and beacusae we know exactly what the difference is.

Ok, so?

+1

That's what I'm doing too. Paying full price (or eBay/Craigslist) and unlocking this bad boy to use on Tmo.

AT&T is taking over anyway, so eventually we'll be able to use AT&T's 3G.

I doubt UMA will work if it is not a T-mo phone. But, if you figure out how to make it work, let us know!

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I agree. Did they find some tiny little munchkin to do this ad? Her hands can barely hold that thing.

Hi @tcseacliff,

Alex from RIM here. The Torch 9860 rocks a 3.7-inch display, which is ideal for showing off web pages, videos, photos and games – all brought to life by the new BlackBerry 7 OS for a quicker and more fluid user experience.

Stop by our Inside BlackBerry Blog to read some early reviews from #TeamBlackBerry on the Torch: http://bbry.lv/qINY3c.

Cheers,
Alex, RIM Social Media Team

1. some carriers say that the phones will be available from 15th of augest so im not worried about fall
2. even if they do come out at fall the android ip5 wont be as good because they just ain't blackberrys period

Really? You think WP7 is going to eat a BlackBerry for lunch? I keep hearing Windows Phone will be a success someday, and I keep saying to those people it's been around for 10 months and it has LOST market share compared to Windows Mobile 6.5 in that time.

But then these people are probably the same people who said the Zune was much better then the iPod and was destined for success. Well Zune is dead, long live Metro on Windows Phone 7.... Oh wait..... Zune was "great" yet it flopped..... and Windows Phone IS Zune OS repackaged with a phone slapped on for good measure..... and just like Zune it's "great" but no one is buying it. I just don't have high hopes for Windows Phone. RIM and Nokia both whopped Microsoft's ass in smartphones for years and years. Nokia is dead no may they rest in peace, but RIM will continue to be the undisputed champ in enterprise for the foreseeable future and beyond.

Android is eating everyone's lunch in the consumer market but it will peak, RIM just needs to hold on to their existing customers and keep growing sales until next year and they need to get QNX on phones right the first time and they'll be just fine.

Apple will continue to be Apple and they have their core market segment which is about the same size as RIM's core customer base and both will continue to sell tens of millions of phones a year.