Although BlackBerry OS 10.3.3 was already known to be coming at some point, thanks to an early mention on the Inside BlackBerry Blogs, the rumors of the upcoming Android-powered BlackBerry Priv caused many to wonder if it would ever really see release. Addressing that concern, without actually saying he was addressing that concern, BlackBerry CEO John Chen laid out the plans for BlackBerry OS 10.3.3 to be launched in March 2016.
While the new device will provide a choice in OS to new and existing customers, the company remains committed to the BlackBerry 10 operating system, which enables industry-leading security and productivity benefits. Second, the company will continue to develop and enhance the BlackBerry 10 operating system and is confirming plans to release platform updates focused on security and privacy enhancements, with version 10.3.3 scheduled to be available in March 2016.
As we know it, there's already a few builds of 10.3.3 that have appeared in server logs and such but right now, there's no indication on any additional improvements that may be added to the OS outside of the mentioned security and privacy enhancements.
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BlackBerry OS 10.3.3 scheduled to be released in March 2016
Actually i am a BB fan . but i hating BB when i watch one video . they are removing password with a security wipe . If anybody Thief our BB They can use our phone . Then what the FK Security are BB Giving ? Blackberry like android only . give us a solution for this problem in next update .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVMp01y8edU
I'm used BlackBerry z10. I have 10.3.2.556OS. I want new OS.
Come on Chen give us the BB10 slider!!!
March 2016, patiently waiting, I wonder though the 10.3.3 OS will come with. On the part of Security & Privacy enhancement that's a perfect job to BlackBerry Company & it's consumers.
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My blackberry q10 haven't gotten the 10.3.1 update why
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Old BlackBerry 10 devices should also get option for OS.
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They should commit to bringing back all the things they forgot from OS7
Kings don't bow. H. Furioso
I'm keeping the BlackBerry 10 OS... as for Android needs... I have a Nexus 7 tablet... but it's on the shelf... the PRIV does raise curiosity though... :-)
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No worries... BB10 OS for business... BlackBerry Android for consumers... let it be... embrace the variety... I'm hoping this brings new riches to BlackBerry... far to many 10's out there for Chen to fade out BlackBerry 10 OS...
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march 2016 for a minor update....lol
They'd better stay with BlackBerry 10 OS. Better off than the droid... ;)
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Hopefully I will still have my Blackberry Passport If I didn't switch off into the Blackberry Priv as it seems to start attracting me.
Rubbish. Just get Google services working pls.
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So that is going to be the end of BlackBerry 10 OS. :'( Android is great but let these phones live.
BlackBerry 2B9B4E35
I can't imagine that Android can be really secured like BB10. If it *really* can then I would have no problem moving over to something like the Priv or an Android-powered Passport (if such a thing will ever exist).
Look, this has happened before. BlackBerry moved from the Java-powered BB7 to QNX-powered BB10, maybe the next move is an Android-powered device.
The key element, for me anyway, is how secure they can really make it and how much they can keep Google from monitoring everything you do. Remember the Blackphone? It is based on Android and claims to be ultra secure and private.
https://www.silentcircle.com/
We shall see....
The beta max of mobile OS. What a shame!
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There is no reason why Blackberry can continue to support and develop new Devices. The BB10 OS is now stable and secure, so it won't take too much resources to keep it updated and current.The problem is there will be no new apps for BB10 and a lot of them may be discontinued. So that's the trade off. For example they could run BB10 OS on the new slider, but no new apps. For many people that could be a problem. I wish there were banking apps but there aren't any. There are quite a few useful apps that cannot be had, on BB10. That is the real problem. Last quarter Blackberry showed sales of only 800,000 devices, that includes all BB10 devices. That's pathetic. That means only a hand full of people are buying BB10 devices. How do you expect Blackberry to launch new BB10 devices with sales like that. They need to sell 2-3 million devices per quater to make money on BB10 smartphones.
Okay, so now that the QWERTY and SliderDroid fans are being satisfied, let us now move on. The next group of dedicated BB fans have been waiting for the high end Full Touch device with BB10 or 11, with 10.4. and a Dark Hub. Let's keep the name of this new device simple for those marketing guru's.....how about something unique like, say.. Z50!!....this will be the perfect replacement device for my aging but still rock'n... Z10....
Honestly Santa, I've been good!...and now it looks like I'll have to wait until Spring!...here bunny, bunny.....just say'n...
I hear a dark theme will be included ;) lol...
Posted via THE Blackberry Classic
There is no doubt that the new slider can run BB10 OS, it's just that BB does not intend to do that. The problem is that with the BB10 slider you would not have Google play store, ie (1.6 million apps). So as usual very few pweplw will buy it.
What other features would they need to add. The BB10 OS is now very stable, and pretty well does what you would expect a great OS to do. I can see after this release that any new releases will be the odd improvement, and security of bug fixes. Like they say "if it ain't broken don't fix it".
No mention of a BlackBerry 10 version of the slider running 10.3.3 by March, 2016, or any time soon. It would have been interesting to see sliders with both OSes, to see which sells better. Hopefully it's not too late for BlackBerry to realize both enterprise and consumers, especially the existing ones, want choice.
Posted via CB 10 | STA100-3 Z30 | OS 10.3.2.858
I truly hope they return the ability to take a picture without the need for a special button. I loved click "anywhere ".
And for Christ sake...fix or Re-do the contact apps...anytime I upgrade or switch a device it's a flipping disaster.
Other than that..All good!
Posted Via 1 of 2..Z30's...the Ultimate 5" All Touch
If I wanted android OS, I'd buy a samsung galaxy, why blackberry is doing this? want a weak os?
Also, why not just release Slider in both versions, Android and BB10? Nothing to lose, a lot to gain. HTC did it successfully in past.
I thought BB10 was already pretty secure and private. What we need is some new features and finish the stuff that is half baked only. A lot of potential but quite slow execution, especially lately. :-(
Bug fix release only. Mark my words.
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Of course Chen had to say this. But there is now no vision for bb10. If so, what is it?
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Does this mean we have another, or a one last chance, to get the calendar right? Maybe get the growing numbers to work on weekends like it did in 10.2?... #goingbackwards
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Will BlackBerry release a software update whereby existing BlackBerry 10 users will be able to update to get android as an OS of choice?
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Does anyone have issue with stereo speakers after updating to 10.3.2...my Z30 left speaker volume got reduced to very low!
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I think it would be kinda cool to have a dark hub option and a squircle.
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No bb10 no Priv for me. Perhaps there is more to this than we see. I will not buy android in anyone's phone and no iOS from Apple. If there is no bb10 then I will look at windows
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Looking forward to getting my update in August 2016! : )
Yeah, lets wait patiently :)
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please release the android for passport if you abandon the lovely BlackBerry 10 OS. But please do not abandon our passport it's a great device perfect for me.
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If they do not fix this call lag issue, before the Holidays, I am going to start looking for another alternative. It sucks to not be able to answer the phone in a normal/proper manner
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+1 To be honest, this is most telling of the way BlackBerry HAS (with BB OS 10.x.x) and how they WILL (with Android Lolipop or possibly Marshmellow) operate as a software company. To be clear, this means they are INEPT and lack the skills necessary to be taken seriously in software development while they bleat "security, security, security". I mean come on, if they can't fix a simple CALL LAG bug in the most basic of phone features this late in the game with BB 10, how can anyone EVER trust them to make a secure Android OS let alone a functional one in it's most basic form?
March means July. Don't forget. Lol.
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Re: Priv announcement = Scotiabank’s Daniel Chan asked him (Chen) whether this meant it was time to throw in the towel on BB10, which has been out for three years and has failed to connect with consumers. “We’ll have to make sure that Android is successful first,” said Mr. Chen.!!
Really silly! :-/
Wow every time I read comments. It's like the skip the article and just go off the Headline. Read it people. Run time isn't going away, BB10 IS continuing. Option of both OS won't be a dual boot device. It just means there are more options.
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I'm waiting patiently for the release and once it is released, i'll update my classic with it affordingly. :)
Keep on rocking BlackBerry and we know bb10 (Qnx) is not going away anytime soon either.
Typed using my BlackBerry Classic running 10.3.2 on WINDmobile HSPA+
I need a new phone and narrowed it down to note 4 or iphone6 ....but then I found a live blackberry passport hidden in a corner of Carphone warehouse...wow! Why has this not been marketed or advertised? I really want to go for it but now I'm concerned that it has no longevity?
Blame the carrier/device reseller.
Typed using my BlackBerry Classic running 10.3.2 on WINDmobile HSPA+
I've yet to find one in Carphone Warehouse.
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Trafford Centre Manchester....
BlackBerry 10 OS will endure, the slider Android proves the flexibility of BlackBerry, in meeting its business objectives. Let us wait and see the Market reaction upon release.
Posted via CB10 through BlackBerry 10 Passport SE smartphone
I don't care. I'm hours away from becoming an iSheep, so I just don't care.
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that means we all will be having anoride os in all black berry 10 os running mobile ??
So far, I have not received the update to 10.3.2. xxx Z10 (brasil). I check every day.
People keep mentioning dark hub! In the accessibility settings turn on reverse contrast!
My lubbly jubbly Z10. Shine on you crazy BlackBerry
This is just going to be life support for bb10 OS. No way will they keep BB10 lay off 200 people related to bb10 and promote android too. Google will want the attention to continue this partnership and bb10 users will be holding bricks for phones.
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Hmm, so this is would either mean that they will continue developing BB10 and BB10 devices or is just a "chill down" for us true BB10 users to not blame them in forums and social media for the fact they let us down again (?) by jumping to the stupidroi...I mean Android ship.
We'll see!
I think BlackBerry is in wait-and-see mode with respect to BB10. If the Priv sells like hotcakes and the BB10 handset sales continue to decline then I think they will slowly transition to Android. But if the Priv helps reinvigirate BB10 handset sales then they may continue to develop it.
I expect that when the Priv debuts we'll see BlackBerry begin promoting its handsets much more heavily. Hopefully with advertising and better availability sales of BB10 handsets will justify their cobtinued existence.
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So, just maintenance?
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So you can choose BB10 or Android essentially?
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Six months? 6? months? Companies have gone out of business in less time! I don't think I'll hold my breath for that one (although I dearly yearn for BB10 improvements and increases popularity)...
Awesome!
All this hope they've now created, and nothing to back it up. I don't expect to see any new hardware on 10.3.3. It's just a maintenance update. It's supposedly going to add additional privacy. How is that? What'd be really ironic is if they remove the Android runtime in the name of privacy, considering they are building an Android phone named Priv (for privacy).
Hopefully this won't be the last update.
Hope 10.3.3 lets email signatures use html. I want my company logo appended to my signature. Really pee's me off that email signatures can only be textual
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Blackberry says that they will continue to develop and maintain BB10 but there's no commitment to a new BB10 phone. The new Android phone(s) will cannibalise enough of BB10 sales for BlackBerry to say there's no point in producing any more BB10 phones. It doesn't look good for those of us who want a new high end all touch. Just saying, but I hope I'm wrong.
Wow... I love updates!!!!
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The problem is, it is hard to get bb10 devices.... I have two z30's, but I would not have gotten them from my provider, they do not offer them....
This has to change, shit, I have seen more bb10 devices in the wild that windows phone devices, how come, WTF????
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It's dead people, we need to get over it.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/3533876-blackberrys-smartphone-os-is-dea...
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I'll just make a note of this in my Calendar....
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Does this mean now BB10 will stick around...and not force us to droidberry devices.
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They will continue to develop bb10..there is no doubts abt it. Droidberry is just another way of getting customers bk.
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I suppose that confirms BlackBerry is not going to update or pursue BB10 past the so-called 'security' updates.
It's the PlayBook all over again and this is good buy to a wonderful OS. Android by the very make up of the apps, plus the lack of scrutiny of apps in their app store, make it the most vulnerable echo system.
Even with the back end security of BlackBerry, an android running phone is wide open for abuse. And I for one would never run any banking or personal information application on an android.
In the immortal words of Douglas Adams, "So long and thanks for all the fish"
And good luck to BlackBerry, for they are not long for this world. (I know, a bit mellow dramatic and over the top, but what the hell. As soon as my z30 konks out I'll have no choice but to bite the Apple)
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Oh, and one final thought... why would a developer continue to create or update BlackBerry apps if the OS is on its way out?
We will see a drastic decline in BB10 app development beginning now.
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This is very stupid from BB, indeed. :-(
There are others options to choose beside Apple and Android : Windows 10 Mobile, Sailfish, Ubuntu, Tizen, Firefox OS...
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I don't think they well remove the android runtime because they have a lot of apps in BlackBerry word that or ported android apps if they removed the runtime a lot of blackberry word apps wood stop working!!
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BB10 OS rules them all. BB10 Slider come to me Papa.
Will there be a push of 10.3.3 to OG Passports & wll it have an android runtime upgrade to a higher version? Will it remove android runtime from OG Passports? Will the OG Passport owner have a choice of BlackBerry OS or the Android BlackBerry version? Will there be a way back in case of unhappiness?
Bumpkin
Please bring dark themes 10.3
iPhone 5 16GB Black
A lot more interesting would be when we get a BlackBerry Priv running 10.3.x :-)
Oh yea...please BlackBerry, make the icons and text a tad bit bigger on the next update. I liked the size of the icons in 10.2, just a bit smaller than that would be ideal.
Posted w/an awesome Z10.
RIM hasn’t released an SDK for the next rev either. Just saying....
Cdn Z30
It would be wonderful if the calendar and contacts sync again, like they did (or hopefully better) when I had my Bold 9700. I use my calendar EVERY DAY, and to still be unable to sync those two components with my desktop Outlook is beyond frustrating. Oh, and yeah, I hope to get the updated 10.3.2xxx before 10.3.3. In a perfect world, AT&T would actually care.
Not ashamed of the 'Berry I carry. BlackBerry by choice!
Then you should get a hosted exchange mail account for $10 a month.
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I'd definitely like a Passport with Android on it. Imagine seeing a beautiful weather widget on the big beautiful screen as soon as you unlock it! Dark hub, dark everything for that matter. Nice processor, 16mp rc, 8mp fc, same backing material as the Z10, charger port on the bottom of the phone (unlike the Z10). You get the gist....
Posted w/an awesome Z10.
My z10 is still at 10.3.1 :(
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My Z10 too
I just want wifi calling enabled again through TMobile!
Posted on my New BlackBerry Classic
They are still committed to bb10 they are releasing a new high end...... oh nope sorry you get a new pos android phone or choose from the 2 year old bb10 phones. Now that is a way to keep customers??
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Which blackberry phone is that on top???
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Dunno... maybe a Leap...
But I see 4 icons per row...
Running an older OS version!?!
Workhorse: BlackBerry|Q10, SQN100-3, OS 10.3.2.2639; Power Workhorse: BlackBerry|Passport, SQW100-1, OS 10.3.2.2639 ; Germany.
Exact thing i asked myself. Looks a bit too big to be the Leap, and not bulky enough to be the Priv. New, unmentioned device possibly?
Posted w/an awesome Z10.
Maybe we are in for a good surprise eitherway!!! I would love to flaunt that phone. It's not a z30, leap or z3 for sure.
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Providing only security and bugfixing in half a year I think BlackBerry just confirmed that it won't really work on BB10 anymore but will keep long term support for the platform. That's OK for me. If the Priv is successful BlackBerry will surely continue BB10 development.
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Are BB10 devices going to get the same love that PlayBooks got? I hope not.
Posted from a Z10 on the Rogers network.
I have to say that given the sales number for the past year, I understand why Blackberry is trying with an Android device. I will certainly look for the slider with BB10, but will invest some time looking at the droid version to see the pros and cons in detail. I truly hope they offer a dual mode, but realise that's simply asking too much. Geez, 800K units for a bloody year! I hate to say it, but when Apple complains about being 300K shy of a target IN A QUARTER and that's at 48 million units and projected 12 million for this weekend alone...it's hard to stay enthusiastic about Blackberry without being wary.
That is 800k in a quarter... 3.2M a year if sales stay the same
Passport SE
I'd be happy if there was a 3-way boot on the Venice/Priv :
BB10 only
BB10 with Android with Hub and Curved glass functions
Android only
But then again, that would be too much of a game changer..
GoZuma
I think BlackBerry is just giving us 2 options now. An android OS or BlackBerry OS. They'll offer both and go from there. Doesn't mean that they are getting rid of BB10
Big like for future BB10 offerings.
Tim Smith from my Z10 on Rogers
This and the news of the developer site refresh are good signs for bb10. I was seriously losing all hope, and feeling distinctly PlayBook rerun.
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Go BlackBerry! Thanks for not forgetting the people who love and are loyal to BB10!
From my Z10 with love.
Riiiight....
So for VZW maybe 2017
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I want more goddamm APIs for developers!
10.3.3 will be like the playbook BB10 upgrade, Everyone will expect it and demand it to fix a slew of problems then poof sorry we won't be releasing it. At least for the most part bb10 works ok.
Great news! I would love to see a new cool features on BlackBerry OS 10.3.3 like a Weather update (Temperature) on the home screen. Thank you!
Sent via Awesome White BlackBerry Z30. BlackBerry Priv my top choice for secured Android powered smartphones.
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BB10 is End of Life.
If makes perfect sense to run a secure Blackberry service on top of Android.
It has been done before with success.
Novel had Netware which some think was way better than Microsoft's server product.
Now Novel's Open Enterprise Server runs on top of SUSE Linux. Less driver and development costs.
Grab a Passport now and hope for a software update to replace BB10 on that device.
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It's clear from these comments that the 10.3.3 comment is a glass half full / glass half empty announcement, depending on your perspective. Users who are happy with their BB10 phones, as they work currently, are relieved that they should continue to work for the foreseeable future. Users who want BB10 to be improved and/or actively compete with Android and iOS for market share are frustrated by the slowdown in the pace of development.
Personally, I have no complaints about how my Z10 works now. It will make it to three years, which is my basic requirement for a work phone (though it also works great as my personal phone.)
Depending on what happens between now and the release of 10.3.3, I'll decide whether to upgrade to a Passport, a Priv, Windows 10 phone, or another Android. I can't see myself ever using an iPhone as it's just too focused on locking me down to Apple are vices and selling me stuff I don't even remotely want.
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Long live blackberry!!! Looking forward to have 10.3.3...
As stated already, Chen not only confirmed 10.3, but 10.4 as well.
Yeah baby!!! 10.3.3!!!
I'm still waiting for 10.3.2 for my Passport!!!
Demobigen (Powered by Blackberry® Passport)
Grow a pair, load it yourself!
Good to know. Then I'll buy the S10 ;-P
i. e. Slider running it!
BlackBerry|Q10, SQN100-3, OS 10.3.2.2639; BlackBerry|Passport, SQW100-1, OS 10.3.1.2480
Seems like they are turning away from BlackBerry 10 os just as they moved away from legacy os. They are just waiting for BlackBerry android powered handset to outnumber their existing users base and also real figure of their new strategy becomes available, before they make any definitive move. Their 10.3.3 being made available some where around March is to hold their loyal customer switching to other brands if their strategy of launching android powered phone fails. Once this strategy is successful 10.4 update would never come in existence and all BlackBerry 10 device would be useless very much like legacy BlackBerry devices.
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Chen on the earnings call said he was 'very happy' to switch to Android as long as it outsells BB10 - well BB10 sells 800,000 units a quarter so that ain't a hard target.
It's not hard to o cause when did BlackBerry release a high end devise???? We are still waiting
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"Despite calls from some analysts for BlackBerry to scrap its own operating system, the company said it doesn't plan to make those sweeping changes — at least for now.
“There is a very loyal base in BB10, especially the government, and some highly regulated industry customers, so we will have to see whether we can make money on that base,” Chen said.
“If our plan of doing the BlackBerry-Android type of implementation works well, and the security side of the equation is well accepted by the government and this space, of course we could then replace or merge them.”
http://www.thestar.com/business/2015/09/25/blackberry-results-miss-alrea...
Consumer reception to BB10 has been lukewarm at best. Company survival is primary; what is Chen supposed to do?
I wonder if we have First leaks at the forum.
Thanks Thorsten Heins for BlackBerry 10.
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The best feature is it a coming!!!!
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Great. I don't mean to replace my Passport SE at least for the next three years (unless there'll be Passport v.2) so I'd like to see BB10 maintained and its Android run time subsystem staying intact at least for that time.
Posted via CB10/BB PP SE.
Even when they confirmed that 10.3.3 is coming and bb10 is not being abandoned you guys still find a way to bring BlackBerry down, seriously just go away and buy some other phone if you are so unhappy with what blackberry is trying to do,as simple as that.
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There are some of us that see the writing on the wall. Supporting and maintaining an OS isn't the same as continuing developing it. BlackBerry have laid off BB10 developers and stopped posting SDK road maps and stopped moving BlackBerry 10 to Qt5. How many more signs do you need to understand that BB10 will continue to work, but is at a dead end for future development other than fixes and security updates.
If you are so unhappy with what they are doing and if you think you have all the answers just move on to other platforms, thats what I'm trying to say,it looks like you will never be happy with the direction they are going,so just go buy and I sheep or another android.
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Smh fanboy
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He laid out reasons and you're being childish.
......and as a consumer only (I know devs don't like it), I'm ok with that. For me, BB10 has matured to the point where NO great changes are even needed. But, then again, I don't use many android apps. I can see security and maintenance updates in the near future are all that I need but I know that is not good enough for most people. I pretty much called this weeks ago. This OS we have today HAS matured.
There's no PGP support. Google Talk app hasn't been updated for ages while it has quite a few issues. WiFi signal reception regressed from 10.2.1. And the list goes on. Clearly there's a lot to be done but apparently the efforts slowed down significantly. :-|
BB10 is definitely in maintenance mode. As Bluenoser63 pointed out, SDK roadmaps are no longer published, the push for Qt5 in BB10 has stopped, there seem to be few interesting updates...
Look: Chen has to make a play. It was obvious that BB10 didn't have traction, and throwing good money after bad is a waste. Maybe things will change in the future, but as it stands right now it's more important that BlackBerry as a company survive and start building up a war chest so that they can identify new opportunities and markets - whatever those are.
You mad bro?
Agree, some people seriously need some help
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What do you think the majority of us are going to do???
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"While the new device will provide a choice in OS to new and existing customers". There we have it.
excellent...long live Blackberry :)
Too far :( hope it comes 4 q10 though
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Into the deep freezer with BB10 - this is "patch mode"
Yup, so far away.
If they're waiting that long to release 10.3.3, why don't they just call it 10.4 and develop it until then? Hmm seems like 10.3.3 will be bug fixes and no Android runtime.
Posted via CB10
Develop it with what ? I doubt there is much of if any BB10 development team left within BlackBerry. If Chen had any confidence in BB10 he wouldn't have introduced an Android phone.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
Are you for real? Consumers have spoken on BB10 - they are not buying it for whatever reasons. Chen is a realist....company survival over a singular platform that has seen luke-warm consumer acceptance.
The developers were probably moved from BB10 dev to BBandroid dev while getting the Priv OS done and to market.
There's no reason they can't balance the development again once it's out there.
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It's the most innovative OS on the market! Would be a shame if it just fades away...Hope they stick with it!
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Right
Z30 / STA100-2 /10.3.2.2639
+1
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They just released a SE
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...so if they want to see it fly off the shelves they better continue working on OS10
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Outstanding! Hopefully they remain on task with that news as I know BlackBerry typically strays from dating releases for the pure reason that they seldom keep to a schedule and when they fail to meet the projected schedule the doom and gloomers begin their tirades... Would be nice to see them say March and then promptly stick it so the naysayers out there have less to analyze with scrutiny...
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So we're waiting 6 months for our next OS update, which really doesn't contain anything useful? Also, no new BB10 devices to announce for at least the same amount of time? Safe bet that they won't be in the handset game after 2016.
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Great news, now if they would only hype up there BlackBerry 10 OS as much as they have the Venice or whatever it's going to be called they may start selling again.
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Then it will be delayed another 6 months
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Ah, a Verizon user, I see.
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Haha that's funny and sadly true
10.3.3 only will ad some security and privacy updates...
So basicly it's like with the playbook.
Runtime might be done.
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So you either have privileged information on a release that's 6 months away or you need some Prozac, my friend. If we don't know why speculate?
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Or maybe he owns a PlayBook like I do and feels like he has seen it before.
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PlayBook was half-baked since day 1. Passport is not.
Me too! Still waiting for BlackBerry 10 running on my playbook!
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Because that's what speculation is lol
All Hail Thorsten. Mother and Father of my Beloved Z10.
Well, if you (RubenDM) know what they're will correcting and repairing in 10.3.3, in terms of the security and privacy updates, you're kind enough to tell us more, please? Or did you mean what you expect in the future? And your comparison with the PlayBook OS is based on? Sources of this all?
Chen: "confirming plans to release platform updates focused on security and privacy enhancements, with version 10.3.3 scheduled to be available in March 2016."
With the release of Windows 10, Microsoft stated that huge feature updates tied to big upgrades every couple of years will be a thing of the past and that platform updates will occur continuously under their new business model. There is no reason why Blackberry wouldn't adopt a similar business model. The platform is essentially stable. Bug fixes, security updates and code optimization can and should be released frequently and need not be tied to the carrier approval processes. And feature updates needn't be so altering to the OS that it should cause the carrier to become concerned about the affect it will have on their network. This is the way of the future.
Then do it every quarter. It's quite obvious that release cadence is slowing down.
10.3.3 mean Blandroid
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I want 10.4 with darkhub by the end of this year
Well I don't care what's the number as long as the features keep improving. +1 for the dark hub plus a side of fries.
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Then am going to buy me a silver edition passport!!!
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Got mine today. Such a beautiful piece of HW!
A part from 10.3.3, 10.3.4 has been confirmed right now by Chen as "scheduled" during the earning call
Good news for BlackBerry 10 lovers, like me...:)
Z30STA100-2/10.3.2.2639
Good news indeed! + choice of OS confirmed.
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What I get from that statement is that Blackberry will now offer you an OS choice, but that the choice will limit the hardware available to you. In other words, if you want Android... "our Blackberry Priv is the device for you!" If you want the ultimate in security you can choose from the the Blackberry Passport or the Blackberry Classic.
Would be wonderful if Blackberry would offer users the ability to flash one or the other on a whim (thru BB Link) but the truth is Blackberry is probably quite limited (by Google itself) to the changes it can make to Android (in order to secure it properly) and still be allowed to have it provide and run Google's services.
Blackberry OS 10 is far better than Android. The UI needs some refresh and Android apps must be more integrated (like Cyanogenmod did with privacy control) especially in the hub (crazy but lack of apps is killing BB10).
I love my Classic! (can be signature btw :-)
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You should have listen to the Chen on the earnings call - he only mentioned BB10 when directly prompted but he waxed lyrically about how wonderful android was.
It is their new Flagship phone now, and also a first in a new market... only smart for him to focus exclusively on it...
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+1.
I love my Classic !
No reason for not promoting BB10. Users will choose whichever they prefer.
Maybe we see the Dark Hub as an option in 10.3.3?
That sounds too good to be true lol
Frosty White Q10/10.3.2.2639 CB10
It's also rumored to have Lithuanian.
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What about the hypervisor? :-)
• Where you gonna leak...? On the Priv, of course! :-) •
Lol
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A dark hub would be awesome!
Posted w/an awesome Z10.
As long as BlackBerry continue to support bb10 I'm happy :)
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So we have to live with this stupid call lag issue for another half a year, I'm sick of it already
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Agreed. And even the hu knows if the'll fix it
Q10 on 10.3.2.2474
You guys keep going on about call lag but I have an empire of Passports and Classics running 10.3.2 and no issues at all.
Fresh install, no restore, bare apps, joined to BES10 and no call lag on any.
What gives?
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Seems you're a very lucky person
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I have call lag on my z30 but it's not something that bothers me that much. Would be nice if it were fixed.
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Browser crashes very often since update to 10.3.2.... :-(
• Where you gonna leak...? On the Priv, of course! :-) •
Haven't used any browser other than Browsie Browser for months.
Ad-block and no crashes.
Frosty White Q10/10.3.2.2639 CB10
If on sprint or verizon, tell them to release 10.3.2 dammit. OR if you have a GSM unit, use sasha's tools to update it. There's already tutorials online, make use of them instead of complaining. I have. I don't have a call delay/lag at all.
Typed using my BlackBerry Classic running 10.3.2 on WINDmobile HSPA+
I'm on verizon and they been sent out OTA for 10.3.2
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Why not 10.4? Is it because it will only be minor upgrades? Are they just maintaining BlackBerry 10 at the bare minimum before they kill it off?
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Yes. BlackBerry 10 is in maintenance mode and no new BB10 devices are coming. Chen said this fiscal year, but that most likely means for good.
You apparently missed this part:
"The company remains committed to the BlackBerry 10 operating system, which enables industry-leading security and productivity benefits. Second, the company will continue to develop and enhance the BlackBerry 10 operating system and is confirming plans to release platform updates focused on security and privacy enhancements, with version 10.3.3 scheduled to be available in March 2016."
They had bullshit comments like that when they killed the PlayBook... just gives time to figure out how to sunset the offering.
Maybe OS 10 will die before OS7. Always with the interesting strategy this company.
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As Bla1ze said... none.
They probable have 10.3.3 ready to go now.... but it will look better if they delay it.
My birth month
Posted Via: Z10 10.3.2.556 On The Best Network "Verizon Wireless"
Good news for BlackBerry 10 lovers!
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Yay they're not killing it! I'm keeping my Passport!
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Until 2016? :-)
The statement sounds to me like they will be updating bb10, but he specifically doesn't mention anything about any new bb10 devices.
I have no confidence in this statement. If they came out with the Priv (horrible name) long time ago, they would be in a way better position!
A lot of people just wanted a big screen with a keyboard.
From Me on my Z 30
Yeah, all the naysayers!
BB10 NOT dead! :-D
• Where you gonna leak...? On the Priv, of course! :-) •
And the first set of features to be known are...
Frosty White Q10/10.3.2.2639 CB10
Removal of the runtime?
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I can see this happening.
Posted on CB10 using my Z30 STA 100-5 on OS 10.3.2.2639
How do they entice users to do this update with said item potentially being removed. Unless they lock out the device I doubt many people will do it.
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Flash was also removed...
Yes! Provide the option to kill anything Droid please! The zombies can have their fix with the Slid... er, the Priv.
Couldn't say it better
Q❿, adopted a Z❿.. proud parent
+1000!
Snoopy in Germany w/ P´9982 + Passport + Z10
So does choice of OS confirmed mean you can pick between Android or BB10 for the slider?
Because I want BlackBerry 10 not Android.
Posted with grandfathered unlimited VOLTE data with my bad ass BlackBerry Classic on Verizon.
No, just means that they are saying that you now have the choice of an Android device, next to the existent offerings of BB10 devices
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Yeah.. that's what I was afraid it meant.
Still can't get the Passport SE on Verizon or Sprint and they wonder why they haven't sold that many.
And now the slider is running Android...I don't want Android I'm fine with BlackBerry 10.
We'll see I'd still just rather have a Passport SE it's beautiful.
Posted with grandfathered unlimited VOLTE data with my bad ass BlackBerry Classic on Verizon.
I can remember a small video from @evleaks showing two Privs side by side... maybe we will see it with both OS?
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Don't worry, it will be rooted by someone.
Then. There is still hope. Of course wouldn't rooting the Pirv basically prove it is not as secure as it it made out to be?
ZeeTen goodness in every tap, peek and swipe.
No, it said the new device will offer a choice of OS.
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As it is not specific as to the os choice. I read into it as. Choose the new Slider on Android. Or another BlackBerry running BB10. Choices are still there. Just not on the slider. I will not use the current name it's seeming to have evolved to as it is a dumb name. Venice is way better.
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Agreed.
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I read it as the device itself (the unit you hold in your hand) providing the options, not the existence of the device (the product within a lineup of BlackBerry phones). The mere existence of another android device will not "provide" options - those options are already provided by other manufacturers. In other words, if this runs android only no options have been "provided"; options have been "expanded".
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Yeah. I was hoping to get the Venice (now Pirv) with bb10. But, now looking at Passport or maybe next one... if one will ever be made. (I think the Pirv is DOA. An Android -only slidet device with that gawd-aweful name will sink BlackBerry as a handset builder. Guaranteed.
ZeeTen goodness in every tap, peek and swipe.
Not sure, however, an "option" would be nice. I would probably favor BB10 as well.
I, too!
Please no Android runtime. Make it removeable, please!!!
For real BlackBerry Fans it is waste to be removed!
Snoopy in Germany w/ P´9982 + Passport + Z10
That would NOT be a smart move. If anything, they should update the Runtime so that existing and any new purchases of older BB10 handsets still have some appeal.
Look! It's Zedzilla30!
No reason to eliminate the runtime. It's been part of the BB10 experience from day 1.
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Big reason to remove it if Google won't allow it.
So, you are suggesting that BlackBerry, in order to make a fully Android phone, had to sell out that portion of the BB10 OS? and that the Android runtime will be stripped out of BB10 at some point in the near future? I have no knowledge on this either way, but that sounds like excessively punitive way for Google to say "thank you for finally securing our OS".
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I love my Passport running the Runtime as I run Cobalt's Google Playstore and now I have a phone I can really use. I have tried to keep the faith but the reality is the Google Playstore has apps that I can use for work. And I personally would like to see the Runtime updated to something like Lollipop at the very least. Sad but true, I love my OS 10 don't get me wrong - but heck - even RBC, and other bank apps are better on Runtime than on OS10!! Ugghhh - it absolutely kills me to see this. I absolutely LOVE my Passport - but..... the Priv has some attractions. Never thought I would say that....
+1
Why would they remove the runtime? I see some saying that in the forums. It's it a legal issue or are people just making off the wall assumptions?
The only way to keep BB10 relevant, as in "100%secured" COBO like. But that's just me and I have to stomach the sentence "working with Google" in Chen's mouth. I take my pills; I'm stoned.
Lol....lipop.
Actually, I see the runtime getting updated to comply with M.
They can remove it, but they'll need to allow us to boot Android on every BB10 device