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WhatsApp assures users privacy remains a priority even after Facebook purchase

By Bla1ze on 17 Mar 2014 02:45 pm EDT
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Ever since WhatsApp announced they'd had been acquired by Facebook it seems there has been plenty of concerns surrounding privacy within the app. To address those concerns, WhatsApp CEO and co-founder Jan Koum has now taken to the company's blog to 'set the record straight' and address 'a lot of inaccurate and careless information circulating about what our future partnership would mean for WhatsApp users’ data and privacy.'

Respect for your privacy is coded into our DNA, and we built WhatsApp around the goal of knowing as little about you as possible: You don’t have to give us your name and we don’t ask for your email address. We don’t know your birthday. We don’t know your home address. We don’t know where you work. We don’t know your likes, what you search for on the internet or collect your GPS location. None of that data has ever been collected and stored by WhatsApp, and we really have no plans to change that.

If partnering with Facebook meant that we had to change our values, we wouldn’t have done it. Instead, we are forming a partnership that would allow us to continue operating independently and autonomously. Our fundamental values and beliefs will not change. Our principles will not change. Everything that has made WhatsApp the leader in personal messaging will still be in place. Speculation to the contrary isn’t just baseless and unfounded, it’s irresponsible. It has the effect of scaring people into thinking we’re suddenly collecting all kinds of new data. That’s just not true, and it’s important to us that you know that.

Now I'm not personally a WhatsApp user, so I have no real concerns over the app but for those of you out there who do use the app, does this help address your privacy concerns or did you even have any to begin with? It seems any time a company partners with Facebook they have to make statements like this and it's becoming a common practice among messaging apps even if Facebook isn't involved. Do these statements even work or impact your usage of such apps?

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196 comments

raxamillion

Bbm still needs to be on par at least.

Posted via CB10 on my sexy white Z30 rocking 10.2.1.2141

sk8er_tor

On par with what? I didn't realize WhatsApp had voice calls, live location sharing, dropbox integration, social network like channels, etc.
Unless you mean on par with stealing your address book and lack of privacy, then yes you're right, WhatsApp definitely has BBM beat there.

crackbrry fan

And now they(what's app) gets to associate your phone number and contacts with FB. So in case you miss out on giving the world your private information, they got you covered!

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TrueKulcha

WhatsApp, privacy and Facebook all in one sentence lol. Look, the world is coming to an end. Sorry but I won't be using that again regardless...

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yungwun555

Wth are you talking about bbm is supeior. Pls explain what happened mean by on par?

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raxamillion

Userbase, reliability (cross platform), group chat is still a joke, being alerted to a message when you are in the chat itself. All basics that need attention. I love BBM, but with so many failings how will it ever increase its user base to where it needs to be?

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nick13b

Are you on drugs?

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raxamillion

How does anything I have said infer a drug habit?

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raxamillion

And for the record, I would love to be in a position where I could delete whatsapp all together. Unfortunately, with all my efforts to convert people. BBM just doesn't do what it needs to in the same manner as whatsapp. If it did, I'd delete it now. I don't like that one company has so much power over information. Until that day comes, it has to stay, just so I can keep in touch with people.

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crackbrry fan

Goodluck with that.

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MoritaBB

I can feel you.... actually BBM still having a lot of bugs unfixed!!! I'm trying to convert my friends to BBM too than whatsapp... but what makes ppl stay on whatsapp than going to BBM?

Everyone says BBM is superior and so many function... but whatsapp with with less function ppl still refused to go to BBM than whatsapp...

Myself is BlackBerry and BBM fans... I've sending numerous mail to developer about those bugs and features to add... sometimes I think the basic are not stable yet why go way so far to channel and ads....

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Gykesdollars

One of such instability is shown in the inability to use high resolution display pictures in BBM. From launch on Bb10 (even the iOS and Android apps), it has been a bug that has received significant complaint but BlackBerry and the BBM team are yet to address it. Unlike BBM, WhatsApp had a similar bug in one of its updates where profile pictures don't change when using a high res image. But it was addressed immediately with a second update.

I know this has nothing to do with security but it goes a long way in showing WhatsApp's dedication towards the satisfaction of its users! And that should be a priority JMO.

Z10STL100-1/10.2.1.2228 "The iPhone Nemesis"

atribecalledx

Amen. I love BBM and successfully got my Alumni group and Fantasy Football group to migrate over from Whatsapp once BBM went cross-platform, but BBM groups are lacking simple basic things and it ended proving very annoying. BlackBerry has to fix these things, then move to put in clear, only BBM features like larger file transfer limits, BBM money, etc. Only then can they recapture public imagination. They also have to do it fast before IOS and Android users delete it once and for all!

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MoritaBB

Atribe... seems like other than u and me facing the same problem... I believe many out there faced the same too... YES we all hope BBM could really fixed all that inorder to at least have the same level as whatsapp or Line... then only forward to new features...

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waldhay

I agree, most of my friends use whatsapp. After I removed it and tried to convince them to give bbm a try they didn't want to, so I reinstall whatsapp again.

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GeneralHerzog

I love statements like this.
People, we know what you think based on crazy things in the past but we're changing, really we are.

From my Vader Zed

PeterDR1

What should have happened is for there to be an article that says "Facebook assures users privacy after whatsapp purchase" which we all know is a fairy tale but how can whatsapp guarantee anything if they were bought out by facebook?

Management has changed and we're not stupid.

 We have apks cuz we need 'em not cuz we want 'em 

moyah8

+ 1

Whatsapp will not collect data and will ensure your privacy. I agree and accept that statement.

BUT, the new owners (who specialise in "sharing" our data) has not come out and said otherwise... so, I can only imagine it will be business as usual for them, with their new information gathering tool.

Bringing sexy back on my Q10SQN100-3/10.2.1.2141

chi-town311

They only said that they won't collect additional data. They will still collect the data they used to collect. Key word is NEW.

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crucial bbq

Whatsapp themselves may not collect your data or encroach on your privacy, but where does it state that Facebook will not? As long as Whatsapp themselves do not do it it is a factual statement. Misleading, though, sure.

It's like if I live in an apartment and tell my guest I do not have a policy against allowing guests to stay in my dwelling for an extended period of time but the property manager kicks them all out after two days because the property owners do have such a policy. Perhaps not the best analogy but I think it delivers the point.

TrueKulcha

+1 X. >

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Asuhmiaseh

Notice the words used? "No plans to"... very telling imho. Quite different than " we will never" or "we guarantee".
Sounds like your typical politician type speak. And you all know how you tell a politician is lying don't you?

Don Diego endorses the Zed.

ryanza

Facebook would not have spent as much as they did to buy something they were not going to make a profit on.

What does WhatsApp have that could possibly turn a profit on its initial purchase price other than its users details?

Rather than telling us how they're not going to make money out of WhatsApp why not tell us what the plan is or at least give a hint?

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skeuri

Exactly!

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THBW

Yes, I find the wording rather interesting. Why spend 40 dollars per username if you weren't going to profit in some manner. This pronouncement also comes after the EU told Facebook to cease and desist in terms of data mining the Whatsup data base.

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xhead75

Perfect!

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crucial bbq

Despite popular belief and media reportage, Facebook is not everywhere. There are still countries where other social media sites are more popular and where Facebook is outright banned. Facebook can penetrate into these markets by using something such as Whatsapp.

Facebook, like Google, really makes money by collecting and selling user data mostly to deliver targeted advertising.

Koepman

OF COURSE! ;)

Since 2010 

Douken

I'll believe it when a trusty third party says it .

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SlcCorrado

Hahahahaha, riiiiggghhht

BBPandy

Best part of that statement is:

"Respect for your privacy is coded into our DNA, and we built WhatsApp around the goal of knowing as little about you as possible"

Yes because WhatsApp has always been known for respecting your privacy....Oh wait, no they haven't, it's the opposite.

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umbrau44

They don't know that data but they have your phone number.

The NSA can put the rest together.

Ogbu Onuoha1

Well said Sir

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hammerberry11

What did we expect them to say?

Puz_zled

Nothing.

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xhead75

Ya that would be better than telling us we're assholes for not being stupid.

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KISS ARMY

Now to be proper and professional with comments......

Correct me if I'm wrong everybody, but wasn't there a huge gap in security regarding Whatsapp?? I seem to recall a story about a game in the Google Play Store called Bubble Pop 2 which was connected to another app called Whatsapp Copy. The essence of the story that I read online is that Bubble Pop 2 was a spyware type app that retrieved your Whatsapp messages and posted them on an app called Whatsapp Copy for people to read and enjoy as entertainment. Is this true, or did I read a BS story? I've deleted my Whatsapp account as a result. Either way I find BBM much more useful than Whatsapp.

Cheers!!

crackbrry fan

No BS it's very real, FB acquisition just means that your privacy finally settles down in the cesspool. Hey but say what? "We have nothing to hide! Right?? The reason for this public notice is that people have been dumping what's app faster than yesterday's newspaper. In and if it self should speak volumes to everyone!

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MarkyZ10

I thought it was a direct purchase. Not a partnership.

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Bla1ze

They refer to it as a partnership because (in their words, paraphrased) are being left alone to operate. Makes it sound less scary.

MarkyZ10

Gotta read between the lines with everything these days.

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Puz_zled

Doesn't $19Billion look a bit, well, excessive if the new purchase takes a hit on subscribers right after? That would be kind of interesting to see happen.....

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crackbrry fan

It is an outright purchase! They figure if they can put out notices like this we will fall for it. You can out lipstick on a pig it still a pig. You can't shine crap,once you start it smears and sti**ks to high heaven.

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Jonathank

Facebook owns them.. which means Facebook wrote that. I'm good. I have jumped ship... no thanks whatsapp

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nuff_said

If FB wrote that they need better PR writers. It was terrible.

Captain_Hilts

This just makes me not trust them even more.

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Superfly_FR

"You don’t have to give us your name [yada-yada-yada], and we really have no plans to change that."

=> Right, just your cell # we advertise bulk with your nick, the one you probably use everywhere on the web. Sounds like a "nothing changed" (to avoid the current class action) yet, nowhere something one can call "privacy priority". Is that just me ?

Wolf35Nine

19 billion dollars and I'd tell you the same thing.

JustCrakked

My thoughts exactly. You could stick your hand up my ass to make the facial expressions on my face for that kind of dough.

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Prem WatsApp

Hand puppet? Backside puppet? LOL

"No Q10?" -> "Buy from Chen... "

Asuhmiaseh

I see what you did there!

Don Diego endorses the Zed.

sk8er_tor

I'll do it for $18 billion.

Puz_zled

I should have read further before posting above, the exact same thing.

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darkhawk

Right, because facebook can be trusted.
i wont go back!

DetlevCM

Coming from a company that quite possibly holds my data illegally given that some of my colleagues use their code...

Privacy also entails not collecting data when consent isn't given.

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rickster2611

'Pull the other one mate, it's got bells on. '

How can you assure people of security when WhatsApp mines your phone directory.

Your phone directory is your own personal space with your contacts.

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bintheredundat

My thoughts exactly.

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BB944

My thought is this:

Facebook has always declared its subscribers as the "product" they sell to advertisers (like google)... the whatsapp acquisition is probably toward that end game... so he likely correct 'now' but it won't be long before your chats are associated with your profile and just after chatting with your buddy about you new car you see ads for insurance on your facebook page

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bigbadben10

I feel much better now...phew...I can sleep at night.. :p

nevertoofar

I would like not to use the Whatsapp app but is impossible in a world where almost everybody is using it. Secure? I do not think so.

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Asuhmiaseh

All it takes is for people to take a stand. Others will follow or not. Why buy in?

Don Diego endorses the Zed.

anon5781939

No matter what statements they gona make..I'm not gona use that mess...messanger. lol

Mr.KLScott

Welcome to 1984

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VR6

Raiiiiight...they also won't collect any usage and keyword data either. So what are they collecting?

marvini

Let's get real for a moment. Did you really expect this guy to come out and say that What's App is not secure???

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MarkyZ10

Tony Soprano-"believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see" words to live by.

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ten3br0us

Well good for them, still won't change my mind about them. They can talk all they want, I'll judge by how their "partnership" with FB is actually going to change things.

katiepea

What privacy? Plain text is privacy?

Prem WatsApp

Good one! Even if all the statements were totally true, if it's plaintext, everyone on the network can read it.

So WhatsApp can tell you the truth. And they can operate independently. All Facebook has to do is install a packet sniffer and data filter in the same network, done.

"No Q10?" -> "Buy from Chen... "

root56

I think nowadays they are encrypted. But that's probably why fb bought the keys.

ChrisHewer1

The combo of Facebook and WhatsApp data is a dream come true for the nsa.

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moyah8

+1

Through Facebook, they know who you are... and now with Whatsapp, they know what you are talking about.. nice!

:-P

BBM all the way for me.

Bringing sexy back on my Q10SQN100-3/10.2.1.2141

Prem WatsApp

Maybe they " suggested" the takeover.

"No Q10?" -> "Buy from Chen... "

Gykesdollars

Most likely

Z10STL100-1/10.2.1.2228 "The iPhone Nemesis"

Zirak

If partnering.. meant we had to change our values, we would not have done it.
Seriously, I would really like to see anybody with enough morality to turn down $19 billion.

Sent while driving from my Crackberry.

Prem WatsApp

What values were there before?

"No Q10?" -> "Buy from Chen... "

BlackB_G

Privacy is a freaking myth. Dunno what the he'll you tinfoil wearing crew are always moaning about. Your cellphone company has your number, your school, your bank, your work place, tons of others who they partner with, your email addresses, your home addresses, etc etc.. if you have such a problem with Facebook or whatsapp having your details then stop using the service. End of. If there's one thing you have that they can't get its your freedom of choice.

Enough already.

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crackbrry fan

Yeah ,ah ha, right.....the kooks right??

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root56

My school had my information became e they needed it and they didn't sell that information. And yes I don't use their services but we can still bitch about it.

Blackmailme

I don't believe a bar of it is carefully worded to say what wats app won't do but not what Facebook will or will not do plus the words never are not used clever... But I am not Buying it...

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craigdh1

Lol... now that funny :)

SparkyBC

No they only have your phone number which can show your location lol

Not that it matters this is just what the NSA wants. What better way to track millions of users using whatsapp while syphoning data from Facebook on them. Gives them instant access without the need of being sneaky.

When a company comes out like this they're hiding something...

Prem WatsApp

LOOOLLLL

Just choked with laughter. The NSA siphoning off the data. I think I have to correct my post above. I said Facebook will siphon off data from WhatsApp.

Yes, it's them (NSA) installing another packet sniffer and data filter to subsequently siphon from FB, so WhatsApp users can use plaintext messages and plain HTML on Facebook . Everybody's happy.

"No Q10?" -> "Buy from Chen... "

azzziim

It's seems funny, WhatsApp Accepting that Facebook selling the user data breaching the user's privacy, am getting lots market emails, I don't know how they knows my email address, as am current user of Facebook, maybe my email address sold out #lolz

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buckwylder

LOL, yeah right guys. All lies. LMAO.

"Honestly, we're honest... honestly."

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buckwylder

19 billion dollars says they're liars. LOLOLOL

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jdcfinisher

They got everyone's private data first thing. Now they say the barn door is closed and not going to be opened. I know a guy who's wife filed for divorce, so all joint assets were frozen till they could be divided. He found out latter she had already drained as many assets and sold all the things she could. Then with the divorce filed she when for half of what was left. Her lawyer said she following the law and only taking her half. Of course what Google says now can change any time.

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GrahamPink

And only last week Mr Zuckerberg was whining to the White House about security and privacy and stuff. Kinda reminds me of Robert Oppenhiemer when after building the bomb for the US Army deciding that maybe it wasn't such a good idea. Sorry there Zuck, you made your choice, now live with it.

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BBZ10wannabe

That may be all well and good that they do not plan to collect additional information, however, they don't need to. All they need is what they already have. An index which is your phone number. Facebook could cross-reference your phone number with your Facebook profile (if you entered it), browse your contacts for all of your phone numbers that also appear in Facebook and whala! A new way to send you stuff that might interest you and please advertisers in Facebook.

kv_7691

"If partnering with Facebook meant that we had to change our values, we wouldn’t have done it. "
Unless of course there was $19B involved...

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canuckcam

Read between the lines of what they don't collect, to deduce what they DO and may collect (ie data mining your conversations.)

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Mike_Luchia

As I said elsewhere, if security remains a priority, and there was no security to speak of before, I guess there will be even less security now! BBM all the way, WhatsApp is dead and gone, at least off my Z30!

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Menesht12

I see what you did there what's up ;) "privacy" you won't beat BBM for that.

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TheStoryUp

To bad the US government can make Facebook hand over all their data.

Zed30

Fish Crackers

Ok so WhatsApp doesn't have a lot of information but it has some. Facebook knows a lot about everyone, even what toilet paper they use. So it wouldn't take much for Facebook to but two and two together and figure out who you are.

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Doug Berry

Yeah, whatever. Since when Facebook cares about privacy.

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iz_26

Facebook gives away user info just like Apple and Google tho. So this statement is meaningless honestly.

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sickyute

Yeah yeah...

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bradpromac

The key words for this article should have been "For Now."

They will phase in all the privacy infringements slowly like facebook did until you are left with none.

AmaZ30ed by my awesome BlackBerry Z30

Midgeone25

Fuck off Facebook. If you really need a FB account don't forget to tell lots of lies,the more corrupt data they collect the better!

Tapping and flicking on my Zed 10

berrymanicpie

6 months later.... BREAKING NEWS What's App and NSA breaker deals for Customers personal information...

Posted from my Awesome Z10!

Qurve

First, the corporate DNA talk is already so retro, it makes me puke when someone uses...

Second, whatsapp has access to my entire phonebook but they respect my privacy...Come again, Koum? Or partner Koum rather, as he wasn't an acquisition target two weeks ago...no they partnered with Facebook :)

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laketrout73

"If partnering with Facebook meant that we had to change our values, we wouldn’t have done it."

$19 billion buys a lot of values.

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chi-town311

"It has the effect of scaring people into thinking we’re suddenly collecting all kinds of new data."

Key word... "new"

OK, they are not collecting new data, but they are still collecting data. Apparently data that can be valued just under $20 Billion .

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nicholasbaron

Even with their promise I can't see how they can guarantee this. I will not have Facebook and especially now not have anything to do with whatsapp.

Nicholas Baron

QUOC DIEN PHAM

I will stick wit my BBM more secure and better, don't need to use whatapp

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WPMan_Canada

Bottom line, Facebook owns it now and will do whatever they want. They did not pay billions to have no say or to not make the money back sometime. When the time comes those who don't agree will be shown the door.

Posted with my Z10

QuikSoft

Where there is smoke there is fire.....

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nt300

Is this a joke? What'sApp and Security do not belong in the same sentence. Regardless of the FB buyout. Un-Installed. And moved to BBM, proven and secure.

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BCITMike

My values go out the window for any amount over 1 billion.

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xhead75

But I bet if we showed you the money we could probably haggle you down a few zeroes l, ya? XD.

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freedomx20a

Lol sure like you would say "ya we selling your nu$bers". Obvious statement is obvious

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itsyaboy

"It has the effect of scaring people into thinking we’re suddenly collecting all kinds of new data."

So you guys actually are collecting data...!

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Jonesy1966

I read an article a few days ago, for the life of me I can't remember where, that essentially said that what ever Whatsapp has ever said about its own security and privacy measures was pretty much a lie. It wasn't a fanboi blog, it was a legitimate online news resource. I'll see if I can find it and post the link here.

gnirkatto

Nobody purchases a silly messenger for $19b.
He purchased 450m * 50 (estimated average number of contacts per user) = 22.5b (!) contacts.
And then he won't make use of that? Laughable.

Oh well and they don't ask for our names etc., how great is that. But they request access to our phone books, with no limitation to phone numbers only. He may just have forgotten to talk about that in his blog!

And they promise to not make use of all that, after having paid $19b?
Do they think we are idiots?

raino

Of course it helps when anything that actually comes up gets drowned out with an "overstated."

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/apps/news/whatsapp-refutes-android-app-security-...

root56

Bad request. Invalid page?

raino

Weird. Try this: gadgets.ndtv.com/apps/news/whatsapp-refutes-android-app-security-flaw-claims-calls-them-overstated-495274

thymaster

I find this statement hard to swallow even before the Facebook take over. The security and privacy concern was long before the take over and why address it now.

Karan Mohal

"You don’t have to give us your name and we don’t ask for your email address. We don’t know your birthday. We don’t know your home address. We don’t know where you work. We don’t know your likes, what you search for on the internet or collect your GPS location." ... they should continue: "Facebook has taken care of all this missing data for us..." lol

emmuniz1

#BBM4All #BBMCrossPlatform

I'm MongezaurioBerry

MwineBBVet

"and we really have no plans to change that." What's the "really" for? It means they have no plans for now. I no longer use the app, so it doesn't impact me but I suspect that WhatsApp will be changing at some point, maybe it will be an opt-in program or most likely an opt out. Facebook having access to your telephone number maybe should be enough to make you think twice?

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stmisery

If anyone believes their privacy is safe with either company they're dead wrong. I think it's time for me to say goodbye to them both.

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Geenius Gray

BlackBerry for President... #nocontest #nosecurityconcerns #thatisall

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BBstarBB

Yeah right for sure..LOL...

kcmagnet

Funny I just installed Whatsapp for kicks. They asked for permission to see my device identification, shared files, emails and pins messages, GPS location, and microphone. Happy to know that they don't actually collect it, but they still ask for access.

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Prem WatsApp

Thou surely art kidding, brother. ;-)

They will not ask access permissions to siphon thy data, rest thou assured. They added these permissions for thy convenience, just in case, so thou canst enjoy more features in the time that cometh. Rejoice, for: Thy data is safe....

(could not resist...)

"No Q10?" -> "Buy from Chen... "

jaffna_guy

We have to believe them. Happy with BBM

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Prem WatsApp

"Believest thou that?"

"No Q10?" -> "Buy from Chen... "

zensen

If partnering with Facebook meant that we had to change our values, we wouldn’t have done it.

I'm stopped reading here.

Yeah, I'm not stupid. For 16+ billion dollars he would whip it out...

Killjoyhere

Damage control. They didn't want to buy a turd, right?

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euter69

I dont get why blackberry is always so behind the times! I personally dont like whats app, its glitchy on my q10! Always freezes and just isnt as smooth as BBM! I wish blackberry would just get their ass in gear and makes BBM as good as it can be!

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bbkym

In our dna? Sounds like the last words from bbm. Fb will data mine you conversations weather it's this year or 5 years from now.

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martinjdub

Dear WhatsApp, can I buy my security back now that you sold out to FB who is the corner stone of privacy ?

Didn’t think so

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skeuri

Only one question really matters and it always come down to "follow the money"

Why would Facebook pay $19,000,000,000.00 for a service that grosses $1.00 x 450,000,000 annually at most? Break even after 42 years? Even with the potential of expanding the userbase through this merger, this is ridiculous.

Now before Facebook going public there may have been the tiniest bit of credibility to FB's "better internet for all" BS... but now their investors are the customers and we are the products being sold.

I don't buy into this BS for one minute.

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Carlos_E

It we be fun when people starts to get ads based on their conversations

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dejanh

Yeah right. Facebook bought them just so WhatsApp stays exactly the same. Whatever you say Mr. PR.

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axeman1000

Take the cell number, enter it into 411, you now have address and name. Try that with a Bbm pin.

That is true security, not this what ca may call it security lol.

Hate solves nothing, Respect gains everything!

theRock1975

Yeah balls WhatsApp, BALLS!

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xhead75

Don't question my skepticism. I have 19,000,000,000 reasons to doubt this a partnership garnering autonomy.

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DaSchwantz

Whatevs

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parapep10

Too funny. Facebook is arguing with the fact that the Government is too involved in there information. Whatsup is trying to convince us that security and privacy are there main focus. They would like that put it's far from the truth. Do we forget how many times Whatsup got hacked in the past years. Facebook buys them for what then. Investors know that personal information is King for these companies. Its the price of doing business. People need to figure it out themselves.

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kawikaratekid

I don't believe that at all... Whatsapp is gone. The second Facebook purchased it is the second I deleted it.

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Hibbylinx81

Whatsapp and security/privacy cannot be used in the same sentence! With FB they r a perfect match - low on security...the new 'privacy' settings on BB10 are a farce, they don't work!!

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swtnotZ10

Lol yeah, and the NSA said, "No, we are not spying", until Snowden said otherwise. I'm just waiting for the hammer to drop and all those that placed their trust in the likes of Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, Google start crying fowl.

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RetroAndreas

Facebook now has WhatsApp users mobile #'s

Too funny

bbmyyz

No offense to you FB/Whatsapp haters, but you've probably given up enough personal information to Amazon, ebay, your entire Google search history, and at least some of you must have a FB account. Even if you don't willingly give out your info, your personal information will be hacked eventually by retailers with weak security, if it hasn't already in a Target-like info breach.

canuckbear

I'm not dead yet. Neither is my desire for privacy. Yes, its an uphill battle, we know.

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Asuhmiaseh

So let's make it even easier for em?

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DaedalusWren

Yes, your right. But also is it a fact that a lot of us have lived many years and are inching our way to the grave but it still doesn't mean that we have to become someone's bitch and roll over playing dead. Come on now. What kind of a person would really agree with your observation and be complacent about it to the point of assuming the position allowing even more of our personal data to be taken from us willingly? Perhaps you like it and have given over to these thieves, but I would think that most of us still have our dignity intact.

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canuckbear

Put it in writing

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Kristijonas

Haha, i've deleated whatsapp as soon as the news about it came out ;)

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rjkolo

I don't believe that for a minute...but for those of you who use it I hope it is true.

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nt300

This was not a fair comparison what's so ever. iPhones are NOT "Premium" products. Just "Premium" Cost and "Premium" Marketing to give people the Illusion that they are "Premium".

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wincyUt

Hey WhatsApp is saying "just trust us, everything gonna be alright". ;) Lmao!!! "Facebook just gave us 19billion because they really like our name and nothing else."

Orion Cristopher

What do you expect them to say?

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CEO-Bruno

Jan koum sold WhatsApp to Facebook for 19 Billion dollars.

For 19 Billion dollars I don't think Facebook give +/+:: what Jan Koum thinks, believe. Facebook will do whatever they want with Whatsapp.

I talked few android users. They said they are now getting calls from people on Facebook they never shared numbers with or ever want to. This is reality!!

Imagine now you have teenager on Facebook, and now pedophile is talking to your daughter in your house through Facebook calls.

As time goes by, slowly people will learn & also say we don't give /:+!: what Jan Koum says!! Reality will be privacy no more.

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joshua_sx1

It's business... it's either you be part of that or not, it is up to us...

And I don't think that WhatsApp is forcing us to be part of their business... they are offering the services, and it is up to individual to decide - if we want it... or not...

If we owned the company, we might do the same thing i.e. maximize the profits as much as possible...

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LuVJuGGs

No offense to whatsapp but fb would not have spent 19 big rocks if they weren't going to gain some sort of data mining advantage. I stopped using it instantly and then it went down the weekend after...I'm sure if you have it linked to Facebook and the permission setting is not tight it will steal your information. or fb will do it by slowly changing the privacy policy over time...it's what they are all about

I flick!

z1nsane

What strategic value did Facebook and WhatsApp see in a partnership if both remain independent? I'm really curious to see what the synergy they each saw was (well, Whatsapp made a lot off the sale).

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Old_Mil

Sure. Because we know the billions they spent to buy it was because they felt bad for not hiring the developer. Facebook should really change its url to .gov

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nbaliga

You really have to read carefully what they say without actually saying it: Whatsapp doesn't have all that info, but Facebook does, and now they can tie everything together and Whatsapp can still claim they don't collect anything.

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blackberry008

If someone tries to chat on whatsapp, just ask them to use bbm instead

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Asuhmiaseh

Exactly. I tell my peeps, sorry...Bbm only zone. one person now absolutely loves PINGING And the immediate D/R confirm.

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TheBBguru

I guess now Whatsapp has the money to pay lawyers and PR folks to draft statements like these. Do I believe them?!?! HELL NO. Do we believe Google when they say 'do no evil?' it's such a subjective statement.

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Fevr

You're owned by facebook now. You don't get a say as to what your values are anymore. You are facebooks female dog.

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Zxenith

'Double speak' joke of the day.
NSA, Facebook, privacy.

'My Enigma' for me...

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Bacon Munchers

Nice LIE WhatsApp.

Good thing that nobody in their right mind believes you.

Go BBM!

BlackBerrari

Wow... looks like someone is really pissed off of reading true nonsense in the newspapers about himself and his products...

So, dear CrackBerry Community, let's welcome Mr. Koum on board of the boat for the misunderstood ones...

Anyway, I do believe him, but I also believe that he and his principles have been screwed by zucks... c'mon, did he really think that FB was on some sort of charity trip???

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djraz_official

Facebook has no privacy. Hah

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eugene_9900

While whatsapp is for others, BBM is the one for me. I just chat with people that I really know and and only reply to people that I know via fb. I love bbm and so many people love it. Nonetheless, that doesn't mean BlackBerry should slack of making innovations and upgrades. Fix the bugs and continue to listen to your consumers, then I'm pretty sure BlackBerry will rise again. "Vision + Mission + Consistency + Innovation = BlackBerry No.1

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cyrus132

Does any body remember Hotmail before Microsoft they issued a similar statement. Here is main point nothing is private that is on the internet. I take shit all the time. Privacy is not online. Not even your phone is safe. of course excluding BlackBerry*. So give it a year and what's app will have all your info to because you already have gave it to face book. then all your words will be used against you. hahahha

*bb10 still needs some basic covert shit

JustDAppie

Just a simple thing like trying to change a name of a whazapped contact shows they have enough and don't seem to let you modify it. I had to install it on the wife's new phone. (As much as we love BBM it's the contacts on other IMs that hold us back, blinking BBM late to the cross platform game.) So now the app-formally-know-as-whazap grabs all her address book and you can't change the details, or delete them, they are read-only, just like FBs.... hmm coincidence?

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ATI nsider

Bye and Good Riddens WhatsApp. Uninstalled the moment I heard about this news. I told everybody I know to switch to BBM. A few were already on BBM, and they too are spreading the word. The more people leave WhatsApp for BBM the better for Obvious Reasons. Privacy & Security for one.

seageath

They have everything from FB plus phone number from WA.
Also they can see all the contact on WA (i do believe they can)

Sequester#WN

Point is it does not really matter what I think of Whatsapp with respect to security. Everybody I know uses it and the few who changed now use Threema which is not available for BlackBerry. So basically there is no other option for me.

Might be different in other parts of the world but for Germany and pretty much the rest of Europe this is a fact. There were quite a few articles looking at alternatives for Whatsapp in the last couple of weeks. Most of them did not even consider BBM as an alternative. There is a lot of marketing to be done.

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Qollars

Yay. Finally grew the balls to delete my whatsapp.. this calls for celebration

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Ahmad Kaddoura

No privacy at all. Simply, anyone knows your number, he can contact you. Only BBM is trusted for privacy.

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christoph77

I do think WhatsApp focuses a lot on BlackBerry OS10 because the upgrades are fast and good. Though, I'd love to see BlackBerry do more marketing on things like BBM Audio and Video Since these are TOP in delivering quality.

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jungleman99

Ya but whatsapp has your mobile number. Give that to any spy and they will find out everything about you. I stopped using whatsapp since bbm went cross platform.

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elhot69

anyone think otherwise, we trust in the privacy of whatsapp and that facebook will not see the Whatsapp Database, jejejejejejee, LOL...

DaedalusWren

Facebook, Google... companies either make legit profits by selling a product to the consumer or selling a product to those that aim to use the consumer and these two are information miners. They make their profits selling our information, so what profit is there in buying an app or company if they don't plan to exploit their purchase and bankroll their efforts by the monetary gains found in such a purchase? Whatsapp may not be planing on using the information already in their servers but you know Facebook will and has to to reap any profits it can from its investment.

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fltri

Google says do no evil, we know how that went. Zuckerberg says Facebook users are idiots. Trust us says whatsapp. You have to be an idiot to believe anything these guys say. You data is their entire value proposition. Their profits come from exploiting you.

I deleted whatsapp as soon as I heard of the sale.

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MegaMoneyMan

Yeah right!

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andriykoua

BBM only! I stopped using what's up since FB bought them!

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jimbowman111

Fuck WhatsApp. Why use WhatsApp when you can use the real thing?

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za_berry

Deleted WhatsApp and left groups because of privacy. U fortunately was unable to get others to migrate and therefore have been left out of the loop.

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kimoi

It's just a statement, but it doesn't mean anything. They say they don't have access, but if they want to, of course they have. I use Whatsapp but I would never discuss any financial business through it.

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YourMobileGuru

I don't believe it for a second. Facebook may be content to allow WhatsApp to operate independently in the short term bye eventually (probably sooner rather than later) they see going to want a return on their investment and that's going to come in the form of adds and / or an influx of new users by merging the membership databases. Regardless of what promises may have been made behind closed doors ultimately once they sign on the dotted line Facebook can do whatever they want.

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