Making his media rounds after the BlackBerry earnings call, BlackBerry CEO John Chen sat down to talk with Bloomberg's Emily Chang about the Q1 Fiscal 2017 results, the full-fiscal year profit forecast, two new phones coming to market as well as the future of BlackBerry hardware production.
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Although Chen avoided mentioning new devices on the earnings call, those waiting on new hardware will be interested to know that lower-priced device forthcoming will be an all-touch device. Something Chen noted previously but is worth noting again.
When asked about the hardware business Chen once again noted, BlackBerry has now moved into more so designing phones versus manufacturing them and as such, lowering their cost risks associated with hardware by creating new partnerships with original design manufacturers such as Wistron.
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John Chen discusses BlackBerry profit forecast and new smartphones
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Chen is the virus that hacked into blackberry....time to get rid of Trojan chen
Posted via CB10
All touch? What happened to the "Vienna"?
Posted via CB10
Priv is all touch if you don't slide the keyboard down.
Posted via the 5X
I had a friend send me this link on Bbm. Not sure if it's legit
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1884678-Blackberry-to-release...
Posted via the CrackBerry App on my BlackBerry Priv ™
Lots of Passport users! Would a Passport Powered by Android Not be an option? ( With updated specs.) Using Priv now, awesome phone. Access to all the apps, work related apps, is a big deal. Both for consumer and business users.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
I hope by mid range, they dont mean a $400 phone
Posted via CB10
Thats the nice thing about owning a Priv. It's not like a new flagship will be coming out in the next few months
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Doesn't work in CB10, bloomberg uses incompatible html embed code.
Typed using my QNX powered BlackBerry Classic running 10.3.2.2876 on WINDmobile HSPA+
Time to call the family to the hospital. Life support just isn't going to make sense anymore. While blackberry 10 OS is superior, I've given in. Time for IOS full-blown. IPad, iPhone, ****, I'd even buy a watch at this point.
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All in on Apple??? 100% gross!!!
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
Mr.JC has to come up with rigorous quality test for BBM across all available operating systems. At present, Whatsapp doesn't have video call facility. But it has good cross platform performance. I talk across the world using whatsapp that runs on various hand sets and os. It does its job very well even though I have poor Internet speed in Africa.
If BlackBerry could make BBM a quality messenger, whoever stick with BlackBerry won't think of leaving it. Idea is good, whoever leaving QNX may land on BlackBerry's Oxygen Android or QNX Android but some of us would like to remain as QNX fans! They have to simplify BBM as well! Let BlackBerry be versatile and show MS that BlackBerry Hub works well with Win X!
Why BlackBerry users leave because the scarcity of applications and most of the available apps seldom deliver. Popular apps are leaving BlackBerry for instance fb, skype and whatsapp.
I wish if BlackBerry could start a free QNX app tutorials, some of the wizards would start coding and BlackBerry can test them and post them for money in BlackBerry world.
Business depends on a single law! Supply Vs Demand. If there is no demand must know how to create. There's no point in saying or stating 'Ours is the best, QNX is running on 50M vehicles or going to be used with medical equipments or the like'. Actually I'm proud of myself to have BlackBerry Passport!
Looking forward to see many continue to stick with BlackBerry!
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So what does focusing on designing devices and not making devices mean? Are they creating the patents for them and allow others to buy them to make the design?
Posted via CB10
They farm the manufacturing process off to a third party. Saves money at the expense of quality control and jobs within the company.
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I think it is a right move to have 3rd party manufacturing the phone. Apple has done it and been very successful. I think what Google has done with Nexus is tremendous and having a similar strategy might work for BB. I only hope the best for this organization. And would mind switching to BB with android.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
I think that the new coming Rome will be a success. I hope so and I myself will buy one. I like pkb and an android phone with pkb will be very nice yet the BlackBerry 10 is better but cannot have many useful apps installed.
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Doubt it. No device of theirs has been successful in years. Doubt it will suddenly happen now. Especially with absolutely zero marketing which seems to be a hallmark of BlackBerry.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
It's really a shame.. they would have introduced Z30 successor.. put
Full HD screen
SD 820
430 GPU
4GB RAM
LET CAT 9
Bluetooth 4
4500 to 5000 mAh battery
USB type C
Quick Charging
Get some famous apps to platform
And price it around $600
Blackberry will sell like hot cakes...
Posted via CB10
Put BB10.3.3 on a Priv!
Passport user
Looking forward for the new devices. My passport has issues in its signal.
Posted via CB10
I'm loving the new BB10 OS update...oh wait...nope...must have been confused...
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Don't know why most of u guys are still pessimistic while BlackBerry is being solid in software progress! Things have changed now. After all BlackBerry can't risk money marketing in such a high competitive market as now being before having solid feet on the ground. And after all the giants in devices sales are down cos they are repeating themselves with nothing really knew. BlackBerry is at least unique even in the android world with security, hub, pop up widgets and with some little marketing supported with googles partnership, they might do great. Needs time
Posted via CB10
When you don't market or advertise your devices they won't sell.
Posted via CB10
Wonder how long do we have to wait for a bb10 devices update, heard only next year, but I think we something more substantial is in order
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Stop waiting, there won't be any
Great, a lower priced, lower performance specced device to go with my red hot, and I mean temperature wise, Priv, with a keyboard I N E V E R use, except when I show it to people as a gimmick. Where do I sign up???
I certainly hope that there is more Blackberry devices with OS 10/Android capability.
Funny, my daughters saw this and actually said they would like to buy it once it's available, if ever...https://recombu.com/mobile/article/concepts-the-future-of-mobile-phones-...
I think BlackBerry will go the same route.
Get out of building phones and leave that low margin business behind.
They know they can't win in hardware.
Focus on Security, QNX and other Software based offerings.
License what you are good at and use that as your core business.
The next BlackBerry Phones are for companies that want total control of their Mobile Communications.
BlackBerry knows that market is niche for their Security and Basic Performance.
Consumers and BYOD Companies will have the choice to buy that level of Security or Application to whatever level they feel they need.
The world is going Mobile. Threats like Ransomware and Viruses are going to become more and more prevalent.
Blackberry sees that.
Hardware is not the business you want to be in.
Posted objectively via S7 Edge.
Take a look at Microsoft's Phone Businesss
Posted objectively via S7 Edge.
Physical keyboards are a must, preferably bb10 but may be willing to use android keyboard as long as it's not small like the priv. Also must have the BB10 HUB.
Berry happy Q10, Q10, Passport, 9900, Z10 and now the ZED 30......
Crackberrians... Let save BB10..Since our voices and passion for BB10 are not been heard or felt, there is always a way out. We all contribute into a Gofundme account. Buy BB10 software and hardware from Blackberry and Let Bla1ze or management of crackberry run the show.....very simple, doable OR we petition Mike L to take back the company
I admire your passion. John Chen would laugh at those efforts.
Spending money on a product the very company that made it doesn't believe in?! Admirable effort...but no...thanks...
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Oh yeah? Where is your proof that they don't believe in it considering they are still working on Bb10 updates?
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
Blackberry was doomed the day they got competition.
No one to blame but themselves.
via my Samsung Galaxy S5
Ummmm mind you I'm on the CrackBerry App on my Classic and the "Ad" startled me I thought a locomotion was coming through my window!!
BlackBerry Ummmmm dummies....Android has a Plethora of "all touch" devices. Exactly what do you think you are gonna bring to the table to make a difference o_O - you are known for fabulous keyboards.....and the Privs fails in compare to the Classic....thus a no buy. You can only appeal to the masses with your keyboard - most don't care about your "security" software...
Jé Be....Here But Gone...
I wish if could release hand sets with dual boot facility (android and QNX) so that I can switch to QNX with his BlackBeroid phones!
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Yuck... I will pass on the cheap glass slab Android and anxiously await something with a functioning PKB...
Posted via CB10
You're all a bunch of ph#ck!ng 1os3r$
I'm interested is seeing the new phones from BlackBerry.
Posted via CB10
Can't watch the video in the CB app nor the browser. Awesome! Now thats innovation in 2016. I mean, I don't see why nobody is jumping for joy with bb10!?!?!
Its slowing us down, its becoming more and more incompatible with todays world! Even CB doesnt care to push the videos our way!
Posted via CB10 on the Classic
Long live BlackBerry!
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Yeah go Chen!! F##$@#$%$#%@$#@ that interviewer girl.... gonna go cut off all her hair and everything!
Alrighty then.
The BlackBerry Priv with BlackBerry Android is a very good smartphone. face facts. people, including business users, want and need certain applications only available for Apple iOS and Google Android OS. BlackBerry dropped the ball by 2010. Maybe if bring your own device (BYOD) had not caught on with enterprises the situation might be different today. The physical keyboard is a hallmark of BlackBerry; any future of without a physical keyboard is the death knell for the company.
BlackBerry Priv with CrackBerry App for Android
Broken video when viewed on a BlackBerry unless one jumps through hoops. Fail.
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Things will change when things get better. The future looks bright, they have just got to start showing off more what Blackberry ( not a dead company) is doing in the world. Right now very few know the advantages or the differences. Thats sales mistake number 1
Video works just fine on my android device.
When will you clowns stop crying about BB10? Don't you understand that noone is buying? It costs at least $5 million to develop a phone. I know because I worked for several smartphone companies. Selling 3K devices to Crackberry users is not enough to break even.
How bout u take ur crappy Android device and jump off Empire State Building, Krusty The Clown. Ur the true clown around here. U should be ashamed of yourself for even stating u have an Ancient device.
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The irony figuratively kills me.
~TheRealFixxxer
Awww... the whitesux fan is back here trolling.. shocker!!!
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
I told the padre...I like it here!
Posted via BlackBerry Passport
Yay the market rejoices at more all touch slab phones!
What they really need to do is silently launch a new hardware "company" that's not named blackberry.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
I thought of that also. Getting rid of the BlackBerry name would probably help them more than hurt them.
Posted via the CrackBerry App on the BlackBerry Priv.
You can go to any doctor in the state of California seeking medical marijuana and invoke the name "John Chen" and they can't sign that Rx fast enough.
Z5 Premium - 6.0.1 - T-Mobile USA
How about you go to a mental health professional and get some real meds.. you know, the kind to fix your "issues".
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
Can't watch the video about BlackBerry on a BlackBerry website on my BlackBerry :/
Posted via CB10
Chen give us a new high end BB10 Passport II !
Posted via CB10
Priv screen with Passport SE back cover. No Keyboard.
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I'm awfully proud of him.
Posted via BlackBerry Passport
Proud of his awfulness? Lol
Proud of your accomplishments as CEO of large international publicly traded corporations
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
Thanks, man.
BlackBerry need to price the mid range such as One plus and Motorola, they don't make crazy money but they sell a lot of devices
Posted via CB10
Troll? Really? I'm pro BlackBerry on a so called BlackBerry site and have to listen to a ton of crap from so called BlackBerry bashers wishing the end of BlackBerry. I just asked a question and instead of answering in a way that was grown up and backed with evidence you had a childish hissy fit! Visit UTB blogs and learn some facts
Media: they load the bullets and watch with amusement!
BlackBerry has aged Chen......
Chen has aged BB users
lol! Chen has turned me into a bitter grumpy old man who needs to smoke a huge joint everytime I see that look on his face or hear the delusions that come out of the pie hole under his nose.
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You definitely are a bitter "fan"...
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
Really? Chen is what's making you need joint? Lol
Posted with my shiny new Priv
ROTFLMAO..
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
Steady And Ready for the better yet to come!
Posted via CB10
Bloomberg, is a far left think tank we don't trust what they say regardless of this story.
But Bloomberg is only asking the questions lol.
Love BlackBerry
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
Where's 10.3.3? Not gonna tell us?!
Thanks John Chen for ******** up on once again!
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
Video played perfect for me. He said they have bought "6" companies recently. Maybe just maybe had they spent some of that money on advertising they would have sold more than 500,000 phones. I do wonder how many of those were BlackBerry 10 vs Priv?
Sent via the BlackBerry PRIV
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
You have to give him credit for remembering to uncross his fingers when he was raising his hands to camera level.
Great, now we have embedded advertising here. Or I have just never noticed it before. Now this is acting like my pm homepage, and others that start and you can't find the ad to shut off or mute....sheeesh....
Posted via CB10
Hardware is still too big a piece of the revenue pie. It's not going anywhere anytime soon.
Posted via BlackBerry Priv STV100-1
It's also a profit drainer.
You are dreaming. The company posted a $600M loss. There was what...a $40M inventory write-off? The losses are based on acquisitions and re-structuring, not hardware. Priv research and development ended a few quarters ago and BB10 is relegated to OS patch mode. Chen is spending money on future software revenues. Legacy BBOS and BB10 hardware has been funding that transition ever since Chen took over.
Posted via BlackBerry Priv STV100-1
Accounting loss...
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
Apple were in the same boat and they brought passion back and in turn were rewarded with vision. We have neither and desperately need Mr. Chen to leave this party because he is killing everybody's buzz!
Posted via CB10
That's what I've said for a long time. Chen is a great organizational leader, even a corporate lifesaver. But he is certainly not a tech CEO.
And you are?
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
I'm Birdman.
So no... thought so.
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@js8229 - I think you kind of hit the nail on the head when you said that sticking with the vision was only "one reason" why they succeeded. While I definitely agree that it seems BlackBerry hasn't had much of a clear direction lately, Apple and Google have had the much needed resources to make it work. BlackBerry doesn't really have that luxury.
As long as they're able to give me something after my Priv, I'm all up for that but please don't give up - the average consumer will surely get bored of the choices of just Samsung or Apple eventually. I just hope BlackBerry's around for when that happens.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
So go get that chip for your truck and do some analytics on it. That is the only product after Priv there will probably be marketed.
Posted via CB10
With BlackBerry going android, BlackBerry isn't savings you from those two options
Posted via CB10
Well I just really don't understand what they're doing. Seems like they just want to find a niche that doesn't require any hard work or dedication, but can profit just enough with very little effort. Mobile is a hard game and you need to stick with it to carve out your piece. Heck, if they'd have stuck with at least one of the many different directions they tried over the past few years they'd be more than half way to success by now.
BBOS7 and BB10 weren't perfect, but iOS and Android in their first several releases were arguably pretty poor too-- and I for one think that BB10 is actually pretty good right now. One of the reasons Apple and Google are successful is that they stuck with the vision and [eventually] made it work.
WELL SAID!!! Just as I have been saying, that consistency is key. You need to keep patience and keep doing what you're doing best and the results will follow.
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Perhaps we can bring Mike back ala Apple did with the great Steve and passion can again rule the school. #ChenOut
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He's running a new Quantum Computing type venture in Waterloo.. the guy is a super genius!
Posted via CB10
He is brilliant, his return would be a REAL buzz. Wonder what device is his main driver now.
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You can watch the interview on the bb10 Bloomberg app.
Two new phones. The lower end phone will be all touch. No mention of OS.
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Oooh idk if that's the right move to make. This is coming from someone who wants the PKB. I don't need as strong a processor (as much RAM, etc) as someone with a full touch device, as my screen is smaller I generally watch less video + play fewer games. I still want a strong processor (it's nice when I do watch video/play games/browse the web) but I'm just being realistic, someone with a full touch device probably needs it more.
(full disclaimer, didn't watch the video, just going based on the parent comment)
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It is the right move. All touch space is too crowded and besides, PKB fans pay more. Look at the Classic price point...hasn't budged since release and almost twice the price of the Leap.
Posted via BlackBerry Priv STV100-1
Chen's an *****. If you loved BlackBerry devices, it's time to realize that the last thing you should do is buy a BlackBerry device from John Chen. There's no Berry in Chen's BlackBerry!
Preach
Posted via CB10
+infinity on that.
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Sad but true.
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What? Your trolling?
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
Passport SE is the best Berry in 10+ years that i've owned.... try harder
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
Sadly I think the Priv could be my last BlackBerry. I have no interest in mid-range phones and I suspect the upcoming phones (if they actually make it to market) will be the last. Writing is on the wall just like it was with BB10.
I think BlackBerry blew another great opportunity with the Priv by essentially not marketing it. Makes me sad because I have only ever used BlackBerry.
Posted via BlackBerry PRIV
I think part of the problem is that the Priv was an uncompetitive Android device. The Nexus 6p was better a month before the Priv came out. But, the S7 Edge is so much better, it would literally be irrational for anyone to buy a Priv today. Given the ASP of BlackBerry devices, it seems likely to me that the Passport outsells the Priv. Too bad Chen began letting the platform the Passport runs on die a couple of years ago!
I think the BlackBerry loyalists move is to try to get BlackBerry to setup a foundation to develop BB10 or sell it to a firm like Qualcomm with a commitment to develop it for another 5 years. We need our own platform niched for productivity and our own ecosystem. Chen failed to see that from Day #1 and the company has shrunk to insignificance under his watch.
+1
Posted via CB10
Chen rolled the dice with Amazon. The failure of the Amazon phone killed the forked Android / BlackBerry approach.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
It would be far from irrational to buy a priv if you can get a deal on one. I'm perfectly happy with mine. Could have been cheaper but it's a pretty nice phone and it does all I need it to well. I like the BlackBerry flair to android as well.
Posted with my shiny new Priv
It's clear now. Android was the wrong route to go.
All they had to do with BB10 was code it to make it easier to load GAPPS.
Right. They gave up their differentiation when they gave up BB10. I can just imagine how awesome BB10 would be today with leadership support, but regardless, BlackBerry can't and shouldn't compete as an Android device manufacturer. The value proposition in BlackBerry was always in BlackBerry having its own platform.
Too bad Heins bungled the launch. The damage was done.
Don't forget how Franky B screwed the pooch on the marketing of it... Superflop commercial anyone?
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Well said.
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+1 you are so right.
I'm not silly enough to stick around on bb10 anymore. I am not interested in being on an ageing os with no future updates. But God how I wish it wasn't so mismanaged. It breaks my heart thinking about the thousands of people that built the best mobile os for blackberry and it was all effed up by Thor and now all those brilliant people are contributing to other companies instead of BlackBerry.
The potential was limitless. But the chance of any return of bb10 in any form is slim to none at this point.
Android sucks, but what else do I pick?
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
Crackberry posted a video that cannot play on its app and won't play either on BlackBerry Browser too. Luckily I have the original browser that supports flash sideloaded on my Passport SE and when I opened the webpage on the browser it played just fyne. Funny enough Crackberry gotta do better.
Posted via CB10
Your issue is Bloomberg. Not up to me go around converting their videos for them. If there was a YouTube version I would have posted that but it doesn't appear to be uploaded yet.
Ridiculous that the video can't play on Passport.
Posted via CB10
Silly BlackBerry user.
Shoulda got an Android
Said the guy reading BlackBerry news.
Posted via CB10
Had to read it, I have a BlackBerry... video no worky
(OUTSTANDING AGAIN CRACKdroid)
He is a troll
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
What is with BlackBerry 10 future??
Posted via CB10
BB10 is a dead in the water OS! :-(
Posted via CB10 on my ClassicSQC100-1/10.3.2.2876
Road kill?
PassportSQW100-1/10.3.2.2876
What BlackBerry 10 future?
*C5303
From previous announcements, as far as I know, BB10 won't be supported after the end of this year but they're hoping that two new Android powered BlackBerries will keep the legacy going.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
Can't watch the video. At work. Did he give timelines for the phones? Please no coming soon nonsense
Can't watch video. I have a BlackBerry.
Posted via CB10
Lol. Just got back from lunch...same issue
BlackBerry's new slogan should be...we don't support our own products... what's make you think we'd support you?
Yeah, he said they'll be released together with dark Hub.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
In one of the interviews today he said he wouldn't talk about the new phones but to reiterate he wants to come with 2 midrange android phones this fiscal year. He did say he would have more to say about the first one in July.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
In summation, Chen is killing the hardware slowly and moving to licence the hub to other companies.
He already said "we are not making phones anymore".
Almost nothing left of the old legend BlackBerry.
Posted via CB10
Apple doesn't "make" any of its phones. It says this quite clearly on the back of each phone. Moving away from assets that manufacture to outsourcing a design make perfect sense for BlackBerry.
Posted via CB10
BlackBerry sold just 500,000 phones this quarter while apple sold 51million whoa! Incredible indeed. With all the high margin at which apple sells their phones people still buy them by all means necessary. I beg to differ though. BlackBerry Passport SE until BB10 goes MIA.
Posted via CB10
BlackBerry doesn't manufacture, either. Chen is actually moving away from some of the design work that both Apple and BlackBerry do very well. He's already laid off most of BlackBerry's best-in-class hardware folks and will outsource to people who suck but cost less. If you are a BlackBerry fan, this ceased to be your company when they hired Chen.
Best in class? Is that why the PRIV came out with no 64 GB, let alone a 128 GB variant but with just one mono speaker instead, and without a fingerprint, let alone a heart rate sensor but with just a Snapdragon 808 instead?
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
Dude, Give Credit Where Due...Priv Is One Of The Most Underrated And Best Designed Devices We Have Today... Very Good For A First...Progress Is A Process,Let Them Get Their Feet Wet In The Android Pool First,Then Criticize All You Can. I'm Sure It Being Probably The Most Secure Android Device Had Something To Do With Those Feature Omissions.
Posted From My Priv In The Jungles Of Congo
You clearly understand how the (Android) world works.
Yeah... fandroids are all about massive specs and devices loaded with gimmicky features..
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
Hub, peek and flow are also gimmicky features.
Posted via Nexus 6p
Yeah... so gimmicky. SMFH
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
Dude, really?
Posted with my shiny new Priv
Unfortunately, that's really how the PRIV was released.
Why do you need a 64gb or 128gb variant when it accepts a 1tb sd card???
Media: they load the bullets and watch with amusement!
Rrrright! I must have forgotten about that!
Why do you need a 5 inch screen when you can fit enough text on a stamp-sized screen? And what's the purpose of integrating GPS? Garmin makes wonderful GPS handhelds! Why even bother with stuff like a web browser or apps in general? I mean, that's what we have our MacBooks for, right?
You make no sense!!
Media: they load the bullets and watch with amusement!
Hm, why are you talking to yourself here? You're right - that doesn't make any sense.
Seriously, grow up!
Media: they load the bullets and watch with amusement!
...says the troll as he runs out of arguments. Oh, wait - he didn't even have a single argument to begin with.
EOD.
Actually, I agree with him. If you have removable storage, why do you really need a 128 GB model? I'm perfectly happy with my 32 GB Passport rocking a 64 GB card.
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
No, you don't because it doesn't matter what you or I *need*. Despite the obvious technical reason why it would be useful (more space to store apps without sacrificing speed or increasing the risk of data loss), the point is the competition has it so if you are in an underdog's position, yet you charge a price even *higher* than that of your competitors it's usually not a good idea to cut on features which are readily available on your competitors' devices.
What finding excuses for the shortcomings of BlackBerry devices has led to we all saw in the quarterly results. So please stop saying "yeah, it was a good idea to release a flagship device with an outdated processor because that's still enough for most tasks". No law prevented BlackBerry from engineering a solution for the thermal problems of the Snapdragon 810. The same goes for the other features I mentioned - and the ones I didn't like a waterproof body.
1. Did the Galaxy Edge 6 have microsd? If i'm not mistaken, Samsung did away with it.
2. The Priv wasn't any more expensive than the Galaxy Edge.
3. I'm not saying the Priv is perfect but it is still a decent device.
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
The Galaxy S7 Edge defintely has microsd. But, I think you are right, if memory serves, the old s6 did not have a microsd slot.
Exactly... and the Edge 7 was just recently released... so it isn't like BlackBerry hadn't tried to differentiate the Priv from the Edge 6... at least somewhat
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
1. And guess what Samsung changed with the Galaxy Edge 7 and why.
2. You're doing it again. But that's okay. Let's just pretend for a moment there was a single carrier selling the PRIV upon its launch so that you could have bought it at a subsidized price, okay?
3. I never doubted that.
1. You just supported the original point of the person you got snarky with.
2. It is late, but that really doesn't make much sense. Yes, there are pricing variations across carriers but the Priv was still overall on par.. or generally less expensive than the Galaxy Edge.
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
1. You mentioned the SGSx first. Btw.: It has an IR blaster.
2. Maybe you should not comment when "it is late" then. Most people would consider 400 bucks less than 700, at least most people I know.
Troll alert!
Posted via Overheating Z10
Yeah, figured that myself. Thanks anyway.
You figured out that you were a troll? Good on you...self awareness is a good trait to have.
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
Huh? I figured that *you* a troll, but of course you already know that.
Says the clown talking isht on a BlackBerry fansite. Try harder...
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Er, nope. A clown is supposed to be funny which you are not so let's stick to "troll" when we're referring to you.
Your reading comprehension sucks about as bad as your comebacks and your money management...
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So not at all then. Unfortunately, a compliment made by a retard is not worth much. I think I'm gonna cry.
I'm sure you will.. you've been crying on this post for a week so why stop now?
Ps. Your use of the word retard truly shows how big of a turd you are.
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
Why is it that all idiots start talking to themselves when they are being called out? Actually, I don't care so please spare me any insight you could share with me.
No... i'm talking to you moron.. but you are probably struggle to comprehend that given your issues.
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
I only have an issue with stupid morons like you.
Says the guy that has the reading comprehension of a toddler.. Buh Buh Buh you said the Priv wasn't 32 GB and you said your Passport ran Android and had an IR blaster... whaaaa whaaaa whaaaa
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
Wow, that's a new trolling strategy to me: First you're talking bullshit, and when you're being called out on it you just claim it was the other person who said it! You know, I was absolutely sure there would be nothing I could ever learn from you, like, you know, the rock can't teach the monkey anything. But I was wrong. So thanks for showing me an interesting trolling strategy I wasn't aware of!
And this marks the end of this discussion as you clearly lack the comprehension skills to follow a discussion as well as the courage to stand by your own statements. All you can do is insult people because, quite obviously, you lack the brains to understand what people are saying. That's pretty unfortunate, but I guess it wasn't completely unwarranted for that you got banned on BGR, and there's probably a reason people don't like you here either.
Awwww... do I have a little stalker on BGR? Hilarious that a couple of you have no life so you follow me around... and last I checked, you were the one that started with the personal attacks.... but again, keep crying and posting pages of drivel...
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
1. Dude.. you were talking crap about BBRY only putting out a 32 GB device... another posted pointed out that you can use SD cards, which the Edge 6 doesn't have. You obviously missed the point.
2. Ummm.. when I compared devices prior to the new Galaxy phones coming out, the Priv was $50 less than the Edge 6.
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
1. I'm not your "dude". If you can't follow a discussion, that's not my problem.*You* came up with the SGS6(E). Also, the SGS6 is available with up to 128 GB of *internal* storage which might not completely eliminate the need for an SD slot (which is why Samsung brought it back with the SGS7), but it definitely works better as a replacement for it than the other way round. Of course you knew that if you either a) were paying attention or b) had a clue.
And now you're even denying there's only a 32 GB model of the PRIV? What a pathetic trolling attempt.
2. Yeah, wonderful. When the PRIV first came out, the only chance to get one was to import it from the US because BBRY once again missed a deadline they had set themselves ("pre-order through ShopBlackBerry starts within the first two weeks of November"). Ordering it from the US would, of course, incur additional shipping costs, taxes and customs, plus the cost for the correct charger (if you needed one). The SGSE6 on the other hand - to stay with the example *you* came up with - was available from the day Samsung said it would be.
Now, ordering from the US was also the only way to get a PRIV with wireless charging (which is very useful in general, as I can say now, but unfortunately the implementation in the PRIV makes it incompatible with half the wireless docks out there - but hey, who cares, right?) (and before you even think about changing the setting again to match your "arguments" - we're still talking about feature comparability, and the SGS6 has wireless charging all over the world), but unfortunately it would take away the opportunity of getting it subsidized from your carrier.
But let's just say you were willing to wait the unspecified amount of time until the PRIV was officially released here because you wanna make the price comparable and you were willing to do without wireless charging and you didn't care about the fact that the PRIV had outdated hardware right from the first day of its availability in the US (thus making waiting not a very viable option as with every new flagship model introduced by the competition the PRIV became a less attractive offering - so buying it relatively soon after its release was basically the most reasonable thing to do) - do you remember how many carriers offered the PRIV upon its release? Right, none let you pre-order it, most didn't carry it at all, and the only one to start carrying it only *after* its official release was Vodafone whereas the SGS6 (your example!) has been available through *all* carriers right from its release.
So, believe it or not - most people out there did not have to pay the full retail price for their SGS6 because they could simply walk into their carrier's stores and either get it for about 300 bucks less together with a new contract or just upgrade their old one. In either case they got a price cut on the phone. Yes, they did have to pay for the contract, but people who buy high-end phones like the SGS6 usually have one anyway.
If I had chosen to do that I would still be waiting btw. as Telekom still does not carry the PRIV. And of course I'm still paying for my contract. It's now up to you to do the maths and decide what's cheaper - 779 bucks (official price of the PRIV for the first couple of weeks at least) which almost everyone who wanted a PRIV had to pay or 400-500 bucks which is probably what most SGS6 users paid for their phone.
And to save us another iteration here and stress my very first argument: It does not matter at all if carrier non-availability of the PRIV was BBRY's fault or not. All that matters from a potential buyer's perspective is that you can walk into your O2 or whatever store where you are actually able to buy the phone you want at a (at least seemingly) competitive price.
So there you go - I just wasted an hour of my life pointing out the obvious.
You wasted an hour crying about the fact the the Priv has varying hardware configurations based on region (because no Android phone ever has that) and that you were an early adopter and bought it from another country, so you even had to pay more. Sorry you aren't very smart with your money but that is all on you dude.. you can try to move the goalposts all you want but the bottom line is that when the Priv came out, it was $50 cheaper in the US off contract than the Galaxy Edge 6 and was in the same neighborhood if you bought it through a "rental" plan.
Ps. I never once claimed the Priv had anything other than a 32 GB model...
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
Sure. So how ended the statement "you were talking crap about BBRY only putting out a 32 GB device" up in your comment? It just magically appeared there? Oh, right - yet another attempt at trolling.
You can try to move the goalposts as much as you want but the bottom line that when the PRIV came out the 780 € which you had to pay if you wanted to get one (because not available through any carriers) were still more than the 400 € for which you could get a SGS6E (because available through *all* carriers - notice the difference?) in the same neighborhood. But I understand simple mathematics are not exactly your strength.
That's okay - we can't all be blessed with a functioning brain.
Zomg... you had to pay more for it because you had to buy it somewhere else OFF contract vs ON contract through your carrier... shame on them... shame.. shame that you couldn't wait.. shame.
Ps. Are you really this fuggin clueless? Last I checked, the Priv was 32 GB and has the option of a micro SD card. What about that is factually incorrect? I'll wait...
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
Hey, it seems all is not lost with you as you finally seem to understand half of what I said. Unfortunately, the part where I said that my carrier does not carry the PRIV and never has was again too difficult for you to understand. So how exactly would waiting have helped? Oh, wait - ANOTHER troll post by mnhankeycoach00!
Oh, now you're admitting the PRIV comes with 32 GB of storage? Interesting, because a few posts earlier you were trying to call me out when I mentioned that. Oh, wait - YET ANOTHER troll post by mnhankeycoach00!
ZOMG... your carrier doesn't carry the Priv... whaaaa whaaaa whaaa my carrier doesn't carry the Passport SE... do you see me here b*tching and moaning? And i've not once claimed the the Priv wasn't 32 GB... but you'd know that if your reading compression didn't suck and your eyes weren't full of tears.
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
My friend let me borrow his Galaxy S7 Edge and I can confirm that the Priv was a very uncompetitive device. It wasn't a BlackBerry for the BlackBerry community and no Android user should buy it. I would say the S7 is better in every single way except the physical keyboard, which is mising from the S7. I'm not being anti-BB here as I genuinely believe the Priv with an upgraded awesome BB10 would have been great, but BlackBerry Android software is awful and just destroys performance. Particularly in the areas of speed and camera, the S7 just destroy the Priv, but there are lots of little details that Sammy gets right and that BlackBerry gets wrong. At this point, my hope is that BlackBerry sells BB10 to Qualcomm so they can develop a new line of phones with it and we have a commitment to support existing devices. Android by BlackBerry should be phased out immediately when Chen is fired. If people want Android Sony, Samsung, LG, and HTC are all great options and OnePlus is shockingly affordable.
A brand new phone is better than a phone from 6+ months ago... say it ain't so.
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
That doesn't change the fact that the most recent offering from BBRY unfortunately can't really compete with the most recent offerings from other handset makers. The sad truth is that other phones give you more bang for the buck.
ZOMG... an IR blaster.. so amazing. Crazy how I can control my new LG SUHD with my IR blasterless Passport.
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
Wow, you must be an expert engineer as you've apparently managed to 1) get Android on your Passport and 2) build an IR blaster into your IR blasterless Passport. (If any of these statements is not true, then your comment was not related to the discussion and yet another attempt at trolling, obviously, but I'm giving you the benefit of doubt so feel free to show off some videos of your blaster and your Android Passport.)
It works through WiFi dufus... same result, different tech...
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
So you admit you were just trolling! Wonderful! (Otherwise feel free to explain how you can control an IR-based device via WLAN.Oh, and how you managed to get Android running on your Passport which you probably just forgot to post either.)
It's really unbelievable that something as dumb as you is capable of logging on to a website and post a comment.
ROTFLMAO... I don't have an IR blaster on my Passport you illiterate moron... I control my LG tv over WiFi with the LG Android app on my Passport. It works better than an IR blaster because I can actually pull up a tv guide, use the display on my phone to navigate the settings, etc. But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your good cry session and your reading comprehension issues.
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
No way, you don't have an IR blaster on your Passport and you're not running Android on it?! How's that even possible when we were talking about features other Android phones have? Oh, wait - it was JUST ANOTHER stupid troll post by the stupid mnhopelesscoach(-99).
Wow.. are you really this stupid? I never claimed i had an IR blaster on my Passport (hence the " IRblasterless Passport" comment) nor does it run Android... the OS anyways.. I do have some Android apps running on it... like the LG app that let's me control my tv with my IRblasterless Passport. Don't be mad bro that your reading comprehension sucks... spend less time here crying and more time with a tutor. Just sayin'
Posted via CB10 on my Silver Edition Passport... device of champions
I like cake.
Shhh, don't you dare to feed the MrHankeyCouch00 troll again!
Apps need to be on device storage for security. 16 GB didn't cut it for me, 32GB seems a good amount, but 64GB is just around the corner as a requirement.
Posted via CB10
Actually, it accepts up to a 2TB SDXC card!
Q10 has been a healthy supplement to my work | life balance. Posted via CB10.
Wonderful. Now all you'll need to do is two things: 1) Find a 2 TB microSD card and 2) install an app onto it.
F'in thank you for saying that and think it actually can take a 2tb memory card but can't buy it from in the US. Apple will never be able to top that even with they icloud lol
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
I don't think BlackBerry will ever be able to compete on specs with Android OEMs who have integrated component manufacturing like Samgung, LG, Sony, HTC, etc. That's why having a platform of their own like BB10 as a differentiator is so important. But, the design of the devices has always been awesome -- in my mind -- at least. Even the Priv has a good aesthetic and functionality design. I agree with it being non-competitive, though.
People need to realize BlackBerry 10 does not have the potential it had when it launched.
They should've stayed with BBX and not been quick to jump ship. Consistency is key and dropping it to join the already full pack of Androids showed doubt in the elves as a company.
As someone already said before in these comments here, their own OS WAS/IS their differentiation among the billion Androids already out there.
Oh well though... should've, would've, could've, right?
Posted via CB10
Dude, the PRIV is a Android device. Thats a totally different market.
@Blackberryfan777 I just said the same thing on a different thread that Blackberry died the day Chen came aboard. The Blackberry I loved. What's left is an abomination.
Whatever Chen is "saving" it isn't Blackberry. He's just a vampire feeding off a fetid dying bleeding corpse.
Z5 Premium - 6.0.1 - T-Mobile USA
... a BBomination!
Yeah, sure, he could have left some more meat on it and made a few different ch-oices...
:-D
• There's a Crack in the Berry right now... •
True
Posted via CB10
Maybe You Should Apply For A Job As CEO Of BlackBerry Seeing That You Seem To Know Something Chen & All Of Us Don't. Seriously Guys, Give JC A Break, If You Know Better,Take His Job, If You Can't, Put Up Or Shut Up!
Posted From My Priv In The Jungles Of Congo
So what I'm gathering here is that you'd rather BlackBerry had been run into the ground, bankrupt and out of existence, than maybe turning around?
Posted via Overheating Z10
No, I think the Board should have explored Thor's privatization option. A lot of the bad decisions Chen has made have been driven by the need to drive short-term results every quarter at the expense of long-term success. If privatization was just too expensive, it should have gone with Mike L's proposal, which may have involved partnering with Qualcomm to give BB10 a new home and best-in-class hardware.
I want to emphasize that the company wasn't near bankrupt when Thor left. And, Thor had predicted that launching and building the new platform would take years. Cuts were being made. The fact that Thor ordered too many Z10s is tough, but ordering too many Z10s is not nearly as bad as the very existence of the BlackBerry Priv.
Let me be very clear: There has been *no* turnaround of BlackBerry under John Chen. Even if BlackBerry becomes profitable this year, it still won't be a turnaround. BlackBerry was profitable under Thor just a couple of quarters before he left! Under Chen, the company has shrunk to a point of irrelevance. It's no longer competant in its core business. And, it's still reliant on BBOS service activation fees, which came primarily from the awesome work of Mike L and Thor, but which are only decreasing into the future.
If you are listed company CEO, your role is to cut losses and creating positive income to company . Apple design a product that majority want. Old Blackberry fans majority has switched to Android and IOS, we are the last fans still supporting BlackBerry but not enough critical mass to support company financially. John Chen does his best. If IOS and Android has huge users, only Android allow BlackBerry to build BlackBerry experience on Android. If we don't move to PRIV, BlackBerry have to exit device business.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
Are you being sarcastic? You do understand that the Priv was the worst selling flagship launch in recent memory. The transition to Android didn't grow sales, it shrunk them by a lot. Even worse, it transitioned a significant chunk of BlackBerry's high-end users away from the BlackBerry platform -- their next phone will probably be made by Samsung or LG as they are now Android users and Samsung and LG simply make better Android phones than Blackberry and always will.
To say that John Chen does his best, is probably true. But, I would suggest that John Chen's best is not nearly good enough. I couldn't understand why people around here wanted to sit back and let him ruin the company when he first came on, but at this point, he has transformed a struggling great company into a largely irrelevant, minor one that *still isn't profitable.* Where I come from there are a couple of big carrot farms that bring in more revenue than BlackBerry did last quarter under Chen. The guy is a disgrace and a very, very, very poor CEO. He and Prem need to apologize to the people who lost their jobs and the pensioners whose savings was lost and go sit in a little room to symbalize that the little company BlackBerry has become and talk about how smart they are. Meanwhile, Mike L is building the future and we're stuck with $700 Chen phones.
His task is to make company profitable. They are trying hard to make blackberry device with Android with extra security touch but blackberry supporters are not embracing the design and other phone lovers are adopting this secured phone. The new PRIV has creaking sound and the heat that drain the battery will be the failure else using the PRIV to replace BB10 is OK for me to continue to support BlackBerry.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
I wish the video would play on my Passport :-)
Rogers Blackberry Passport. BlackBerry Since 2006
Funny right lol? Ironically the ad played fine but no video.
Posted via CB10
Didn't play on Mozilla mobile or desktop, I had to use IE, lol.
Worked on my Sammy with Chrome.
~TheRealFixxxer
Played on my Sony Xperia using Dolphin Browser. Also works with Opera Mini.
*C5303
Same here. What add did you get?
:-D
• There's a Crack in the Berry right now... •
Played on my Priv just fine. :)
Posted via the PrivZilla!
Hi, I used Zeus to open the video with my Passport SE. It's all good.
Posted via CB10
I love BlackBerry, I wish them the best of luck
BlackBerry and HTC FTW!
Would be nice to watch a video about BlackBerry with a compatible link for BlackBerry's on a BlackBerry driven site. Just saying blaze. Probably not your fault but..
Posted via CB10
Download Zeus browser from BlackBerry World and you can watch the video on your whatever BB10 device you like.
Word. Good looking out!
Posted via CB10
You're right. Not my fault. It's clearly Bloomberg's video and not in my control lol. Sorry.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kB6chGFjwHg
Posted via CB10
Thanks for the link, I hope he's smoking the right stuff too...I guess we now know why he loves Cali so much.
I have no idea why you posted a link from 2015.
... at least the link works while clicking from my Passport. Lol.
It's a fiscal year...duh... of course it was 2015 ;-)
Damm Super Tube, it sounded to good to be true.
Ironically, the ad / commercial played fine, just not the meaty video afterwards ...
LOL
:-D
• There's a Crack in the Berry right now... •
I got one about some Italian noodle product they're trying to flog here in OZ... :-)
• There's a Crack in the Berry right now... •
Lol
Posted via CB10
+10.
Just an ironic fail. :-(
Posted via CB10 on my ClassicSQC100-1/10.3.2.2876
"Those that forget history are bound to repeat it."
I mention that quote because this is lining up to be the Z10/Q10 fiasco all over again. They really should release both devices at the same time if they don't believe in the PKB device enough to release it first.
You are so correct!! It will be interesting to see how much BlackBerry will be in the new all touch.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
All three 'droid phones should have been released together. People who hated the Priv are not gonna pay the slightest attention to the next model that trickles out.
Love Chen 's Persistence Too..Any Other CEO Would've Probably Given Up On The Hardware Business
Posted From My Priv In The Jungles Of Congo
Any other ceo wouldn't have self-sabotaged hardware in the first place
Posted via CB10
BlackBerry needs to understand that they are selling Passport, Leap and Classic because it's NOT Android, not because it's a BlackBerry.
That's the reason the PRIV sales were so low. A BlackBerry PRIV running BB10 wouldn't have sold worse than Passport or Leap.
Posted via CB10
I've been using a Priv for 3 weeks. Like the device; not impressed with Android, although I am impressed with what BlackBerry did to help this otherwise lacklustre platform. If BlackBerry offered a version of BB10 to replace Android on Priv, I would switch in a heartbeat. I had a Z10 for 3 years. I kept holding out for a Z30-like device with 32gb of memory on board. So I held my nose and went for Priv, hoping that someday (reasonably soon) it will resemble a real BlackBerry.
via CB App on BlackBerry Priv
From what I have heard (and seen), the Priv flopped due to heat issues, but a somewhat poor quality keyboard didn't help either. Otherwise, it was a sweet device.
My BlackBerry PRIV doing OK and start to learn to adapt it coming from BB10 but Marshmallow will ultimately using their latest blackberry service to warm up the device and battery is draining too fast. Somebody is not doing good job in releasing unstable software.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
$899 cdn for the priv. They screwed up and tried to sell an overpriced phone. That's why it didn't sell well.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
No. With BB10 on it I would pay even more!
Agree!!
Passport. The world's best phone.
The Priv failed because of the price not because it's an android, but you keep living in your BB10 fairytale land. I can't wait for more Droid phones by BB, I'M GONNA LOVE IT!
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
Nah, I would have paid full price for it, but I could not accept heat and battery drain issues.
... nor a huge step-down from my Passport keyboard.
Agree with u, the stupid blackberry service software now become #1 reason to drain the battery. Previously it was screen light up to drain.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
You can get Android from many others, why are you waiting for BlackBerry? To pay more just because of 3 additional apps? *LOL*
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