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Is Your Mute Key No Longer Working For Stand By Mode?
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Bla1ze |
11 Mar 2010 06:10
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148 comments
It seems a lot of users have noticed this with the most recent OS' released. Kind of weird for it to be removed really, as many users actually enjoyed having the function there. Now that it's gone, many folks have been As The RIM knowledge base states: In earlier BlackBerry Device Software versions the mute key was used to turn standby mode on. Due to changes in the lock key functionality on the BlackBerry smartphone starting in BlackBerry Device software 5.0, the mute key no longer places the BlackBerry smartphone into Standby mode. The mute key will still function to mute calls in the phone application. Sorry to break the news to those who used the function. It doesn't seem as though the function will be coming back anytime soon. While I never really used the option myself, I'm sure some folks out there wouldn't mind if a 3rd party developer looked into overriding the setting. At the same time, I'm sure some may see it as an improvement to the OS.
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Ooohhhh... Miss CrackBerry is not going to be happy about this when I tell her. She's totally a mute key standby person.
IMPORTANT: This post is MISLEADING. As a standby user only on my BlackBerry, updating to 5.0.0.509 on my Bold 9000 has IMPROVED the standby functionality in several ways!! This is a GOOD THING.
THANK YOU RIM!
Am I supposed to fish through menus to put my phone in standby now?
Definitely not impressed. Sticking with .351 for the time being.
Well, with the lock key locking the device keyboard and not the entire device, it should function as a standby mode.
Then again I have a Storm, mutejey/standby never worked and carry it in a sleep holster. Thing is I have a password on my device if I push the LOCK key I want it to lock not just blank the screen that I push any other hard key it lights up anyway. Now if I want to lock my device before the timeout I have to fish through menus, kinda hard if you want to lock your device quick manually.
I use the mute key standby option constantly. I work in a dusty environment and there are no full coverage cases to adequately protect my 9700 that also have standby magnets. I'm currently using a hard shell nylon camera case. Currently on official .405 for ATT and I still have mute key standby. Maybe no upgrades for me now. Unless key lock will also activate standby mode.
Never used the previous setting but the new one is better, if you use a lot your device you can save more bettery like this...
What is the "new" setting? Does the right button only mute the device now? How does one put the BlackBerry in standby without involving a magnet?
As long as I have a way to lock it I am fine. Left top or right top, it doesn't matter to me. I carry My Tour in all sorts of pockets and have "pocket dialed" way too often. I like locking/unlocking it with 1 touch.
Don't you hate when you accidentaly press the mute key when putting your device in your pocket?? :)
locking only locks it. standby not only locks it but gives you a kajillion more battery life
WOW! I never realized that Standby saves battery life. My 8330 only had the mute/standy. When I got the tour, I Didn't understand why it had a lock AND a mute/standby key. I figured Stanby was the same as the lock. I've been using the Lock feature because you can also unlock from the screen. I'll be using the stanby feature more now.
By the way, I'm a verizon Tour running O.S. 5.0 v .419. I do believe the Sprint official eliminates standby from the mute. I'll stick with .419. I find it works great. Not sure what all the bugs people talk about are.
I use the standby mode all the time with the mute key on my 8330. Why? because my son got a hold of my brother's BB and hit the 911 key when he had his device locked.....
Yeah my at the time 4 yr old was wrong, but what's next? No sleeper magnet?
So it isn't effecting me yet but once I upgrade or VZW rolls out an officail it definitely will. While at work I use a holster so no problem there but when I toss it in my pocket after work or on the weekends I always use the mute button to put it into stand by.
I would have to think that there is a good reason for removing this feature, otherwise why waste the time. Guessing it either effected something in the newer 5.0 builds or maybe they had to remove it for something that is coming soon.
I have 5.0 on my Tour and my mute/standby works great.
I put 5.0 on my Tour and I can only lock/standby by using the left side lock key, the mute key no longer puts it in standby mode.
you need a hybrid os, which resolves this issue.
how do you get a hold of that hybrid OS? currently running .461 should i bother with the .509?
My mute key still functions for standby mode. I'm running .419 on a Tour
I love the mute key standby feature. I'm so hooked on it with my phone when I reach for somebody else's phone I'll quickly tap the mute key if the display is off. It's such a habit. Maybe I won't upgrade for a while.
This is precisely why I left bb and went to the iPhone. RIM keeps effing things up way too much. I have seen the light, bb used to be the greatest thing since sliced bread but now they just straight up blow goat balls
All I can say is, WELL THAT SUCKS!! I use that standby all the time. I love that great feature, keeps me from making pocket calls.
Pressing mute for more than a second puts my Bold in standby, using OS 5 from TMO (.330).
My BlackBerry Bold 9000 running BlackBerry OS 5.0.0.509 (official Telstra Australia upgrade) still has standby... Sort of.
If I hold the mute key down, I don't get the "entering standby mode, press any key to cancel message" that I used to see, but the screen still turns off!
Hi,
I own a Curve 8520, and I recently upgraded to 5.0 (the official one from Wind Hellas). So far (i.e. 4.6) what i had was:
- long press on * would lock the keyboard; screen would stay on displaying the owner info; unlocking was made by pressing *, followed by Send key;
- long press on Mute (top of phone) would present, for a second or so, the message "Entering standy mode", after which the screen would turn off; getting out of standy mode was made by pressing the Mute Key [which, by the way, in the Curve 8520, also functions as Play/Pause and as a shortcut to Media]
The behaviour I now have is: either a long press on * or a long press on Mute will immediately lock the keyboard and turn off the screen; either way you do this, unlocking is done by pressing Mute (if you press some of the keys, the screen will light up and tell you "keyboard is locked, please press Mute to unlock"). The owner info is not displayed as it used to be when keyboard was locked in 4.6; the only time it appears is when keyboard is locked after turning the phone on, but, unlike in 4.6 (where you had to manually unkock the keyboard with * and Send), it automatically unlocks after one second or less.
I still haven't figured out if the current key lock feature is something between the old "key lock" and "standby" modes.
My Bold 9700 with 5.0.0.330 still goes to standby by pressing mute.
For those that don't use holsters or sleeper cases, place your BlackBerry on a hyberpad to get the same benefit.
A lot of people seem to be missing that you can put it into standby, by pressing the LOCK key now. I have the Bold 2 (9700) and this came into effect after OS 5.0.442 - so that one is still "safe" but any releases after that will have the new functionality.
I like the new standby mode *better* because it INSTANTLY goes into standby, instead of waiting 10 seconds while giving you that warning message.
What I miss is the original Lock Key functionality, because I no longer have a one-press method of just locking (and thuse securing) the phone instantly.
Ditto. I hate it that I have to use a 3rd party app to lock my phone because it doesn't offer it as an option anymore.
There should be an option to lock the keypad and the phone at the same time by just pressing one button/key.
I did discover that with the 9700 at least, you can press alt+enter to lock it. This is sometimes confused though, as it sometimes brings up the language input selector (which you can turn off in options, and I still need to do).
I had no idea! Thanks for mentioning this! I changed my language selector to Shift+Space and now alt+enter locks WITH PASSWORD. you rock!
Actually I just learned this when I got my new Storm2 and thought it was just related to that.
By holding the power button, it locks, but my understanding is that w/o standby mode or in a holster, the locking mode isn't the same as standby when it comes to battery consumption. Would love if CrackBerry could confirm!?
I definitely notice a difference from my 8830 World Edition. Granted I have a few more apps running, bigger screen and the touchscreen no doubt uses up more battery power, but I used to go a couple days at least without putting my 8830 on the charger. Even without using it as a phone, I end up putting my Storm2 on the charger every night.
*edit* sidebar: Maybe just the Storm2, but also hate that I can't set a delay for asking for a password. Used to have it set for 4 hours, which was a balance between risk and convenience. Now, with having to enter it every time, I don't use a password...probably like most people. Great feature upgrade...not.
Meh.
Press and hold the "a" key. On my bold with the latest 5.0 Os this puts the phone into standby now. Its much easier and actually faster as the screen dims instantly.
I wish I could take it out of standby with a key insted of the mute key as well. That key is hard to press sometimes.
Nope, that's not standby and you can tell because when you try to wake it using say the "back" key should say that it's in standby and how to properly get it out.
Pressing and holding the "a" key only locks the keyboard - I can't seem find a single key press that now puts it into standby, which like a lot of people is something I use a lot and one reason I replaced my 9000 with 9700 as the mute key had stopped working.
I really think RIM need to reconsider this odd change.
It is standby. However I have only noticed it on my latest OS5 (509 for the bold). I don't know if it was there before that version. When I press and hold the A key it puts it in stand by. They modified it though so that if you press a number key or end/back key it brings up that standby msg. You still have to press the mute key to bring it out of standby. Its the 5.0 standby.
I wasn't even aware of the function until the uproar about it being gone started. It's amazing how vehement some people are about it. Me? I couldn't care less.
I've got 5.0 on my VZ Tour and the mute button still puts it standby mode.
why remove this feature? RIM needs to stop changing things that work and start fixing things that don't work...
agreed
I use the mute key all of the time on my 8330. I have 5.0 running on it. It works great but if it goes away how else would one put it in standby mode?
The reported inabililty to password lock using the A key is a deal breaker for me. I have too much critical data (passwords, account numbers, etc.) on my device to leave it without password protection. I don't want to mess with having to click on some icon that takes up space on my screen. I need a quick, easy (A key) method to protect the device.
Terrible decision by RIM to remove this functionality. At a minimum they should give users the option of retaining this functionality.
That was my frustration in the forums about the new change. Yes, I understand the BB is becoming more of a "its cool to have one" device for people that could careless about security but, the for few that are left it's really important to me. I have 8 email accts, passwords, banking info, merchant and customer info, site access info, etc. a lot of information that requires security. And I just about every security option turned on including media encryption. If I lost my BB right now all my data would be safe, yes I'd need a new phone but I wouldnt have to worry about any info getting out.
Icon locking and timeout password locking is just not acceptable for a business phone. trading off password locking for standby is silly. Everyone is talking about saving battery and stuff. But, lets be realistic the BB has a insane battery life, I can go up to 2days if not more without recharge with regular usuage. You can definitely get through a 24hr period without recharging a BB. Why not make everyone happy and give the user the option on how they want the button to work.
Someone mentioned in above comments that there is a way to lock with password. Go to Options -> Language and Text Input. Change "Input Language Selection Shortcut" to Shift-Space or None. When The Language Selector is not set to Alt+Enter, that becomes a Password Lock shortcut. I have a 9630 running .484 and it works like a charm for me!
I use this feature all the time and its irreplaceable...i cant imagine using it on another key!!
Miracle habits!! ;))))
So I'm still running 4.7.161 on my Tour, mostly because I was hoping Big Red would come out with a really awesome official 5.0 version someday before I get rid of the device all together. Not sure that will even happen....Anyhow, on the new 5.0 OS does the top left key still lock the phone from performing any operation other than an emergency 911 call? I didn't use the standby mode key much but if the lock key feature has changed or been taken away too then I'm totally screwed. My phone lives in my pocket and we all know what happens to unlocked phones down in the depths of our pants pockets.
Standby mode has been a staple... it removes power from the keyboard and screen... AND SAVES BATTERY LIFE!!!!
WHY take that away... does the Lock button now do this for us.... NO!!!!
Curve 8900 here with 5.0.0.411 from December I think. Mute still works for standby.
Having lock and standby as separate things has always seemed kind of strange to me. Maybe this change is to combine them(?). It seems doubtful they'd take away the battery-saving stand-by mode.
When I lock my Storm 2, the battery life improves immensely. It may not say it's standby mode like it used to, but I see all of the benefits of standby mode anyway. My two cents.
i think the only reason this move is justified is with newer devices such as the storm 2 having a separate mute key from the lock key....i guess the older devices getting the 5.0 upgrade just pretty much get the shaft from RIM