not november 3rd or 11th as i had been hoping, but at least there is finally a date mentioned by Tmobile. time to enjoy my last few weeks with my 9700 before it gets relegated to being a back-up phone!

:D Can't wait

not november 3rd or 11th as i had been hoping, but at least there is finally a date mentioned by Tmobile. time to enjoy my last few weeks with my 9700 before it gets relegated to being a back-up phone!

Hopefully this means Verizon will get their head out of their @$$ and release OS6 on the 9650 and 9330.

Ohhhh baby. About time. All black everything. Nice. :)

I think they are doing a "quiet release" with this device, not so much of a "new product" release because it is after all a "better" version of the 9700. We might just walk into T-Mobile and just see "BlackBerry 9780" rather than "BlackBerry 9700" up on display. I still think T-Mobile has plans to release/add a new BlackBerry to their product line.

Piano Style qwerty :D

A quiet release would make a lot of sense. Why market a product that's virtually identical to an existing product?

This will definitely not make me change my mind and come back to Blackberry. Having 512 MB Of RAM and OS6 isn't enough. My retired 9700 will stay just that... Retired!!

I really don't see all the hype over the Bold9780, I for one belive that all T-mobile blackberry user's wants the 9800, now don't get me wrong I love my 9700, but its not fair that only AT&T have it, I'm not gonna buy the 9780. I will wait for the 9800 or something better

No way changing 9700 just for the new OS6!

Hope it's for real this time

I'm really to hear that it's being released for T-mobile, not happy about the date though but still at least its not too far away.

It's about time... i can't wait for it to be out... Is there any way to pre-order???

I was just at the T-Mobile site, just seeing some phones, and I was wondering when will they release the 9780. So I go to CrackBerry.com, to see if they have any rumors. I go to the front page, and the 1st thing I see is "T-Mobile BlackBerry Bold 9780 arriving November 17th" I <3 CrackBerry :D

I was just at the T-Mobile site, just seeing some phones, and I was wondering when will they release the 9780. So I go to CrackBerry.com, to see if they have any rumors. I go to the front page, and the 1st thing I see is "T-Mobile BlackBerry Bold 9780 arriving November 17th" I <3 CrackBerry :D

There is the possibility that T-Mobile can get the 9800 though, since the Torch runs on GSM carrier networks. Hmmm....

That's got a nice ring to it...

FINALLY - Some type of backboard as to when its coming out.. Oh my gosh, I cannot wait. :) Wish the 2Y price was stated though..

I hope that in the next few days that Crackberry will announce that AT&T will have the 9780 as well. I worry that they will not because of the release being so close to when the Torch came out for them. I did however got to an AT&T store recently and did see that they had removed the 9700 from the floor. So hopefully that means that they will get the 9780.
Now, I am no expert when it comes to phones but I do realize that the OS 6 software will not come out till after the 9780 comes out and is two or three months in. Otherwise what would be the reason a customer would upgrade to this phone if the OS 6 were given to the 9700. I am in the market for the Torch or the 9780 as I am up for an upgrade with AT&T, what I am interested in to see is if the 9780 not having a touch screen will help the 624mhz processor have a faster and snappier feel running OS 6. The verdict remains out.

Is it just me, or does it seem as if Sprint is ALWAYS a day late and a dollar short on all of the really smokin' hot RIM devices? They're so dang interested in pushing those damn HTC pieces of crap, they've neglected the other consumer choices.

I was about to switch to verizon but this may get me to stay with T-mobile for another year. I did want a different Blackberry experience which may still get me to switch if the new storm drops for verizon but the news has been so sketchy that I may end up getting this and calling it a day.
But essentially this is just more of the same old blackberry, if it isn't broke don't fix it but idk I may need that storm for a spice-up

Or does this phone look exactly like the bold 9700? weird

now that this is coming out, it sort of sucks that we probably won't see any new blackberry on t-mobile for quite a while, since the curve 9300 came out in September and now the Bold in November. actually, other than the Storm 3, or whatever it was, we haven't seen a leaked photo of a prototype in a quite a while!

I've been patiently waiting for OS6 to leak but if it doesn't by the time this comes out, and it doesn't seem likely that it will, I might just give in and get it. I guess it'll be ncie to have the extra memory. Maybe i'll wait a week or so after.

Idk how I feel about this. If the date is right, it's basically the exact same time the 9700 was released last year, bc that's when I upgraded from the curve. I'm mad bc it looks like this 'refresh' will annihilate the 9700, but then again I want it. Lol. Doesn't t-mo honor upgrade discounts at least a year into your current contract? If so, I begrudgingly may considerrr...

Like the "murdered-out" all black look.
Was hoping for the 9800, however unlikely at this point. Hate, hate, hate exclusivity.
Purchase: TBD

I bet after the release of the 9780 that the os 6 upgrade for the 9700 will follow shortly after. I'd also wager that every carrier with the 9700 now will get the 9780. That's a great thing.

I was just a T-Mobile, and the 9700 is basically the exact same. They are both getting 6.0...so whats up?

shame that the phone is displaying OS5 tho

so,
it's confirmed that 9700 is not getting OS6 till every one forgets 9700.

thanks RIM for selling peanuts for price of gold.
no doubt your dumb decisions will make suffer your customers and you.

enjoy sitting in dark and day dreaming.

aren' t they going to release os 6 for 9700 ever?

I think the rollout of new handsets all but confirms that there will be no official OS6 release for 9650 and 9700 owners.

I dont know about anyone else, but this pretty much slices it for me. Once I'm eligible for an upgrade I'm ditching Blackberry. To promise OS6 to your customers and instead try to lure them into buying new devices is inexcusable.

Really, it wouldn't be a big deal if the new handsets were actual worthwhile upgrades (and not just some miniscule bump in memory).

This Bold 9780 is far superior to the 9700...I haven't been able to put it down...all of you that have reservations about this handset, you won't be dissapointed.

Blackberry OS 6 gives it the ultimate experience...

If you are wondering how i got one, I do work in the telecommunication industry and I have one sent to my company for evaluation.

You bet it is. These piece-meal upgrades are not about to get me off the couch and dump my 9700. What we really want to see is the addition of HSPA+ radios in these new TMO Blackberrys. Otherwise, all we can really count on is RIM losing even more market share with TMO. Would you really want to pay for last years sports car with white wall tires on 16" wheels? Wake up RIM, your not only losing the battle, your also losing the war!

I have to send my 9700 to be replaced, but if i hold out would they just send me a 9780 instead?

Orange UK have it shown up on their site as coming soon, which generally means its a couple of weeks away from release.

I realize that a lot of people feel like the 9780 isn't worth an upgrade, however since I'm currently using a 9000 and considering it is worth it to some. I didn't feel like the 9700 was worth an upgrade from the 9000, I still like the form factor of the 9000 better than the 9700/9780, but OS6 and more memory may win out for me.

Just giving another opinion. I wish AT&T would announce a date.

Come on Rim you are screwing the current 9700 owners and plus the specs of the 9780 are still behind the basic smart phone! Wake up and take care of your customers before they all go to android!

Most T-Mobile customers who are waiting for a new Blackberry on T-Mobile really don't care about the upgraded Bold. In case it's not obvious, they're waiting for the Torch 9800. I know several T-Mobile customers who have already switched from Blackberries to Android devices because they're tired of waiting. Sure they can get an unlocked AT&T Torch 9800 but that one won't support T-Mobile 3G bands. Hopefully RIM only gave AT&T a 3 month exclusive period on the Torch 9800 because then it will end in mid November and then RIM and T-Mobile can release a version that supports the T-Mobile 3G bands just in time for the holiday shopping season.

Is the $400 dealer cost the price of the device off contract? If so, I hope that the piece is similar on AT&T. I would definitely get it then.

it's no diff than my 9700. once i get 6.0 im fine. I won't get another berry until they drop one like the torch with 2 cameras on it like the punk iphone. design department needs to get on their job n stop making all the phones look alike to.

Thanks I thought this should have the tag-line refresh, I mean side by side if they are both suppose to get 6.0 whats the real diffrence, you know worth tossing away an upgrade.

Come on RIM

...the venomous responses that were raised when the rumors of the 9570 Storm "Odin refresh" came out several weeks ago, a device with literally the same upgrades to memory and camera. The differences in demeanor is hilarious. lol

I want a white BlackBerry 9780 for my birthday!

I just got my Blackberry Bold 9700 from Tmobile a couple weeks ago... And they're already refreshing it... :(

too little too late. My plan was over last month, I gave them till then to update 9700. I now have me 9800 on att and way more happy if 9780 was touch screen maybe I would get excited if i still had t mobile. But for all those that waited around for t-mobile finally, huh!

Can't wait until November....

Can I ask what a "Piano Style Keyboard" is specifically? Are 9700's also that style or has something changed?

I really want the 9780. But like many say it is a waste of an upgrade. I mean I have well over 25 apps running and like 5 themes installed on my 9700. and I still have between 90-95MBs left... So I Dont really need the extra memory and am completely fine with my current camera. So if I could just get OS6 already I think I can hold out another year for something better. (You know we are all waiting patiently for a QNX OS on a BB device, surely AT&T will get it first)

Do yall think if I "lose" my phone and pay the $150 to replace it, that they will give me a 9780. That would be sweet!

anybody that is not hyped up over the 9780 shud go hide under a rock.. i have the 9700 as well, but to have a better 9700 is awesome!!! more memory better camera with a completely OS on there.. its a dream come true..9780!!! im loving it

Is T-mobile going to get this in white? If not, I don't want any parts of it. But if it's white, ill upgrade from my white 9700

if BB6 doesnt come out for the 9700 by the new year, im using my upgrade!!!!

Do ya think we can return our 9700 to tmobile and get the 9780 as a replacement?

They are a horrible company and just plan stupid people working there. If they where smart they would come out with 0s6 for 9700 and make it run slower than hell so that more people would just upgrade to the 9780. I'm not really that big into my phone or any phone but just reading the comments makes me get into it. And the anticipation is driving me crazy!!!!. I'm just going to come out with my own phone company that is just a laptop with a phone built in to it and have everything. Put all these phone companies out of business. Ill call my wireless company "Go To Hell Wireless". Look for it in the future.

i love my Bold 9700 but i'm waiting for a newer device from T-Mobile that has OS 6. Key word- waiting. Why dont people understand that phone companies are in the business of making money? Dont you think that if you switched over to android they will still release a better version of your phone within a couple of months? RIM maks the best devices in my opinion and no matter what smarthone you get, there will be an updated version coming later, that doesnt mean they are screwing you. If you want to have the latest device or OS, go buy it, if not, then stay quiet and make a decision on when you will get it. You guys sound like freakin 4 year olds. "i want jimmy's toy his is better!" go take a nap.

I read in a blog post (can't recall where), that the Bold 9780 not only is double the memory of the Bold 9700 and a better cam, but that you can actually install apps on the SD Card ala Android. I think I did read it here on CrackBerry. Anyone else remember that?
Maybe it'll be worth it. To each their own. Too bad it isn't touchscreen too.....

Considering Virgin Mobile (Canada) was supposed to be the first one to release it and it's nowhere in sight at this point, I wouldn't get my hopes up at this point :-/

Hey Verizon did this same thing if anyone remembers! When the 9630 was having problems with there track pad they just replaced it with the 9650! And 9630 disappeared! If you had the 9630 and did a warranty exchange they would give you the new 9650! Hope T-Mobile does the same! I'm going to trade mine in as soon as they do!!

So I'll wait it out and get mines next year. I'm good with my 9700 and MY current OS hybrid, but i can't wait til January to have this baby in my hands. Until then, I'll just see my brother enjoy it.

No Torch for T-Mobile??

I have been with VZW for 6+ years. Well their Customer Service and Financial Serivces groups have ticked me off that I am going to T-Mo. It appears that for her needs(She has the 8330) its not worth it. I just did the Bold 9700 for a Penny on Amazon and my HTC HD 2 for $49.99.

I will admit the 9700 appears to be a nice phone. The track pad is sweet. The 5.0 OS will be an adjustment for her but wait until 6.0 arrives.

I want the Torch 9800 with T-Mobile!!!!!!! Where it is, please?

EDIT: Duplicate post

Don't you guys get it? The 9700 ain't getting OS6. The 9780 is a refresh to better hardware that will support OS6.

it is so funny how some of you are whining about how you want the torch 9800 on tmobile>>>>NEWSFLASH you will never see the torch on tmobile or any other us carrier it is a att exclusive and i ham happy to deliver this message on my TORCH 9800 now they might make other phones that sAY torch but you wont get the one i have HOLLABLACK

i will not upgrade to a "new" phone that looks like my old 9700 just for the OS 6 on it and a bigger RAM! I will patiently wait for OS 6 on 9700. It's just crazy to get tied to tmo for the next 2 years with exact same model of phone with just slight modifications on its OS and camera. Anyways, I really hope TMO works fast in releasing OS 6.0 for Bold 9700.

I say this because one, I'm a T-mobile BB sufferer (lol) and two, I'm still rocking my Curve 8320! So any upgrade at this point would be gravy. Sure I want a new phone and yes I love technology and gadgets. However, use technology as a tool! I still get my email and calls and still browse the web while standing in a line. And IT'S STILL A PHONE!
If RIM is getting on your nerves, speak with your dollar bills. Evidently, they are listening to their base, and it's not the readers of crackberry...it's the companies that use BB's (in my opinion of course). And when those companies start switching to something like an iphone, THEN they might get their "act" together.
Until then accept your spoonful of changes or move on. Just a thought.

If I didn't like my plan with t-mobile, I would have had a iphone by now. As long as I don't need to watch tv on my phone, I can be patient until something pique my interest (like the Torch!)

instead of going with the sprint Bold i am going to buy a cheap curve then wait for the new Bold to come out on Sprint...i really want a white one

instead of going with the sprint Bold i am going to buy a cheap curve then wait for the new Bold to come out on Sprint...i really want a white one

I'm not quite sure if OS 6.0 will be released for the 9700 any time soon, In the past when t-mobile blackberry has been revamped the older device is pulled off the shelf. T-mobile doesn't focus on releasing OS updates for devices that have been pulled off the shelf. I have a curve 8900 so upgrading to the Bold 9780 is an easy choice for me. If I owned the 9700 I would still upgrade to the 9780