As most folks should know from all of the previous leaks in the past, BlackBerry often includes videos on devices as tools for help (how to insert SIM) and often to showcase features available (Time Shift) and it looks as though one of those videos has possibly escaped from the upcoming BlackBerry 'Venice' slider.
As posted up by @evleaks, the new video offers up another look at the slider keyboard as well, shows the camera components and offers a slight glimpse at the sliding mechanism. All in all, it's mostly stuff previously leaked, but as @evleaks put it, it's eye candy for sure. One odd thing that stands out, the video looks to show two devices next to each other. Maybe there's something to the rumors of it coming in an Android and BlackBerry 10 version.
Eye candy. pic.twitter.com/GtJwOfOus8
— Evan Blass (@evleaks) August 19, 2015UPDATE - Another video has been added, showing off the device opening. The Tweet associated with it should prevent some folks from screaming 'Photoshop' and 'Fake'.
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BlackBerry 'Venice' slider device demo video leaks out
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another bad decision. a slider should be the size of the classic. the keyboard should come from the side, not the bottom.
Is this Chen guy Google's version of Microsoft's Elop? Nokia clearly showed how it ends up to switch to an alien OS instead of properly supporting and loving own one. Does BlackBerry want to follow Nokia's fate?
Goodbye BB10 :(
I don't believe this device will sell that good Blackberry needs to upgrade the classic and a new all touch with today's standards.
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I think this is an android BlackBerry. Reason is because of the google services and the open handset alliance. Google doesn't let open handset members degrade android by dual booting another OS. If your not in the open handset alliance, you don't get google services. Blackberry cannot use google services unless it entered into the open handset alliance or it will get sued. Just my thoughts.
Haven't decided which BB to buy yet. Hope to win one !! My main complaint with my android phone ? It's now ancient, underpowered, slow as molasses, especially if you TOUCH the wrong app and oh yeah it can't be updated. It is a samsung galaxy appeal. Android 2.3. Never a high end model for sure. The only reason I have it ? It was a used, like new, nobody wants it ten dollar phone With a physical keyboard !!!! That's progress for a flip phone guy ! Almost made the switch to sprint when they came out with the BB style, but service where i travel blows and I'm granfathered on a cheap plan AT&T . . I keep eyeing the Classic, but if there's a slider coming......Christmas is coming Santa ! I've been good !
Hmmm. I need to be able to hold one before I buy. Sadly none of the stores around here have Passport in stock. Hoping for the day there would be a Blackberry store with all models including the rrumored venice in stock so I could feel them all ! For now it's web search to see what att store in the big city has them and a road trip.
I don't want a slider and I don't like Android, but I fully support BlackBerry building this phone in both BB10 and Android versions. From the comments on here it's clear there are some that really want an Android-powered BlackBerry, and others that won't touch one with a barge pole. If the same hardware can run both BB10 and Android, then it absolutely makes sense for BlackBerry to offer both versions if it increases sales and carrier support.
BlackBerry has managed to streamline their manufacturing process to the point where they aren't far off profitability on very low device sales numbers. Being able to load and sell a device with one of two operating systems totally fits with this philosophy and increase sales.
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BlackBerry Macadamia Nut Cookie.....mmmmm....if it launches not on M, i'd be happy with a BlackBerry Lollipop
A fan made render?
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I've read somewhere that this phone comes on 16th November. 17th November is my birthday!! Thank you BlackBerry for the perfect birthday present!!! XD
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I dunno about this. I had the POS 9800. I don;t think sliders are what people want or need. The Matrix was a while ago.
Can I please have a larger screen, updated to OS10 Torch! please!
If BB can increase the bottom line by selling phones which run android and continue to sell pure BB phones and update BB10, then I'm all for it. But for now I cannot imagine not using my Passport for as long as I can!
Please enlighten us on why the tweet should support the fact that these leaks are "real". I'm not convinced: even if whomever put these together did them with insider info, they're not "leaks" if they're not created BY BlackBerry or created with BlackBerry's direction. Perhaps it's fair to say that someone who is preparing the launch videos leaked some of what they're doing, but what STILL makes these "leaks" so fake is the absence of ANY BlackBerry apps on the screen: not even BBM, not BBM Protected, not Balance, not Blend, NOTHING, it makes no sense.
Now, when BlackBerry DOES start producing legitimate marketing materials and those renders STILL don't have any BlackBerry icons on the screen, well, just chalk THAT up to BlackBerry Marketing 101 Fail... I'm just holding out hope that BB Marketing wouldn't fail so severely, but I guess I shouldn't rule it out.
That latest update video of slider looks terrible, and cheap looking. I hope I am sooo wrong. Please Blackberry, dont spoil my long awaited berry
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All I want is an upgrade to the Z30. It's been about 2 years now...
I don't have a problem with sliders, or a BB phone running Android... just don't leave those who love the all-touchscreen interface out in the cold.
I am still hoping against hope that this is closer to the Z10 in size. 4.2 is a decent screen size, especially if the keyboard is in addition to that. That and full access to Google apps. Not that I love android apps, but it is that or apple for a lot of apps now. This device is my last hope.
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Dear BlackBerry please comes out from a rectangle shape design :-(
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We're doomed! Doomed I tell ye!
No more double typing...
The few pkb devotees out there are not running Android and are not losing sleep over Instagram not working on OS10.
Unless they release this on both OS's, Chen will have shown that he continues to not understand marketing.
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I would definitely buy a high end slider once it released, But with android OS, it doesnt make sense and i wont buy it, it either dual boot or 2 version andoid and BlackBerry but with 8 cores and a minimum of 3 GB Ram
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I see comments about a dual boot OS. What advantage does this give? So if you boot up Android, you have access to Android stuff? And if you boot up BB10, you have access to BB stuff? Would BB10 run using gestures and Android no? Just curious because I don't know how that works. With what I assume, it seems like a hassle. I'm personally on the fence of this Venice (don't like the name by the way) having Android or BB10 OS. I'm down with BB10 and love the functionality and security of it. BUT I do like the convenience of downloading a particular app on the spot. Especially for traveling, banking, sports, etc. BlackBerry World is decent but far from what many consumers are looking for. I say I'm on the fence but I'm definitely leaning towards BB10 because I'm loyal to what they are all about and my BB's have never let me down. BUT having access to so much more with Android is something to consider. I don't really know what the dual boot will prove. I also don't see BlackBerry benefiting making and Android AND BB10 phone. I guess to possibly get already Android users to cross over to BlackBerry?? Maybe? Seems to look like there's a pretty even split of people that like the idea of this slider with Android. Might be the smart move for BlackBerry financially but I'm hoping they have a surprise or two up their sleeves. Us BB users deserve it.
MY Z10
I don't see the point of dual-boot but offering the same hardware in both Android and BB10 definitely makes sense.
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I agree with mrabody on this... one hardware design w two OS versions... the top video also shows two devices side by side --maybe for the same reason...
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This device will sell 1000. No more than that.
Huge write-down is coming and will surely kill BlackBerry.
BlackBerry is out of mind, desperate, directionless.
This stupid thing finally kills BlackBerry.
We can only hope
Last straw
We don't know what BlackBerry has up its sleeve. Maybe they found a loop hole and have gotten android to run on top of qnx.
From my amazing z10,q5
Not and have access to the play store they don't
I don't know anyone that uses an Android for work How does this fit into Chen's Business centric model?
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There doesn't seem to be an icon for the hub...
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Unless this device is a high end android or blackberry phone than I can't see the masses switching back to blackberry. And I personally won't be swapping my two and half year old Z10 for a medium of the range phone. And if I wanted a android phone (which I don't) I would rather buy a high end phone with the full bells and whistles, Sony, Samsung, HTC and others do amazing android phones. Why would I buy a blackberry with a android OS. I don't get it.
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I see a market for it no matter what it comes with. I see some people happy or unhappy either way. Both have pro and cons. BB security and hardware can't be beat. The masses use android or iOS because they either don't know better or were never offered the choice from their carriers. Walk into a phone store and ask for bb. 9 out of 10 stores look at you like you're an alien. BB nearly vanished from consumer market (carriers ) until the z3, z10, z30,q5,q10, leap and the classic that is. What's that you say ? Many models to choose from all with a killer OS ? Wake up people . Stop being robots blindly following others robots or fruit baskets. Start being people again and research and COMPARE all the facts before you shell out the dough. I had to come back and edit all the typos out of this because my I-phablet screen blows ! Want a physical keyboard again !
It is so CUTE that BlackBerry thinks it is still relevant in the world and that it KNOWS it needs to ride the coattails of an actual mobile OS (Android) to get itself above 4% market share.
Good luck with that,
Owned, no. I wouldn't take one for free.
Used the extensively for long periods of time? Yes I have.
What I do for a living has no bearing on anything but it is tech. You cannot continue to lose 6BN per year and expect anything but to be irrelevant.
Neither of your questions make what I said wrong. BB is no longer relevant outside of their government contracts. How they have avoided being bought out is nothing short of a miracle, and I suspect those contracts play a role in that.
Personally, I have warmed up to idea of an Android OS on a BlackBerry device AS LONG AS WE STILL HAVE THE HUB. Ideally I'd love the option to switch between BB10 & Swiftkey keyboards but I'm ok with either. I think if the hub is omitted it'll be hard to separate it from all the other android hardware.
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Android on blackberry is a bad idea who's time has come.
Will there be a method to dump the android and bring back the berry?
But seriously I want to know about PIN messages.
If there is no PIN messaging, then at least no harm is done.
If the PIN messaging is hardware based, then it will still be okay, but...
If the PIN messaging is simply a software overlay like the hub, then all blackberry phones are reduced in value.
Spoofing an android app and the android system is child's play. If you have ever received a spoofed telemarketing call.. it was made with a malicious android app.
If PIN messages are an application on top of android, and not retrieved from the device itself, then it reduces PIN to any other android app, even for message recipients who receive a spoofed PIN message.
Overall, my stomach turns when I contemplate an android OS, sitting on a perfectly good blackberry.
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I have decided this is fake. It is probably close to what the slider does look like thou. You can tell it is fake by the way the still picture of the camera lens is just still and the creator just zooms out. So I'm guessing they are going to have a new OS that will have full android running with a supervisor controlling the BlackBerry Hub and blackberry apps. This is my guess.....and they will have a pure bb10 version maybe with a supervisor controlling Google play services.
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Great time to buy shares! They are obviously making this 'the launch' to decide the future of the business as far as handsets are concerned. Would rather BB10 over Android.
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Bb10 is all I would pay for.
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If this is to have any hope with BlackBerry users, there needs to be a BBOS version.
I get producing an Android one for increasing sales revenue, but you need to provide your current user base with hope on the inherent OS.
Also, would be nice if the BlackBerry OS version had the utility belt to set it apart - a la 'Blade' mockup seen elsewhere on the site.
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Another subject, folks:
I've just tried to connect to BlackBerry World via my PlayBook, but get message saying it's not available in my country, the UK....! Is anyone having the same problem with their PlayBook?
If BlackBerry has switched off BlackBerry World for PlayBook, they could do the same with BB10.
Rather worrying......
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Indeed.
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Venice the Menace!
I'm definitely buying this.
Will likely replace my Lumia 1520 than replace my main driver (Passport/Classic).
I've gotten so used to the Z30 touch keyboard (and I still think it's the best touch keyboard of ANY device) that while I like the idea of the BlackBerry/Android, I'd be thrilled if it came WITHOUT the slider. I just want the BlackBerry Hub instead of the junk that Apple and Android have put out for managing all of your accounts (and full Google services, of course). I also hope that I can still throw the phone across the room without blinking an eye (like I do with my Z30) just to prove a point to my Apple-using friends who wretch in horror while I giggle. I do it all the time.
Here's the deal:
Best to grab those 10.3.X bb10 leaks now and put in a safe place.
Once 10.4 drops for the new slider device (most likely won't be backward compatibility - new fork) they will be forced to remove the android run time on existing devices.
Recall that forced upgrade in North America? Be warned : "They" have the power to take it off your device regardless of your settings.
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It's Andrex operating system.
I'm down to Entertainment Exchange to trade in all my BlackBerry phones for an iPhone
PS. I support iPhones at work and hate them
Bye Bye BlackBerry you made me cry
Bye BlackBerry, BlackBerry bye bye.
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Will it have expandable storage and removable battery?
Posted via Z10 - 10.3.2.440
I want a slider keyboard for fast and accurate typing like I used for have with the Torch. But productivity won't be the same without the TouchPad and BlackBerry key to select and edit text. Still going to have to be screwing around with the screen.
They need the toolbelt. But I love the big touchscreen for other things. This could be the perfect phone if they gave it all the features of the Torch. A couple of convienece keys would be great too while you're at it.
And a physical camera on par with the LG G4 or better.
Z10STL100-3 /10.3.1.2576 / T-Mobile USA
This is way off topic but how do I change the "posted via CB10" line to my own custom line? Thanks in advance.
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PKB looks sub-standard or bogus.
It doesn't demonstrate anything. It just shows you the phone.
I hope for BlackBerry 10
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Bring it on!
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Bring what on Raj? A hole in the head? That has to be better than an Andrex OS
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Ok, I'm only going to say this once. So listen, and listen carefully. For all of us, most of us are hoping for BB10. I can see why, but for BlackBerry to take back SOME market share, Android is a good choice for joe schmoe because they're familiar with Android(most people aged 25 or older had at one point a BlackBerry) but now are on Android or iOS. Let them come back, to a powerful android powered blackberry with front facing speakers, 18mp camera(!!!), QHD screen, and a slide out keyboard for anyone out there that's nostalgic enough to want a keyboard again. I'm really hoping it's Android as my BlackBerry Classic isn't great for android apps because of Google Play issues or 1:1 screen ratio, or just how some apps take 10 seconds to load(Instagram, Spotify, etc), even SnapChat will wont work. So, bring out Android, Make this slider kick ass and we shall hopefully see many return back to BlackBerry if the marketing is done right! I wouldn't mind a Samsung Galaxy S6+ with a better camera(hopefully), front facing speakers and a slide out keyboard. I fully welcome it with open arms!
One of the only few comments that make sense! Exactly what I'm thinking too....
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sliders always seem flimsy to me...does seem like an outdated form factor...but I get the impression that some BlackBerry fans long for an updated slider.
Still think the Passport is the Best!
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It is technically possible to run dual OS. You never know. I would love to see if it's available with android and how exactly BlackBerry have managed to secure it. Looks like a stunning phone in any case.
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Dang I really want a non slider version of this device ugh. I'm extremely curious how well this android device is going to do.
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I'm hoping for an all BB10 version as well. I was so disappointed knowing it will be on Android. I'm still hopeful #FingersCrossed
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I hope this Slider Android has BlackBerry BB10 software running as background like business network firewall. If it does that, it set itself a part from the rest of Android phones. It'll sale more if the price is right around $450 - 550. BlackBerry marketing team, get the young ones line up and have them pumping/exciting their parents will follow!
FANK YOU ANDROID, U RUINED MY DREAM :@
Doesn't look very real to me
Keyboard been dead people are into all touch screens
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Just because a technology isn't widely used by the majority of society, doesn't mean it's dead. It will be ingesting to see how many Android BlackBerry's are sold to prove a point people still like keyboards. What choice do people have when buying a high quality Android phone with a keyboard? This might be a nitch market a lot of people have over looked.
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Remember, BlackBerry is now a software focused company, so why not sell a value added 'Android' OS version, e.g. buying the Venice slider comes standard with BB10 but then one can buy more software options, e.g. Android OS for another $5.99 or so. (Or it could be the other way round and you can buy BB10 for $4.99)
Of course, your email, contact, and calendar lists are fully compatible with either OS, whichever you choose to run.
As I mentioned before as Android will experience more serious(?) hacks in the future , one day people might consider the $4.99 a good investment by buying a secure OS. Google's data mining is not a big issue for many people but if their ID is compromised and then money is lost that might become a turning point.
Offering Android OS is good for BlackBerry's software business. Time will tell.
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Why wouldn't BlackBerry come out with two versions? Let's test the water, what one will be the better seller? This way it can be gauged how much a demand their is for BlackDroid devices. If BlackBerry sells half a mil Android phones and only a quarter mil BlackBerry OS phoones; it might be worth while to come out with another Android phone.
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If this comes in a pure BB10 flavor, I would consider staying with Verizon and getting it to replace my Z10.
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Omg I can't wait!!!
BlackBerry® Passport
So, Bla1ze, you have a history here at CrackBerry of being calm and rational and you continue to call these renders "leaks". I'm beginning to think that you know the content to be accurate, independent of whether they are actual BlackBerry documents or someone else's renders of what they also know to be true.
Most likely posted via CB10 from my amazing Z30, but may have been posted from my awesome PlayBook.
I think he's either smoking too much grass to see that the series of gifs string together isn't like a hands on phone movie filmed in real time. This looks like a fake, guy on here explained it better than me taking about the cascade key on the keyboard in one frame and it's missing in another.
I hope it's fake because this keyboard lacks a track pad and physical keys. And frets.
But I agree he must know that the real phone is going to look similar to this or he wouldn't be making fun of the people calling it a fake.
Z10STL100-3 /10.3.1.2576 / T-Mobile USA
What a waste.
This isn't a Blackberry. Its an Android phone playing dress up.
My really kickazz Z30
And what a nice dress she has on. Lol
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I do hope there'll be an all BB10 option.
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Am I really the only one that thinks producing a sliding phone in 2015 is stupid?? Though I hate the idea of it, for BlackBerry's sake, that phone better be an Android.
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There is the demand for having a large screen but also a keyboard but not have a stupid big phone. Touch screens are great for viewing media/documents but "personally" I think the keyboard is slightly better when creating media/documents.
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In watching the video I believe there is a shot showing not one but two devices. Could one simply be an all touch non-sliding device? Looks like they are showing and or comparing thickness of the two?
The White Knight-BlackBerry Passport
I hate to be another moaner, but I am going to be SOOOO disappointed if they don't release a BB10 version of this phone. If I want a damn android phone there are only about 10 others I can go to... I'm having flashbacks of that day some 10+ years ago when my beloved PalmPilot became extinct. The difference is that back then, the PDA's of the future were amazing! If BB10 becomes a thing of the past, there is nothing else out there to look forward to... (sheds a tear...)
The nicest device BlackBerry has ever come out with. And so far no evidence showing BB10 on it :(
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It looks the same as the renders to me :/
Also really hoping this is all bull as then I'm gonna have to switch to WindowsPhone10 and I really much prefer BlackBerry10 -.-
No Android for me
Praise be unto our Lord, Squircle | Passport SQW100-1/10.3.2.2339
Omg too cool! Best of both worlds! Keyboard and large touch screen.
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I never had a Torch but I am looking forward in getting one of these phones in my hands. I have a Q10 right now and I have to write up a lot of field reports in Word and do calculations in Excel. It gets a little exhausting how many times I have to pinch and zoom. I can't give up my keyboard so this is a happy medium.
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Seems like finally I will replace my Z10.
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Hope the battery will be better than the Z10.
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I can't wait to get this phone in my hands very excited
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That would be killer if their were Android and BB10 versions. Placate the BB masses and all that. I also think BB's version of Android would be spectacular.
BBOS10 rocks- Android sucks!
BlackBerry was known for security and privacy up to know, but with the Android-crap Blackberry becomes just another concubine of the data-whoremaster Google... Chen said, that "Security and privacy is the DNA of BlackBerry"... What DNA means? Do Now Android? Of cause Blackberry is able to increse the security of Android in the business section (BES), but the uncritical consumer gets googles datasucking system one to one in its BlackBerry. That said BlackBerry becomes a bitch which uses sometimes a rubber (in OS10) and sometimes not (Android). Lets see what kind of DNA this floozyberry will get "inside"...
I have no idea what you're trying to say.
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Yeah that rant started coherent and then it fizzled in to a confusion of words and maybe even thoughts, lol
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I stopped reading half way. I want my 15 sec of my life back that I wasted.
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His typing may be bad but his eloquence is perfect. Methinks that you guys don't want to accept the obvious truth he is shouting.
Lol. The PC brigade is "understanding no word" again. Lol.
Truth hurts right? Man up!
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What if Google is already part of BlackBerry DNA?
They silently invest into competing companies. After installing Google controlled CEO the company poses no threat to "G" anymore (for more details ask Marissa Mayer-Yahoo).
Additionally, IOT would perfectly fit into G's portfolio. They are spying people now, but they could spy things people use..
John Chen is a puppet. But who is the puppet master?
The only thing blackberry can do is a curve Z30 sucessor, keyboard is dead.
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The keyboard is dead? Why did Ryan Seacrest spend a million dollars trying to develop the typo keyboard? (aside that he's an idiot) because there is a demand. Why has Samsung come out with a keyboard for their phone? Because there is a demand.
Talk to people that used smart phones before iPhones. They probably all owned a BlackBerry at one point in time and a lot of those people still to this day like typing on a keyboard. My wife chose a keyboard over having the coolest app. I have typed on every glass keyboard out there and I still hang onto my Q10.
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Check sales, a total disgrace, passport sales are a joke.
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Passport sale are joke, because only few carriers in the world are selling them. This is a old truth of the mobile phone industry, no carrier support = no sales.
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Venice without keyboard please!
via Z30
Be nice if it was, as others have said, 'runtime perfected'.
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Just like the other guy said earlier, at least align the blue phone icon in the second rendered rendering.
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Yup. You noticed it too. It isn't aligned. So one of two things comes to mind:
Not made by BlackBerry or;
If made my BlackBerry it's a poor job
They laugh at me because I'm different; I laugh at them because they're all the same.
Totally agreed. And you would think they would at least include BBM in the screen
MY Z10
Well said people like @mandony
I'd love it if BlackBerry 10 was fully supported by developers, but it isn't.
I don't need 100% security. I've been running my banking apps, and a few others, on an Android phone, even although the z10 is my daily driver.
I do this cos the apps I want simply aren't available for, nor do they run on, BlackBerry 10.
I run a BlackBerry and an Android because I'm a geek. It's not an ideal solution.
And having thought about it, if a nice BlackBerry comes along that runs Android, I'd consider it.
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Stopped reading your post when you said you don't need 100 percent security. Sorry! That makes no sense to me. What if your bank said the same thing to their customers?
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That already have yeast ago supporting iPhones and Android without even looking into security threats. That is where the hate against BlackBerry started just as BB10 began being released.
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Crackberry going down hill now there making fake videos hahahaha
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Did you read the article?
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Be nice if this were a dual boot OS.
Nothing really compares with BB10, though.
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No! It's not really video, which is actually made of pictures. But who knows whether these pictures are ture or not. What a shame! Delete this so low post plz.
From the cutest Q10
I also hope it becomes a dual boot design. Blackberry running os 10 or bb running pure android. :-)
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That would actually be pretty cool.you could also add in the technology BlackBerry has to have two phone numbers for one sim card (or dual sim cards) too.
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if its runs bb10 then I want one
Looks pretty good; hope it comes with the BB10, and not Android...
Definitely think it runs android on top of QNX, as to how they secured it. lol
These are not the hypervisors you are looking for
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I like the sym button vs the Passport's keyboard.
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What's "BlackBerry" about this phone if they run an Android OS?
MY Z10
Skinned to look, operate and feel like android, OR runtime running on top of QNX, only massively perfected? Seems we were beta testing lt all along. xD
I'd prefer if it was heavily modified Android, skinned to look and feel like bb10, but with Google support.
It wouldn't be my ideal world scenario, by the way, but it'd be better than an unsupported OS.
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I share your view. I'd prefer bb10 but if BlackBerry is going to run an android and dump bb10, it better look and feel like bb10 or I'm done with BlackBerry. I've said this before but here it comes again. I bought my FIRST BlackBerry ever about 2 years ago to get the heck away from Google. I'm not happy about the idea of losing os10. I like the look, the flow, the keyboards, the hub etc etc. I don't miss android at all. Sure I've had to use a few android apps, but I'll always look in BlackBerry World first and I'll use amazon over snap if I can just to avoid Google. I've never had a pkb phone so I guess I don't know what I'm missing. The vkb on my z30 blows any android I've ever used out of the water. So many great things I've come to really like about this phone that would be potentially gone. The way I can customize ring tones for each contact, without an app. The way you handle email, the freaking battery life. I don't need to do spread sheets or any of that stuff. But it's nice to know I could lol. My only complaint here is lack of native apps, but I'm not a huge app user anyway. So to finish up, if this slider comes with android, and it doesn't make me feel like it's bb10 then it's of no use to me. If I can't get the user experience I like on a BlackBerry android then I might as well buy an HTC or an LG. If there's nothing special about the Venice other than a pkb I likely won't use, then what's the point?
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What this ^ man said.
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Hope it's the latter: runtime perfected.
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The Slider will stand out where all the other Android devices do not, and believe me: Many people have been waiting for an Android keyboard device for years now after the huge success of the Droid 1 and its successors.
Manufacturers always said "Market research says people prefer touch only devices". That's not entirely true! Customers were always pissed off that every qwerty slider had less high end hardware and a smaller screen than other flagships! It always was some kind of compromise.
But now BlackBerry finally does it right! High end, big screen, great keyboard.
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I guess you are not aware of the keyboard slipon for galaxy s phones that was announced about a week ago....
I'm all for this slider phone as i was on the verge of getting a galaxy s6 edge in recent weeks. But now, i think I'll wait since i really didn't want to give up on blackberry but more and more developers are abandoning it every week and it's very frustrating not being able to use my apps when i need them...
I don't think they should have 2 separate phones for each os since i doubt the bb10 will sell better than the android...they should market it as a dual os phone and really push the features in every way possible.
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Is that a carbon fibre glass weaved back? :D :D
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Looks so clean.
Posted with my Passport.
I like syncing with Outlook among other things. I don't want Google reading my calendar and getting rich off my personal information.
Very good point.
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This is an interesting track for blackberry to take. I wonder if the carriers will choose which os they want to market. I am curious as to how many android users would be interested in a BlackBerry running android. I still think the Passport is a better fit for me, but I am liking the Venice more and more. Hopefully more information comes along soon. I would love to see specs. I am curious about the width of the keyboard. If the width of the keyboard is like the Q10 that would pretty hard to pass up.
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I agree.
Here is my question if BlackBerry has decided to put its eggs in the Android basket and if the Slider does in fact run pure android with Google :play. What happens to the Passport owners would they get upgraded to Android the phone is more than capable of handling Android spec wise speaking. Or would BlackBerry leave the BlackBerry users who have stood by for all these years out in the cold. Because if BlackBerry thinks that all of its users would automatically upgrade to this device when it comes up I think they would be mistaken as there would be no reason for BlackBerry user to stick with the hardware. Unless you really need a keyboard. I hope they continue to develop BB10 and maybe all these renders are just hoax put on by BlackBerry. I guess we will have to wait and see.
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I see it as rumours until confirmed by blackberry.
You mean, like the PlayBook? There is your answer.
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Good point, well said.
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Who the hell wants a slider I want a z40 running BB10 not android
Hell yeah !!!!!!
I'm with you 100% there !!!
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+100
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"Who the he'll wants a slider?" Dude, check the thread on which you write. There are many who want the slider.
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Android is crap I really hope blackberry will stick to bb10 os and expand the app world if they did that so many more people would actually switch to blackberry
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I told the reps (kids) in the phone store about the venice today, and they googled it. They were confused as to why anyone would would want it other than 'retro' appeal. That doesn't bode well for capturing more market sure.
Don't get me wrong, I am not commenting on whether the Venice, sexy/ugly, unbalance/wonderful, etc. Just an observation.
This phone is beautiful. I will be jumping to a new phone in January and this one will be one of my choices to choose from for sure!
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So don't want Android
Tim Smith from my Z10 on Rogers
This all is starting to piss me off.
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Why?
Looks fake to me
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I can't wait to get back on BlackBerry, be it with the android slider, classic or something else. Waiting for this to be released or at least officially announced and the device plans Announced.
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I really don't know if these are fakes or not, but I do know a handful of graphic artists and 3d artists, that could throw together these renders and videos in an hour or two tops. So I am not sure why some people are saying these must come from Blackberry HQ, or why they couldn't be fakes. On the other hand, you know the saying, "WHere there is smoke...."
@srb151 - you raise a good point about almost all Android manufacturers abandoning support for their phones post sale, but
that is only part of the equation. But at least those devices have there apps kept up to date. If Blackberry stops pushing BB10, the few devs left on it will say good bye.
I'm not quite sure why everyone thinks that just having android will cause this to sell in droves.
BB10 was my first blackberry, and oddly, support was my biggestconcern. After several poorly
supported, never upgraded Samsung phones, I was looking for something which the manufacturer
would support after I bought it. Once Samsung sells the phone, they're done. Want an os upgrade,
buy the next model. Security patch? Maybe, depends on if we feel like it. Is Blackberry going to be
the first (outside of the "nexus" phones, to release upgrades to older phones? Since BB can afford
to market their phones, how are they going to keep pace with the hardware release schedule of the
competition? There's a lot more to this then loading a different os into it. Since the public at large
doesn't mind the issues I've been bothered by, maybe it will succeed. If so, more power to them.
Without branding, this could be marketed as the "Un-Berry"..
I want a BB Android but without that annoying keyboard... Also, there is no point making an Android if its using the same lame Android launcher. Another pathetic move from BB...
No Android on BB. No way, OS 10 is the best mobile OS on the market. Android is silly, poor design, unsafe and googl'ished. Blackberry and Android are 2 words that should never walk together...
CB10 + Z30.
+1
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I'm hoping for bb10 version too been waiting for this phone for awhile but won't get it if it's android..
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Sexy!
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Boring........ Let me know when you have actual video of the real phone
Where is my Z50, BlackBerry?
BB10 is fine, but becoming boring. I think Android will add something that's missing.
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Please don't replaced BB10 with crapoid. Productivity is just awesome and I have all the apps I need. Why change that...
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Imagine if BlackBerry actually spend some money on advertising this device. I still don't get why BlackBerry doesn't advertise much if at all. Got to spend to make
Passport. The world's best phone. Try one.
This update doesn't stop me from thinking it's fake why didn't he post both at the same time why did he hold out and wait to be called out? Sounds like scrambling to me.
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yes, because evleaks has a horrible reputation for releasing wrong info... clearly it's all of a bigger plan.. calm down.
I want a BB10 slider. On Verizon so I can call people from my house with it. Thank you.
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Ha ha. This article and the second @evleaks leak are both directed at me, lol.
It won't stop me from yelling "Fake"! Those two back-to-back leaks have a slightly different keyboard. Significant? Only if you think having a Cascades UI component on your "0" key is important...
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Yeah saw that pointed out on twitter. And a series of pics strung together isn't video if you ask me.
Maybe I'm hoping it is fake because the keyboard shown isn't close to a good 9900.
Z10STL100-3 /10.3.1.2576 / T-Mobile USA
Wonder why there is no BBM icon on the screen, even if it IS android, shouldn't BlackBerry be have some presence regarding their most known asset?
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Completely AGREE!! It's actually very suspicious that there is NO BlackBerry presence on the screen at all. Aside from the logo at top. VERY strange
MY Z10
If or when I decide to switch from my Passport to an Android it won't be this device, I would rather go for the new Note, but this is not intended for BB10 fans like myself, it is intended for existing Android users who want or need a keyboard. Good luck BlackBerry, your gonna need it :-O.
IMO I like the keyboard on the Bold and the Classic - It has 'dimpled' edges. I'm not sure I like this one as it looks a bit flat. Don't get me wrong, I really like/want this phone though. Anyone else have any thoughts on the KB?
As a side note...I don't care if it runs BB10 or Android. I'm good either way. The only thing I use that is critical is Google Maps but Waze works perfectly fine for me. Just curious, what other Android apps do people need to use?
I would like a keyboard like the 9900. The curve plus the frets. And the TouchPad so fingers never have to leave the keyboard and you could select text. I've waited so long for a slider. Maybe whoever built this never typed on a Torch. Having to use the touchscreen to select, copy and paste just sucks.
Z10STL100-3 /10.3.1.2576 / T-Mobile USA
If the pkb is capacitive like the one on the Passport, maybe that would be as good or better than a track pad.
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No, it won't, but it'll have to do.
Man, I am torn, should I get the BB10 or the Android version? I am perfectly fine with BB10, but my worry is with Android release, there will be less updates to BB10 apps?
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I believe they are going to be the same hardware, and hopefully that means you'll be able to switch platforms, even if it does mean losing all your data (i.e. no way to "restore a BB10 backup onto an Android device" but who knows)
I still think the BB10 OS is the way to go. There are just a few apps that would be great to have. That we can get but can not or are hard to get to use with no Google play services. Security and aiming at Enterprises/ corporate is great but we need something that will make the average consumer question why they would even want to look at anything other then a blackberry.
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Maybe showing the 2 together one open and one close for the height
I'm looking forward to this device.
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Wowowow.
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Yay it has dual LED flash!
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Looks awesome
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BB10 Slider sales + Android Slider sales = sustainable BlackBerry device volumes?
This is what I'm hoping for, and I would look hard at an Android BlackBerry if the UI approaches that of BB10. As I am not an Enterprise IT manager, I have the luxury of deciding how much security is sufficient for my needs. I love BB10, but will keep an open mind so long as I don't have to touch a damned "Home" button every time I want to switch tasks! That would be a deal breaker for me.
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You're thinking of iOS. Android has the app drawer button for app switching. It's a pain in the arse either way.
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The app drawer shortcut is the round with 6 dots icon on the homescreen app dock. The recent apps/app switcher is the square software button at the bottom of the screen and available in every app.
...but almost every single Android device produced by Samsung, including the single best selling Android device line (the Galaxy S series) has a home button. Some people want to have it, even if on BB10 it's not necessary, a device with a home button may sell better than those without.
Am i the only one that notices there are no BlackBerry apps on the device, no BlackBerry world, no BBM, no BBM Meetings. Kinda seems strange.
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It might just be to explicitly demonstrate the Android ecosystem.
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Chen said he is an avid reader of Crackberry and I imagine a is most blackberry employees. So it could be leaked as a rendering to get feedback from the loyal blackberry community.
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AAAAAH! SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!
I'd love for them to release a passport running an Android OS build. There are a few apps that rely on Google Play Services that I haven't been able to side load fully functional versions as yet. I like the slider concept, but I don't think I'd be able to adjust back to any other physical keyboard. Damn you Passport SE!
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Nothing equals BlackBerry OS, Android OS is just junk
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Can't wait!
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Blackberry relies on leaks for hype, too bad it doesn't work.
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Lol it's working.
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Anyone else notice in the second video the phone icon (blue; bottom left) overhangs on the side of the phone? If this was an official BlackBerry demo video it's done poorly.
They laugh at me because I'm different; I laugh at them because they're all the same.
Nah it looks legit; it's in line with the Chrome icon.
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Mine tot slider is BlackBerry OS and enable operation android APK files . BlackBerry is not diversion of OS. BlackBerry is proofing that BlackBerry OS is enable
Compatible android APK files.
Z10/STL100-2. OS2339
Need it.
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If the veniice comes with bb10, I'll be extatic
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*drool*
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Another fan boy. Don't get your arse- hurt.
[B]Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.2339 [/B] CB10
cool
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Man if there's two versions I have no idea what to do. #New Dilemma.
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BlackBerry should really only make 2 phones per year : 1- BlackBerry Business BB10 OS #2- BlackBerry Consumer Android OS... keep it simple... but available for all...
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Damn this phone is drop dead gorgeous!! My heart is fluttering like the first time I saw the storm 9530 way back in 2008.
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My everything is fluttering!
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You got two words right... 'drop' it and it's 'dead' ... Sliders are notoriously brittle.
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Will there be a white version?????
Apparently - according to the rumors and voice - white and black, just like the Z30... :-)
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I want it in White
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Omg I need it take my money
BB Z30 STA100-5
Are you buying both versions? ;-)
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That depends on whether the Android runtime on BlackBerry 10 actually removes all barriers preventing Google Play Services from being installed.
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What would be great if the other device was an all touch phone.
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It looks awesome... in real life LOL! I so want one!
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Anticipation builds
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Well fair enough. Who knows. I just hope this device doesn't spell the beginning of the end for BB10. If this came also with the choice of an all-touch version, it would have been awesome and I might have even been tempted. But I just got my BlackBerry Leap and am quite pleased with it.
Having said all that...I hope this does become a top seller for BlackBerry...if nothing else to remind people of what they are missing and that their choices need not be so narrow as to be divided between Samsung Android and the iPhone ...
Cartman says: Screw you guys I'm going home!
If this really does come with BB OS, I'll definitely consider getting one.
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I am hope for the BB10 version...pleease.
Oh yeah that's the stuff Blaze!!
Sweeet!
Q10 on 10.3.2.2204
Maybe it will be bb10 running off the supervisor
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I have two Android devices. Android frustrates me. I know BB10 doesn't have all the cool apps, but I much prefer it as an OS. I also have an old BlackBerry Torch in a drawer somewhere. I thought I would like a slider then, but ended up hating that phone.
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Indeed! And if they released a version for BB10, then the experience is limited with the restrictions of Google for BB to release an Android version. Rather than investing to BlackBerry solely for a daily drive device, I would get a cheap BB10 phone (where I don't need to run android apps) for work and something like iPhone (that apps would work smoothly) for play. Clearly Android is not a solution for BlackBerry 10 users!
The only way this is not directly from BlackBerry is if it were an entire demo video. But these renders, pictures, and videos must come from BlackBerry and as such, controlled bits of info for the sole purpose of creating a buzz. It's the same with every "leak" until the eventual official release. Just sit back and wait as BlackBerry.
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Another render from the same render from the render we saw before which we also see 2 months ago on n4BB and finally captured these pics in a slide zoom in party clip of 23 seconds. Who gives a........!
I also lke to move on as some customers doing, believing BlackBerry with Android is like buying an S6 or S5 with android but better specs than the leak :)
So why another BlackBerry and waiting for another playbook support disaster from BlackBerry a good client told me and move away from BlackBerry after 8 years.
I say move on and in my opinion that android news was free chatty talk about BlackBerry but it's damaging them since a few weeks.
So get on with the news and move on to your goals and project and les us know and your customers what will be happening with BB10.
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Have you been drinking again?
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Not swaying me from my passport!
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I would say it's not dual OS it's insinuating, but a slider and not slider version for those "keyboards r evil" and I bet not ALL carriers will carry both- so expect the community to be halved again.
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Do we know if the physical keyboard is capacitive like that of the Passport?
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It looks like a promo video that they sent to the carriers
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Looks like a crappy video made of pictures of a render is all.
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And what's that button on the left hand side for? Hmmm...
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The exploded view the camera looks like a super cheap PowerPoint animation.
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Omg did I see glass weave on the front and back I'm crine
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Lol lots of denial on this site
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Lots of arse-hurt BB10 fanboys nowadays. :D
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With good reason. BB10 flopped hard. Time for BBRY to move on to Android.
You guys will be screaming fake all the way till the launch.
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Pretty much. It's identical to just about every other demo video put out by BlackBerry, but you know.. FAKE!! These were FAKE back in the day too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clii5JiRarI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j-WpNrS3ys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awhoJpIgwd0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j16nJ68KQ04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DArzq5N5P64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuiZmcR1Qhk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1A46ocd6d4
Even if it was fake, most of the common design elements are there, so it will likely be very close anyway, lol.... :-)
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So now, Bla1ze, can you please show us the video with the BB10 version ;-) ?
We saw the slider pictures with bb10 on it in the other thread.
Let's get a better view of it so that everyone is happy.
http://www.google.ca/search?q=BlackBerry+stv-100+pictures
Actually, that's kind of the point. There hasn't been any leaks with a BB10 version. They've ALL been running Android. If a BB10 version exists, one would assume it would have also appeared by now but it hasn't.
It really makes you wonder, how much smoke does one need to see before he actually believes that there may be a fire causing it? In other words, too much leaked info is identifying the slider as being Android for it to be anything but Android. I only hope that the BlackBerry Experience Suite delivers. A BlackBerry with Android and no BlackBerry Experience Suite would be garbage. Conversely, we'll executed BlackBerry Experience Suite and the keyboard could seriously shake up the Android world.
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Well executed...le sigh at autocorrect.
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You will see that BlackBerry Experience Suite on Android falls short. People saying "If hub and keyboard is there it will be fine" are deluding themselves. The experience of flow is baked deep in the BB10 - multitasking, ability to call functions of other app from within app, gesture based UX, consistency of having Cascades UI in all apps...
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I'm not expecting peek and flow. Being that I use every platform, I'm well aware of how crappy Android is really. With that said, as sad as I'll be to see BlackBerry 10 go, if BlackBerry as a *hardware* and software company survives there is still some hope for a better experience and better things to come in general. As it stands right now, BlackBerry 10 is dead and it is dragging BlackBerry underground with it.
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That would make me sad. I'm using an Android phone as I gave my dad my passport when his Bold died and he needed buttons. And I'm hating every minute of being here. Yes, the camera surpasses (LG G4) my passport but everything else about using the phone is blinking archaic and has just been polished and made to look pretty since cupcake on my HTC hero back in the day.
If this comes out as Android only I think it's going to lose a lot of current blackberry users and from the ridicule I have received for using a blackberry over the last year or so from Android and ios users I think the blackberry brand has gone too far out of favour to pull anyone in the market for a high end smartphone away from the Galaxy S6+ / soon to be new iPhone 6s with this phone, I think they'd need to offer and bb10 and Android version of the phone to appease the blackberry os faithful and try and pull in Android users that want a keyboard. Then, if it works and they get increased market... Next year just an android phone if that's the way they want to go.
Doom and gloom monger yes, but this phone could be the death of blackberry hardware if Android. :(
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It's already heading towards that without Androids help.
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