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Posted by SteveO86 Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

Slightly disappointing but I do wish they would hurry up with the Bold2

 
 
Posted by narci Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

Isn't the 9700 the bold2?

 
 
Posted by farico Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

ye, but I think he means Tour2 = Bold CDMA or Bold 9650 or Bold2 CDMA... is the same

 
 
Posted by SteveO86 Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 778 days ago

The 9650 was renamed to from Tour2 to Bold2

 
 
Posted by dreedy1 Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

I figured it was coming pretty soon....

 
 
Posted by jorGeorge Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

One year for a trackpad and wifi...

so not worth it.

 
 
Posted by bomkweesha Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

Totally agree!

 
 
Posted by ro1224 Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

I don't know how RIM can expect to hold onto market share when other manufacturers are leaving them in the dust.

Apple is gearing up for the next iPhone with an OS refresh just prior to (though I hate the evil AT&T and would probably NEVER own an iPhone because of it), and both Sprint and Verizon are gearing up to welcome a host of HTC and Samsung, Android-based phones that make BlackBerry SmartPhones look like Fisher-Price toys.

I loved my T-Mobile Curve 8320 and the upgrade to the 8900, though the 8900. When T-Mo's signal took a dive where I live, I eventually moved over to Sprint and the Tour 9630 and that's when the nightmare began. Overheating, slow OS, spinning clock, trackball, trackball, trackball and now a loose micro-USB connector. The battery cover ALWAYS was loose and the once fabulously smooth "bold-style" keyboard now squeaks like a 20 year-old bed.

So, waiting a year for RIM to "enhance" the Tour with a trackpad and wifi, when it should've had BOTH features from the start doesn't impress me in the least.

 
 
Posted by jussimple Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

Totally agree, not worth the upgrade yet.....

 
 
Posted by Wizetux Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

So from the image above it claims the Tour 9630 + non camera. Does this mean that the camera version I just got last October will not be getting the axe?

 
 
Posted by jmdearras Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

Looks like only the non-camera version is ending.

 
 
Posted by DustoMan Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

Wow Verizon. At least you could wait to kill it until it's a year old! How about a trade-up program for Nexus One? :o)

Does this mean no more software updates after June?

 
 
Posted by Palmiros Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

My dad bought his Tour a few months ago (December 09), same time I did.
He bought it from Best Buy and also purchased extended warranty at that time. A month ago, (~March 2010) he went to get an exchange for it, as the trackball was acting up; Best Buy offered him a Bold 9700 instead, as the 9630's had been discontinued, and the store stock was at 0. Maybe it's just in Canada.. but this article is old news.

 
 
Posted by dreedy1 Sunday, Apr 11, 2010 777 days ago

How could they replace it with a Bold 9700? That's a GSM device and wouldn't work on the Verizon network...or whatever CDMA network you have up there.

 
 
Posted by BETA13 Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

I'd like to think they'll do the same as they did with the Storm owners, but I'm doubting it. I couldn't have stayed with my Samsung u740 a little longer. Oh no. I just had to have a new phone. *sigh*

 
 
Posted by xooxlisaxoox Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

It says that the "non camera" ones are EOL. It says nothing about the ones with the camera. So it doesn't seem like the tour with the camera is EOL

I noticed that it says "Tour 9630 + non camera." does that actually mean both models (with or without camera) are discontinued?

 
 
Posted by SteveO86 Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

I think the + non camera does refer to both..

But I could be wrong.

 
 
Posted by elvin1983 Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

Makes me glad I got the Tour, I don't really see the need to get the 9650, I love my Tour 9630.

 
 
Posted by lobbyintx Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

The 9630 better continue to fuction properly or I'll be upset!!!!!!!!

 
 
Posted by blackberryisaddicting Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

Does this mean that the bold 9650 will be released before that, or at the same time as the tours EOL. I'm thinking we will see it in early May. Any thoughts bla1ze?

 
 
Posted by Bla1ze Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

I'm predicting an announcement at WES of the 9650, roll through to Mid may and see a release. Then, from there..Tour 9630 sell through of remaining stock.

 
 
Posted by blackberryisaddicting Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

Ok, thank you! My upgrade is on May 6th, just wanted to see it before then so I don't have to wait!

 
 
Posted by John Yester Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

9630 and 9630 with out will be gone....

The + is saying that device is included.

 
 
Posted by rawrimadinosaur Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

So, will the tour still have updates or no?
I think that all current tour users should get the Essex.
its only fair :)

 
 
Posted by longhairbilly Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

I can upgrade in August. I need more then a trackpad and wifi. I hope RIM have something up their sleeve at WES.

 
 
Posted by JasW Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

in the works. All of this stuff is just stasis. If they don't put the Talladega and Dakota out there by summer, they're going to suffer serious defections among the casual and consumer BB users wwhen the new iPod drops, I hate to say. The first 9000 users on AT&T start becoming eligible for upgrades in July.

 
 
Posted by elviserne Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

What about replacements? Do I get another refab or do I get updated to the 9650? It would be nice to get my 9630 replaced with the 9650.

 
 
Posted by mike340t Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

highly unlikely will get a better phone.. Just wishful thinking... They usually have years of support.. Heck they still sell the pearl lol..

 
 
Posted by abdul Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

Ive had this 8130 pearl for over two years and now I can get the 9650 Bold.

 
 
Posted by Scion.Nole Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

So the nightmare is coming to an end. Good! I wouldn't want anybody else to experience the already well known frustrations that come w. owning a tour. I just hope support continues so I don't feel like a complete jackass for outright purchasing this phone at full retail price when it was first released. As for any future RIM announcements at WES I'll be tuned in but if they read these blogs I'd like to make an announcement of my own: Iphone OS4 is looking pretty damn good and so are the nexus one a handful of these other smartphones on the market. With the expanding popularity of twitter and apps that share sms/mms group messaging across platforms losing BBM is no longer that big of a deal. So in other words, Shape up, or watch the masses ship out.

 
 
Posted by experiment626 Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

You have my deepest sympathies.The Tour should never have been released in the state it was in.

 
 
Posted by xmalibux11 Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

So Verizon just recently gave the Tour 5.0, with PTT and backup assistant, and now they are gonna drop the phone. What about Storm 1. I am still waiting for my PTT and backup assistant.

 
 
Posted by bbvine Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

In June my phone will be one year old. Does that mean I'm stuck with a EOL phone for a year before I can upgrade without buying back my contract??????????????????????????

 
 
Posted by df79transam Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

I think this so funny, you tour owners are gonna be feeling like storm owners, left out in the cold, wait and see if I'm wrong. They dropped you the 5.0 update to pacify you, and that's it, no more updates cause the Tour 2, Bold 9650 as their calling it, well get all the attention. I'm so done with RIM, android based phones are looking better the more and more RIM keeps doing this to folks. HelloHTC Incredible here I come.

 
 
Posted by red72 Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

The track pad killed the Tour 9630 in my opinion! They didn't have to change the name though.

 
 
Posted by experiment626 Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

All Tours must eventually end.

 
 
Posted by race2c Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

Good thing I can live with my 9630 for the time being. My upgrade for VZW is in May, but will wait until my 9630 dies. The upgrade will wait until that day, and then RIM will probably have something even better out by then.

 
 
Posted by gregerator Friday, Apr 09, 2010 778 days ago

That Verizon seems to be the carrier with the trouble? First the storm, released in a poor state and replaced in about a year. Now the Tour (per the post above) released in a poor state and replaced in about a year... Hmm.

 
 
Posted by navygreengolf Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 778 days ago

that the only phones on verizon that ever seem to be an issue are the blackberries? If you're going to try and bash a carrier maybe you should be a little bit more specific about what the problems are. I'm loyal to VZ and I'm also loyal to BB but you're just being a little harsh now.

 
 
Posted by gregerator Sunday, Apr 11, 2010 777 days ago

As many will attest, VZW seemingly asked for a touch Berry and then rushed RIM to get it done. With the Tour, there were solid rumors of the Tour with WiFi and TP before the 9630 was in the market. I'm curious as to how much VZW pushes RIM for these devices rather than letting RIM fully develop the idea first. I'm not sure RIM is to blame for these things.

 
 
Posted by DC2GSR Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 778 days ago

Sprint has listed the Tour for an EOL of May

 
 
Posted by BodomJ Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 778 days ago

if you already own a tour then who cares if it will be EOL? it isn't like the phone is going to implode into dust in your hands. What does it matter? Your phone isn't going to change.

*sigh* the problem with RIM isn't the phones or the company---it is their (mostly) stupid fan base. What is so wrong with RIM/BB? what do other smartphones do that most other BB's can't?

I have a tour. I haven't had any problems with it. Easily the best phone I've ever owned. The 5.0 update only made is better.

And why were tour owners ripped off? if you bought it, then you KNEW THAT IT WOULD'T HAVE WIFI OR A TRACK PAD SO WHY THE HELL ARE YOU BITCHING ABOUT NOT HAVING IT? Jesus christ. WiFi isn't even that important. Without a doubt that most people who have wifi phones never even frickin use it. I've owned a wifi phone in the past used the wifi maybe twice the entire life of the phone. whatever. I'm done with this site; I can't take all the fucking bitching.

 
 
Posted by Dr.Boost Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 778 days ago

VZW Told me NO phones will have wifi on them anymore....guess that was just a lie to get me to buy.

Less then 7 months old and its replaced by the same basic device just problems sorted.

Its obvious the first Tour had issues, RIM admits this by making a newer revised version....in their little way of not admitting they sold a CRAP phone they change the name. They also get out of replacing the original by calling it something else.

Not pleased at all.

 
 
Posted by jallot Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 777 days ago

You will care when OS leaks are no longer released for your device, or 3rd party app won't support the device.

I have owned a 9630 since it was released. Have had to replace the unit twice because of a defective trackball. Have depended on OS leaks since day 1 to make it run at a level which I deem acceptable. For me, it's not about the WIFI or trackpad, it's about RIM's commitment to me as a customer, to support the device for more than 1 year. I'm not about to replace my phone, but I am concerned that in a year's time no more OS leaks will come my way. Also concerned about 3rd party app support.

 
 
Posted by skyboxer Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 778 days ago

Only had to return one Tour for the trackball, and that was at 30 days. I still feel its a great device. I'm sure this means no more updates unless some other carrier is still interested in updating. I'm pretty much addicted to messing with my OS wheter it be official, leaked, or hybrid. I don't wanna be stuck running the .419 radio forever, so I'll likely upgrade to the new Bold just so I can keep getting my fix. Now here's hoping we get some kind of deal, whether it be an early upgrade or whatever.

 
 
Posted by terryzx Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 778 days ago

I'm on my 9th Tour since July and I am completely SICK of constantly reinstalling everything. That POS should have been kill after the first month.

 
 
Posted by ESVATour Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 778 days ago

I haven't had any of the major problems commonly associated with the Tour (my battery cover is a little loose, but who cares). Running .484 (.419?? who knows) official from whomever released it and it's been running like a dream.

The trackball sticks maybe once a month, but I just blow on it and it's fixed.

Do I wish RIM waited a couple of months so they could have released the 9630 with a trackpad & wifi? Sure. But my Tour is doing everything I need it to do.

By the time my upgrade is here (Aug 2011) I'm hoping the LTE iphone is release on VZW. I'd at least feel better about the flagship device having an EOL in 1 year if it was happening to everyone (all the same phone).

 
 
Posted by jakeh0 Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 778 days ago

cant believe a year has gone by and theres still no measurable improvement from RIM. oh wait we have BBM barcodes...

 
 
Posted by kc tony Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 778 days ago

For those who have never experienced any issues with their Tours, lucky you. Between me and the wife, we've gone through a total of seven (7) devices in six months not as a result of abuse or third party application overload. Believe me it could have easily been nine Tours but we surrendered. We got tired of committing time and energy returning to Verizon and or reinstalling data on replacement phones. Rather than kill a device only a year into its release to make way for the next best thing (wifi and a track pad otherwise the same phone....seriously?) I'd like to see RIM reward and value their existing customers stuck with flawed devices by immediately addressing heavily reported issues and spending more time testing devices prior to their release.

 
 
Posted by Dr.Boost Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 778 days ago

x2

 
 
Posted by gwtiff54 Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 777 days ago

So glad I got rid of my crapberry for my droid. Rim is stuck in the mud.

 
 
Posted by sharinlea Sunday, Apr 11, 2010 776 days ago

So you're visiting this site because...?

 
 
Posted by radgatt Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 777 days ago

When april 29 comes I'm dumping my tour for the htc incredible...yeah I'm paying full retail for it but it will be worth it. My email account is with gmail so email won't be an issue for me. I only have 15 bbm contacts but I have all their numbers. The android market place has more apps anyway so I think this move will be the best for me. Not to mention the browser being better. Good luck whenever webkit comes out...

 
 
Posted by Kullkid92x Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 777 days ago

I've always wanted to know this, when a phone does reach its death, sale death that is, does it stop getting software updates from the carrier?

 
 
Posted by gregerator Sunday, Apr 11, 2010 777 days ago

I've got the 8900 on TMO and have had it since pre-sale, Jan 09. Before it sold, I had dld 2 leaked OSes. The official TMO OS is still 4.6.1. But even tho they've axed it, leaked OSes are still popping up. I don't know that anyone else has dropped it tho: ATT, Rogers, or other world carriers. When did we see the last 4.5 update for an 83 or 81?

 
 
Posted by gbororats Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 777 days ago

So the device goes EOL prior to the 1 year warranty even being up. Thats odd, i wonder if they give early upgrade discounts to the new bold?

 
 
Posted by andrelowe Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 777 days ago

y mot mw

 
 
Posted by dav05674 Sunday, Apr 11, 2010 777 days ago

The only things I would change is the trackball to trackpad, and add Wi-Fi. With the new software update, my tour is working great. I'll miss it (Eventually, when I upgrade in Nov.)

 
 
Posted by sharinlea Sunday, Apr 11, 2010 776 days ago

I love my Tour. I've had it since September, and had zero problems with it. 7 different people I know all got Tours after me, and none of them have had a single problem with theirs either (half vzw, half sprint). Unless you were part of the early adopters (with the trackball issues), those that claim to have had to return 5, 7, 9 times.... I really wonder how many times they have returned other phones.

I wanted the pad when I first heard about it, but all my friends with other BBs with it, miss the ball, so I figure I'm not missing out on much. And the wifi, I think I would find useful for the FB app which is slow as molasses, but other than that, I'd probably never think to turn it on.

I'll hold out for when they release a touch screen with physical keyboard.

 
 
Posted by gfeistel Sunday, Apr 11, 2010 776 days ago

So will Verizon offer any smartphones without cameras after this? That was the main reason my wife and I got the 9630.

 
 
Posted by jongross100 Sunday, Apr 11, 2010 776 days ago

at least one