These BlackBerry devices take advantage of Verizon XLTE

BlackBerry Q10 with Verizon XLTE
By Simon Sage on 19 May 2014 11:29 am EDT
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So, you're wondering if your Verizon device works with that shiny new XLTE network that just went live in your area? Well, here's a list of BlackBerry devices that can currently take advantage of the added speed from AWS spectrum. Of course as new phones and tablets come out, we can expect that they'll support Verizon's XLTE network.

You can get the full list of XLTE-enabled Verizon phones over here in their online store. Were you in one of the XLTE launch areas? Also a Verizon customer? Let us know if you're seeing an appreciable difference in data speeds. Are you stuck with a device that doesn't support XLTE? The rest of y'all, would you be willing to switch to Verizon to get in on XLTE?

74 comments

kalonjie

Would this be coming to Canada ?

Z10 baby

raino

"XLTE" is basically band 4 LTE. You guys already have that. Wayyy longer than Verizon.

tranquil45

Two? Why not z10?

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diegonei

"Old" hardware. One can try to predict the future, but you won't always get it right.

Dave Bourque

Two premium devices.

Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.2141

mcstravi

Probably like the FM radio, miracast, etc. The hardware (chipset) doesn't support it. Just like why your HD doesn't support 4K HD or 3D.

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taylortbb

It's a question of which mix of bands each device model has. The Z10 STL100-3 has AWS LTE and would connect to Verizon's new LTE network, but it doesn't have the right 700MHz bands to use the old LTE network, also no CDMA support. The STL100-4 has the old LTE bands and CDMA for Verizon, but no AWS LTE. So it's not a fundamental limitation of the Z10 as a whole, it's just that the Z10 band mix is different.

The Z10 band mix is suboptimal for Verizon, but it is right for other carriers. Producing a new phone model for every single carrier with exactly the right bands would be far too expensive, so this is one of the compromises that has to be made. The Q10 mix of bands isn't as good here in Canada, where I want both AWS and 2600MHz LTE in the same phone. But then on Verizon it supports both.

mousii

You seem to know what you are talking about :)

So for Canada, if the Q10 is not the best mix, which one is? I have a Q10

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taylortbb

There is no BlackBerry (or I think any other phone) that has all three bands in use by Rogers. Rogers has both the SQN100-1 which supports their AWS and 700MHz LTE, and the SQN100-3 which supports their 2600MHz LTE. Right now the 700MHz LTE is only available in one tiny area of Toronto, but it will be in more areas in the future.

The Z30 STA100-5 is probably the best one for Rogers compatibility. It doesn't support the 700MHz LTE, but it supports the other two. That means the best coverage (AWS LTE) and the best speeds (2600MHz LTE). Though in a year or two the 700MHz LTE will probably have the best coverage.

Bell has the same bands as Rogers, while Telus has AWS and future 700MHz but no 2600MHz.

raino

The STL100-3 may have LTE band 4 in it, but Verizon will not allow you to bring that model on to its network (they're under no compulsion to, unlike with band 13 devices.) And there aren't any roaming agreements either that would allow an AT&T user to jump on Verizon's band 4 network if AT&T coverage is lacking.

taylortbb

Of course. It wouldn't work for voice or SMS anyways as the STL100-3 doesn't have CDMA support. The point was that support for Verizon AWS LTE is not a fundamental limitation of the Z10 hardware as other versions support it. It's just a feature that was omitted from the Verizon edition of the Z10.

BerryRipe

Wow! I think I am noticing faster Internet speeds! Awesome stuff!

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Christophe Piquemal

Well, if your operator just give you the full actual LTE, you have 150 Mbps; it's enough for anything you could need. Now, that's only marketing.

avnish_gajjar

I am waiting for Android keyboard apps be able to use easily across all BB apps. They are going to improve android app integration on 10.3. I hope they have this feature also.

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KiLuMaNaTi

There isn't a keyboard on android that works as well as the one you have anyway. I hope they focus on getting more of the apps to run smoother first.

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cletis

Your opinion (on this off-topic issue) is different than mine. How odd.

DocDRM

you appear to be lost. may I direct you to the search feature in the forums?

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lady of the lake

I can't believe I actually live in the right place, sporting the right phone and on the right carrier. What can I say but , "Right on Verizon! "

My bitchin' Z30 BlackBerry

FrankDLR1972

Damn, I'm on a Z10. Waiting on Windermere!

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ARWestenberger

It should get faster either way. Moving all those devices to the new spectrum will free up space for those of us stuck on the 700 spectrum.

Z10

ARWestenberger

The Z10 showed up on the list for me...at least on the link provided...

Z10

jonp

Yes; it does say z10 if you follow the link

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ARWestenberger

I wonder what that means... I remember reading about XLTE on Business insider and it said no new radio was required if you already have LTE through Verizon... maybe I read it wrong..

Z10

ARWestenberger

According to Verizon's own list the Z10 is compatible, my phone seems a bit faster, but it may be a placebo. I am in New Haven County where it should have been activated.

Z10

raino

That's weird. The Z10 doesn't have LTE band 4. If you go to Verizon's Z10 page (http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/device/smartphone/blackberry-z10) it does not say "XLTE Ready"--which it does for the Z30 and the Q10 (just change the z10 to z30 or q10 in the URL.)

DoryGuy

I just checked and only the Z30 and Q10 now show as XLTE enabled.

tmurphx5

I am in Boston and picking up 4GLTE running a Z30. Should I see 4XLTE?

Z30 on Verizon running 10.2. 1.2126

bbdodgersdude

No you will not see 4GXLTE still will be 4GLTE

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SO_Davis

So what's the difference between the LTE and XLTE and would the XLTE be coming to Canada is there is a difference.

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raino

Nothing. It's a marketing gimmick. You guys already have XLTE and have had it for a while. Robellus all have band 4 LTE (in addition to Robell also having band 8 and I believe band 17 LTE.)

Paul Callahan

I wouldn't switch back to Verizon.. No way no how

Q10 on T-Mobile

Gees97

Why? Too expensive for your budget? Best American carrier. So you'd be a fool not to

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beantownwindsorite

Well that's pretty subjective. Your reasons for supporting Verizon are likely different from his reasons for leaving. Smarten up.

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moyjoy

Wait.... you made a list for two devices? lol

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raino

At least it wasn't a #2: see #1 list :p

jope28

That was hilarious lol.

Q10SQN100-1/10.2.1.3175 CB10'n

LyBerry

I haven't noticed faster speeds yet. I'm on a Z30 in one of the listed cities. Glad to see Verizon has done this though. Maybe it won't be long before I notice a difference.

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unholyelite

Fuck yeah Z30 all the way!

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locke7

I knew holding out for the Q10 would have its perks!

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cletis

So is the phone expected to display "4XLTE" where it currently displays "4GLTE" either in the home screen's top banner or under Settings | Mobile Network? Or is this not really a new network technology, so it will continue to display the "G"?

raino

It's not new technology at all. Basically, Verizon just deployed their band 4 LTE network, and as a marketing/PR splash, are calling it XLTE. Yes, it will be faster than their band 13 network, but that's simply how it works--higher the frequency, faster the speeds (but poorer the penetration.) TMO and AT&T have had band 4 LTE networks for a while.

My guess is that your phone will continue to show LTE or 4GLTE or whatever Verizon displays an LTE connection as.

Omnitech

The difference is that T-Mobile has no lower-frequency spectrum, so their in-building/NLOS penetration is worse and they have to deploy more cell sites for the same coverage area.

Verizon has been getting dinged lately by test reports finding that their competitors have better peak speeds (if not coverage), and that struck a blow at their conventional strength.

So in congested urban areas in particular, AWS spectrum is a win, and it should free up capacity on the existing band 17 (700Mhz) network, so even people without AWS-compatible devices may see an improvement as the 700Mhz network gets unloaded a bit.

raino

Right. Plus with band 13, you can only do 5x5 ,10x10 channel deployments, whereas with band 4 you can start at 5 and go all the way up to 20x20...which TMO calls wideband and has deployed in places like Dallas.

Ironically (if I read the information right,) Verizon owns more 1700 MHz licenses than TMO.

tliolos

Just ran a test on my Q10 - 23mbps

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BBriarrh3a

Where's the Blackberry Z10?

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raino

It doesn't have LTE band 4, which XLTE basically is.

Adam Fox2

I am happy even with 3g lol. I only use mobile web for email and Facebook.

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Stevebez

No, I wouldn't switch to Verizon even if everything was free.

Gees97

Why not? Welfare doesn't pay verizon bills?

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jamespaulmuir

Verizon Z30 in Columbus, OH just did speed test: 20 mbps down, 12 up

jamespaulmuir

Update:

Did the test again and got 49mbps!

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3511214060

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warmm

I was getting similar in Tampa, and today I am below a meg down/up!!! Pfft, VZ forgot to throttle!

GP540

Soooo xlte = sim roaming slot?

In squircle we trust.

raino

They already have had that, for a while. Even the Z10 and 9930--two BBs that can't do "XLTE" have a SIM slot.

lynxs_claw

Simon, you need to update your article. According to BlackBerry specs for the z10 designed for Verizon.. it does support the XLTE (LTE 700 Mhz). Ref the link for proof:

http://us.blackberry.com/smartphones/blackberry-z10/specifications.html

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lynxs_claw

Don't understand why the link didn't work. Try this one:

http://us.blackberry.com/smartphones/blackberry-z10/specifications.html

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raino

XLTE is 1700 MHz (band 4,) not 700 MHz (band 13.) The Verizon Z10 therefore cannot do "XLTE" because it does not have that band 4.

lynxs_claw

My bad and thanks for correcting.. but the z10 specs do state that it can do the 1700 Mhz band 4 as well. Is it jus the model made available to Verizon cannot?

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raino

Correct. If you're looking only at the US Z10s, the Verizon Z10 doesn't have that band 4.

ndnoutlaw

Verizon in Bellingham Washington. Doesn't carry BlackBerry even though they have on display.... then talk down to me for having a blackberry

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raino

XLTE is just a marketing gimmick. It's band 4 LTE--which TMO and AT&T already have.

RP Singh

That network that just live in your area?

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coffee-turtle

It will take more than that for me to switch back to Big $ Red.

theone06

Aww no Z10. And I don't upgrade till next year.

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cia_man

Yeah z30 what else ;)

Zidentia

It says it supports it.

mitchy_mitch

It looks like the Q5 has 700 MHz too; if you have the SQR-100-1 according to GSM Arena.

http://m.gsmarena.com/blackberry_q5-5452.php

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raino

Not the same 700 MHz. It's the AT&T 700 (band 17,) not the Verizon 700 (band 13.)

jdr6000

Speed will also increase for Z10 users because of the capacity space that will be freed up due to the other phones jumping to the XLTE service.

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fentebaieuser

I think more members need to do speed tests on their phones to confirm if DL & upload speeds have increased and by how much. I'm using Mts All stream in Manitoba with LTE and get ting 5 Mbps download and almost 5 Mbps upload. So what is the comparison with the new XLTE? Let us know people!

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fentebaieuser

I'm using STL 100-3 Z 10 with MTS.

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fentebaieuser

Okay that's weird, just did a second test and this time it showed download was 23 Mbps and upload was 8 Mbps. Why the inaccuracies?

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ojaninoa10304

Q10 here. I have not checked yet, but I'm with Verizon and nothing is better than BlackBerry. You guys rock and I'm happy that verizon has put this out there.

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