The BlackBerry Venice has been the talk of the town for quite some time already, and now new images have surfaced showing off even more of the phone. As our first decent look at the operating system it will run, it resembles a very stock Android style, with custom icons. Additionally, there seem to be some extra shortcuts that pop up with the long-press of the home button, which usually brings up Google's app.
The menu looks very similar to Samsung's current Android menu's, with the options broken down by category. When it comes to specs, the rumored stuff all seems to line up meaning there's a Snapdragon 808 processor in the device, 3GB of RAM as well as an 18MP camera with a 5.4-inch display. One interesting tidbit, which we've heard before and gets noted here is that when the phone boots up, you'll see an image of a bugdroid holding up a shield. Alluding to the secure Android backstory BlackBerry may tell when the device goes official.
Previous rumors have called for the device to be released at some point in November, but as of right now BlackBerry has still yet to make any official announcements or even admit the devices existence, though it is expected they'll be making an announcement soon as their Q2 Fiscal 2016 earnings report takes place on September 25th.
Source: Android Authority
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BlackBerry Venice gets a hands-on treatment, shows off customization and more
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Thanks but no thanks. Looks like your run-of-the-mill Samsung-like smartphone. I'll hold on to my PP.
Well.... Where is the pint to have BlackBerry if it runs on Android? I will stick with my Z30
A lot of strong emotions here. I like BlackBerry and don't want to put up with Android but it is not the end of the world. In fact, I think that the windows 10 might mature into what the pre BB10 offered. Real useable integration. Unfortunately they like the Big Brother approach that every one else uses.
Take a deep breath and let it out slowly..... 20 years ago few could imagine what you are using today, in 10 years it will be useless. Just wait a while, this too shall pass.
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It better be bb10 WTF!!!!!
Z30 and BlackBerry Classic. 2C1A0A3A
I'm definitely getting this android powered phone, especially when it comes to T-Mobile.
Posted via CB10
I have to say that what this Blackberry is showing is impressive. Tons of questions still to be answered - HAPPY they gave the full keyboard with the touch capacity (sorry, but going back and forth between keys and screen on the Passport isn't the best). Will Blackberry's virtual keyboard be available when the keyboard is closed? Like others, I hope they manage to integrate a lot of what they've already got on BB10, and perhaps even release a dual-boot as an option. The last thing they need is a fingerprint reader to ease login security. They've managed to hit almost everything else I was looking for in this one!
Blackberry should release two versions of this phone - an upscale 'silver edition' style phone for the productivity-oriented folks and running native BB10 OS, with full BB-secured Android App capability as a paid subscription based add-on) and a lower cost 'Leap' style unit running BB-secured Android as a native OS, which would also be a paid subscription service. Eventually they could roll out the BB-secured Android App capability to all their BB10 devices. If they are going to secure Android as John Chen as suggesting, I hope they are at least planning to make some money from it.
I can see the multiple active screens. Nice, they included this from bb10 os. I'm interested.
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I can see the multiple active screens. Nice, they included this from bb10 os. I'm interested.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
Reason number 254 for staying away from Android:
To hack an Android phone, just type in a really long password
http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/16/technology/android-hack/index.html?sr=tw...
Posted via CB10
Wow. People really take this to heart lol.
Blackberry has agreements with suppliers, that's why they can't just up and build a fancy new phone until they get rid of whatever components their suppliers have in stock as per the agreements. It's not so easy to terminate contracts as large as supplier agreements, as there are penalties and things of that nature to deal with.
These phones are not even in their final iterations, so it will take time before we see the version that will hit the market. So much speculation on here...
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I will buy one today, if and when it's ever released????? I just hope they don't drag their feet launching the device like they have done in the past. I know a lot of the faithful hate Android, but as long as Blackberry incorporates some of the OS10 features like the Hub and peak and some security features into the device, I am all in. I think it's a smart move going to an Android based OS considering the majority of the market uses it anyways, when in Rome, do as the romans do!!!
I am really excited about this device. This may just be the real game changer for BlackBerry. I will wait for this.
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I am really curious how many people do you know(personally) including yourselves that got hacked trough their phones in this life.
So many complains about the security and privacy around here that I started to believe that all of you are CEO's
Talking about privacy when you install app's from amazon and 1mobile is like you declare yourself vegetarian while home you eat meat.
Your phones are simple devices(blackberry). Phone tracking and recorded calls or messages can be done with ease by your data providers.
The only one thing your phones can do actually is keeping your passwords from (mail and other accounts safe) so long you don't use theme on other devices 'like a laptop.
Hypocrisy to the next level. This is what I read on CB every single day.
If you buy a blackberry is either cause you love the brand , the OS fluency either the physical keyboard.
The rest is just a false idea .
And remember, John Chen was not hired to give you hardware devices every 6 months, he was hired to revive a company which was going bankrupt with all of it's departments. The hardware department is not earning even 10% of the company's income, And will never do , so stop complaining so much about it.
Ah and I almost forgot.
Also here on CB I read every day negative comments and insults about apple or samsung fans that they buy what ever comes new on the market like sheep herd
Well, isn't a funny how all of you just freshly(under 1 year) bought a passport (which is the "best device on the planet") but you want to buy a slider so much ? ?
How come!?! I thought that blackberry users are different than the others.
Again! Hypocrisy to it's finest...
Have a good day all of you.
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Fart sound
"Once You Go Black You Never Go Back"
So many will be spreading F.U.D. (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) about QNX aka! BlackBerry 10/BB10 not existing on anymore devices, then BlackBerry will debunk it again and say "YOU WERE WRONG AGAIN!!" and come out with another QNX powered device within another year. Just you watch.
Typed using my BlackBerry Classic running 10.3.2 on WINDmobile HSPA+
It looks very sleak!
Typed using my BlackBerry Classic running 10.3.2 on WINDmobile HSPA+
Can someone please tell me if this phone has Google Play Services built in the phone.
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I want it. I miss BlackBerry and their keyboards
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My hate for Google is quite deep - I will never use any proprietary software by that company. They take enough without my permission and I certainly won't willingly give them a thing. I'm not a fan of Apple either but I think i'll have to go back to iOS the lesser of the two evils :(
BB10 we hardly knew ya.
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R.I.P BlackBerry. It'll end up the same way as Nokia.
RIP FUD, it'll end up like DUF.
Typed using my BlackBerry Classic running 10.3.2 on WINDmobile HSPA+
BlackBerry phones don't sell because people don't know they are out there! I buy blackberry because I know it's there and because I love it! And I look for it! People buy samsung because samsung tells them too! With their 50 commercial spots a day! Same as apple phones! In my opinion I don't think people know why they buy the phone they buy, I think they buy what's popular or hip! And what's hip and popular? What's you see most of on TV in commercials! For the most part people are ignorant when it comes to knowing what a good phone is!
Posted via CB10
I think they need an all touch version a passport version.
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Problem is I think my hands have genuinely been spoiled with the width of Passport and this will seem too small to type on comfortably, like a bit cramped... DOH!
Just take my money already! I want the phone but It would be very hard to want that crappy OS if it is anything like my Samsung work phone POS, I hate that phone and how it is setup.
Done on BlackBerry Classic, Rip Z10
I have a feeling there is no hub, was reading I think on phonearena that the swipe up that replaces Google now, is for a local search, and create a message, and the windows with different sizes are apparently the apps that have been used frequently. Plus the short cuts, which are in addition to widgets, usually not found on an android device, are several actions that can be placed on the home screen, why do u need these if there was a hub?
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I got to see/touch the Venice slider today! It was not powered up but man O man the slider aspect is butter smooth. You slide it about 3/4 of the way and a spring type mechanism opens it fully! Felt very balanced to hold with the slider open or closed. Too bad about the OS though. :(
Venice is gone from the blackberry forum. ThanX CB
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Looking at this I believe that Chen must have fired his stellar design team and let Samsung do the work instead.
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Mr. Jarred Dipane. You don't have to press the home key when you don't have a physical home key. You just swipe up. So, looking at things you would swipe up then right to get to the hub which is awsome because that's how BB10 works. Thanks for the article
No gesture control like bb10? Totally not worthy
Posted via CB10
So... Can we expect BB Launcher or BB ROM for droids?
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
Just thinking.... With this phone coming out on Sprint I think I'll finally stop carrying 2 phones. Android on a BlackBerry phone is enough for me.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
Rip BlackBerry, what do I need a BlackBerry for now? Running Android? I will sell my z10 and buy and Android
Posted via CB10
Ummmmm...I can't express how excited I am to have this phone in my hands. I love BB10 OS but hate not having a few apps that I want. Looking forward to secure android and BlackBerry teamed up.
Posted via CB10
That looks like a smudged out "Verison" logo on the back of the device ?
Does it have hub? this is the most major thing i concern about.
If it doesn't contains blackberry hub, i will move back to iPhone, tired of the laggy Android apps on BB10
Blackberry HUB? If not I won't even look at it
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I was going to get another BlackBerry phone when a new one comes out but it won't happen if this is what they will release, with an Android OS. I love BB10 ; it's the reason I'm still with BlackBerry. So if they ditch the software, then they've lost another customer. I'd rather get the Sony Android phone if I had wanted Android. Sony's Z series looks a lot better.
Posted using my Passport
I have the Sony experia z3 and it sucks. Only thing it dies better the BlackBerry is pics and running Android apps. Loaded with Bloatware and Android OS is crappy compared to bb10
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The hardware looks awesome! I do like the look of the S6 Edge as well. BUT... I do not like Android OS, I would not of gotten a BB10 device if I liked Android. So, now BB as gone Android, this is just weird. I really hope they give BB10 lovers/users an option for BB10. This is my opinion
I'm in..no doubt.
Swiped from my Z30 /10.3.2
The slider that first appeared on mobile world congress was like a screen size as same as z10 with physical keyboards as of q10's,,but in images that came after it is looking very bulky or maybe the exact image of the phone is still not here,i was excited about it first but it's not that appealing as I supposed it was going to be,,i'll wait for android running classic 2,if it's end of bb10,, a 4 inch touch screen with same keyboard and toolbelt as classic,that would be nice and interesting
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Not for me, I guess I'm done with BlackBerry now :'-(
No need to be so melodramatic, BB10 devices will still exist.
You don't have to get this particular device.
There still will be options.
Swiped from my Z30 /10.3.2
No, there won't be new BB10 devices and the old ones will be abandoned as the playBook was, or maybe some, like the Passport, will be converted to Android.
Proof? Or FUD?
Typed using my BlackBerry Classic running 10.3.2 on WINDmobile HSPA+
I'm hoping you're right.
I want BB10 on my next generation device as well.
But those of us that lived through the PlayBook find it hard to be as optimistic as you.
Frosty White Q10/10.3.2.2639 CB10
May be BlackBerry found a way to make Android secure.
But can BlackBerry fully guarantee BlackBerry users' privacy while using Android (co)powered BlackBerry?
●"The vision that I set out to do is to get ourselves very focused on enterprise, on professional users, and on security and privacy protections." John Chen, CEO BlackBerry, May 29, 2015●
Not hands on, just a bunch of pictures.
The one reason why we switch to blackberry is because of the BB10 os. And now they put android on top of it. What the hell!
Blackberry Classic
Why oh why did it have to run android????? I am so not interested in it and I hope that this isn't a prelude to BlackBerry's future intentions.
i can already feel my stomach churning just looking at how much i will have to adjust with the downgrade from BB10 to Android. tap tap tappity tap for dayssss versus the swipe tap efficiency on the BB10. i mean even if they release a BB10 version of this, that grapevine buzz on what happened to the BB10 dev team is really hard to ignore. and as one who doesnt change devices too often, consistent, continuous support as my phone gets older is really important to me and my family.
i hope that as soon as this is officially released, Crackberry staff can get their hands on it and post a comparative review on how this Droidberry stacks up against BB10.
Could John Chen just not bought his wife a Galaxy S6 and had someone put some BlackBerry Logo's on it?
It is true if I wanted an Android I would already have one!
Posted via CB10
The CB app on BBS10 isn't good I had to view in browser to see all the pics in post and I googled the video on youtube because it didn't show in the Web browser or CB app -_-.... yawn so I wonder how much content I missed using the CB app versus the full Web page
Jé Be....Here But Gone...
The phone looks great but I can't see me using the physical keyboard much. Seems that with the extended length I would need to use two hands to avoid accidentaly dropping the phone. Give me an updated Z10. Same size but more horsepower and device memory. And for the love of gawd, do not replace the BB operating system with Android or anything else. BlackBerry is the only true smart phone. I don't want to take a step backward or use a toy/appliance for games and apps. I want a smart phone. Just my not-so-humble opinion.
Gimme, now!
Posted via CB10
Look wise BlackBerry version of Curve_Samsung ?
And I wish BlackBerry keep the wipe gesture screen control for this new device
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Hope it has more colour options such as white, silver, deep blue...
Posted via CB10 by Passport
And ultra violet and infra red colors too
Posted via CB10
There was a picture of a BlackBerry exec holding a white slider on one of the CB news articles. I'm buying mine in white if it does come to pass.
Posted from BlackBerry Classic, T-Mobile, no camera, 10.3.2.2474
We should wait the lunch, before making any conclusion.
From Le Passport(sold) or Z30 / 10.3.2.2639
I will wait for the same device running BlackBerry 10. :-)
Posted via CB10
My thoughts exactly.
*fingers crossed*
Frosty White Q10/10.3.2.2639 CB10
This phone looks like the Samsung edge
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when seeing these photos, I get the feeling, that this switch will be much less problematic than I thought.
For me personally, the main reason I love Blackberry, is their focus on productivity, organization and the physical keyboard.
And those shortcuts look awesome, I will definitely clutter my first homescreen with those, will be a definite productivity boost :)
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Disgusting..
Why are people saying it's the end of bb10 just because BlackBerry decided to launch as android phone? Are you that short sided to think that they will kill the what, 8 bb10 devices they have over 1 android device? I'm not a fan of android but I do hope this slider is successful as it will benefit the company as well as bb10. See the big picture folks!
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Agreed!
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BlackBerry needs to do something to survive, they cannot survive with such a small market share and keep them self alive with earnings from BBM stickers etc. It's that simple.
Will BlackBerry keep bb10 and android/bb10mix together? Giving people a choice? Will only the slider have android? Time will tell.
And the hub, look up the BlackBerry suite. BlackBerry has cut their software bb10 in pieces so there will be a hub in their bb10/android mix
Posted via BlackBerry Passport
When the blooooogle gets released I will be singing the blues:(
The world is truly upside down if this is all true.
Posted via CB10
Uh, "Property of Research in Motion"? How long has this been in the works?
Posted via CB10
I've been a true BlackBerry fan since 2011. Always used Blackberry's only.
Currently using one too & was impressed with all the Blackberry's in the past until this Slide a.k.a. Venice.
Its so cheap & dull.
Unimpressed by the Design.
I will never upgrade beyond the Silver Edition Passport if this is the Final device to stay.
#TeamBlackBerry
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Maybe wearing android is easier and cheaper rather customize bbos10 with googleplay service.
Posted via CB10
Has nothing to do with cost. If Google says "no GPS on non-Android phone," then that's the final answer. PERIOD. It's the final answer, and no amount of denial or delusion will change that!
Posted from BlackBerry Classic, T-Mobile, no camera, 10.3.2.2474
Listen guys BlackBerry won't go under, they are making a come back!
I love my BlackBerry phones. Everytime I pick up a samsung or icrap I almost throw the Damn things.
BlackBerry is the best operating system around.
Posted via CB10
I think it will be a problem to slide open without touching the screen.
Posted from kyuten
The build quality and the feel of the phone in one's hand better feel A LOT BETTER than the cheap BlackBerry Leap!
Posted via CB10
Here's the breakdown of the Venice, error, Dell Venue Pro...
http://m.windowscentral.com/dell-venue-pro-review
Blackberry z30 - a unique experience
I want this phone NOW!!! That's what I'm talking about BB ignore these fans and cater to the larger market. Getting consumers to buy your phones and not just fanboys will get you in the black faster.
Cringe worthy
Was Chen shilling for Google all along?
If the really want to do this, fine... as long as it comes in a BB10 version too.
Posted via CB10
"Shut up and take my money BlackBerry "
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This might pay off but they need a BB10 device. I will never have my calendar on Google's servers. Never!
Posted via CB10
Let's wait and see.... :-)
• Leakers' gonna leak... :-) •
Longest wait for some...I'm still ambivalent about this phone/android BlackBerry.
Posted via CA Governor's BlackBerry® Passport SE
Looks great. Those icons aren't custom. Those are the new ones in Android 5.x Lollipop and it's new flat look. I'll be very disappointed if I can't get it in BBOS 10. I hate Android with a passion. For all of the hype and love it gets, it's a terrible OS, especially when you have Google shoved down your throat. Android is hideous at memory management, it runs terribly slow on anything less than 2GBs of RAM, and some of the most popular apps are free apps that perform garbage collection manually instead of Android cleaning up after itself. You aren't allowed to install apps to an SD card, either, and that's if your hyper-expensive flagship phone even has a slot for one. If you can't afford $600+ for a phone or a ludicrously expensive mobile service plan with phone payments on top of that, then you'll likely end up getting a meager 8GBs of in-built storage onto which you can install almost nothing. I pay $85 a month for my entire family (unlimited everything, entirely different story) while some people pay that or more for just one line just to have the latest Galaxy. Ridiculous.
With BlackBerry's available why would anyone actually want an Android phone? Because you can "root" it and customize it? How much time do you spend customizing Android versus actually using it as a phone? It just boggles the mind. Android is unsecure, being manhandled by Google, CyanogenMod, a dozens more modders, not to mention all of the carriers locking it in and packing each one full of crapware. I'm glad BlackBerry isn't at the top of the heap so my Z10 and old Q10 didn't come pre-configured with anything more than the carrier's splash screen on bootup. I can install as many BB and Android apps as I like and they work just fine. About the only thing I don't have access to is Workflowy, but I can live without that.
I will gladly continue to spend my dollars on BlackBerry hardware and products in order to keep it important. I could care less about Android.
Longest wait ever for some! I'm still ambivalent about it.
Posted via CA Governor's BlackBerry® Passport SE
Very well put.
Posted via CB10
90's = "StarTAC" (?) #confused
Posted via CB10
Would love this phone with BB10. At least until a decked out Z50. With Android only would be a little disappointing
Posted via CB10
Looks like ANOTHER Android phone, sorry I only buy Blackberry's, that's NOT a Blackberry.
This phone is seriously the thing that will determine what phone I get next. If it comes out bb10 with current levels of android runtime, I'll consider it. If it comes out android, with all android runtime being dropped from all phones, I'll get it. If it comes out in Android with bb10 still having android runtime, ill likely get the classic. Also cheaper phones haha
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
Sad Blackberry is giving up on BB10 hands down best OS out there!
Posted via CB10
18mp camera...great improvement.
3gb ram.....is that enough though..bump to 4gb.
Snapdragon 808...Is this the latest improved Snapdragon processor available.?
Posted via CB10
No matter how chic the device is, it still looks mediocre and cheap because of the Android OS. I bet the device would look a ton better if it's on BB10 OS. Really hope they will release a BB10 version after the launch of this mediocrity.
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Barf alert!
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I really hope they make the android is optional, or release a full BlackBerry version. That's literally going to be the deciding factor on if I get it or not. Otherwise I guess I'll get a z50, or a passport.
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Didn't they admit to it by holding them up in the infamous 8 second video?
Authored on my passport se
Passport SE looks more sophisticated and futuristic than this leap like looking plastic phone with a keyboard!
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Definitely!
Hate Android. That is all.
Posted via CB10
I concur. I don't understand the mentality by making one of their best phones yet, an android.
If I wanted a 'Droid I'd have bought one.
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I doubt that I'll buy one. I love my passport running BB10. I don't have many apps and I'd rather buy the SE and wait to see what is produced in 2016.
Posted via my BlackBerry Passport
Definitely JC should hire innovative and futuristic designers like ZIRO or else anything coming out of production line will resemble a experimental model. Improvise existing models at least one model a year and please JC don't kill blackberry!!!
Posted via CB10
I have mixed feelings with this device...
Blackberry should've improved hardware specs of models especially classic and should've launched a slim and sexy phone with metal frets and silver/brushed aluminium /steel frame and big quad hd screen running on optimised 10.32 OS and should have done a good marketing campaign. BlackBerry should create a hype for classic 2 like I phone launching only one model, slowly but steadily that model would be gathering steam in the market enticing people bored with android and IOS switching platform to blackberry. I doubt this slider doing any good to BlackBerry.
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Somehow it doesn't look impressive, lacks completeness and looks absolutely experimental.
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Beach it's not an actual final hatdware...?
Quit hating, Start appreciating! Android is good and BlackBerry10 is good! 그만 싸웁시다
Darn.. auto correct because! It's not an actual final hatdware?
Quit hating, Start appreciating! Android is good and BlackBerry10 is good! 그만 싸웁시다
It does look very experimental. I don't think this is near finished hardware and software.
Posted via CB10
There's a million phones out there...buy what you need, not what people think you should have.
Posted via CB10
Will surely buy this this :)
Posted via CB10
I wonder if the keyboard will have shortcuts? Would of liked the pp keyboard on it!
Posted via CB10
That phone got more plastic than a 1984 Pontiac Fiero!!! I hope they can make it look more premium. If BB10 continues on in BB hardware I may pick up a Passport in the near future. If BB10 goes away I may have to look at IOS or Windows...not fond of Android. Just brought Z30 and I am happy with that for now.
Ioved the 84 Fiero. And the 88 MR2
Z30STA100-5 / 10.3.2.2639 / T-Mobile USA
Totally agree, phone needs a premium look. This pictured phone has very little appeal. I hope it's a pre-production model.
Posted via CB10
...just take my money!
OMG. This phone looks so sweet. Goodbye Passport, hello Venice!!
Posted with a Passport
I personally love the design of this bb I may just buy when I'm through with my galaxy s4 was thinking of going s6 but I've always liked bb and I love the difference in its design
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
Please tell me the blackberry hub still in place...
Posted via CrackBerry App
No thanks, I'm good with Passport SE.
Posted via CA Governor's BlackBerry® Passport SE
18MP camera. One word wow! Apple's S6 clocked at 12MP.
Blackberry until another black US president hahah!
Posted via CA Governor's BlackBerry® Passport SE
Dude don't knock it till you've tried it remember cam sensor makes it all happen
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
And Apple will stay with that for a while, I'm sure.... :-)
• Leakers' gonna leak... :-) •
No Hub?
Yay!! Another Android phablet to crowd the walls of my wireless carrier store!! Because there are not enough of them!! And here I thought BlackBerry gave a crap about security. So choose the most malware ridden embedded garbage os that has a new remote exploit each week and a horrible Google tainted UX
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
It's a phablet slider... first of its kind!
Not your stock slab, sir... :-)
• Leakers' gonna leak... :-) •
LOL I guess you're right. I mean it is made by BB and the hardware is sexy. I am sorry, I just get depressed when I go to look at a selection of phones and see that 98% of them are just Android phablet clones. But I think the software is very important when judging the UX of any piece of technology. Image an insanely powerful video game system with a crappy selection of indie platformers and puzzles games when you really just want beautiful FPS, RPG, or JRPGs. That's a good analogy to my relationship with BB. I want security and I love the innovative design of the BB10 user interface. I begged them when I was in contact when them submitting a bug recently (https://twitter.com/WeakNetLabs/status/641260931385835520) and they seemingly ignored the topic as if they either didn't want to /confirm/ or /deny/ the rumor at the time that they had an Android device on the way!
http://www.cnet.com/products/blackberry-slider/rel=nofollow
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Hopefully they'll have an Otterbox that will fit it.
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Pictures don't work on crackberry app. Fail
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I do not want an Android phone. If I wanted that I would have done it already. My Z10 will do until the next real BlackBerry Is released. Should have got a Z30 when they were on sale though, oh well, I like the Z10 size better.
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I wish for once there was a picture of the BlackBerry Slider running BB10...too much to ask...or just this just a preview of the BlackBerry Retardroid clones which will wipe away the last traces that made up the essence of BlackBerry?
Cartman says: Screw you guys I'm going home!
Android is a crappy OS. The first BlackBerry OS is light years better than todays android OS . Android is a joke as its name Lollipop or Marshmallow whatever it's called it's a incomplete OS. It cannot multi task even now. Even the best android phone no matter how powerful spec it is on paper. You open 2 apps or more then in short time all the apps close. It sure is not and never be a Blackberry. Android by itself never be productive and never be secure. All it is is a big screen for watching youtube!
Blackberry running android may change that. More secure, more productive, more efficient more privacy. Built for work and play for the Professional.
It's easy to hack a android and im not a hacker. Let me show you. Take somebodys password protected crappy android galaxy, galaxy note. It will ask you for password. Type in a big line of crapp into it. The android will break and bypass the password and open the phone. There you go hacking into a phone made for idiots.
Get the point?!
Looper back and make corleone offer for Track pad on Blackberry
Yeah, memory leaks and overflows.... :-)
• Leakers' gonna leak... :-) •
So sad if it's not BBOS
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What I want to know is will BBM video work from it from the off between it and BB10 devices?
Posted via CB10 on my BlackBerry Passport
Good question.
Posted via CB10
Ewww. No thank you android.
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I hope its an all band phone like the nexus 6 but getting it regardless
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
Love it
Posted via my new passport
I wanna have it! ;)
Posted via CB10
OMFG Please take my money. I will buy the phone the minute when it comes out.
On second thought, let me see the camera quality and internal specs.
I hope BlackBerry won't be teasing me anymore with a lower end phone (yes you BlackBerry Leap). I'm overdue for an upgrade from my Z10.
Posted on CB10 on my awesome BlackBerry Z10!
My concern is the sd card- ever since 4.2 I think (it might be a higher ver. of 4.x) Android will not write to an SD card. The reason is that SD cards are MUCH cheaper than internal memory- and Google (in conjunction with the manufacturers) want users to spend more to get more memory in the phone itself. Thus, they will not allow writing to an SD card- they are read only- so will Blackberry be participating in that scam ?
Not sure why people would buy a Blackberry with the competitions OS....... image Ford saying to its customers "we're going to use Toyota engines as they're a little better" it would never happen. You would expect Ford to work it's arse off to make its engine better. Blackberry needs to work harder and wow the masses, not copy everyone else.
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Funny thing is car manufacturers do to backstage deals. You got Toyota building their Super Car on BMW's line. Honda use to build engines for Saturn's. GM and Toyota built the Matrix and Vibe on the same line as well. Heck, go take a look under the hood of the Vibe and you will see parts that say Toyota. But I do see where you're coming from. I feel if people want an Android device, to get a Samsung.
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Mitsubishi and Mercedes-Benz.... ;-)
• Leakers' gonna leak... :-) •
Well, Toyota is using an entire car with their badging on it. Look up the Scion iA, and then look up the Mazda 2 sedan.
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You would think but now that it's on a BlackBerry device it's not a "competition" OS anymore. You're engine analogy doesn't really hold up when there's a thing called Car Platform where multiple cars and manufacturers share a common platform (think Ford Focus and Volvo S40 and Mazda 3). I don't see it being much different here.
But I'll add I love bb10 and I can understand where you're coming from. I'm just frustrated sometimes it cannot match the offerings of other platforms, app wise. It kinda reminds of Nintendo whom I love but they seriously lack software support. But what it does offer is superb.
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Will the BlackBerry Venice have a BB10 version? I think so. If you look at the teaser pic of when they introduced the "Slider", you can see it running BB10 but here is something to stir the pot of stew up. Notice how the other "Slider" is not facing the crowd? Wonder if that is the Android version??? Hmmmm!?
http://www.cnet.com/products/blackberry-slider/
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It's doubtful those sliders were running anything besides a transparent overlay and an LED back light. They were dummy devices.
I've been on BlackBerry 10 since Z10 release and I'm tired of app compromises, work arounds etc., at every turn. I'm ready for apps that work and function as intended. I'll take the hub, VKB, antenna, browser, BBM, and secure apps over to Android. Good enough for me! Bring it.
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Good luck taking the browser.
Crackberry should cover the PIN message system and the android phones.
Spoofing Google android is not difficult, teenagers consider it a hobby.
Does the Venice phone include PIN messages? If not, then there is no harm to the blackberry brand.
If the PIN message system remains device-based, then that will be a good sign.
If, however PIN is an overlay to android, then that is a disaster for all blackberry users. A large number of compromised phones will actually ruin it for the rest of us.
Please find out for us please.
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I hate that task management is not front facing, as it is in bb10 and webos... putting the active panes in replacement of the stock android task switch is terribad and should just be stock.. the point and advantage of active panes is it front facing and active aspect- that's all being taken away.
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But the stock Android task switcher is a joke as well. It's a list of recent apps with screenshots. Depending on the manufacturer Android implementation apps are more or less likely to get killed in the background.
What we're seeing here is probably as visually close as they could get to the BB10 Active Frames - but unless a miracle happens, they're going to be just a pale ghost of their predecessors and won't be "active" at all. Anyway I find it better (less bad) than stock Android.
BlackBerry has no plans for the future.
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BB10 with Google Play store and Android integration... is that too much to ask for? Instead they go full Android and made it look undesirable!
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Thank you!
Lol!! Do you honestly think it would have been that simple to get Google to play ball?
Yes, why not? They do it with iOS without any problems.
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iOS doesn't have Google Services. Just Google Apps.
I don't think any BlackBerry 10 fan will buy BlackBerry Venice if it runs on Android.... BlackBerry 10 is better than Android so this is a downgrade.
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I'm a BlackBerry die hard and will buy it...doesn't make sense what you say. sorry.
PassportSQW100-1/10.3.2.2639
Oh please....so many people using bb10 will buy it....i am one of them and I except change and want change...bored of bb10 now and want to try something new...Android with BlackBerry flavor mixed in is a dream come true .
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The more I see and hear about it, the more excited I get. Hopefully soon.
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Don't want this phone. Just want my bb10 with Google Play Store and services.
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And I want BB10 with the Apple App store and iTunes. But none of these things will happen.
Okay...I don't remember reading it having a vpb???? Did I miss something. Is it true!!?!??
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I don't like android and I hate iphone..im sticking with my wife passport and if they shut the blackberry os down I'll move to windows phone..
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Boo.
So much for BB10.
What a shame...a low down dirty shame.
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Wheres the BlackBerry Hub icon :(
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I hope they follow the trend of other companies and bring up a smaller Venice. This one's too big for my pockets. Something between 4 and 5 inches screen is sufficient for me.
Is Messenger the hub?
Forgive my typos, I don't look when I type
i think the logo in back is Verizon!! and front too!!
Does anyone loathe the huge Google search bar at the top? I can't stand it!
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Your BlackBerry shall be Scroogled!
Lol
Frosty White Q10/10.3.2.2639 CB10
Scroogle is dead. Long live DDG!
:-)
https://duckduckgo.com
Can we please have that? Thanks... custom search engine instead of Google spybar...
• Leakers' gonna leak... :-) •
I'm more of a www.startpage.com guy myself.
Frosty White Q10/10.3.2.2639 CB10
Yup. I loathe it. More than you. Words can't describe how much I loathe it.
Forgive my typos, I don't look when I type
Ha!
Anyone knows if this is a removable widget?
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Yes the widget is removable.
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Yes. My new phone
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Numbers don't lie:
http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp
Blackberry OS Market Share:
2012 Q2 4.9%
2013 Q2 2.8%
2014 Q2 0.5%
2015 Q2 0.3%
For all the "BB10 or nothing" people in Crackberry: you're dropping like flies! At 0.5% marketshare that would just be the BB diehards left. Yet a year later, it still dropped to 0.3%. That's a 40% loss from previous year!
Prediction: 2016 Q2 0.05%. (Note: the data is ***OS*** marketshare)
Which is why they're taking action.
But we are no flies. Still human. BlackBerry didn't offer something interesting since the Passport. A lot of people waited for a Passport without keyboard, bbry didn't react.
Plus the new bbry is a software company. Your Numbers only shows what BlackBerry executed, a transition to software. Just check BlackBerry latest acquisitions.
Do you really think Android OS will increase market share? Only samsung makes money on Android as everyone already know. Based from my Android user experience, the more customize build on the Android OS, the more buggy, unstable and lagged it will gets. Beside there are many Android phones out there to choose, thinner, lighter and cooler. What makes blackberry an exception so that it can increase market shares? Keyboard will only increase thickness and weight, and will not be good like classic and passport.
Looks so promising. I hope it feels good in the hand and the qwerty is all it should be.
Very excited to see one and try it.
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I guess they had to have a home button?
I've never used a phone with a home button, went from Torch 9810 to Z10.
I guess I'll miss having a phone with no home button.
Z30STA100-5 / 10.3.2.2639 / T-Mobile USA
Nice to see
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Wondering why the leaked pictures have a sticker that says "Property of Research in Motion. " they had a whole bunch left over?
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It was such a better name. Wonder if some employee could sell some of those on eBay.
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I would buy one!
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I love my Z30 but I feel it's time for BlackBerry to release a new device here in the states for everyone. The ignorant people will always rag on BlackBerry no matter what they invent or build. It's just like how the US media ragged on Bush. I see so many similarities it's sick.
The ignorance in the smartphone world is running wild just like the ignorance is in politics.
I'm ready!!
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I want to hold this device in my hands. guess chen has a really good plan. BB10 is definitely the best OS out there but people buy andoid and IOS so give this device a try!
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But, but... where's the Hub??
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Yeah!!!
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Where is the Hub?!?
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According to a few things ive heard you will access it by using gestures
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Decent!
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Im so waiting for the BB10 OS version :D
Looks enticing!
I agree, well overdue. They are leaving it far too late to make some sort of announcement. Jeez, BlackBerry fans are the last to know.
BlackBerry should be setting their stall out by now with a possible release within the next couple of months. Start convincing existing bb10 users why they should accept android on their devices after years of sticking with BlackBerry through some bad times to avoid just that.
Posted by Passport on bb10 but not sure for how much longer!
I would never buy a BlackBerry with Android OS. Doesn't muje sense. I would rather buy an Samsung with BlackBerry 10 OS
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Why doesn't BlackBerry announce something for crying out loud? Seriously, there is no better an example of crappy marketing and selling than this company. They're going to wait for Apple, Google, Samsung, HTC, LG and pretty well EVERYBODY ELSE to launch their next gen devices and then - after everybody's upgraded, make an announcement? That's the plan? I'm a lapsed BlackBerry user who would absolutely consider the Venice - but I'm not waiting for BlackBerry to come out of the woodwork with an announcement. I'm looking at the new iPhones and the new Moto X Pure - but will wait for the Nexus devices to launch at the end of September and comparing them to the recently launched Samsung and to be launched LG devices at the end of September and make a call one one of these alternatives unless there's some news out of Waterloo on a release date for the Venice. See... there's lots of options - BlackBerry needs to get with it - cause if my next phone isn't a BlackBerry, I will never go back.
I would wait until Google releases the Marshmallow OS and have the Moto X Pure ship with it. I'm waiting to see if that OS really addresses all the privacy & permission problems like I read they would.
Yup, that's the plan. I've bought Nexus devices ever since I moved away from the BlackBerry Bold and pick them up alongside the release of the new OS. I'm looking at the Nexus 5X right now, but I'd consider waiting for the Venice if BlackBerry were tonwise up and give us some details.
I came from a long line of Nokia phones and the OS I liked the most was the meego OS that was on the Nokia n900. After that OS was not supported anymore I went to Android which was very similar, I would even say Android used a lot of that OS, and now that I am on the BB10 OS, I also see alot that is very similar like the recent Open apps as windows/widgets..
Anyway. since both remind me of the Meego experience I am willing to give it a shot I would also like to start being able to use smartwatches, and smart goggles, etc. which are not supported by BB10 at least I don't think, except for the pebble.
Why does it say property of research in motion on the back?
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I hope the Google search bar at the top can be removed. I see no BB browser. And by the way they divide the suites, one will almost need all three suites to get basics like Hub, BBM, and Blend. Will it be included, or paid services?
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I like the look of the phone...............but HATE the look of the os looks cheap and crappy
Sometimes I miss my old curve and bold keyboards. But I liked the bigger screens on the Z10 and then the Z30. Maybe this could be the best of both? I can use the keyboard if I want or just keep it closed and use the vkb. Hmmm....still have to wait and see how the hub will work and if the flicky keyboard is there. I'll definitely give it a going over once it's on display. Might just pick one up to have as a second phone.
Rocking a Z30 on Verizon
There will be a BB10 Version...
Looks sweet. But I still want it to look feel and act like BB10. Dang. I know it won't.
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Yet another Android flaw has been discovered that leaves millions vulnerable to criminals (see link). I only hope there'll be a BB10 option for the Venice and Prague when they're eventually released, as I just don't trust Android.
http://mippinappgenerator.com/mip/pct.jsp?p=1046740154_609782&wl=9
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Boring stock Android...
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So boring that hardly anyone uses/cares about it. Unlike BB10. ;)
I read in an article back in June with Mr Chen stating "if I can get Android secure, I would make an Android device". I guess he got it secured. Seems to me that BlackBerry and Android are helping each other out in the weak points of their OS's. Security for Android and I guess apps for BlackBerry
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Or rather Chen hopes he has Android secured. The day this phone is released the bounties to break the bootloader and root the phone will start.
Because this phone has the same BlackBerry labels any BlackBerry has, it carries it's heritage with it. There will be a lot of prestige in the Android community to the dev who can break it My money is on Chainfire.
Should be interesting
Sorry, no Android BlackBerry for me. Got a family of 3 phones at home. All BlackBerry running BB10 plus two PlayBooks. Sorry I'll pass unless there's a BB10 option. Long history of BlackBerry phones in my household. Would be a shame if we had to switch platform.
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OH HELL YA!
Ooohh the anticipation of getting this into my hands!!
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Sorry...android, and the design is shame !!!!!
That's so shame!!!!!
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I really, really hope the phone comes out with two versions, one running Android and one running BB10... if there is no BB10 version, I guess I'll have to get a Passport.
Doesn't look like there is so far. Unless they announce it at the last minute.
Actually, the original phone we first caught a glimpse of ran BB10. It could just be that version isn't being tested out as openly as they can test their BB10 updates on any other phone, but this and the passport are the only ones running Android. So basically they could very well have a BB10 version.
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Do you guys have enough money to make a BB10 version profitable? BlackBerry ain't a charitable organization.
Yet it looks like they haven't been this good at doing business lately.
That's very exciting! Can't wait to be the proud owner of it!
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Fake and ugly piece of shyte.
Go ahead, flame on! Like I give a finger.
Fake? Man...lol.
It must be a really good fake if Tmobile News is posting it on their Google Plus account
Rock'n that Passport
It's not fake, but it's very sad to see a BlackBerry device running android. This is a sad day indeed.
This is a good thing.. They'll still keep BB10 I'm sure but an Android BlackBerry would be intriguing for a whole lotta folks! :-)
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I don't see anything wrong with it, if -like you say- they keep BB10 for those of us that are happily using the OS.
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I can give you the middle finger if you want. :P
Not if I flip you first, a$$h0l3
You can swear in here, you know.
No sure how to feel. It looks like it might be awkward in the hand, that being said so is the passport.
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Passport is fine in my hands. It's meant for two unless you have huge hands. I've never used any phone with one hand. Just not natural to me.
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To bad the agenda app doesn't show the current date like the BlackBerry app...
We will what wil be announced. These images can't be fake, and it's been android from the beginning when images showed up. The device BlackBerry showed during the launch of the Passport was just a dummy.
BlackBerry has android runtime for many years now. BlackBerry partners with Samsung for Samsung knox, BlackBerry now has BlackBerry suite so an android /bb10 combo is very obvious.
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