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Posted by Bla1ze Tuesday, Jun 03, 2008 1453 days ago

I been waiting to see how this would all work since the BETA's of 4.3 on the pearl series, the pictures really explain it in detail,but I sure hope RIM and the carriers have worked out a way to exclude the "essential" data usage that will come with an OTA upgrade from their account billing as Kevin mentioned.

 
 
Posted by artie Tuesday, Jun 03, 2008 1453 days ago

SWEET!! can't wait.

 
 
Posted by jkinslow Tuesday, Jun 03, 2008 1453 days ago

Or maybe im just having a BAD DAY.............lol but really RIM please hurry up, this is like waiting for birth...........

 
 
Posted by spsands Tuesday, Jun 03, 2008 1453 days ago

Now, maybe I missed this, but is os4.5 going to be able to be downloaded ota? or once I have os4.5, then os4.6, 4.7 ... will be able to be downloaded ota??

does the current os allow for that kind of upgrade?

I have a mac, and its a pain in the butt, to borrow my sisters crappy pc to upgrade my os... the thing takes a frickin hour to boot up.

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Tuesday, Jun 03, 2008 1453 days ago

You will have to install OS4.5 manually via Desktop Manager still. Once installed, future updates will be available OTA.

 
 
Posted by Guibs Tuesday, Jun 03, 2008 1453 days ago

This is an amazing feature.

Spsands, it's my understanding that current O.S. do not support this feature. So you will need to proceed the "old" way to upgrade your BB to 4.5.

It will be a pain myself to upgrade everyone to o.s 4.5 but knowing it will be the last time I'll be doing it "manually" here at work makes this worth it.

I wonder if us, BES users will be able to create packages regarding the OS upgrades, appling pre-defined configurations to the OS upgrade, etc.

Data fee could be interesting to track. Although I'm not the one paying the bill at the end of the day, upgrade could be expensive, espicially for roaming users. I was just down to our plant in Peoria, IL and I was there for 1 week only and had about 150$ in roaming fee for my 1 week trip... ouch..

Still, an amazing feature... Now, when will 4.5 be release already? Unlike some people, I couldn't get my and on a 4.5 beta for my 8830...

 
 
Posted by skidilydidily1 Tuesday, Jun 03, 2008 1453 days ago

i have trouble upgrading mine as it is,, totally lost ,, is this thing on??....

 
 
Posted by D_Town Tuesday, Jun 03, 2008 1453 days ago

great for beginners, but up to 120 minutes for an upgrade that i can do in about 20 from my computer?

Hopefully I won't be in a situation where i absolutely must upgrade my OS while on the go. Lol
something tells me I can wait until I get home to do this.

But as I said before, for someone not comfortable doing it on a desktop or laptop, this is great news!

 
 
Posted by cbs2669 Tuesday, Jun 03, 2008 1453 days ago

This is how an update should be done. It sounds awesome.

 
 
Posted by jonp Tuesday, Jun 03, 2008 1453 days ago

sounds great, but will this count as part of my data download from Rogers? I think it will...
Is non-OTA upgrading still available?

 
 
Posted by dgsinclair Tuesday, Jun 03, 2008 1453 days ago

Listen, I don't want to hear ONE more thing about 4.5 UNTIL IT IS RELEASED! WHY oh WHY have they not released it yet. WHEN oh WHEN will they just let us have it?!?

ARGHGH.

 
 
Posted by petersn1 Wednesday, Jun 04, 2008 1453 days ago

I couldn't agree more.
Cough up the date already!

 
 
Posted by twopeaches Wednesday, Jun 04, 2008 1453 days ago

I agree heartily!

 
 
Posted by sphynx Tuesday, Jun 03, 2008 1453 days ago

jonp, this might be counted on our data charges... i for one do not have an unlimited plan since it is not offered here... a sweet feature with a bit sour consequence... hope to hear RIM excemtping this :D just hoping...

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Tuesday, Jun 03, 2008 1453 days ago

This feature is useful IF and ONLY IF you strictly use your service provider's OS. As your service provider might not have the most updated OS version, you more likely to continue use desktop installation method to update your BB. However, we are only supposed to use the OS that are compatible with our current provider as RIM suggested, right? LOL. Therefore, unless RIM finds a way to lockdown the ability of updating other providers' OS for our end-user, I don't think this OTA feature will become popular among BB addicts.

 
 
Posted by thatboyjake Tuesday, Jun 03, 2008 1453 days ago

I def agree with you...and also the point of whether there will be charges set by the carriers or RIM...Idk if all works out this will be a great feature..

 
 
Posted by D-Roc_OPP Tuesday, Jun 03, 2008 1453 days ago

Is this ota upgrading avail. To everyone? I'm using os 4.5.0.37 (8310) and I don't see any wireless upgrade options on mine. Then again I knw its still just beta but it seems like that would be a big thing to leave out

 
 
Posted by Sarlic Tuesday, Jun 03, 2008 1453 days ago

I wonder how they will deal with OS upgrades to branded devices? Right now we have to delete the Vendor.xml files locally in order to install the latest and greatest OS.

Any ideas?

 
 
Posted by JRSCCivic98 Tuesday, Jun 03, 2008 1453 days ago

Perhaps they should change Call Voicemail on the menu to Delete Vendor.xml. :lol:

Also, I'm wondering where these screenshots came from? Anyone else notice how it lists a 4.3OS version as an upgrade? Seems a little strange since CDMA Pearls and Curves have 4.3 and this is not an option. Perhaps these are pre-release shots taken a while back... the 1/8/07 would indicate this.

BTW, RIM's been working on this for more then a year and it's still not done. Lame.... I wouldn't put it past them to have leaked the current 4.5BETAs just to get some public testing at no charge. I bet they check out CB daily for the bug reports. :lol:

 
 
Posted by vaughnq Tuesday, Jun 03, 2008 1453 days ago

love the new addition to the OS, wonder how long it would take on regular ol GPRS.
That aside whats that icon beside the browser icon, below the message icon? never seen it before

 
 
Posted by kpheney Tuesday, Jun 03, 2008 1453 days ago

please PLEASE just release an update... im SICK of hearing about all the cool stuff 4.5 can do! my 6GB card stops working if i try to put on more than 2GB (a problem solved with 4.5 APPARENTLY)... STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS OR RELEASE IT!

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Tuesday, Jun 03, 2008 1453 days ago

OS 4.5? pleeeease stop talkin about that....its been over 7 months since its proposed release, probably more than that..all u blackberry sites always have an "insider" giving info as to when its going to be released or this and that...wen it comes out, jump all over it, but till then let it breathe, u arent doing anything for the people by continuously hyping them up, with no product to show...and no the beta version doesnt count...*sheesh*...

 
 
Posted by M to the K Wednesday, Jun 04, 2008 1453 days ago

I just finished installing 4.5.0.37, but I can't seem to find that wireless upgrade icon. Kevin, what beta should I be running to see that? Perhaps I just installed an outdated version...

 
 
Posted by JRSCCivic98 Wednesday, Jun 04, 2008 1453 days ago

Who requested the images pulled? Also about the update... I wanted to say it was for BES yesterday, but from the images and the article, it led me to believe that RIM had changed it to also include BIS as well. Oh well... probably better anyway, I don't want my backups on RIM's servers anyway. Bad enough they proxy everything as it is now.

 
 
Posted by rrrebo Wednesday, Jun 04, 2008 1453 days ago

Carriers can't control what OS we run now, why would this be any different?

If it is indeed limited to BES, I wonder if it will be possible to do OTA updates through Unite. I am dying to have my own little BUS! Think about it: install the OTA package on your BUS and push it out to your managed devices (or pull it from them).

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Wednesday, Jun 04, 2008 1453 days ago

I don't understand why Kevin was upset when he found out this feature is only available to BES user. The reason is very simple - this feature can be fully utilized ONLY when used in a controlled environment, such as BES. Something like Apple OS and its hardware. When BIS users (a lot of users here) are loading different version of OS along with variety of 3rd party software on their BBs, service providers have no control on how these BBs would react after the update patches the existing OS. This will definitely cause a chaos in providers' CS department when users continously report mulfunctions, errors, or even corrupted OS on their BBs. Would you want to be one of the CS there? LOL. On the other hand, BES users normally are disallowed to install any 3rd party apps without getting approval from their BES admin. Therefore, in this "controlled environment" BES admin can create a test plan to fully test out the patch before deploying it to his users, and will not have to worry too much about service interruption.

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Wednesday, Jun 04, 2008 1453 days ago

Disappointed because I was under the impression OTA updates would come to BIS customers (based on PC Mag article where they went to RIM for info). I understand your comments, but at the same time if everything is rock solid it would be sweet to just browse for available updates/OS versions on device and just have it be done.

 
 
Posted by monica_85 Wednesday, Jun 04, 2008 1453 days ago

i am still new at this whole blackberry. so how will i install the os4.5 when it is available? do i have to run the cd that came with the phone on my computer to get everything set up before i can install this new upgrade? some one please help me. thanks

 
 
Posted by Unfranchise33 Friday, Jun 06, 2008 1451 days ago

Or will they all still be there?
Thanks

 
 
Posted by Ken Brussack Sunday, Jun 08, 2008 1448 days ago

I have Mac OS X 10.4.11 with Missing Sync.
Possible to OTA download updated Blackberry OS?
I am using BIS Internet.
Hmmmm, iPhone lookin' good!!!!
That difficult to OTA the newest OS?
Could win and keep a lot of fans.
Thank you RIM for SERIOUSLY considering this capability.

 
 
Posted by Hyperplex Thursday, Nov 27, 2008 1277 days ago

After loading 4.5 onto my VZW 8330, I saw the Wireless Upgrade option in my Advanced Options, clicked it and waited while it found no updates. Now, the wireless upgrade choice is no longer there.

Will it reappear automatically when updates are available or has something gone wrong on my system?