Ahead of appearing at Milken Institute Global Conference, BlackBerry CEO John Chen sat down with CNBC's Brian Sullivan to discuss all things BlackBerry. While the interview didn't dig deep into new information but instead focused on a lot of what was covered in BlackBerry's earnings call, there was one item on agenda that is of concern to many and that's BlackBerry hardware.
While it's no revelation to hear John Chen talk of upcoming BlackBerry devices, considering he has noted several times now there would be one or two more devices coming by the end of this year (Remember, Chen often speaks in fiscal years), this time around he sounded more definitive in stating it would be two, and when questioned if there would be any more after that, Chen responded with a very confident sounding 'Absolutely!'
In previous interviews, I was left with the impression that Chen was a little bit shaky on where he stood regarding the number of devices that were going to be released. He always mixed up by saying 'maybe one, maybe two' devices but not this time. As for which devices they'll be, well, as we learned recently, that's open to much speculation but not quite enough facts yet.
In addition to CNBC, John Chen also sat down with Bloomberg to discuss plans for new smartphones and the company's earnings. In the Bloomberg interview, Chen clarified 'end of the year' comments noting he meant the company's fiscal 2017 year, which ends on February 28, 2017.
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John Chen: We have two new phones coming out between now and the end of the year
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Where does one find cobalt? I need snap to load a omron heart monitor?
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Are these 2 BB10 phones or 2 Android phones ?
Make it quick. Soo anxious to see them.
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Two rocking devices. :D
My only hope is that one is a new high end bb10 all touch.
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chen is crazy we nned some new leadership at blackberry someone that really believes in the brand and in BB10 it is so much better than android. Why cant this guy catch a wake up
Priv is not a smart phone. It is an OS that may, nor may not, be associated with a phone.
cf. the movie Tron in which the OS just disabled all interrupts and went off doing its own thing !
Anyone know how to fix the group text issue on the Priv. I miss 75% of group text conversations
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I really hope one of them is a BlackBerry Classic running on Android OS. The only next best option to BlackBerry Classic running on BB10.
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We Should try to make Blackberry great again! The next two phones coming out could be the last time to support bb and get one. No more bb phones? I'm just saying bb has been around for a long time remember the good old cingular days lol. fb twitter utube whatever it takes
I'm ready for upgrade in August I want a priv 2!
Crooked Chen
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I forgot to add chen is a useless piece of excrement for destroying blackberry
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I still say don't believe anything the liar says. Chen is worthless. Chen sucks. Chen is intent on destroying Blackberry. Don't fall for anything chen says.
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Flow Peek and Hub..Blackberry 10!!
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Trolling lol.
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New phones which OS.. Facebook app has been discontinued.. whatsapp is on the brink of being discontinued... What's difference will that make..
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BlackBerry 10 is Dna for BlackBerry!!!
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I love BlackBerry 10
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We gone test 2 new business apps for work and both not working with blackberry 10. I read all these comment including the own I wrote and it's over.
Me and some co-workers with a bb10 device have to move on wihtout bb10 and that is sad. One app is replacing our security card and that one needs android 4.4.x. Or higher and the other one is a business app for our restaurant to get discount or free lunch.
All air talk of Chen about bb10 support, new phones is a riddle about what to be expect and I get since a few months worried that it's over and now it is. I think it's faith but if chen anounce that there will be a android runtime it will renew my faith.
ps I keep my passport and buying maybe a cheap *** small android phone with nfc with the 300 euro support from my company :)
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Mid range device, so easy to buy out the devices.
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Get a phone out in 2 months our announced it at least
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If bb10 is alive I like to see a android runtime update otherwise it's over for bb10. Also the priv is moved away from some big north european store's. So how those this work out in sales and break-even.
My advice still is to get an identical full touchscreen device for both platform and forget qwerty. Also get nice package deals with the phone like accessories and a good second deal with discount for a second device like the leap or discount for the same new device you bought.
Also rename bb10 and change some icons or whatever to make it more exciting and call it bbos11.
It all will get the media excited and hopefully users to like the bb10 leftovers and a big market called android.
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BlackBerry 10 is not alive. Why do you keep thinking otherwise? There will be no Android Runtime update. There may be no update period.
I repeat. Chen sucks.
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I'm excited Mr.Chen, can't hardly wait and see these two devices.
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BB10 still rules!!!
CB10 - Passport
Interesting. I would be interested in a new BB10 upgrade.
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away....
Two more failures that no one will purchase... Great hardware strategy...
No one will even know about them much less purchase them.
Know about what?
Cool, I look forward to that.
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.....NEWSFLASH..... BlackBerry is not Microsoft, Apple or Google and expecting the company to ever reach the scale and revenue of those companies is laughable. Watch the history of IBM or Sybase over the last twenty years and you'll see what a successful trajectory for BlackBerry will resemble if successful. The company also knows that by moving to Android, they would lose a percentage of BB10 users and that's perfectly alright. They never have and never will ever make a profit on BB10 or it's devices. Face it BB10 diehards, we're not a market that's worth going after. Just accept IOS, Android or WP10 depending on which is closer to your liking. It's either move on and evolve or get a feature phone and devolve suckers...
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Why are they so slow? Apple is stumbling, move faster and release three or four sets now!
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Too little, too late. New phones need to be out now, not in 7 months, probably with old specs. No one aside from people on Crack berry associate BlackBerry with Android. The phones will be DOA. BlackBerry sells a few hundred thousand phones, Samsung ships 10M S7's. No one pushes BlackBerry. Telling people that the Priv is available online ( Sunday talk show) at the BlackBerry store, will not sell many phones. Most people buy from their carrier or places like best buy (which display no BlackBerry phones). Soon BlackBerry as a hardware company will cease. Sad, but the iPhone caught it by surprise and it never caught up. High prices, mediocre specs and no marketing.
Z30-STA100-5 (T-Mo)-SR 10.3.2.2836 / OS 10.3.2.2876
He sounds more confident in this interview than in the one after the quarterly report.
It's OK. He'll change his mind again and say something different in a month when he has the first quarter reports and another significant drop in device sales.
Hahahahaha
In now way shape or form can Android be secured like BB10,it goes against Google's philosophy !!!!
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New Android phones are great as long as they use the profit to keep putting out real BlackBerry phones (BB Hardware and OS). Otherwise, I have no use for them.
I am 100% certain 50% of the time that two new devices are coming. Or maybe one...but we will see after we do the numbers on hardware...which are looking really good...but I'm not sure since I haven't actually seen anything, though I feel that they are good you know. I feel good about it. I feel good so you're going to get one more device.
Lmao.
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I'm here all night folks.
*drops mic and walks away*
I hope both new phones have z3/passport quality speakers, paratek antennas, and big batteries. Hopfully not a z30/leap style release repackaged garbage version of the priv.
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People need to get over BB10. It's finished. The staff are gone. Whoever is left are there for maintenance updates only. BlackBerry has transitioned over to work with Google development to reduce costs. People hoping for a BB10 and an Android device are in fantasy land. Do you think the company is doing so well that it has staff to support 2 platforms? Really? Have none of you heard of their layoffs. Move on! I love my Z30 and will use it until it's last breath and then pick up one of their Androids.
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Then it's no getting over on BB10, it's getting over with BB.
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I hope the devices are sensibly prices, not like Priv.
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By the end of the year, that's fine by me.Rome is going to have Android N though
Waiting
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Will they use BlackBerry devices in Disney movies now?
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In my country every BlackBerry is overpriced, I dont understand why leap on contract for 23 euros a month its priced 100 euros, and an lg g3s on same contract its free... are u serious Vodafone????
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Thanks for some clear messages, Mr Chen. Hopefully BlackBerry can deliver. BBOS is a great OS and the physical keyboard still has a place in the world of smartphones. If I can't get a decent phone on BBOS, I would still prefer the BlackBerry overlay on another OS ie Android
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"and when questioned if there would be any more after that, Chen responded with a very confident sounding 'Absolutely!'"
Absolutely what??
'Absolutely right!' Or 'Absolutely NOT!'
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Have always been a fan of Chen. However, whilst he helped stabilize the software side, he now needs to move over.
If Chen was in charge of Apple when they were a nobody company they would have closed down and kept just a few bits.
Like Nokia, too slow and badly advised strategies and products.
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I don't know why people are crying about Priv vs 10 you can be tracked on 10 as well as Priv. Tracking cookies etc Google is a master at and so what you're on a BlackBerry Passport you no longer have any privacy.
It's one thing to track cookies, but the whole OS give google much more opportunities. And don't forget- BB-apps ask for permissions. Same with google?
Google is no alternative. If BlackBerry goes google only i'll never buy this brand again.
And before you ask, next phone will be then a symbian60 with inactive mobile data.
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It's very easy to disallow cookies and or remove them in bB10 browsers. And if you use no android apps, like I do, there is no datamining and no ads if you pay a measly monthly fee for BBM and BBM protected, cheaper than a cup of coffee.
Long Live BlackBerry!!!!!!!!!!!
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So it was said he is not so firm with the hardware side (just remember the Google thing with the PRIV) since he is a software guy, but then he even mixes up the product offerings of QNX. WTF? Or is QNX no software? I am really fed up with this
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Who cares - Android is Google and Google is Skynet
Android is no alternative, so Chen is killing BlackBerry.
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Sadly nothing for me. Waste of resources, I won't spend any money for a expensive Android if I'm able to get better Hardware for less.
Hopefully there will be at one point again a BlackBerry which is worth to spend Money for like the BlackBerry Passport.
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Damit why is blackberry doing things backwards in the phone market strategy?
I agree with the comment that they need a front man and they have to stop tossing twigs at the spokes...uhg I am disappointed.
Done on BlackBerry Classic, Rip Z10
I would think that carrier support is going to be near to zero after the big Priv flop., who would want another two BB bricks in their stores?
Who cares? There both Android.
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Exactly, I'm not at CrackBerry to read about Android. They are anyway blocked on the company network, nothing I would waste Money for.
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Chen actually has nothing to lose. If he brings BlackBerry hardware back to blossom, he is a hero. If not, it's hardware business keeps sinking.
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I think we should petition them to make a CrackBerry edition (a CE, a la SE) of one of them. ;)
I wonder if he knows their names and operating systems and could speak intelligently about them.
I don't know if I can hold out that long...my Z10 is lagging behind the competition, I need more apps to help me produce as much as my competition. Step on it BlackBerry !!!
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You've already installed BlackBullet and ClipMan? What's missing else?
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To me any system + pkb will work, though bb10 is really unique and convenient. I can however think of an apple or Samsung or new Nokia having a keyboard and that device will be also nice. Many people still want BlackBerry less because they like the system than because they like the keyboard.
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Oh GREAT.....by the time Verizon releases it, it'll just be another outdated phone.......hate to say it but I think my time with BB is coming to an end. Still got my Z10 (still love it BTW) but am ready for an update and don't really see anything out there in BB world to update to. The Z30 is just too big for me and If I'm going to go to Android operating system, there are much better phones out there than the PRIV.
Too bad the two new devices are both junk.
Oh? You've used them? Do tell. Smh
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Well for one thing, they're almost certainly going to be running Android...
:-D
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My guess is that Chen renewed some key clients (banks) which is why he seems more confident in implying that there will be more devices to come past the next two later this year.
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In my own opnion, Chen is becoming a sneaky worm. He seems to change his opnion on hardware every couple of weeks. He then hires a VP of hardware with ZERO hardware experience.
I'm trusting him less and less. I can learn more from leaks than Chen. The leaks will be more accurate!
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This
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@khlover520...That's because the old man doesn't know his assss from his elbow,haha
They should lunch these two models:
Passport Silver 2 and Priv 2
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BB10OS with Google Play?!!... I'll buy that in a second!!!
Take my MONEY!!! :) :) :)
I'm MongezaurioBerry
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And unfortunately....they will not be BlackBerry 10 devices :(
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Chen looks more steady and confident than recent interviews. Keep up
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Well Chen has been "shaky" in recent times...as it stands the company under his increasingly putrid, mind-numbing and subpar tutelage and stewardship, BlackBerry looks more and more like one of those adult depends TV ads ...you know it's function but the idea of a dirty, adult diaper is not appealing to anyone...
At the same time, the "moronization" of the BlackBerry consumer, had been astounding to watch...
Besides, none of those two phones will be a BB10 device...so there is little interest here.
BB10--RIP 2013-2016
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Great. Two more phones no one wants.
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Don't be too quick to come to a conclusion!
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"No one"? Wrong.
That you don't want.
Where's all the people at on here who were absolutely confident BlackBerry is done with hardware? Lmao
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They are too busy not eating gulli-BULL.
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It was a great run people but BB10 Device are dead and it so sad because of love my #Q10
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Chen sucks. Enuf said
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Try running a company like blackberry. It's not easy.
Security, organization and fluidity are and have always been BlackBerry's strengths. As long as they keep these key factors employed in their devices they will remain relevant and a quiet threat. If BlackBerry holds true to its most elegant qualities, they will have plenty of loyal users and supporters for a very long time, regardless of the OS they adapt.
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Last quarter financial report doesn't support a single word of what you said!
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You are correct. Reports have not supported what I have stated for a very long time. And your point is?
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There isn't any sign that BlackBerry hardware could revive or be a threat.
Even the majority of the loyal base was migrating to the other Android OEMs and Apple.
BlackBerry's market share is in free fall.
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OK the security is pretty good on Android but what good does it do us to have a phone that needs to stay plugged in?
Android is a blood sucking beast on a battery and if they can overcome that and with mixed use I still have 75% at the end of the day it would be a winner in my book, HTC is about to release one that has a 50% reduction in battery consumption and Chen needs to beat that by 25% or better.
I'm about to return to my Z30 or my Passport if I don't see any improvement in marshmellow.
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Did he say BB10 at all today?
Probably not. It's an Android company now. Smh
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It will take a board of directors action to force Chen to release another BB10 device.
Well since the board wants BB10 to die, I think we're good to go.
BlackBerry Classic non-camera, Cricket Wireless
Well I hope the new phones are going to be small and light maximum size is z30 or iPhone 6.
A better polished android with more BBOS10 goodies on top
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Lmao ahahaahhahaa all this talk and no aggression. You trying to tap into a dedicated market o_O -
First 4 months of the year (Mar/Apr) - Samsung Sx
Next rumors etc - iPhonex
Then - Notex
Then - Nexusx
-----oh sprinkle in windows phone, LG, HTC....... BlackBerry who o_O lmao
Jé Be....Here But Gone...
that would be a nice Christmas present. But knowing BlackBerry we will have to get it in 2017. :-p
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One better be bb10!
Passport. The world's best phone.
One can dream.
*ME173X
So basically one phone will be released, december 2016.
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They REALLY need to work on getting phones out in the summer if they are going to play the android game. It's gonna be a repeat of last year with people complaining about BlackBerry selling Marshmallow phones when "N" has just come out.
BlackBerry Classic non-camera, Cricket Wireless
First phone will be released by September.. With the Note 6 and iPhone 7 launch.
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BlackBerry making its comeback step by step. Have no doubt it! Income will come and further investment will come to go forward with more devices.
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Dreaming much
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It's not dead... :-)
• There's a Crack in the Berry right now... •
Reminds me of a discussion I once heard about a parrot.
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Delusion
He has lost weight.
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Chen needs to save face on his Android investment. Just releasing one phone and giving up would be such a dramatic failure that it is better to make it a prolonged failure. After all they developed their overlay BB software for Android. You can't just toss it out after one device. (You could but that would look really bad.)
If he were smart he would release one BB10 all-touch phone using the Passport's internals. That would immediately sell more than the Priv and at a higher price. Lots of people enjoying BB10 and things such as Blend.
By releasing another BB10 phone, it would help Blackberry sell the rest of its inventory at higher prices because people don't want to buy phones for a dead OS. A new device would quiet this talk about BB10 going away (even if it is).
They keep repeating here on Crackberry. BB10 development is DEAD. Let it go lol
Why don't you let go of telling other people to let it go?
Cuz you won't let it go and refuse to get it and keep complaining and asking for BB10 devices. Sums it up?
I'm going to get blasted for this but BlackBerry has a history of releasing one device and giving up. *cough* z10 *cough* z30 *cough* PlayBook *cough* games app *cough* *cough*
Charging a higher price than the Priv for a new BlackBerry device would also be ridiculous, unless they want to push the last remaining users to iPhones or Samsung or LG. I can already get better phones for cheaper. As much as I want a new BB10 phone I would be hesitant to invest a lot in one based on how I've been treated after lining up for a z10.
I want a new BB10 device with flagship specs (because I know I'll be left with it for at least 3 years) and I'm only willing to pay $599 (Canadian) directly from BlackBerry.
This
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@markmall...Makes sense,+10 :-)
Google Nexus Device made by Blackberry and Windows 10 mobile device with PKB
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Interesting idea. I'd consider a BlackBerry Priv-type phone with a Windows 10 OS as a second choice after BB10. At least Windows has an ecosystem that I feel comfortable with. Google feels like Big Brother to me.
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If I had to abandon BB10, Windows phone would be my next choice.
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It might be wise for Microsoft to consider helping BlackBerry the same way they helped Apple years ago. MS could gain market share with their mobile OS if they could get BlackBerry to switch. It could be a win-win.
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Hopefully not.
I would be a totally win-win case!
But Nexus only provides a pure Android. It's the idea of the device.
No hub, no any other BBRY sweets
We will see If they both will be out before the Xmas rush
He has until Feb 2017. Fiscal years.
In that case the phone will probably be announced April 2017. :(
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His handlers must have twisted his arms.
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I hope they are working with Google to make the Hub integrate even better with Android 7. I'm probably dreaming, but it would be a smart move.
What I don't understand is, why can't people want what they want without someone,who is apparently the "level headed" thinker that comes in and belittles anyone else that doesn't think the way they do? I love BB10 and would like to see more phones with it.. im not delusional and not arrogant and all knowing enough to tell others they are because of their choice. There are so many people doing that these days..i would like to think we at least have the right to like and desire what we want without some trying to convince u otherwise..if BlackBerry produces another BB10 phone..Im there!! And don't give a crap what others say.. too many band wagoners out there!
Most times it is bb users telling others they are dumb or sheep if they use anything other than mighty bb10.
Great news! I love the uniqueness of [he BlackBerry phones! My Priv is awesome. I bought it for the PKB and the apps and it has given me much more, especially with the updates. I am currently running MM. The battery is at 8 percent after 28+ hours. My usage has been normal. I have set the screen so it is not full brightness which helps but I did that before it is definitely giving better battery life.
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p.s. I think they let die the device market in the next 6 month so that they can say the sell nothing anymore ,and that they will be done with mobile :)
Agree 100%
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Major loss of face.
Why not shut shop now and start selling AOL software disks or even real donuts... :-D
• There's a Crack in the Berry right now... •
@whatsever...So throw away 40% of income,he said he wants to increase shareholders value,chop 40% of the stock price today and that leaves BB at about 5$ maybe 4$,lol
Hardware won't be 40% of sales this quarter unless software sales also sink like a rock.
Between now? or end of the year is like before christmas.....
I can not wait that long and hope they updatey Android runtime otherwise I must force myself to get a google device from work because we get two new renewed apps that needed android 4.4.
Also my co-workers using BlackBerry 10 facing the same problem and it's also the end of BlackBerry inside the company where I work, so I hope they update runtime and otherwise we all get a new android device. Or I must work with two devices ,that is not my idea and hope BB10 get a update.
First one, September
Second one, February 2017
Confirmed....
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Yeah, BB10 is the cat's pajamas! There are already a ton of Android clones. Priv is ok, but nothing special hardware wise.
Cobalt could do a "go fund me" and I'd kick in some $ for another port of the libraries if BBRY ever updates it's Android port.
Same.
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Great. Exactly the attitude of a captain. Breed confidence. Best news on BlackBerry for a long time. Keep it going. Consumers need to feel commitment.
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Wow! That's very positive on HW.... that implies they expect to be profitable on the HW side.... soon.
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Priv 2!
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Bad choice, Priv failed. Both on OS choice and price.
Year end....
That's Far away
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February 2017
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He's not talking about Fiscal year end, he's talking about the YEAR 2016. I would assume both will be released at the same time between October through December of 2016.
Gonna look into a Priv with much more confidence now ;-)
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I want a top tier BlackBerry!
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Surely they will be grossly overpriced, as per usual. BlackBerry will never learn, I fear.
Passport SQW100-1 OS 10.3.2.2876
In earlier interviews on Bloomberg TV, the next BB phones will be in the range $300-$400.
They got stung with pricing the Priv too costly, resulting in low sales.
Yes, Priv should've been $400ish at launch. The way blackberry seems to overprice their hardware, they will be releasing a $300-400 phone that's comparable to a $100-200 Moto E or Moto G.
2 New Android BBRY's coming with Classic and Z10 Specs. For $400. That is what I see BlackBerry doing again, and seeing them fail again too.
Unfortunately, yes.
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I'll believe it when I see it lol. Even Bla1ze has said in previous post, that Chen says a lot of things.
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You're insinuating BS10...? ;-D
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Scrap the pkb and do touch only. I bet money that the z30 and z10 sold more than q10 and classic. (coming from a classic, z10, and z30 user) keep the classic and bust out touch only android
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World Wide sales, Z10 and Z30 combined sold over 8 Million devices. And still selling where stock is available. Sure it took a couple years, but what to expect, with No Marketing and No proper support.
Do you have a link?
Z3 and Leap Story told again via Android devices
:(
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@hungaryshark...You're probably right ,when will they use their patents? Innovate and win :-)
If they repackage the Leap/Z3 and try to sell that as a mid tier device it's not going to fly. I'm looking at a Leap right now and by the time this fiscal year is done....that phone is going to look so dated. With the huge bezels, horrible speaker, sub par screen, and the "8mp auto focus" branded on the back.
@nuff_said...And no NFC I believe,lol
Knowing BlackBerry's hardware spec decisions, I am sure they will mess up the specs on the 2 phones coming and price them to not sell.
Two phones? I hope one of them is a BB10 device.
BB10 or Nothing! BlackBerry Forever!
He did not say anything about any OS10's
Only, two secure Android's
However, that is not to say the second phone to be released in February 2017 will be OS10 (secret)
It's good if he continues to be assertive about releasing devices as waffling just drives people away from their hardware. Now if they can price it appropriately and continue to improve the software, they might be able to hang on.
Got my Priv direct from BlackBerry gonna do the same with one of these. And it won't be a BB10 ya'll dreaming. Good while it lasted. Thanks Thorsten...actually I like him. Thanks media...
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I knw for sure its a blkbrry/android devices....bet me any money :)
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Powered by a snapdragon 808, would bet money on it.
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hes stated all along that when droid phones sell it can support further BB10 development. Wake up and wash out the wax.
@Zeratul57...I like that..:-)
I've never heard him say that. Really? That doesn't even make sense for him to say.
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He's mentioned something in the lines of if the BBRY Android phones sold well, they would further develop BB10 to eventually replace those Droids. Because there's absolutely nothing innovative about Android and Android Phones. The Innovation starts with BB10 and ends with it. That should be the companies OS priority.
He said nothing of the sort. If Android sells, which BB10 did not, why the heck would they turn back? No business logic in that.
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BB10 is effectively dead people come on. BB10 was a great os but commercially an unmitigated disaster. It's a BlackBerry Android or anouther device by a different company.
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The Priv was a much bigger sales disaster. Probably the biggest in BB's history.
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Can't beat a billion dollar write-off.
Remember the inglor10us Zzzz...! :-)
• There's a Crack in the Berry right now... •
The Priv launch was far worse than the Z10. In terms of a billion dollar write-off you're probably right, but we don't know how many Privs were ordered! But, we do know that the Z10 outsold it out of the box easily.
Note that Thor ordered too many Z10s. Still, the billion dollar write-off is kind of what you'd expect in launching a brand new platform with no upgrade path. No reasonable person expected BlackBerry would make money on the first couple of BB10 handsets. The Surface, Microsoft's huge hit, was a 1.5 billion dollar write-off on it's first generation, but man does it make money today. There's one reason BB10 wasn't able to do the same: John Chen.
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Yes, but after the write-off all of them were sold for profit to save Chen. That write-off is only partially true. Priv is a far bigger disaster, even though it doesn't lose money it has lost most customers. A much bigger loss.
Thanks, Sorinv!
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@premwatsapp BTW, weren't you the guy who helped suppress righteous indignation in the community here about the Priv shipping with Android by spreading the rumor that BlackBerry would continue as dual platform with future BB10 development and devices? I remember you as one of the top Chen apologists. This was just because what you were saying made no sense and was not compatible with why we all knew Chen was switching to Android -- to cut the cost of developing the BB10 platform and not because anyone seriously thought Android would sell better. What I've long wondered is whether you were lied to or you are a Chen devotee? My guess is that you're a BlackBerry fan who isn't from the U.S. and wasn't familiar with what John Chen is.
EDIT: I removed an unintentionally insulting bit at the end. Still curious about what happened, but didn't mean to offend anyone.
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Nice to see him still in the spotlight!
Posted using the best phone ever, the Z30!
Great by the end of the year?!? it's may second right now.. so does that mean December 31st?!? Lol. Probably so.
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Based on the PRIV launch.. that is still going on. I'm not sure how BlackBerry releases two device in a short period of time. So maybe one in September and one in December?
Chen speaks in fiscal years, generally.
Yes, but he doesn't say, "We'll release two new phones this *fiscal year*." I completely understand why it causes confusion when he just says "this year" given its ambiguous at best and more likely means the calendar year. He's got to know he's speaking to a general audience that doesn't know much. Chen is just awful.
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Preaching to the choir when it comes to fiscal years man. Every time we post BBRY earnings there's always someone (or many people) trying to correct the year lol.
@Bla1ze...So confusing ,just like the Old Man,I wish I was in his shoes though,new Young guys should take over or maybe even a woman... Talk about free Publicity,hahha
With the amount of investment that was recently cut, I don't see how this is possible. The devices would need to rehash many of the same features of the PRIV as there is no way they can test new features asked by each of the different carriers in 6 months time.
Who said anything about Carriers.....
There is little reason to think Carrier's would want another BlackBerry. And a number of signs that BlackBerry is moving towards making BB hardware part of their EMM solutions sales.
"Pre-orders start shipping Nov 6th..." remember that one?
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There was more volume than expected.
You mean demand?
We should load his Twitter account with BB10 chants. Let us the consumer speak on it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKie-vgUGdI
Would honestly expect one BB10 phone and another DroidBerry. I hope the next Porsche Design phone is still a true BlackBerry.
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You assume there is another Porsche Design?
Passport SE was the last Porsche Design. Except they ended the deal and called it Silver Edition instead of Passport Porchse.
Is that confirmed or speculation?
:-D
Thanks for clarifying!
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It wasn't a Porsche Design... just repeating speculation that I've heard others say. Others who have never seen a Porsche Designed device apparently.
Even rich people want to use SnapChat or Instagram... those Porsche Designed devcies didn't sell well. They were really more of a marketing tool, and Chen was going to renew a marketing partnership that didn't have a purpose anymore.
Chenfied off course. Good news but the waiting time.......
Shadow Q10
BB10 Chen!!! Dont abandon us loyal BB10 users!
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+1
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@BerrySoul... +2
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He has no intention of producing any more BB10 devices.
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Good.
... is a BlackBerry offering... ;-D
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@ToniCipriani...Shame on you...Haha
And he apparently has no desire to innovate. BlackBerry was built on innovation, and without this it will never be a great company again. It may live on for 20 more years but it will not be great without visionary leadership and innovation.
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Innovation?
BlackBerry was a one hit wonder. Their Innovation took place back in the 90's.
As Chen Said of Bloomberrg TV
The next two phones will be released as secure Android ... he did not say anything about new OS10's
His schedule only goes out to February 2017.
Gee, didn't see that one coming...
At this point BB10 is the WebOS is this decade.
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No BB10 phones? That is your opinion. And if that was true, Chen would be making a huge mistake.
I hope it's a true blackberry device not an BlackBerry android version
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You loyal Blackberry people really blow my mind. Of course, to each his own... but I don't understand how you get by in 2016 with BBOS. Their hardware is great, I've had a few Blackberries and loved the hardware side of them all... but the app selection is just so lacking, and sideloading sucks because it's kind of a pain and things run slowly and are often buggy. Security is great, I will give you that one too. I just don't get the love for BBOS, unless you use like two apps or less, and Blackberry has those two covered. To each his own, but I love the Android direction! Glad to hear they are staying in the hardware game for the time being.
Many of us have used Cobalt's files to get the regular Google Play store on our BB10 devices and it works flawlessly. The only issue is that a few of the apps need to be patched. It really is an effective way to have the best of both worlds.
I use Cobalt's patched Play Store myself on my Z10, but that's only going to last for so long. The runtime is stuck at 4.3 Jelly Bean and will never be updated beyond that. Soon fewer and fewer android apps will run on it. Android N is just around the corner and the runtime in BB10 will be a full 4 versions behind.
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I've done the same and it's a pain and really not the optimal solution. This will only satisfy a few who are willing to follow detailed instructions, sideboard and patch apps. And after all that you really can't trust these apps because you never really know what they are doing in the background after making all the changesto them.
It's 3 simple downloads. How is that any different than loading apps? It's most definitely not difficult if one wants or needs it. QNX is brilliant.
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It's so simple, just about every day there are four or five users having issues doing it.
Never mind the need for many apps to be patched, or the simple fact that some apps just are not going to work.
SNAP was much easier... but it' doesn't seem to be working anymore to create new accounts. Who knows if Cobalt's solution will work down the road.
A work around is never a good solution. Eventually the wheels will come off with no update to the run time. Cudos to Cobalt but there is no comparison to having a real Android device.
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Every device and OS has some work arounds. Android has to have an app for everything and you are completely tied into Google. iOS is similar in some respects. Multiple emails with high volume on either is no comparison. To each their own I guess. I like choices and prefer BlackBerry 10 over other OS's for my needs.
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I own and use 4 real Android devices. (Samsung Tab Pro tablets) the few Android port apps I do have on my BlackBerry 10 devices work just fine. In fact I don't recall apps crashing on my BlackBerry's as they do on the tablets? I have used a Note 3 and G4. Android OS on a mobile hand set does not impress me enough to buy one. (my tablets are for reading, news and entertainment) My BlackBerry's help my wife and me manage and run a very busy and successful business. I simply prefer BlackBerry 10. (Also gave an iPhone 6S Plus a go for a week and a half) I do like the more advanced cameras on the new Android and iPhone's.
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The problem here is Google. That simply spies on anything you do. They designed a platform that will make the user rely on them 100%. I rather keep them out of my BlackBerry OS.
It's a shame BBRY didn't update Dalvik in BB10 to ART before signing the license for GMS (assuming restrictions on non-GMS licensed devices are true).
I really think some of Chen's first big cuts... included BB10 development. Yeah he kept some development going, but the move to 64Bit BB10 and updating the Runtime... those were killed very early in his cost savings chops.
2 things keep me on BB10. The Hub and BlackBerry Balance. Nothing Android offers can compete with the that.
The keyboard is also better than any stock Android keyboard. I've gotten so used to flicking and swiping that it's weird when I use another phone.
Gestures. Peeking. Etc...
I agree that the app content is lacking but side loading is a thing of the past with the Amazon store and Snap. I'm a heavy messaging and app user. I have over 100 apps installed and numerous email and messaging accounts.
Is BB10 better than Android? It has the ability to be. But no support from BlackBerry, the media and masses didn't give it a fair shot.
I used to change phones every year, but this Z30 has me hooked and waiting on an upgrade.
I have to add that it isn't fair that I can get a better deal on a brand new S7 than a Priv. One day BlackBerry will get it hopefully.
Hub keyboard
And gestures
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Latest update for Hub gets it closer to BB10. No swipe right but swipe up / right brings up the Hub, takes a bit of getting used to, but not bad. No peeking. But has improved functionality with swipe left delete and swipe right snooze. Excellent features that BB10 cannot have.
Both keyboards excellent on PRIV. Same virtual keyboard, and ever so slightly faster experience on PRIV (hold to capitalize).
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But once you open a message in the Hub update does it open the app or can you respond to messages directly in the Hub. That's what I want. I'll be willing to try it out if they can get it to a one step process like on BB10.
And am I the only Balance user???
You can respond directly from the hub. On my Android, I have notifications that I pull down from the top of the screen which is pretty much the same as the peak feature.
I like the VKB as much as on my Z10. I like BB10 but Android does the job.
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You can respond to emails directly in the Hub but for text messages you still have to use a 3rd party app. I'm currently using Google Messenger. I hope they fix this issue either by adding full text message support to the Hub or to BBM.
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Gestures, HUB, Keyboard & Balance.
BB10 is years ahead of the competition and is technologically far superior to Android and iOS, which both still run off an old 2007 based OS theme that still use back buttons and home buttons. LOL, ludicrous. Shame BlackBerry doesn't properly Market its Masterpiece.
You have any idea how old QNX is?
When I need to disassemble and electronic device like a smart phone, I have a set of small screwdrivers that I use.
Now there aren't as high tech or powerful as my 18-Volt Lithium powered 1,200LB torque Milwaukee Power Drill. But sometimes it's best to use the right tool.
QNX might have been a good base for BB10 (many have pointed out that RTOS works best when it's small), but then addition of the Android Runtime kill it's performance potential.
Android is all right. Lags a little on the Priv. Thought I would have dozens of apps, but only have 4 Microsoft apps that I rarely use. I do have a dozen apps on BB10, but rarely use them. Guess it's a wash for me between the two. Only difference between usage of the two... I don't ever click on any suspicious links with the Priv, but I'll click on those same links with the BB10 phones. Guess it's a mental thing.
Android lags on any device. Regardless of specs. Because its an outdated OS and terribly designed, that continually requires a restart to keep it running a bit better. I run into slow downs on my Galaxy S5 many times. I retired that thing and went back to my Z30. For obvious reasons.
You are correct. The thing that my priv has over my z30 is an up to date browser that runs everything I need to run. Bb10 won't anymore. I have to say that I'm. Really enjoying the pkb on the priv as well. Like the touch sensitive part and am getting pretty good at typing on it
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@chzballs... I enjoy blowing others people's mind when I share my screen and want something done fast,I think just whipping out my passport gets them intrigued and garnishes respect as soon as they see how unique the monster is,lol
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