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Posted by Brandon 8ch Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

I never realized how thin it was!

 
 
Posted by timerollson Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

That screen resolution... :(

 
 
Posted by BerryGuy25 Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

They could have made it at least 3.5 inch screen (it's 3.2 inches) and the screen resolution is only slightly bigger than my Bold 9000 that came out in 2008..... wtf man...

 
 
Posted by devildrifterX Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

Its using the exact same processor as the 9000 lol

Enjoy no OpenGL yet again /facepalm

 
 
Posted by FrankCM Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

I'm downloading the OS 6 simulator... I wanna try it!! :)

 
 
Posted by Brandon 8ch Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

Where is it?

 
 
Posted by FrankCM Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

on the BlackBerry.com site, usual page. Look for "BlackBerry simulator"!

 
 
Posted by footose Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

I don't see the simulator on the site for download.

http://na.blackberry.com/eng/developers/resources/simulators.jsp

 
 
Posted by FrankCM Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

from here:

http://www.blackberry.com/developers/downloads/simulators/index.shtml

click on download a bb simulator
On the following page is the first one.

 
 
Posted by nemoid Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

Bahahahaha...

same resolution as the Tour?

 
 
Posted by timerollson Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

Yeah... WTF RIM. Hopefully, they'll go all out on their Storm 3 in 2011.

I left BB for the iPhone but I'm not counting them out. It's hard to get excited for the 9800. I guess for people who are upgrading, this would be a cool device.

 
 
Posted by FrankCM Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

Actually they could be much better!!

 
 
Posted by BeRich Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

FINALLY!!

 
 
Posted by Booie2k1 Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

I'm not so sure its enough to bring me back from Android. I've wanted a phone with this form factor for a while now but I'm not sure OS6 is enough to drag me away from Android... will have to have a good play with this phone first!

 
 
Posted by ckeins Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

So we all wait for the Torch2 to come? ;-)

Despite the resolution it's a nice device. I hope it's coming to Vodafone Germany soon.

 
 
Posted by kirksucks Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

There won't be a torch2, they'll just update it and call it a Bold 9820 or something.

Verizon? stuck with my 9630 another year.

 
 
Posted by MondoB Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

Available on my birthday. Maybe it's a sign.

 
 
Posted by pharmacoholic Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

again....crappy processor (in what world is 624 MHz fast!)limited backwards compatibility (512 Mb cap)and small screen with crap resolution...RIM this is a joke

 
 
Posted by deRusett Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

The Problem RIM is facing right now is that Qualcomm (Maker of the snapdragon) has come out with a high Mhz processor, but RIM doesn't partner with Qualcomm they partner with Marvell, it could be the same case as intel vs AMD in the early 2000's when AMD actually had faster processors, with lower Mhz unfortunately I can't find technical specs about Qualcomm or Marvell to compare if that is the same case here or if RIM needs to drop Marvell and go to Qualcomm.

the screen is huge compared to any other keyboard blackberry, just because it isn't comparable to the largest of touchscreen only phones doesn't make it small, the resolution leaves something to be desired, but isn't a break point for me.

 
 
Posted by ritzcrakca Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

how much more reso do u need?? this phone is gonna be siiick!!!

 
 
Posted by rpanicke Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

Some pretty shitty tech specs for RIM's new contender. The hardware is already just about obsolete...At this rate, I doubt I'll be getting another BB after the contract on my laggy 9700 is up

 
 
Posted by allargon Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

That hardware is like that of a low-end Android. Where's the GHz proc? Where's the widescreen or 720p screen? They caught up to early 2009. But, it's late 2010. Sigh.

The price is a bit high, too. It should be $100-150 on contract.

 
 
Posted by Dragondima Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

The Bold and Bold 9700 sold for 199.99. Even today that's their price. So it would only make sense to have it at the same price.

 
 
Posted by mckillio Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

720p screen? The iphone 4 has the highest res screen and it's not even 720p. I agree it should be a little bit better but damn, how close are you to your screen, 2 inches?

 
 
Posted by allargon Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

I want RIM to leapfrog the Androids and iPhones not catch up to them.

 
 
Posted by mckillio Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

Touche.

 
 
Posted by mckillio Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

Touche. But as a company, I'm sure their margins are a lot better because they don't leap frog the competition.

 
 
Posted by mckillio Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

Touche. But as a company, I'm sure their margins are a lot better because they don't leap frog the competition.

 
 
Posted by Agent00J Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

The tech is what I'd expect from RIM. So no surprises there. What really bothers me is the keypad. It's hard to judge based off images alone, but it looks tiny and uncomfortable - much like the 9700.

Time will tell, but so far I'm still on track to jump ship by year's end and join the Droid family.

 
 
Posted by deRusett Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

My only complaint with this device thus far is the battery size

I question the numbers posted always as especially on touch screen devices they tend to be misleading,
Why a 1300mAhr? not a 1500? or 2300?

I think this will be a phone that will NEED the extended battery looks so pretty I wouldn't want to put it down!

 
 
Posted by mckillio Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

The battery life seems pretty good though. A denser battery would have weighed more and it already weighs more than the Storm.

 
 
Posted by dr_w Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

No HD recording, no HDMI out, no 4G capability (although early), processor is fairly small, Ram is 512 (c'mon thats an inch from whats out now), no wifi hotspot like the android, etc...

 
 
Posted by timerollson Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

$199.99 for a two-year contract? I think they're playing themselves with this one. They should at the max charge $149.99 for this. I don't think the price is justified for this device.

If I was a new customer choosing among high-end smart phones (and I'm assuming RIM is marketing this as their flagship for the moment), I don't think I'd want to pay that much for the Torch.

 
 
Posted by NalaniNoe Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

as an avid BB user, I cannot wait until the 9800 comes out. I have already called my ATT dealer and asked them to order me as I am going to get mine as soon as it comes in. As for those who love the IPHONES, why hate on the BBs? Continue to use the IPHONE and love it, and apparently wish you had a BB like the rest of us. It seems to me, that IPHONE users don't have enought "smarts" to use BBs.

 
 
Posted by francolasalsa Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

So this looks like it could kill the 3GS but nowhere close to the iPhone 4 . I left BB for iland after 4 years and 4 blackberries because it had become stale and obviously fallen behind the innovation curve. This does look promising but I've been burned by the storm early adoptee curve and don't think I'll be going down that route. I read an article a fewndays ago that said 50% of BB users would jump ship. They should do a study about how much would come back because judging by the comments quite a few former users have a huge soft spot in their heart for RIM ( like myself) that want them to succeed and come out with a killer phone so we can come back . This should stop/slow the bleeding but they still need to kick it up a few notches to take back market share. People are dead on in saying these specs are so 2009, for a device that needs to compete for the next 6 months to anyear these specs will be so it's not funny. Let's hope the software is a home run !

 
 
Posted by LayzieBone075 Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

That's a lot...well anyways, any news on if T-Mobile is getting this phone? Haha

 
 
Posted by beri Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

"Compatibility with Existing BlackBerry Smartphones
BlackBerry 6 will debut on the new BlackBerry® Torch™ smartphone (announced today) available from AT&T on August 12 and it is also designed to run on select BlackBerry smartphones already in market. Subject to carrier certifications in the months ahead, the new OS is expected to be available for the BlackBerry® Bold™ 9700, BlackBerry® Bold™ 9650 and BlackBerry® Pearl™ 3G, as well as future BlackBerry smartphones."

 
 
Posted by mckillio Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

4GB built in memory, as in 4GB's for apps and such? Very impressed if so not to mention the 4GB microSD card that's included.

 
 
Posted by allargon Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

I doubt it. I think that's 4GB for multimedia. In fact it's mentioned in the release. 4GB for apps would be killer. It would be nice if OS6 extended application memory past the 512MB system memory. A 16GB SD card would end all my headaches.

 
 
Posted by mckillio Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

Crap. I have a 8900 and 256mb with over a dozen apps and I still have 105mb free, so 512mb is more than fine for me.

 
 
Posted by LCW Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

Are they forcing folks with unlimited data plans already onto the capped data plans? I.e. let's say you're on an iphone unlimited data plan right now, and you switch to a 9800, are you forced onto the 200MB or 2GB data plans? Or can you grand-father in the unlimited plan?

 
 
Posted by LCW Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

PS - Will AT&T stores have them on display already so we can actually play with it? Or will it be under glass? Hard to tell from the monolith pictures...

 
 
Posted by collide.six Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

Not only is this device under whelming so is RIM's App world. So I guess there perfectly mateched. Even if the Torch had the hardware to compete with todays competion I wouldn't want because of the lack of compelling apps.

 
 
Posted by AndresMor Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

I'm not entirely sure if likes me. Just if i was more careful

 
 
Posted by AndresMor Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

Or, i'm bitterly jealous b/c don't have a penny to buy me one

 
 
Posted by puguasoft Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

Everything looks great to me EXCEPT:

- 3.2” HVGA+ touch screen (480x360)

That's less then an inch (diagonal) improvement over the Bold 9700, and the resolution is the same! WTF?! Oh, and it's still less than the new Android devices sporting AMOLED, Super AMOLED, Super LCD, etc hi-res screens. RIM failed on this part, unfortunately.

 
 
Posted by HTC_Droid_EvO Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 661 days ago

They earned this nickname for a reason my friend :)

 
 
Posted by blkbryadict Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 660 days ago

Screw AT&T, what about T-MO?

 
 
Posted by jm357 Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 660 days ago

When will the torch 9800 come to sprint??? I would love to get one! Right now i'm running the 8530 curve. Im mad that the o6 will not be running on the curve! :-(