipset with 1.8GHz hexa-core CPU and 3GB of RAM. Also 16MP rear camera and 5MP front snapper.
The Venice/Slider is looking very nice.
Nevertheless, like Bla1ze says, official images would be nice right about now, especially with all of the leaks.
Btw, when was the last time a BBRY phone received this much attention in terms of leaks and over-all hype!?
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With Android it's done with its privacy. Oh dear.
I don't know if this is going to help BlackBerry in the smartphone space, and how much marketing they are going to put behind it, but interesting that all the main carriers in the US have already confirmed to carry it, which is a step in the right direction, and they believe it will sell, and I'm sure the android part is a key driver of this.
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BlackBerry, if this is it, should sell off their hardware and PKB patents to Samsung for a bag of hockey pucks.
I will have to buy a Passport SE and hang on to it like a hoarder keeping their flared jeans hoping for a retro trend someday.
Shame, I was holding out for the slider but seeing Android and Google on it makes it all too common an cheap.
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Android ahghhh!
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BlackBerry are gonna get this one right.
No frets? That's kind of disappointing...
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I think the keyboard being sunk in like that may be a bit of an issue, overall looks nice though, apart from the OS
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I have been past many places where AT&T phones are on display and I have yet to see any BlackBerry phone on display. Not a one. I seriously doubt this one will be shown on a display where people can actually touch it and walk away with a positive experience.
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I miss my Torch 9800. :( I just don't like Android OS, but if the hub stays and BlackBerry can make it secure, then I might give this a try..
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Would like a 9900 Bold style keyboard. Or a 9800 Torch but roomier.
Like the curved keyboard and frets more than the style shown here
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I like how the keys are tight together like the Passport. I hope that this means that the keyboard will be touch sensitive as well. Regardless of keyboard design they all take adjusting and getting used to. If this device has top end specs I t will definitely be a tempting upgrade. If it has Google Play Services it will be even more enticing. Can't wait to see for real
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I wonder how will BlackBerry address the double typing in this device and other quality defective complaints. The market scope is not all about BlackBerry fans, but for Android fans as well.
I think this is really BlackBerry's last chance on the consumer market, and maybe the hardware market in general. And it's looking good. I think this is a phone that people could actually buy, and not only the folks on CrackBerry.
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They've been saying this is BlackBerry's last chance every time they do something new lol. They aren't going anywhere Guys. Their lifeline does not only rest on the hardware end of the game. Besides they are making their way back slowly just not at the pace and size of Samsung or apple. Windows phone are probably doing worse as their market share is declining rapidly.
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What he said. ^
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Sunshine state flyer that is.
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Andrex Operating System
Goodbye BlackBerry
Hello Apple
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My last bb was in 2012. This might pull me over to android.
I think when you try email and file management choices on iOS, you may start to feel differently. Posted from my Passport while my iPhone 6 Plus sits on the desk waiting for me to finish work so I can play.
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Am I the only one that thinks this keyboard looks a bit too flat for BlackBerry, there are no curves on the edges of the keys and the buttons themselves are on the same level as the surrounding area - this means your finger will have to sink in to press something...
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Only a render apparently.
Posted by Passport, BlackBerry's Beast
The keys looks the same with passport's so maybe this is actually a touch sensitive PKB.
like passport keyboard but the virtual made real pad
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Very nice phone but with blackberry 10 os!!
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It is going to be very interesting to see how much percentage of the BlackBerry feeling will survive and how much Android will transpire. Very steep challenge for BlackBerry as it runs the risk of alienating it's customer base. However judging by the hardware performance BlackBerry doesn't have any choice but to try...
If the launch is around November I presume October will be an interesting month to check Crackberry. :-)
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What customer base? 10 million out of over 1 billion smartphone users worldwide.
Try 30-40 million...
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