Before the weekend kicked off, the folks over at 4GNews posted up some images of the BlackBerry Passport Silver Edition running Android Lollipop but what most folks missed was that the images were taken from a video. Rather then posting just those images, we decided to wait and see if the video would pop up and sure enough, it has now appeared. The device appears to be the same device that leaked out earlier but this time around, we get a good look of it in action running through some of the settings as well as the Google Play Store.
Sadly, that's where the information stops and while some outlets have dubbed it the Passport 2, we're not ready to call it that just yet. With all that has been happening surrounding the BlackBerry 'Venice' slider, a more reasonable thought would be that BlackBerry is using this as a test bed for running Android but alas, even that is speculation at this point. The video does, however, add even more credibility to the images put out by @evleaks showing both the original and the Silver Edition Passport running Android, not that it was really needed at this point. Things are getting weird in Waterloo.
Discuss. Further reading: http://t.co/eI0FFZu3Ng pic.twitter.com/zcydqV5ccV
— Evan Blass (@evleaks) August 19, 2015UPDATE - As Thurask noted in the comments, the device looks to identify itself as the Oslo. A codename we should all be familiar with from earlier leaks before the Dallas codename appeared for the Silver Edition Passport.
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BlackBerry Passport Silver Edition captured on video running Android
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I think underline issue is how we get blackberry to have a greater market share and at the same time making the brand stronger, I would blackberryzed the android world with a killer accessory combine with BB security like to retrain all those android users back to blackberry. I am talking about sophisticated blackberry keyboard package specifically design for the top android sellers that will be produced in great quantities at a great profit margin but also will help to reinstall the training and usage BB style. The we'll design, full of features blackberry keyboard and security BB package could sale like hot cakes right now and could have a tremendous impact on people buying future devices were the integration of the hardware is in place with the BB devices
I'd buy a Passport Android. It pains me to say it but I would. I don't understand why you'd put more money into a new phone for Android instead of just putting Android on your existing hardware first. I don't think a slider phone is going to sell. The market has moved beyond that.
Ideally I'd love to have a dual boot phone. BB10 is still hands down a better phone OS IMHO. The issue has always been App development. You can not sell phones in today's world if the popular Apps are not available for your phone. Android and Apple have leverage on that development. A company as big as Microsoft is still having trouble gaining traction because developers won't make versions for their windows phones. It's shame.
I've always had a BlackBerry. They've been terrific phones for me.
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Hmmmmm how about keeping the bb10 os and just make it supports Google services? ?.....
Am using the passport and I love it cause I installed the play store, everything runs well ( most of them to be honest ) , except for apps which needs Google services sooooooooooo yeah .....
From Blackberry France:
http://www.blackberry-france.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/167857575.jpg
A Passport with a "switch to Android" button. Looks like it is dual boot with two OS on one phone:-).....
I am cynical. Now for several reasons.
Red Passport on OS 10.3.2.2339 / SR 10.3.2.2226
Hey #Hassan00 I think the same, this would be the end from a great Organization, it would be sad that chen couldn't do anything, I think Thorsten Heins tried the best at least to Blackberry 10 success but I think also time and marketing was the two important point to blackberry.
let's see if Google (Android) know what they're doing to improve android security.
I love Blackberry's devices I still have the Blackberry Playbook, the Blackberry Q 10, the Z 10.
supporting the best devices
good god android looks so shitty. bb10 GUI is so miles ahead. i dont care i if i cant have google play access. id take bb10 over android any day
I woould buy it immediately!
Nobody see that is something wrong in the image around the screen, it looks like it was edited to fit in the passport screen.
I don't mind the idea of an Android running Blackberry phone. On the video it looks a darn sight quicker and smoother than my passport running BB10!
There is always the argument that anything other than BB10 is akin to living in a house made of glass and all is on view, but as far as I understand it, unless you'er running BB10 through a BES server, you're not much better protected than Windows, iOS or Android. And as many say, if you use the internet you should accept that whatever you send wirelessly can be intercepted...
I'd buy one of these Blackdriods whether passport or slider.
How did this guy end up with an Android device? Why is this info coming to us like this? I don't get it. Seems to me there should be videos like this available in every language and reputable reviewers from Canada and the US posting info as well.
Any ideas on how this went down?
Red Passport on OS 10.3.2.2339 / SR 10.3.2.2226
Stupid
I've owned android devices in the past, I've owned ios devices, too. But nothing compares to the user experience of BB10.
Just going too call them out here...
Ios, smooth, basic, fast and very app centric. But they choose to have light weight and thin phones over battery life.
Android, extremely versatile, can be fast and snappy on the latest hardware. But I just find that you still experience lag and low frame rates in the menus and often have to deal with crashes.
BB10 (on my passport) I have the android apps I need, and the excellent user experience of the hub and browser (I really like the browser on BB10). Not to mention the gesture to reach the important stuff from anywhere and reply or whatever.
Sorry for the long post...
Mike
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Oh well maybe they'll come out with a BlackBerry named after EACH state in the USA later on...
I liked that Dallas name... sigh...
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Android looks disgusting and so out of place on a blackberry.
I cannot feel you guys' grief. I'm from the android world and now am forced to use the company's BlackBerry Passport. I'm more than happy to see android on BlackBerry. And the truth is no matter how much you guys like BlackBerry OS, its market share is keeping going down. Even if Chen focuses on marketing, can the situation be changed? I really doubt it.
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I wonder if I would be able to " upgrade " my new SE to android....
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all I want to know is if I can switch my bb10os to android
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Extremely smooth. I see BlackBerry making a major comeback when they add android phones to their catalogue.
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John Chen is not marketing BBS10 to us consumers. He is trying to market BBS10 to Google. BBS10 is Android's future. Venice is the proof of that. Imagine if you can integrate gestures and other BBS10 features to Android aside from Hub and productivity suite? There are telltale signs already like the S6 edge and Note Edge gestures by Samsung. They are slowly licensing BlackBerry technology to Android phones. I wouldn't be surprised if Google one day buy or get licenses from BlackBerry's patents one day. I doubt they will sell BlackBerry as a company. They will make a profit out of BlackBerry's assets specifically it's IPs. At the great scheme of things, it is the money that matters for these people. As it should be if you own their stocks.
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Having a Blackberry device running Android, is like having a body without the soul... and we all know what happens, according to the episode 132 of The Simpsons "Bart Sells His Soul".
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I feel like this may be the end of BB10 but my hope is that Chen is just looking to grow the company into new areas. The Android platform could use a phone with a great keyboard. There are plenty of folks who want that. I'm a little surprised that the skinning on Android in the video isn't heavier to feel more like BB10 though.
Chen has shown that he's competent. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and see where he's going with this.
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I knew he was Portuguese or Brazilian. I had an android phone and it was cool. When it rained a window wiper wiped rain off the screen. Other that that it crash every 2nd day and had to force quit an app at least once a day.
My Z10 has not crashed in 3yrs and now the GF uses it. I use the BlackBerry Red Passport.
I made my money using a blackberry and will continue to use one.
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Could the BlackBerry Venice be the next Nexus phone?
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DAMN NICE!
We need to be realistic: BlackBerry need the mass / volume sale of hardware to help keep funding it's development. The majority of people or companies that are not buying a BlackBerry 10 device no matter what are hurting sales. So, a querty-capable BlackBerry running Android is the way to go. They are never going to be as stable or as safe as BB10 devices but BlackBerry will sell them for whoever is not in need of all safety features of a BB10 device. And BlackBerry will still be developing and upgrading the core BBOS10 devices for highly secured and regulates customers. It is simple and a brilliant strategy. And add that the fact that BlackBerry will bring the core products and functions of BLACKBERRY to iOS and Android as well for all other non-BlackBerry devices...
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For those of you wanting to "hang" John Chen, chill out! He absolutely did NOT want to go the Android route. Hence his "App-Neutrality" rant earlier this year: http://crackberry.com/john-chen-calls-app-neutrality
His plea fell on deaf ears and no developers rushed in to write apps for the BB10 platform.
After selling only 1.1 million devices in the quarter, the writing was on the wall. ADAPT OR DIE! He made the painfull decision to adapt and the choice was Android. Also, BB10 is NOT ever going away. The BB10 user base is a fraction of those using "other" mobile Operating Systems and the device production numbers going forward will reflect that. I fully expect a BB10 Slider by February next year at the latest. That will give the Android version enough time to marinate. John Chen is the messenger; don't shoot him.
He could have spent the money and resources on marketing and on writing the critical apps for bb10 that were missing, instead of wasting them on android code.
Without marketing, nobody will buy an android BlackBerry because the public will not know it exists and the carriers will still try to promote Samsung and Apple products who put a lot of money into marketing.
There is no security and privacy for the public without BB10.
Chen is securing android with BES12, not for you and I and, as you can see, the gestures and flow will not make it into android BlackBerry.
Most likely, the Hub and the security suites will be paid apps, if at all available to the public, just like BBM Meetings is.
It does not appear that his enterprise focus plan has resulted in any significant sale of BB10 phones, not even to government, or else they would have publicized the numbers.
He may indeed have failed to sell to enterprise and that's what may have prompted the change of mind because his actions are all over the place and contradict themselves:
Software-enterprise focus first and now consumer-hardware focus.
If all these leaks are true, he is just trying to get rid of the hardware he built by putting android on it.
Even if android BlackBerry is successful, there is no reason for him to continue to build hardware.
BB10 and its support will go the route of the PlayBook OS.
We will be left with choosing between Iphone, android phones other than BlackBerry, windows phone, or, if we care about data privacy (because none of the former have it), Jolla or Linux phones.
Absolutely nothing that you have ranted about was Chen's fault or was in his control. He is simply playing the cards that he's been dealt. Do you seriously think that if BlackBerry marketed/advertised the heck out of BB10 it would have made a difference against the likes of Apple & Samsung? Dream on. Those finite dollars are being allocated right where it's supposed to be. And I will repeat myself, BB10 OS is not going away; way too many government & military contracts all over the world that rely on it. Chill.
We will soon find out if Android saves BlackBerry.
The Amazon Store was launched with much hope and in the end it resulted in fewer sales.
It also introduced pervasive data mining to consumer BB10 phones.
I agree that they will keep a secure version of BB10 for governments.
That does not mean it will also be offered to the public.
For sure Chen was dealt a bad hand, but he looks desperate now.
Only word I understood was "Blackberry " ... Hahaha.
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According to me blackberry world is the biggest problem in the way to grow the market cause of less number of apps and games,
I just don't know why they don't try to make it better instead of making an android phone!
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BlackBerry users love blackberry cause of its platform and once its gone then I don't think anyone would love to use android on blackberry phone,
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I love how refined it looks.
I think I may just change my mind about it.
Had to honestly see it to believe it and so far it looks amazingly great.
I think I will be getting one pretty soon honestly.
I mean we are already halfway there with Android emulation and what not...
The only thing is Google spamware does bother the heck out of me.
Will most likely uninstall and run it with what I use the most.
Truly impressed Blackberry it is time to battle Samsung one o
n one.
Supporting the workers struggle world wide via my BB,Z30
Morons.
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First step is becoming an Android OEM. Next step, Blackberry Nexus!!!
I was not sold on the Passport Silver running android. If the PP gets updated to an android os then a class action suit shall follow.
I doubt BB10 will be phased out.
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Looks very fishy to me, with the tops and bottom blurry and sometimes crooked, and the sides always blurry. Like the image was superimposed.
I know we are pretty much 100% sure BB is working with Android OS projects, but am I the only one that thinks this particular video looks fake???
http://i.imgur.com/oi7SzMd.jpg
if false the only thing that is so typical samples are priate operating systems are betas
only because less apps built for bb
whats happend with bb10 only for less bb 10 apps
i was big fabn of bb 10 but in 2015 apps are also part of productivity
It's simple. If blackberry leave their own system, I'll leave blackberry.
i will defiantly android bb
will say by byu bb10
john chen is very forword man
he thinks from were people stops thinking
I am hoping that instead of this being the end of BB10, it allows BlackBerry to ensure better Android app integration with BB10 devices. I am not going to use Android on BlackBerry for sure. Such a downgrade.
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Blackberry has lost the youth they have forgotten about Blackberry and only know android and IOS it's just us old farts that support Blackberry me included using a Passport which i think is a great phone but it's needs to be better ti get the youth back
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Nice editing!!
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I don't think I believe he had a legit passport with Android on it. Why didn't he show the hub or other blackberry "centric" apps like docs to go or even the hub?
I have loaded an android launcher on my z30 and z10 before, it's not that hard and it acts just like that. He only showed off the hidden lollipop game and the logo. So what? That doesn't prove anything.
Until he shows off anything blackberry like, I call BS.
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I lost any focus on BlackBerry and don't get my blog about BlackBerry up to date since last week. I have around 500 followers and don't no what to say. I know is that some people are thinking to buy an extra BB10 phone or just drop BlackBerry. It's also bad for sales
I love BlackBerry and will keep on buying it. The problem with BlackBerry is that they always seem to be 3-5 years behind with everything now especially after they way they once we're. The other problem is marketing. When I went to purchase my passport there was nothing in this place with the blackberry brand. Even the sales guy had to check his system as he thought I was joking! They need to keep BB10
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Something about this guy just rubs me wrong. I think it's the way he says BlackBerry. It just aggravates me.
Forgive my typos, I don't look when I type
All that BlackBerry needs now is marking not jumping to android.... if BlackBerry phone with android o.s... I would prefer Sony or Samsung, I was a android user but BlackBerry o.s is far better makes things faster " never lag" unlike android which lag when I try to open a new app... just do marketing and increase Customers don't waste time on android and lose the Customers !!!!
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Some thoughts on this... I work for a Fortune 100 company with 100k+ employees worldwide. Had happily used BB since late 2000. However, as our BB users-base shrank to <3%, our exec. management decided not to invest into BES10 migration, and eventually discontinued BES7 support completely earlier this year. After switching to iPhone, I truly miss my BB9900 Bold. I would love to use BB again. I would expect there is a lot of other ex-BB users in the same situation. Having a BB running Android would give me an opportunity to go back to physical keyboard and support the BB brand again. Personally, I can't wait...
there was a time when I went blackberry z30 there is a video that is also said to have the z30 android and what was an android issue that can be put up for BlackBerry 10, this could be the case for you where they got the driver two as they released the bootloader that if they release that easy Blackberry would not be as safe as paints, so I think that is an issue as happened with the z30 and hardware spent the passport will be more fluid to the subject, so I say do not be deceived that existed long ago and here I leave a video to see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaZDhCBs94A
The navigation buttons need to go!
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Yay... Another android device. Just what the world needs. Say goodbye to any originality and innovation that once made BlackBerry great. Say hello to the world of "me too's"
All I'm asking BlackBerry is for Google Play services integrated with BB10. I don't need an Android OS because honestly, it looks pretty shitty on the Passport. I refuse to accept Android on my Passport.
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I hear that they are gonna push android to all bb10 devices at the next update and disguise it as bb10.4
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Given the hidden agenda of getting us all data mined by Google, I would not be surprised. They already did it with 10.3.2 and the Amazon store.
At least the latter may be, in theory, suppressed through parental control.
If that's true then I will not update this phone. Ever.
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I certainly hope when they officially offer this it's running smoother than this, as it stands from the video it looks like a 3 year old android device.
Disgusting
The crucial point for me will be the support for PIN messages.
If it doesn't do the PIN, that's okay, at least no harm done.
If it does the honest hardware based PIN, then that is the best option to cope with the insecure android os.
If it does the PIN via software, then John Chen should resign immediately, and give up his Canadian citizenship. Spoofing on Google software is a very common problem.
If the android blackberries do PIN messages that are software based, then those spoofed machines will reduce the value of honest blackberry messages.
So, crackberry... please find this out.
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Oh God that looks horrible ._. And so uncomfortable, I have to say, yeah android was made for rectangular screens not my beautiful square passport screen.
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Interesting, it's runs different
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I had, in my hand this weekend, a Venice. The OS needs a little work, its a touch choppy compared to an S6.....but If this comes to be. I for one am excited!
We're all doomed.... :p
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I just love the BlackBerry 10, but I don't why BlackBerry wants to go with Android. Seriously this is messed up...
Come on people. Really?? BlackBerry as hardware company is dead without android. This same argument was had back in 2008-2009 when BlackBerry decided to not offer android phone because they would lose BBOS revenue. Then BlackBerry started development of BB10 when people left anyway because of lack of app development. 95% of smartphone market wants IOS/Android. That battle is more or less over. Your choices are BlackBerry Android or nothing if you want BlackBerry hardware going forward. I love BB10 however I've accepted that BlackBerry cannot survive with us as the only hardware customers. Everything people suggest has already been tried but android won. Look how poorly the development and implementation of Tizen has gone? BB10 may be kept around to keep as tool for threatening IOS/Android/WP like Tizen but it can't and won't be the savior of BlackBerry (see 2012-2015). Android for BlackBerry needs to succeed if BlackBerry remains in the hardware business. Tweaking it to satisfy BB10 fans while having everything function like android fans prefer will be important, but there are more android fans than BB10 fans so they'll be given priority. It's hard to accept sometimes but we've all known this was coming. Be thankful we haven't ended up like Palm users. They refused android. How'd that end up for them? Besides, where are we going if no BlackBerry exists? I'm not breaking out flip phone in protest......
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Chuck. You are right!
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Great now a blackberry with OS fragmentation! Cr** security! But will feed peoples app addiction.
I'm starting to think all these Android "leaks" have one purpose.
Make BlackBerry declare BB10 powered device will be also available/released.
I'm fine with that goal because I think all (existing and future) BlackBerry customers need (and deserve) this kind of assurance from BlackBerry.
I just HOPE BlackBerry won't reserve pure BlackBerry experience (BB10) for enterprise.
Same great body, but on inspection it completely lacks the elegance, style, and flow of BB10. It's like watching someone with a $20K/year job run around in a used Armani suit and a leased BMW 318i.
Thank **** this is just a prototype. To truly be a BlackBerry it needs to deliver an experience. They're probably going to change the OS under the hood. We get it. They have to do this to survive. They still need to do a damn good job skinning it to get it to look and feel like BB10 before they serve it up to customers or they risk alienating the few they still have left.
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It had to be powered BB10 with more applications and developers. I used Android, and no big deal.
BB10 is a great system, and I think the solution is not to kill him, if not, encourage it.
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Any leaks with booting and lock screen? This might just be some sort of emulator.
Passport, SQW 100-1, OS 10.3.2.2339
If true, it is certainly the death knell for BB10. There can be only one. If Android is it, BB10 is kaput.
BlackBerry sales didn't falter because of the OS. BlackBerry handset sales faltered because the general public still thinks that BlackBerry is stuck in 2007.
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There not going to dump blackberry 10, do you really think BlackBerry would burn every major government and business contract who just signed up? That would be major lawsuits
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The sole reason why I use blackberry device is the keyboard. If android runs smoothly on my passport then I am more than happy! Unless BB10 improves its app world.
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I run Android apps on my Z30, and Built for BlackBerry apps totally rock.
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Remember, guys. There are only 4 of these available.
The same amount, I suspect, of Nokia N8s that were available running Eclair, or Nokia Lumia 800s that ran Jelly Bean (both were spotted).
Wide vision, from Chile.
It will be a sad day! When BB10 is gone!
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the beginning of the end....the captain is steering the ship straight down!
is anyone in waterloo paying attention?!?!
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How do you say Non Disclosure Agreement in Portuguese?
Acordo de Confidencialidade
BlackBerry Passport
Kill it with fire! Make a great device into an Android device is blasphemy
I want peek gesture
Z10
I don't want a blackberry running android,but on the other side if they get something out combining both bb10 and android os and features like hub,blend and other blackberry's key features then I think they can beat samsung and iphone with only one device that is called slider,the app gap is still there on bb10 and if we get same features of our bb10 back plus secured android os then no one from us is gonna leave blackberry since its gonna attract new customers, and back in 09 they sold 52 million units so it's not wrong to say that most people who r using android devices today were loyal blackberry customers and they will be back, but simply going android is shit,i was using my friend's iphone 6 the other day and I gotta admit that in terms of typing swiping,the hub,physical keyboard of ma classic,iphone doesn't stand nearby,and only an idiot will compare blackberry with samsung,samsung has no class whatsoever,everyone I see is holding a cheap micromax or samsung bcoz of apps that we have to sideload on our blackberries
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The thing that impressed me the most is how snappy Droid was on the Passport.
Maybe releasing a device capable of two OSs wouldn't be a bad idea. Leave it to the buyer of the device to decide which one they want installed.
Autoloaders for everyone :)
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ANDROID IN MY OPINION IS TERRIBLE, BB10 IS THE BEST
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I sure hope this doesn't mean that BlackBerry kills it's OS or i'll have to completely change over to Windows Phone.
The BlackBerry Devices are very good but the BlackBerry OS makes them perfect, with Android as a OS it would just be some other pointless Device without own ideas or any special abilities.
CB10 and Z10, what a combination
Plz focus on the screen's boder, you can see that is the product of photoshop, easily to realise
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No. That's to block identifying information so the leaker does not get in trouble (and also to block people's personal info, like it the FB app and twitter app).
All these years we have BlackBerry® users talking about how good bbos10 is, how it is underrated. And now we have most of the same people talk about how they want android on their BlackBerry®.
ClassicSQC100-1/10.3.2.2339
It would be sad if BB10 go, but since BlackBerry can port some of its awesome Application like BlackBerry Hub, utilities, and securities features (BB suite) to Andriod. Then I am quite OK with it. The whole point of doing business is to make money and I think the company is stepping in the right direction. But, the thought of BlackBerry runs two OS coexist it is not far reach and unthinkable neither.
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I was looking forward to this and then I saw that when the fourth, on-screen keyboard row appears, it is ABOVE that awful looking triangle and circle home menu. The home menu should be above the fourth row. This will seriously disrupt typing.
Did JC not state that he'd be open to android on a BlackBerry device if could secure it ? Then why are we surprised that they have android running on BlackBerry devices ? How better to test the security and try to secure Android on BlackBerry devices than to install it on a device and try jail breaking / hacking it ?
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Don't call it (if anything, still waiting for 'our' editors and trusted friends hands on) anything but BabyBerry or BoyzBerry.
I'm an adult: I quit candies a few years ago.
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Boisenberry?
Droidenberry?
:-)
• BB10 -- Finger flickin' good... in any form factor! •
Can't there be an Android+BB10 OS coexistence using a Balance like switch?
I can't imagine they are ditching BB10 it's such a great OS and going back to pressing home or back keys instead of swiping between applications is a huge step back.
Curious to see if they manage introducing the gestures to Lollipop, mixing BB10's best features with Android?
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the only word i understood was blackberry
... and Passport?
:-)
• BB10 -- Finger flickin' good... in any form factor! •
My current contract is up on 30/08 and I was all set to get a BlackBerry Passport Silver, but not now. Ffs. I really wanted one, but want the BlackBerry OS, not bloody Android!
The current passport silver had bb10 not android. Aurgh. This is painful.
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Many thanks for the clarification, I'm so pleased I can me a silver passport now! Still don't like the idea of android on a BlackBerry though. Yuck! If by some chance my new passport comes with the android on it I'll have a fit!
This news is ridiculous. I don't need a google phone, I need a BlackBerry phone.
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Absolutely! I bought a BlackBerry because of OS 10. My wife had a Samsung Android and I hated that thing and was glad when she got rid of it. Now my son has an Android. What a mess Android is.
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Let's wait and see. I don't think it's the end of BB10 OS.
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I'm just praying that when they finish up their android, it has the bb10 gestures. I think gestures are the main reason why I love BB10, apart from maybe the hub. And as others have said, the android buttons are ugly....
I don't see why they couldn't do it, though. Though could be tricky. Home would be easy but they would need to add gestures for the other buttons....and there are only so many gestures that are actually doable!
Ex the two finger down swipe to bring in the quick settings while in an app...difficult to do right, and generally means having to slide both hands up to the top of the device....
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this is what's going to be available for all phones. http://global.blackberry.com/en/enterprise/blackberry-experience-suite.html
Thanks for the link.
I think it's too soon to speculate , the video doesn't show a BlackBerry heavily customised android, and I doubt that if they launch they would go with vanilla or minor customisation.
I think these leaks are for devices testing out android rather than prerelease ones.
I still think that the slider and passport2 and any other device to date will launch with BB10, and hopefully better integration with the OS and the HUB in particular.
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Very sad after saw it...what's meaning this? J.C. Lost his mind or what? I think that only Google services integration could be better...Who's matter Android on business productivity. I have also a Samsung S5 but I did put it on a box and I forget It.
Battery very short and at last I don't like Android. I should put Android on my Passport to play some game? I didn't make it! Apple shows better affordable: one mobile SO and one direction! This is the truth!
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You're nuts. BlackBerry selling itself to Google. A BlackBerry phone running Android... BlackBerry did the best OS not the best phones.
i've been loyal to BlackBerry for a long time, BlackBerry is not being loyal to itself: I HATE ANDROID, the worst OS ever.
this guy up here posts with a z10
As an exiled Nokia fanboy I will only say...
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Wide vision, from Chile.
I used to agree with you. Now, Microsoft would kill anything that has to do with BlackBerry devices except for the patents.
As blackberry operating system is brilliant with battery, will android kill our battery life?
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What's the big deal A passport running android Wow Android on a passport that going to be very interested Android is the future of BlackBerry And that's something we have to expect as BlackBerry 10 users
BB10 Z30
So there we have it: BlackBerry will hopefully reveal those Oslo and Venice Android devices at IFA Berlin (September 4th), I can't wait to see the final software!
I'd also like to ask those loyal BlackBerry customers to be open for new things. Android is NOT crap, you can make it crap by installing bullshit apps or let Google control your device, but you don't have to use Hangouts, YouTube, Docs or Gmail. But now you can install all your applications you were hoping to be ported to BB10 but were not, like Skype, Instagram, Telegram, Snapchat and hell even games and emulators we hoped to see on BB10.
Be open and curious for a great new chapter in BlackBerry history, I certainly am.
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And you think that Google data mines you only through youtube and gmail?
Video starts at 5 minute in if you want to jump to it..
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At this point I'm hoping my Original Black passport will get the android option..
I love BB10, But at this point I really want some apps that don't work side loading
Funny how he always says "Blackybeery" :D
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Sometimes it sounds Iike "Black Barry" lol
So the BlackBerry Silver edition running android was released as one in 100 devices of BlackBerry only for testing Android on BlackBerry? Or BlackBerry released an Android update for silver edition for the developers? Lot of questions in my mind.
Is it possible that BlackBerry will release an android OS update for other BlackBerry 10 devices if it gets success from Venice release??
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No, he says that there are only 4 BlackBerry Passport SE with this OS in the world.
BlackBerry Passport
So what happened to Oslo then? Is the project still on track or its already been killed? Would be interesting what this phone could do to BlackBerry device section survival.
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O one thing some newspapers here allready writting blackberry goes android
The attention it's getting outside of fan sites is great.
Everyone is saying how will BlackBerry differ themselves from other big brands like Samsung, HTC, And Sony. Here's one way...There fricken keyboard! Maybe not get to many but still a lot! Keyboards are still in demand and I don't want a comment below because of this reason, BlackBerry is still alive cuz of keyboards (And there amazing OS), Typo did very well, Samsung is now releasing a keyboard. There is still a demand BlackBerry may actually do really well in Android, and they can still keep bb10! The passport silver edition looked excellent and I actually liked it on Android! They will do well enough! Just keep the keyboards, and some higher end stuff for the touchscreen, but they will probably have more Keyboard fans!!!! BlackBerry is different and all ways will be with there cool features, and cool keyboards (Passport and classic can have the 13mp ois cameras and 1440x1440 or a bit more and do really well). Main reason people don't come to bb10 is cuz of apps like Snapchat, Netflix, etc Android will change that and in the long run it will help the Company!!
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Agreed.
I did not see the video in total because I wanted to see it boot ! The boot is the proof in runs Android. This could be a launcher that is filled up nicely. So still in the waiting room and I just order the Silver Passport and still believe we get BB 10.3.3.
I don't want to believe in PlayBook OS 2 disasters where we all been left alone by BlackBerry in any support.
We only need their apps. No lollipoop for me!
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BB10 died the day Chen decided to axe the consumer developer team.
Hoping it's a dual boot device. Curious users who came for Android would be tempted to try out BB10.
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It runs android, widgets and all, but has bb hub and bb security Gubbins . it even has a pull out carousel type widget a bit like what you get with the s pen on a galaxy note
Where the heck did he get the device software containing android from? :P hahahaha would be fun to load that on my classic and show it to me neighbours. :P
Typed using my BlackBerry Classic running 10.3.2 on WINDmobile HSPA+
Andro-Loaders will leak... eventually, I guess... :-)
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It looks weird cause we are not use to seeing android run on BlackBerry, I would have like to see the hub in this preview.
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Let's face it - BB10 is starting to look a lot like Crapdroid anyway, might as well go all in and ruin BlackBerry completely.
****wits.
Lots of rumour-mongering and speculation in the comments and all, but I don't see the end of BlackBerry 10 (QNX) any time soon happening at all. So relax. I'm not worried.
Typed using my BlackBerry Classic running 10.3.2 on WINDmobile HSPA+
I think I just threw up a little in my mouth. Android running on a BlackBerry....what is this world coming too?!
Oh stop being dramatic
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It's coming to 3 operating systems, like desktop.
Looks like this thread is full off failed fortune tellers trying to pretend they still have a skill. Lmao! You all pretend to know what is on the phone and what is not. You don't know what BlackBerry's plans are and your no better than apple junkies trying to guess what is coming in the next generation phone when the company just doesn't say. Ever think that BlackBerry is trying the same tactics? Boy they sure have you scrambling for ideas of what's to come.
I think I will wait and see that really happens in real life when it actually happens.
Cheers Great Buddas!
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With ya. Nice to know what is on the horizon but not sweating it. Will get their in due course.
Don Diego endorses the Zed and weilds a Silver.
When is john Chen going to address the bb10 faithful?
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When it is necessary/forced and/or suits their agenda/objective
Don Diego endorses the Zed and weilds a Silver.
Regardless of it being fake or official, what makes it worse is the fact that there's no effin words whatsoever from BlackBerry. Like they don't care that they are on the verge of losing loyalist customers because of it. It's a god damned courtesy to say something at this point.
BlackBerry Passport SQW100-1/10.3.2.2339 on Telkomsel Network
Sometimes saying something causes more damage. Not because someone makes and accusation or assumption means you have to respond. I will continue to enjoy my BB10 devices regardless of the outcome.
Don Diego endorses the Zed and weilds a Silver.
They can only play the waiting game card for so long, bro. Sometimes, silence damages even more. It's snowballing downhill from here on out. And like I said, at this point, it's a matter of courtesy. Either they say something, or urge the slider time table ASAP. And even then they still need to say something.
This is really no different than the fact that Samsung has both Android and Windows phones in their product line. So now BlackBerry has both BlackBerry 10 devices and Android devices. So, big woop!
Rock'n the awesome Z30 STA100-5 on 10.3.2.2168
^this !
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Blackberry has always been more like apple... It has always controlled both hardware and software. Samsung only controls hardware it borrows software from google or "lends" its hardware to microsoft. By brining android into the mix blackberry is diminishing its value in my opinion. BB10 > Android in every way.
Interesting, but unfortunately I didn't understand a word he was saying!
Rock'n the awesome Z30 STA100-5 on 10.3.2.2168
Passport!
:-D
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Bull***t!
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Work and Play should be divided as follows:
BB OS 10 for Work and Android for play. Switching between the two should be done by a touch of a button on the screen and should be instant. A pure android phone would mean Blackberry has given up. Might as well exit the hardware business altogether or sell itself to microsoft...
How I wish this is the thing! I would buy the Slider even if it is not made for my hands
If technically possible, this solution would be logical.
BB10 would securely store sensitive data on separate parts of the sim/sd card while data gathered by Android could remain available for Google's (data mining) purposes.
I just HOPE BlackBerry won't reserve pure BlackBerry experience (BB10) for enterprise.
BTW, not only Microsoft might be involved in "chasing" BlackBerry. Also Google and Apple have a lot at stake.
I would just add - to guarantee "sufficient" conditions for privacy, BlackBerry developed and secured web browser is a MUST!
Majority of "sensitive" data is collected while you browse web. BlackBerry should offer browser with ad/tracking free features. The browser should also enable hide/change your IP address.
Such browser - integrated into BB10 - could change the rules of the game.
It could. As long as BlackBerry manage to get back in "the game". I guess it's a bit desperate move from Chen to get BlackBerry be noticeable in the market again. But then again, the move is like a double edge sword if they won't release any plans for BB10 in the future.
I agree. The bB10 browser is not secure against data mining.
This is worth a try before that happens.
If they remove the 'swipe to minimise/wake' feature, then I'm out.
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Swipe to wake causes pocket calling. Swipe to minimize does not work well for camera. Why would you like these two features?
No pocket dialing for me.
And I have absolutely no idea what you're referring to with regard to the camera. Swipe to minimize has never ever been any problem whatsoever for me when using the camera. I honestly can't even imagine what so-called "problem" you could possibly have with that???
A problem not happening to you does not mean it will not happen to other people. I have a Z10 and Z30, both having swiping up problems for camera. The problem may not happen every time but when it happens, it just kills me. I am using BB10 camera a lot and I have to say this is a big bug for BB10.
I'm afraid you are in to an inevitable decision.
That video is not real. Look closely and you will see the edit.
They removed / pixelated the PIN watermark on the side?
That would probably even give it more cred, if you ask me... :-D
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Where's Kevin anyway?
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Italy...
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They removed / pixelated the PIN watermark on the side?
That would probably even give it more cred, if you ask me... :-D
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Sorry \/ was meant for below... :-)
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The guy says it: he got it from a friend in Canada (Waterloo) and there are only FOUR units running Android. That means: an internal test device.
What amazes me the most: the stubborness of Android while trying to run apps in a square screen. At least the keyboard port is complete, and my doubts about the camera were answered.
I think we need more "fact checks" coming out of BlackBerry.
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They "checked" only 5 facts this year. But that's not a bad idea.
I'm selling my BBRY as you read this. Totally disappointed the way decisions are being done and the said security is changed so that Google has all your information. The change started with 10.2 which had their Gmail access changed so you give permission through Google instead of accessing the mail directly, I'm fed up with information being leaked to them and it's even worse on Android since every app asks for all permissions including contacts sometimes for no reason other than selling it to third parties.
If I don't see an upgraded Z10 with better specs, which is what a ton of people have been waiting for 2 years, I'm completely abandoning this company.
The feeling is not mine, but from thousands of people that feel the same way.
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Are you still using gmail？Doen't it already give your information to goolge?
Head over to Android Central and check out the piece from Chris Parsons. Lots of positive feedback from non BlackBerry users.
Thousands of people. Hardly a drop in the marketshare bucket. And BlackBerry seriously needs more of them. Hopefully Android helps BBRY recover.
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Interesting development.
Posted Via CA Governor's BlackBerry Passport.
Last thing I want is for BB10 to be converted to another launcher
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Say goodbye to your personal information.
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Maybe the consumer devices will run android with a little BB10 mixed in and the enterprise devices will still run a full version of BB10.
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I would miss the hub though :/
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Looks like this is the end of BB10. If I wanted an Android powered device I would buy a Samsung, HTC,LG,Nexus,etc. Most people who buy BlackBerry devices, buy them for the experience of BB10. I just feel like this is a slap in the face to all of the BlackBerry Loyalists who have stuck with the company.
No it is not end of BB10. BBRY said they are committed to BB10. If they do make Android phones, that is because they need help from Android phones to keep their hardware business.
We havent seen any leaks for BlackBerry 10.4,yet we're seeing a bunch of leaks about BlackBerry running Android? I do hope BlackBerry stays commited to BB10, but right now It doesn't look like it.
Where do people get this 10.4 nonsense from ???? Next update is 10.3.3......
"BlackBerry 10.3.2 is coming soon to our customers in the rest of the world. So look for the notification on the BlackBerry Hub that the update is ready for you to download.
We’re already working on the follow-up update, BlackBerry 10.3.3 and will keep you posted over the coming months."
BlackBerry makes better phones than every company you just named
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Just please keep the hub! For the love of sanity.
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It's just the beginning of blackberry not the end
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I remember someone said that when BB10 were intorduced
Now they have a team that might not botch this. That's the difference.
After laying off half the company? What team?
Not sure.. feel a little sadness coming over me.
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It is the best Android phone that comes with software components offered by BBRY, including hub and security. It will do free advertisement for BB10 once it comes to the market. It will also help BBRY make money so that BBRY can continue improving BB10.
Stock android isn't bad at all, if only blakberry could pull of a near stock android install with hub and BlackBerry os gestures... it would be awesome.
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This. So much Android bashing, but have half these people tried a Kitkat or newer stock rom? Seems they're basing their opinions on older or reskinned Androids. They sound a lot like people who bash BB for being outdated/irrelevant, through the lens of OS6 or 7 or something. :)
I love BB10, but enjoy recent Android OSes too and want to see BB succeed.
Doing away the the bb10 hub? The hub is the reason I stuck with BlackBerry.
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it comes with BB10 hub.
Probably minus the gestures?
:-(
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Just because it has Android doesn't necessarily mean it will have all Google features, right? Android is open source, isn't it?
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I have very mixed emotions right now. I feel like a 16 year old girl before the big night.
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I'm....not sure how this makes me feel
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Is Android that much better than the BlackBerry OS? I never had an android, and the tablets I've played around with weren't that interesting OS wise.
Posted with my Passport.
Android is more "do what you want" and in the process it becomes a mess handling the files, home screen and UI. If you are able to get through that, you have to deal with battery and occasional stutter. Plus the security makes you wonder from time to time. Compare to BB10, it's like iOS, but the way you move in the UI was carefully thought out hence accomplishing of what you want to do in the OS made in just few seconds or clicks
I don't get why everyone thinks BlackBerry 10 is dead. BlackBerry hardware with BlackBerry 10 Os right now has gone through all the DOD and governmental testing and is approved and certified on the governmental and DOD networks. BlackBerry android would have to go through all those rigorous testing and gain approval before being certified. It's a no brainer. BlackBerry 10 with BES for government and corporate use, BlackBerry android for the consumer. If BlackBerry kills off BlackBerry 10, they loose all those lucrative government, DOD, etc contracts. Chen even stated he is still committed to BlackBerry 10 Os. So please stop all the frigging BlackBerry 10 is dead crap. The sun will rise tomorrow. The moon is still in the sky. Life ain't over.
Rocking a Z30 on Verizon
You have some valid points there! It just seems BlackBerry has lost their identity though.. they have latched on to other big companies to survive instead of surviving on what they started with.. Which nowadays seems like the only option.. give the customers what they want! They will satisfy everybody this way.. BlackBerry is not just a smartphone now.. It is a brand that is being stamped everywhere now. They are what they provide. Security. On all platforms. This decision to go Android will only keep the company going! It's difficult to accept, but these are the times..
I definitely agree with what you say also. I think it's a smart move with Android on a BlackBerry handset. It will absolutely bring people back to BlackBerry hardware. I'm even willing to try the Android slider. But I really do think BlackBerry 10 will still be around for government and corporate contracts. So, have an Android BlackBerry or go full BlackBerry with Os10. I see it as a win-win for BlackBerry and a smart move on Chens part to bring back customers to BlackBerry.
Rocking a Z30 on Verizon
If it is a plan to bring back people to BlackBerry, it's fine. But for all those who experienced the Hub and other BB10 key features under consumer market, we are locked on to older devices, specs and bugs on 10.3.1,2. If there's no plans on improving the OS, it can be considered as dead. Dead for another months? years? until they finally open the beta testing again. People who liked the BB10 as for myself can't continue to support the new device release because there's nothing more to expect from the OS.
Thank you! I just hope more people listen to you.
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I don't think that we get that Android showed in the video...all BlackBerry features are missing...let's wait and see...we will soon get answers to all of the questions...
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I am OK if BlackBerry plan to adopt Android. BlackBerry doesn't do many marketing and the phone dialer lag and dial is can't be fixed. In my opinion, if BlackBerry had planned to launch Venice and if it is true, just say, "Yes, we plan it, just wait for the time."
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ul,, "
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:( I hope bb10 will live on but it is looking unlikely.
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Lollipop is inferior to BlackBerry 10.3.2.
If I had wanted an Android I would be bought one. Android is a mess.
If Mr. Chen had put as much money into marketing BlackBerry smartphones as mentioned had in trying to make Android better, we would have seen an upsurge of BlackBerry sales.
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I just want BB10 with Google services. I don't want to give up on this amazing OS. If I have to run Android, I'd just get a Samsung device.
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Yeah, I'd love to give Android a shot on my current Passport. Hopefully it becomes an optional upgrade for current users!
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The more I think of this, the more it make sense for the survival of the company. I don't really care if it runs Android in the background with real access to Google play . If what i am seeing now is it can run the three BlackBerry productivity suites which I hope give me the same BlackBerry UI experience. Best of both world for me !
Another nutshot for BB10 fans. Almost feel sorry for them.
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They'll get over it.
Don't need a os android in my awesome device, dont need a android OS in my business, come on, no way...ughhh terrible idea!! just keep the google service if you want, but don't change the futurist OS10
I suspect we will see all current BlackBerry phones (even a lower priced z30) available and running a secure Android(marshmallow). This is probably what enticed all US carriers to pick up these phones at launch. That, plus some marketing and even endorsement by Google at their marshmallow launch and you've got a recipe for handset sales like they BlackBerry hasn't had for years. Just a thought...
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If it come with Blackberry Hub, BB Email, Keyboard and it's security, I actually don't mind to use it.
That's not a bad option.
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It looks great on android cool stuff nice blackberry
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We need the autoloader!
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Andro-Loader!
:-D
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lovely
Ugh. Terrible
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I just want the apps
Man! I might buy this instead of the slider! It's gonna be a tough choice!
You have two hands :p
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But the pp is a 2handed device :P
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Yeah but I don't have $1200 to spend on phones I can only use on the weekend. :D
I still think I will stay with BlackBerry os 10
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i like how this hideous device looks even worse android. they really have to do something about the virtual keys... you cant possibly take up 1/10 of the screen for 3 freakin buttons on a passport
It actually looks nice I didn't like it at first but now I love it its the best phone out there and I want one so bad!
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No that guy is right. It's hideous. Especially running android. Can't understand how people failed to see how much better bb10 is.
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People didn't know about it. Those that did returned it due to lack of apps and/or difficulty of use.
Difficulty of use - you really have to be a tool to find it difficult to use. However, lack of apps - that's a real problem. That alone is what sealed BlackBerry 10 faith.
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I'll take one please.
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I've been using my Z10 since February 2013 and I don't think I've had an issue with it yet(unlike the ******* torch). I really only want Google Play(yes I know I can get it) but otherwise I don't like the Android OS
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