And we're back! After taking a bit of a break for the Easter weekend, Upstream and is back and this week there was lots to talk about. For this episode, we decided to take it to BBM Meetings and give that go instead of using Google Hangouts but Google must have somehow sensed we were using different service because, YouTube decided it wanted to encode the video perpetually. However, we got it all sorted out and although it's here later than anticipated, you can now watch or listen to Upstream as you see fit. Jump down a bit to see the topics, guest list and downloads!
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BerryFlow Upstream Podcast - EMM
Am only about 20 minutes in, but holy macaroni, if this is BBM meetings in action then kill it with fire! Half of the contributions are inaudible. I hope it improves (otherwise I wonder why on earth those commenting above are comparing it so favourably to Hangouts).
Btw - everyone complaining about the lack of CrackBerry podcasts - get over it. CB podcasts were awesome back in 2008-10, but they became so sporadic. The Berry Upstream team are knowledgble and enthusiastic, and these podcasts are great. Stop pinning for the podcast golden days and realise they these are the best BlackBerry pods (with rare exceptions) we've had for five years!
Downloading and will listen later.
Posted via CB10 using my QNX powered BlackBerry Q10.
I liked the comments on BES, BBM but the Leap review not so much.
Posted via CB10
Not bad. Audio kind of wonky. Listening to this made me install Flow and listen to more podcasts. Thank you and have a great day.
Posted via Classic.
Like the BBM meeting podcast. Use BBM meetings myself. It's a very powerful and awesome tool.
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Was Bla1ze going for a puff every time Skeletor popped up on his screen?.....seems like he was getting squinty eyed
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Smoke break? One way to find out, Bla1ze do you smoke? If you do try to Quit that stuff is slowly killing you and costing you lots of money at the same time. And that's a bad Combo...
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I think a blind man could answer this one!
Posted via CB4
:o) true if he was nearby and can smell.
I only watched the first one or so then tuned out...
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First minute or so...
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Seeing this podcast makes me now morw likely to pay for meetings. Im impressed.
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I hate the comment near the end that "I have nothing to hide, so I don't care if they read my BBMs." The problem with surveillance isn't with lawful warrants for specific information, the problem is with broad access that can be used against you. For example, if one day you decide you want to protest (a legal activity) against a government policy and they're able to find out you've been having an affair or they're able to capture intimate photos your wife sent you etc. and use that information to shut you up. That's the problem. The "I have nothing to hide so go ahead" attitude is part of the problem.
To allow a system to exist which could easily be abused based on promises that it's not currently being abused is unacceptable, because it WILL be abused in due time and there will be innocent victims of that abuse. I don't know when the ideal of freedom became subservient to the idea of security, but I hate it.
I agree. I don't have anything myself to hide, but if we stand around and say we don't care about our privacy, we might one day need it and regret our previous passive stance on privacy and security. I'm sure privacy is becoming more important to people in countries like Ukraine, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Any other country where who you are and what you believe could be the difference between life and death.
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+1
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Absolutely! Privacy is important. Unfortunately not everything coming out of government is good. Welcome to the real world.
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Hey i appreciate and respect the Feedback ! And your completely right, broad access would be a huge violation of privacy and would open to abuse! But per the conversation, BBM chats that need to be accessed must be done through the appropriate legal channels and only done so with legal merit. So no one has a type of broad access to read personal conversations just like that. So as i was trying to say in a jokingly way is as long as your not breaking the law no one should be accessing or having any need to read your convo's in the first place. Thats something the Government has to hold up, if they are doing that is a completely different conversation (Example the NSA )
I know you didn't literally mean what you said.....I just took the opportunity to voice my opinion on the subject. Keep up the good podcasts.
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Bbm meetings seems to be better, Google hangout is always lagging.
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Awesome! Love hearing all the good discussions.
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I really enjoy listening to these podcasts. Keep up the good work!
Posted via CB10
Really cool. Hope to see you guys on bbm meetings every week :)
Posted via CB10 on my ZED10
Meetings is the way to go, hope most people are on board with keeping these in house who does community and communication better? All in to go all out!
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I agree with you BBM meeting is the way to go I did not know it was that good And it seem very light on your connection Keep it all BlackBerry
BBZ30!! Running 10.3.1.2267
Aren't BBM messages supposed to be secure and private?
Posted via BlackBerry Passport
Good podcast, I think the mc - James does a great job at keeping things moving along and interesting.
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As much as I hate google I have to say google hangouts is much better for podcasts.
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Google hangout is always lagging How is it better BBM meeting is a lot smoother than Google hangout from what I seen And that made the show a lot more enjoyable
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People love comparing Google Hangouts to BBM Meetings, but at the end of the day, they each have their own purpose. Hangouts are directly tied into YouTube's live streaming service and meant for live streaming podcasts.
BBM Meetings is meant for companies to meet on the go or at the computer to discuss things internally. It's not meant to be a live streaming service. It's bazaar to me that so many people here are dying for BBM Meetings when that completely kills the live streaming perspective which is what has made podcasting big again as of lately.
Now you could use both BBM Meetings with Google Hangouts by jumping through hoops, though it's kind of a pain. You need to use something like OBS to record the computer's BBM Meetings screen/audio and output that to Google Hangouts, but again, it's a pain.. BBM Meetings was not developed for live streaming or podcasting. It is not trying to be Google Hangouts. It was developed for meetings (as the name implies).
Just my $0.02
It's really nice hangout is ok but I like both, I would use BBM MEETING thought.
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Very nice. Looks good!
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I'm there!
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Crackberry used to be so much fun. Now the subscribers are dwindling. Sad but time to move on I guess. Where is the guy that founded Crackberry? Is he not interested in Crackberry anymore?
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I'm glad to have a podcast with Bla1ze and all. And it's awesome, but I do miss the "legacy" CrackBerry Podcasts.
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Yeah where is the founder of Crackberry ¿ Kind of liked him but since he got a gold iPhone he somehow went missing :( if I remember correctly
Z10 LE 10.2.2.1609
He went where the money is...and left his baby on someone's doorstep.
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Exactly,
Then again it looks to me like Blackberry doesn't care much about their hardware or BB10 native apps. IMO they are putting out BB10 devices just to buy as much time as they can for their other revenue streams to start bringing in more cash. If BB don't care why should Kevin? :)
I don't think BlackBerry doesn't care about their hardware side of things, (passport is a top of the line phone from what I understand as I don't have one) they are watching their money very closely right now and focused more on business users and the phone's they buy for their employees.
They know that Apple and or Samsung put out a new phone (or watch) and people just go out and buy it without giving it a second thought and they sell millions of them. And with BlackBerry this doesn't happen, people go with the crowd and not against it for the most part. And until this changes BlackBerry has to be careful with their money.
As far as native apps go, the people (big players, Google and others) don't care about BlackBerry and so it is what it is.
Kevin left his baby and it is not as healthy as it once was it's not getting the attention and proper nutrition it needs and is slowing starving to death, and if he is fine with that then so be it. BlackBerry didn't, they are working hard at every which way (like you said other revenues etc) to make money to feed their baby in these hard times...to make a comeback when the tides turn again... :o)
Take care.
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Who's paying for BBM Meetings? Are you guys going splitsies?
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They get it for free.
Awesome to see that there's finally the first Podcast using BBM Meetings.
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Not the first actually.
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Awesome to hear that others have tried it. Had no idea.
[Hopefully NOT edited by admin to be fair lol. ;)] Frosty White Q10/10.3.1.2726 CB10
Crackberry better step up its game.
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I miss the CrackBerry podcasts, Kevin has a nice oratory skills, Chris Umi too. I'm glad we dont have to listen to Adam any longer though.
I agree with you Dave... lol
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The old CB podcasts are no more, there's no one left for Bla1ze to have them with.
Adam's monotone voice used to make me hit mute.
Glad you're trying out BBM Meetings BerryFlow, stick with it after the trial it's not that expensive for one host.
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