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Posted by Snypa Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

Thank You Crackberry !

 
 
Posted by BerryGuy25 Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

It's like a dream come true to hear that they're trying to kill fragmentation with their phone OS. I really hope they do it.

Also, they need to get those 2011 phones out asap. If they don't announce and launch at BB World in May, they will have issues for the rest of the year....

 
 
Posted by Culex316 Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

It's about time we got a new operating system (QNX), all the current BB OS iterations (OS4.7, OS5, OS6 etc) are just a new face on the same old OS core, lipstick on a pig if you will, although I will admit I like OS6 a lot and is enough to hold me over until these QNX phones are finally released to the public.

 
 
Posted by Kiddo2050 Thursday, Mar 31, 2011 421 days ago

This is conventional wisdom, and I don't disagree that they need a news OS, but recall that the current OS has true multitasking where as even newer competing OSes don't, so the pig metaphor is over done and is coming from people that don't even understand the BB OS.

I recall so called knowledgeable reporters asking Mike L when BBerries would get multi-tasking (after Apple came out with fake multi-tasking). Answer: we've had it from day 1.

 
 
Posted by josh05 Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

Looks like Rim has a bright future in their smartphone markets once this hybridized software is implemented.

 
 
Posted by 3Dee Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

Interesting,,, sounds as though 6.1 could be an interesting evolution above and beyond what we've heard already. Would be nice to see it running on some new phones soon (see: Bold, Touch)!

 
 
Posted by Alsaad Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

I don't get this part: OS 6.1 is 10 years old?

 
 
Posted by leafs123 Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

I guess that includes the fact that it still has components from OS's 4-6.

 
 
Posted by mdjones21 Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

it means that all of the Os's are fundamentally the same; have the same core or whatever.

 
 
Posted by ttrreevvoonn Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

I think that's refering to the core of os 6.1, that it has been the core os for the past 10 years and every new os4, os5, os6 , etc were just improvemts upon this core os and now they are going to move to a QNX core os beginning with Highlander aka os 7. I can't wait till 2012 for the new blackberry devices that's when I'm due for an upgrade from verizon. Hopefully they are out by june of 2012 so I can take advantage of verizons customer only annual sale (discount), that's how I got my new bold 9650 in 2010 for only $50, used my upgrade and their customer only discount and I couldn't be more happy with my first smartphone and since verizon no longer has the every 2 new discount I'm going to use my last one wisely.

 
 
Posted by NightSniper Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

"RIM is still in the "early stages" of OS 7 with a target of 2012"

Oh my!

2012?
seriously RIM? Don't you feel you're lagging behind the entire world?
Don't you see how quick people function around you?
Don't you see how quick Samsung develop? Or Google's Android?

I can't wait for you, RIM, any longer.

 
 
Posted by Drew Oswalt Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

Bye.

 
 
Posted by quellerie Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

So long! Don't let the door hit you on your way out :)

 
 
Posted by Jake Storm Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

Wow, we'll really miss you here. Thanks taking the time to let us know that you are leaving, I don't know what I would have done without that valuable information. LOL!

Enjoy your Samsung Android.

 
 
Posted by pattste Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

I'm usually a RIM supporter but it's difficult not to side with it's critics here. This is taking entirely too long. When did they buy QNX and why are they still in the early stages of OS7? It's not like they figured just yesterday that it would end up on the phones. Plus OS6.1 is taking a long time because of miscommunications in the team? Is that R&D at RIM run by a bunch of amateur hacks? Weren't we told QNX was the supremely portable OS used to run everything from cars to the space shuttle and toasters and yet it's going to take one more year to get it to run on smartphones the company builds just for it? Are these guys for real?

 
 
Posted by Drew Oswalt Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

google bought Android, Inc. in 2005. It wasn't officially released until 2008. Do you think a tech product can be made as fast as you nuking your can of hormel chili for dinner?

 
 
Posted by zensen Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

exactly!

I straight port of the tablet OS to a blackberry phone isn't acceptable so Im glad they'll be a combining it but unlike some of you, I don't mind os 6, it just needs a bit more grunt which 6.1 will have especially in the UI and graphical end (but is anyone going to bother porting stuff over with QNX tapping on its shoulder?). I'll be pleasantly surprised if OS 6 back-end allowed more than just java apps and broaden their horizon that QNX has done.

 
 
Posted by jamesd98ca Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

Yep -- in actuality RIM will be able to pull off a new OS FASTER than anyone else has been able to get . The legacy stuff is some serious baggage -- Apple iOS had nothing to lose, and Android was even easier, and it STILL took years for them to make it to market. RIM is transitioning from legacy to next-gen hardware and software WHILE trying to maintain market feasibility. It's doing a very good job at it (record sales and revenues, AGAIN), given the competitors have it so easy (being the new kid on the block is always easy).

 
 
Posted by zensen Thursday, Mar 31, 2011 421 days ago

true, Rim have been in the mobile business and considering the hardware they use, they have a very optimised OS unlike the very hungry android - problem with rim is that they stood by watching the rest walk by whilst they carried the baggage but at least they're "spring cleaning".

 
 
Posted by feldmen01 Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

They had also mentioned that they don't want to lose any of the features that consumers like about the old OS. I can only imagine the meticulous work that must be done to combine these two operating systems together... It's like taking a piece of art, un-weaving the threads and sewing it seamlessly into another work of art.

2012 seems pretty reasonable to me and it gives me something to be excited about.

 
 
Posted by Kiddo2050 Thursday, Mar 31, 2011 421 days ago

I think this part may be an error. As long as the hardware keyboards are great and email is secure it's a blackberry. The fact that so many people are switching should be telling RIM people really don't value a lot of features RIM thinks is so precious.

I say RIM should go the disruptive route, ditch everything except the above two features and give us a phone with WOW! [In box integration is also good, they do that better than others I hear, better than Apple I know].

 
 
Posted by gregs87 Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

Well, I am just ready for the new phones, not the next new phones. I am still rocking a Storm 1 ... through me a bone already

 
 
Posted by Bob_B Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

Blah blah Blah......a little more info then normal, but same ol' BS. How is everyone else making faster phone, yet RIM is still lagging behind? I understand getting things correct and taking your time to perfect things, BUT DAMN.

 
 
Posted by mckillio Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

They have faster hardware.

 
 
Posted by Kiddo2050 Thursday, Mar 31, 2011 421 days ago

Right, but why? To me OS 6 is already pretty good. The only ting that bothers me is lagging sometimes, I might be wrong, but I tink a big cause of that was the slow chip they put in the torch, why did they do that?

 
 
Posted by mckillio Thursday, Mar 31, 2011 421 days ago

THe processor in the Torch is the same as the one in the 9700, which is the same as the 9000 had. RIM has said they're on 3 year cycles, so that's my guess. That would give them a pretty big discount on those chips.

 
 
Posted by drethos Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

Hmmm this might be interesting. But I still hope all the "new " phones that come out have a purely new qnx os. I kinda think rim is getting the rep microsoft has with windows and apple has with every product since touch that its nothing more then a refresh at best. I really like the look of qnx, I just hope its like honeycomb for android. You know new snappy but hopefully without the fun/annoying glitches.

 
 
Posted by mckillio Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

The new phones will not come with QNX, they'll have 6.1. Hopefully they will be able to support OS7/QNX when it comes out though, I imagine the top tier ones will.

 
 
Posted by Paulzmbie Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

RIM sucks

 
 
Posted by willm Thursday, Mar 31, 2011 421 days ago

If that's the most intelligent thing you have to say, please leave.

 
 
Posted by dodger_moore Thursday, Mar 31, 2011 421 days ago

Go easy on him, it might well be the most intelligent thing he has to say :)

 
 
Posted by narci Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

What RIM needs to do is stop updating OS5. It's pretty mature now.

Cut down on OS6 support and focus on new and better things.

 
 
Posted by Jake Storm Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

I think this is great news.
2012 is only 9 months away. Think of it as a natural gestation period, but at the end we'll have a bouncing baby OS7.

 
 
Posted by br14 Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

RIM's OS is fine. It's the UI (User Interface) you don't like.

The only reason to change the OS is to get the RTOS features of QNX. Which admittedly will make a difference performance wise.

But the UI should have been overhauled as soon as the iPhone showed what could be achieved.

 
 
Posted by jonp Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

I hope that is January 2012 when they say 2012

 
 
Posted by con4n007 Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

I do hope so but OS6 didn't come out on january :(
So prolly expect the same month as OS6 release date

 
 
Posted by tkwolf Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

BRING ON THE OS 6.1 AND OS 7 BABEHHHH

 
 
Posted by 19GhostRider71 Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

My contract with my torch will be up in 2012. I like OS6 vs the OS4.7 I had on a curve. I can't wait to see how powerful the phones can be with QNX OS on them. This is key for RIM to gain ground and take some back from the competition. Either that and everyone will be going to DROIDS.

 
 
Posted by chrismage Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

Looking forward to OS 6.1 and OS 7 looks even better. Can't wait for 2012!

 
 
Posted by SharpieFiend Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

I guess what this means for me is I shouldn't be afraid to replace my 9700 in July when the new phones come out because it will be July 2012 when the QNX phones hit.

 
 
Posted by BluCheze Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

"One of the key reasons OS 6.1 is falling behind schedule is miscommunication between teams in the critical path of the project"

Sounds like they need to get their sh1t together.

 
 
Posted by JasonM. Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 422 days ago

Seriously... It took them 'til the polishing stages of 6.1 to realize that they have communication issues? This has been the thesis of their development cycle since 4.7. I really hope the issues they're finding now are ones that slipped through the cracks back in the day. I'm confused that this sleeping giant is so inept.

 
 
Posted by taesrim Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011 421 days ago

My last name is RIM.

 
 
Posted by willm Thursday, Mar 31, 2011 421 days ago

"There can be only One."
I want to see a playbook cut off the top of a Bold and eat it's heart!

 
 
Posted by crackm8701 Thursday, Mar 31, 2011 421 days ago

i really hope that the NEW BLACKBERRIES DOESN'T ONLY COME WITH OS 6.1 I HOPE THEY ARE 4G'S TOOO!!!!!!!! that would be soooo awesome if there are.........

 
 
Posted by Gamesdmc3 Thursday, Mar 31, 2011 421 days ago

2012 DEC 21st IS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD,DEC 21st IS A PAGAN WORSHIP DAY,ITS THE DAY OF THE YEAR THAT THE SUN STAYS IN THE SKY THE LONGEST, LUCiFER MEANS "light-bearer",EVER HEARED THE SONG BY KANYE WEST,AND IN THE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CORES HE SAYS ( LUCiFER SUN OF THE MORNING ) SO PUT 2 AND 2 TOGETHER

THE WORLD IS NOT GOING TO END ON A PAGAN WORSHIP DAY,AND GOD SAYS IN THE BIBLE THAT WHEN HE COMES,HE WILL COME LIKE A THIEF IN THE NIGHT,WHICH MEANS THAT KNOW ONE WILL KNOW WHEN HE'S COMING,SO NO MAN CAN PREDICT IT,LOOK AROUD AND DO SOME RESEARCH,THE USA IS RAN BY DEVIL WORSHIPERS,YOU CAN START BY RESEARCHING THE illuminati

 
 
Posted by NSheld Thursday, Mar 31, 2011 421 days ago

Are you alright?

 
 
Posted by ljcn Thursday, Mar 31, 2011 421 days ago

When BlackBerry forums are overrun by religious maniacs using permanent Caps Lock it's time to turn off the computer and go for a long walk.

 
 
Posted by PostMortem Thursday, Mar 31, 2011 421 days ago

He's got a point, most professed Christians don't really know what the Bible teaches and even celebrate Pagan holidays and rituals.
He's right about what the Bible teaches about the end of this system, which is not the same as the end of the world.
The rest, I'm not so sure about... Not that that's a reason to dismiss it IMO.

Can't wait to hear some official news from RIM about their OS 6.1 and this years hardware.

 
 
Posted by datta72 Thursday, Mar 31, 2011 421 days ago

I hate when fools post comments.........It's a Jay-Z song NOT Kayne. Jackass

 
 
Posted by jasonvw Thursday, Mar 31, 2011 421 days ago

I really want to see what 6.1 is all about. Everything coming out is saying its a major upgrade. Heres hoping current devices will be able to use it. Would be horrible if the 9780 and 9800 do not get the upgrade.

 
 
Posted by Kiddo2050 Thursday, Mar 31, 2011 421 days ago

The only real complaints about the Torch were lag and, maybe, lack of graphical wow factor/overall consistency in menus. The new phones will have faster chips and seems like graphical pop (hopefully from TAT). This should get them back on track. Seriously I think OS6 has the best homescreen for getting shit done than any phone out there.

They are right to whip the troops up, they are right that delays are unacceptable, I just hope they throw all the resources at it that they need to to get the job done. Sometimes workers do need a wake up call, but it could also be they lack the people they need to get the job done.

 
 
Posted by lnichols Thursday, Mar 31, 2011 421 days ago

When you look at everything recent from RIM, from Mike L's double talking to the press, no one outside of Crackberry knowing what the Playbook does or doesn't do, and now the CTO saying that they are behind because of internal communications issues between development team, the one clear thing is a failure at many levels of management within RIM to focus the company and the message properly. To many co-Whatevers in the org chart IMHO.

I'm also concerned that they will weaken the benifits of the Tablets OS by trying to meld it with "10 year old" BBOS.

 
 
Posted by mio_BB Thursday, Mar 31, 2011 421 days ago

While the core BBOS incl. 6.1 might be carrying a lot of bagage it seems that on the hardware front things are really stepping up with the 2011 models. And really, BBOS does a really nice job in the core functions, as I see it iOS and Android are only now catching up in areas of mail and general PIM management.

I agree that the wow effect, media handling and browsing have been lagging on BB, but at least they baked the cake before putting the frosting on it ;)

Also iOS is at a challenging place. Their OS seems to be falling behind as well as 3 was just a little more of 2 and 4 a little more of 3, only it is helped by apps to an extend BBOS can only dream of (but I think BB will get there too)

There are core areas where BB excel. Mail/PIM infrastructure this strong in a world that goes to the cloud along with great battery life due to good utilization of the processor are just some of the features that would shine even brighter with a fresh OS like we can hope for in OS7.

by the way I just bought myself an iPad2, so I'm not just relentlessly defending RIM, I just feel the BB is the best smartphone (BES) and iPad is the best Pad (apps galore) for me :)

 
 
Posted by DustBow Thursday, Mar 31, 2011 421 days ago

One OS to rule them all.... :)