I don't know what you call it; the two faces, one with a smile and the other with a frown? That's how I feel about Verizon. On one hand I love them and on the other, I wish I could tell them to go do themselves. They really piss me off with some of their tactics.

Way to charge more verizon. Nothing like nicole and dimeing your customers!!! I'm guessing. This is paying for the free skype. Lol

Makes since for them I guess... they are just trying to separate everything thing in to 2 groups (business and "personal"). If enough small businesses jump ship and go to someone else for "free" BESX then the policy may change in the future; however, I bet you'll see the other guys follow suit if VZW is even somewhat successful with this plan.

Really, is this a surprise to anyone? They would charge a fee for pairing a bluetooth if they could.

VZW just bit their BIS customers in the butt! I'll just keep hanging BIS.

This appear to contredict the the "Blackberry conparaison chart" found here

http://tinyurl.com/ybcocx9

Look for the line "Pricing to get started"

For BESX it is written
Any Internet enabled BlackBerry data plan plus free BlackBerry Enterprise Server Express software and CALs.

For BES
$3,999 MSRP for 20 users + BlackBerry enterprise data plan

So who is right ? I did not install BESX yet ... Any Verizon BESX users around ?

You guys are surprised? Its called BESX not BISX. RIM doesn't control carrier pricing for services.

I got so angry I couldn't sleep when BBLeaks broke the news last thursday night. I went to t-mo friday morning to ask if they were charging for BESX. They said "no" obviously then threw me a killer deal I took back to vzw. I presented the article print out from BBleaks. Both the customer service for business accounts over the phone and my local vzw rep seemed perplexed about the obvious price gouging going on. I showed them both the print out from the BESX info from the BlackBerry page clearly stating that it works on ANY data plan. I kindly asked twice to be given quotes to close my lines (19 of them). Oh, they tried not to panic. I'm waiting to hear back from my business vwz rep. Apparently they're trying to offer me a 20% on my entire bill along with a "$20 flat BlackBerry package". Not sure what that last part means, but I'll know more after meeting the vzw rep.

I love vzw, but I made it clear to them that I'm willing to pay the termination fees and sacrifice the best service in So Cal over this obvious rape of their BIS customer.

Another prime example why Verizon will be losing Blackberry customers. I wonder if RIM could and would interfere with Verizon's greed..

wish I was surprised.

I'm still perplexed as to why so many people go with VZW.

Verizon has become an out of control monopoly. They need to be regulated and dispersed as did AT&T back in the day when they were out of control. What Verizon does to it's customers will not stop until we just stop supporting them. As I have told the reps.... I am currently saving up to end my current contract with their company and will be moving on.... as soon as I get the 350 plus ETF fee... Verizon is out of control and must be stopped!!!

above its says..

"Note: Customers on the Email and Web for BlackBerry $29.99 data feature MAY NOT utilize BESX."

so does that mean i can stay and keep my BIS as a simple guy with a berry at $30/mth or will I have to be bumped up to $45/mth?

I do not need to utilize BESX, I'm happy just the way things are now with all the things I can do.

anyone?

I have had verizon for 9 years but I am officially through. I took my verizon blackberry and I partnered up with a company that offers free unlimited voice, text and data after only referring three customers. watch video at www.TheWowSecret.info . My phone service is now 100% free.

i dont get why anyone is suprised by this. they have always charged two different rates, one for BIS and one for BES. BESX has nearly all of the same functionality as full-on BES, so why would anyone expect BIS pricing? it makes sense considering there is more frequent data calls to/from the server thus increasing strain on the data network, so why wouldn't they charge for this?

I have been running BESX since the day it came out with 4 BB's all with Verizon BIS. I don't know what this means for us. I guess only time will tell.

I am a former Verizon client and I am not at all surprised by this. They have always been about "nicole and diming" their customers for everything they can. Yes, they have the most coverage out there, but I have never had an issue with my provider anywhere I have gone. I do hope they loose customers because of this but I doubt it. For everyone that jumps ship from them one will go to them because of their network without knowing that they'll get screwed by having to pay for EVERYTHING. Hardly anything is just included with Verizon. Good riddance to a bad cell phone company.

I told several of my clients last week about the new BESX offering, and every single one of them were finally willing to give up their WinMo devices and make the switch. Now, they're so disillusioned that they will most likely leave VZW and have delayed the BESX rollout (which impacts my income).

From a technical standpoint, what I don't understand is this: Why charge extra for BES/BESX data traffic? From what I've read, BES/BESX uses way less bandwidth than POP or IMAP. Am I wrong here?

Sorry. Maybe I'm missing something is all this, but I just don't see the big deal. What's the advantage of using BESX over BES? If you already have BES through a corporate account, why would you need to bother with BESX or any of it's "entry-level" features?