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Posted by Sirhil Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

Great News if you ask me. USB on the go is one feature that I know many people will including myself will be a welcomed to the playbook

 
 
Posted by zensen Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

Like me! I was disappointed with not having sd integration (external storage) but now that its confirmed to have usb otg, I have pretty much crossed the line in getting the playbook. I just need a release date in my part of the world :D

 
 
Posted by imcurved Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

Splendid! Also an ability to print too.

 
 
Posted by mscooley Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

first! good stuff.

 
 
Posted by mscooley Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

Ok maybe second by 59 seconds.

 
 
Posted by Colleennl Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

When the native email client hits the playbook will I be able to backup my email to the playbook (wifi). Because my kpn.blackberry mail has no web interface and I like to have a readeble copy of the mails

Or is the question to advanced at this time ?

 
 
Posted by Yousif Abdullah Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

Hopefully I'll know the answer to that once the native email client is released. That's all I can say for now, but keep your hopes high; if it won't be supported by RIM then it may be supported by a third party.

Peace,
Yousif.

 
 
Posted by kyleheney Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

Does this mean the Playbook will be able to access my Torch's media card and subsequent files (music) that are on it?! RE: "access to the file system"

"And while we are on topic on tethering, Mike Kirkup said that tethering a BlackBerry smartphone to a BlackBerry PlayBook (through BlackBerry Bridge) will enable support for email, calendar, contacts, MemoPad, BBM and access to the file system. "

 
 
Posted by Yousif Abdullah Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

I forwarded this question to the Developer Relations team at RIM. I'll report back with any findings I make, thank you for raising this matter.

Peace,
Yousif.

 
 
Posted by sf49ers Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

yes, you will be able to access your phones file system via Playbook. It has been confirmed in one of the dev conf. Here is the forums link

[URL]http://forums.crackberry.com/f222/details-blackberry-developers-conf-toronto-today-600211/[/URL]

 
 
Posted by BigPlayChad8 Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

I appreciate the article and the in depth description regarding the master-slave USB host.

 
 
Posted by Yousif Abdullah Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

Thank you for the comment. I strive to bring quality content to CrackBerry and more is hopefully coming of equal, if not higher quality. Your support is much appreciated.

Peace,
Yousif.

 
 
Posted by biggulpseh Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

Good job. Keep it coming!

 
 
Posted by wacky1980 Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

i can use a wall wart to charge my bb phone. i can use usb from a desktop and a laptop to charge my bb phone. with usb-on-the-go, will the playbook also allow battery charging of my bb phone?

 
 
Posted by Yousif Abdullah Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

To the best of my knowledge, no. USB On-The-Go only permits data to go back and forth, not power. In a host-slave connection, the host (computer) may provide power to the slave device, but USB On-The-Go is not meant for this. The reason being that a computer is typically connected to AC power and not running off a battery, thus allowing for a higher draw of current.

In what you suggest, the BlackBerry PlayBook would sacrifice battery charge to the BlackBerry smartphone, while also requiring power for the USB connection between the two devices. This would only result in a minimal power advantage in respect to your BlackBerry smartphone, but a huge drain on the BlackBerry PlayBook in terms of battery capacity. While theoretically possible, your suggestion is not ideal in practice.

The best you could ask for is a separate accessory that allows AA cells to be used for charging your BlackBerry PlayBook / smartphone. I am not sure if such an accessory is in existence, but I'm looking into this as I'm personally interested as well. Thank you for raising this issue.

Peace,
Yousif.

 
 
Posted by leafs123 Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

Pardon my ignorance, but does this mean that you would be able to use a USB stick as mass storage from which you can access content on the PlayBook?

 
 
Posted by Yousif Abdullah Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

A good question. In theory, what you are suggesting is possible, but this will depend on RIM's implementation of USB On-The-Go on the BlackBerry PlayBook. If I may quote myself, "USB On-The-Go [..] allows a typical slave device to function as a (limited) host."

The reason that the word limited was covered in parentheses is simple: the manufacturer may ultimately decide what functionality to allow via USB On-The-Go, and what should be left out. If RIM felt generous, they could go for a full implementation of the protocol, thus allowing mass storage devices to be hooked up to the BlackBerry PlayBook. But then again, RIM could go with a simpler implementation that only works with digital cameras, for instance.

At this very point it is difficult to say what kind of implementation, if any, is coming. Keep your eyes wide open and hopefully we'll know more soon.

Peace,
Yousif.

 
 
Posted by Setanta Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

"At this very point it is difficult to say what kind of implementation, if any, is coming."

"If any"

So you title the article:

USB On-The-Go support for the BlackBerry PlayBook coming post-launch (and more!)

And then totally disclaim it in the comment section???

Come on Man! I was ready to cancel my 64GB and change it to a 16GB on the basis of the headline.

 
 
Posted by Yousif Abdullah Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

Pardon for that, I was referring to the implementation of support for mass storage devices. As per the Tweets, USB host support (USB On-The-Go) is coming, but details on that are very skim. Sorry again for any confusion.

Peace,
Yousif.

 
 
Posted by zensen Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

in a a word, yes. It'll even have the possibility to connect a ordinary USB keyboard/Mouse/gamepad.

 
 
Posted by mapsonburt Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

The HW itself has the full capability to support USB On the Go... what'll be interesting is whether or not developers will be able to add drivers to this device. I suspect that they will as under QNX, device drivers run in protected space not much different than normal programs. If that's true, then I can see all kinds of neat new USB peripherals coming to the PlayBook.... keyboards, OBD-II (onboard diagnostics for automobiles... mechanics running around with the diag tool, all online manuals, etc in their hand), interfaces to medical equipment, etc. Very Cool.

 
 
Posted by nextlevel88 Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

Am I the only one that really didn't see anything *confirming* USB OTG in that tweet? "Investigating adding" doesn't exactly sound like, "It's on the way" to me...

 
 
Posted by Setanta Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

That's what I thought too. If USB otg was to be implemented, why would anyone spend an extra $100-$200 for the extra memory, when a cheap card reader would work just as well???

I'm not convinced. Meanwhile I will "investigate adding" Powerball winner to my resume this weekend ;-)

 
 
Posted by Yousif Abdullah Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

Please remember that USB On-The-Go implementation may vary greatly from manufacturer to manufacturer and from device to device, hence RIM may or may not include support for mass storage devices, but still come up with USB host capability for other add-on devices, such as audio interfaces. As I said in my article, USB On-The-Go [..] allows a typical slave device to function as a (limited) host." The keyword is 'limited'.

Peace,
Yousif.

 
 
Posted by Yousif Abdullah Friday, Apr 01, 2011 422 days ago

But it was not denied either, and having experience with QNX RTOS v4, I do know for a fact that the software is fully capable of complete USB host support. RIM is likely introducing USB On-The-Go with accessories of their own, maybe then expanding it to an open protocol that developers may use as well. I will of course keep you up-to-date on any developments regarding this feature, please do not lose hope yet (:

Peace,
Yousif.

 
 
Posted by FuzzDog525 Friday, Apr 01, 2011 421 days ago

All great news. Hopefully they can ship playbooks to developers sonner than April 19th.

 
 
Posted by RescueCop Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 421 days ago

Support for USB mass storage class devices is a key issue for me, so I suppose I'll have to hold off on committing to a Playbook for a bit. Some USB MSC devices (such as portable hard drives) are going to require too much power to operate from a USB OTG port, it should be sufficient to drive many (if not all) USB memory sticks. Many of the people that I deal with bring data and documents to conferences and meetings on USB memory, so being able to access those devices is a major issue for me. If I can't access USB memory sticks via the Playbook, I'll still have to bring along a netbook to every conference or major meeting that I attend. If I have to do that, there's not much justification for spending hundreds of $ on a tablet.

 
 
Posted by Decartes Monday, Apr 18, 2011 405 days ago

Hi Yousif, are you sure that USB OTG only transfers data but not power? Is there any other way to draw power from the blackberry at all??

Thanks!

 
 
Posted by legohead Wednesday, Jun 15, 2011 347 days ago

it would be great if they allowed a USB modem like from Clearwire to plug into the port - even if i needed to get a USB-MiniB adapter to connect it. That would really make it a great device as you could use the same internet plan whether at home, with your tablet or laptop. why pay extra for some 3g plan?