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Storm 9520 And 3G Pearl 8200 Flip Heading To Rogers!

by Bla1ze

on 25 Dec 2008 04:27 AM

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Storm 9520 And 3G Pearl 8200 Flip Heading To Rogers!

Well isn't this a nice little piece of information to wake up to on Christmas morning. Seems that while we were all sleeping, Clearskies08 was leaving us all a nice present from our friendly neighborhood Rogers/Fido reps upcoming handset presentation. That's right folks, what you are seeing above is a pic of the 9520 Storm which will soon be available on Rogers in Canada. This device will have 3G HSPA bands for North America and comes with WiFi built into it.

Not only was the 9520 Storm introduced, but the 8200 was as well, the 8200 being a 3G HSDPA Pearl Flip with WiFi and GPS built in AND a second video camera for video calling!!!!!!

For more information on the coming devices as well as Fido's new BlackBerry offerings hit the jump.

Now looking at the picture above and assuming prices don't change which with Rogers they often do, it seems like the Storm 9520 will be on par with Verizon's offerings of the device but lower then Telus or Bell's price points (rebates pending of course).

Next on the list from the presentation, the 8200 Pearl Flip, this time around getting a healthy dose of 3G HSDPA and adding GPS to the available features on top of the WiFi, which was left out of the 8220 version, no pricing was listed for this device but I'm sure we can expect it to fall in line with the original 8220. Also listed on the spec sheet is a secondary camera for video calling!

Great news for all you Fido subscribers out there as well, ever since Fido has gone through its recent rebranding there has been rumors of them bringing BlackBerry devices back into the mix. I guess you could consider the above picture a confirmation of that. With the 82XX (not sure which version) and the 8110 as well as the new Curve 8900 all set to be launched between February and April '09.

There ya have it folks, looks like 2009 is already off to a great start for Rogers and Fido customers, now any guesses on how long it will take AT&T to catch up this time?

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113 Comments

Posted by SurrealCivic Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

MERRY CHRISTMAS! 9520!!! BOOOYAAA!!

Posted by Kevin Michaluk Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

This is pretty interesting stuff....

a) Funny timing. Just two nights ago when recording the second Round Robin Roundtable podcast I was asked about the the Storm and its lack of WiFi and said that there were definitely Storms "out there" running WiFi. This hardware has been around for a while now - even predating the launch of the Storm had talk to some testers both domestically and abroad who were running WiFi Storms.

BUT what's really interesting here is what Jim Balsillie talked about on RIM's Q3 investor call last week. All the analysts on the line were wanting to know if/when other carriers would get the Storm, but Jim was pretty clear that there was "depth" to the Verizon/Vodafone "hero" plan. Obviously it's not that deep or else there are conventions in place that allow RIM to sell the device to other non-compete carriers or there's more to this agreement than is yet really known.

b) A 3G Pearl flip?! Now that is a surprise. Wasn't expecting that. A CDMA Pearl Flip - yup... thinking that'll be the 8230. But 8200 3G Pearl Flip..very cool. Wonder what processor it'll be running?! Maybe the 528? Current processor is pretty slow in it, but with 528MHZ and 3G that phone just got wayyyy better. AND VIDEO CALLING ON A BLACKBERRY?!?!?! Let's hope this comes to more BlackBerrys!

Bring it on Rogers! Merry Christmas!!

Posted by Crucial_Xtreme Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

I have to say, I said this was coming for about 6 months now. ;)

Posted by Kevin Michaluk Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

True That CX, True That!

Posted by sheesh Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

WTF??? why would the do this?? I was looking forward totelus crushing rogers and the iphone

Posted by Crucial_Xtreme Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

See that's where the difference is. RIM is concerned with making money, they don't care about the carrier wars.

Posted by SurrealCivic Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

The 9520 is going to be a nice device. The touchscreen issues have been resolved, 3G HSPA, WiFi all on Rogers' network. I think this once again proves that the BlackBerry line up at Rogers is the most complete BlackBerry line up of any carrier out there.

RIM has had so much trouble with Verizon and AT&T. Starting with AT&Ts delay of the Bold which affected RIMs Q2 Revenues and Q3 Revenues. Verizon's software issues with the Storm, screen problems, etc. Despite these delays, RIM was still able to beat expectations for Q3.

RIM knows that Rogers is a GOLD mine for them. Now to get a proper launch on AT&T as well, and we should have a nice upswing in RIM revenues, and hence their stock.

This is great news for RIM and Rogers!

Posted by Anonymous Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Really brilliant comment. I wasn't aware that AT&T delaying the Bold because of software issues was AT&T's fault, I thought it was because AT&T wanted a good device that wasn't going to be returned left and right like the Storm. And as far as the software of the Storm, I wasn't aware that Verizon was the one writing the Blackberry OS that caused all the issues with the touch screen not working. You must know something we don't. So AT&T delays phones for no reason and Verizon Wireless writes the Blackberry OS... Where does RIM come into the picture? Just a straight hardware manufacturer?

Posted by SurrealCivic Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

I think you have to be made aware of RIM's carrier model.
The carriers own the software and release it to the public. Not RIM. It was Vodafone and Verizon's decision to release 4.7.0.65 and sell the Storm so early.

Posted by Anonymous Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Funny that you bash AT&T for delaying phones, now bashing Verizon and Vodafone for releasing a phone too early. Wow.

Posted by RobUM2011 Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

I thought that was funny too.

Release too late = Carriers fault for waiting so long for good OS

Release too soon = Carriers fault for NOT waiting for good OS

Make up your mind buddy.

Posted by ericsmcdonald Friday, Dec 26, 2008 1246 days ago

I was under the impression that AT&T delayed the Bold -- NOT because they wanted a stable OS -- but because the AT&T network needed to be updated in order to handle the security that the Bold uses.

In fact, if you go back in the forums here on Crackberry, you will see that AT&T's network was the reason for the delay.

If they had the opportunity, I'm SURE AT&T, crappy OS or not, would've launched the Bold to try to get as many customers onto the newest Blackberry before the Storm hit VZW.

Posted by Anonymous Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 1245 days ago

And have another iPhone fiasco on their hands? And I was under the impression that it was the software, because the iPhone started working a lot better after the OS was updated.... So I don't think it was AT&T's network, if it was, the updated OS wouldn't have changed anything... The same thing with the Bold, it was released with a newer/updated/better OS than the version released on Rogers... And it works great... And Kevin had issues with his Rogers Bold here in NY, but when he let Craig borrow his Bold, he even complained about it doing random crazyness, then I believe he said he updated to the newest OS, and it fixed a lot of the problems.... Was it a coincidence that AT&T fixed their network at the same time Craig updated the OS on the Bold and it started working a lot better? I could be mistaken, but I am almost 100% positive, but I deleted their podcast, and haven't had a chance to go back and find it.

Posted by blacktoothberry Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Where did you get your info on people returning Storms left and right .Verizon reports record sales of the Storm .

Posted by Anonymous Friday, Dec 26, 2008 1246 days ago

Sure they're reporting record sells, and I don't doubt it's accurate. But why would they report record returns or record exchanges? That would hurt their profitability. It would be like Verizon having a commercial saying they have the highest prices and the most dropped calls than any other network in the world, it may or may not be true ( more than likely not true ), but they wouldn't run a negative ad campaign against themselves.

Posted by Anonymous Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

I just returned a 3 day old Storm to Verizon because the touch screen was totally screwed up. They are a long way from getting the touch screen issues corrected. Even the Verizon Sales Rep told me that they are getting these things back like crazy because the screen functionality is so messed up.

What you are seeing from Rogers is what should have been the 1st Generation Storm.. but is now the 2nd Generation. That is the fastest leap from one generation of electronic devise to another that I have ever seen. All because they had to compete with Apple for the 2008 holiday season. What a dumb move. They have ticked off thousands of customers and driven many new customers to bring back their Storms, cancel their contracts and move over to other carriers. In my case, I literally stopped by AT&T on the way to the Verizon store, had my number ported over and picked up a new Bold. I then drove to Verizon, returned the Storm and cancelled my 3 day old contract. Their was a guy standing in front of me doing exactly the same thing. It is to bad that greed got in the way of truly developing the Storm and making it ready for market the way it should have been.

I know that Storm owners are on the defensive right now.. they got something that was sold way before it should have been.. has major issues and no one that owns one wants to admit to the extent these things are defective. I liken it to buying a Porsche and finding out it really isn't what it was cracked up to be... but who wants to admit that? One can only hope that RIM and Verizon will learn a lesson about greed and that in the end having truly satisfied end users is the key to making money.. not selling something long before it should have ever hit the market!

Posted by Vlad M. Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

I have the worst timing in the world it seems...
I just ordered my 9500 in Germany on the 22. December, which has NO WiFi ofc -.-
Now 3 days later they release a WiFi version...
It doesnt bother me to much. However I was just hoping the next improved model of the storm would appear at least 3 months from now. Needless to say Id like to have a 9520 instead of the 9500. Oh, and did I mention that I payed 299 euro!!! with a 2 year contract here in Germany.
Its just so frustrating to pay so much money and see a better and cheaper model being released 3 days after -.-

Posted by SurrealCivic Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

fyi, nothing has been released.

Posted by Vlad M. Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

true, its just an announcement. RIM is getting me heartache anyway. 2009 will be an interesting year :=)

Posted by Blackberrymood Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Hell yeah it will! Damn, even if we wait 2 months, there'll be a lot of interesting stuff out there!

Posted by briankeith513 Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Verizon's issues with the Storm? Did Verizon's network cause freezing, and rebooting and lag? Did Verizon cause problems with the Storm for Vodaphone too? Those are software issues. Those software issues should just be fixed by the time that the 9520 is released, since it will be released much later than the Vodaphone and verizon versions. The software is created by the manufacturer.

Posted by SurrealCivic Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

The software is created by the manufacturer, you are correct. However, the software is developed and tested alongside the carriers. And it is the carriers who eventually "own" the software and release it to the public. It is Vodafone and Verizon who released 4.7.0.65 and sold the Storm in early/mid November. RIM did not pressure them to do this.

Posted by Anonymous Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

No, RIM didn't pressure them to release it, but it's funny that you mock AT&T for delaying phones, and then you bash Verizon/Voda for releasing a phone that isn't ready for release. You are hilarious.

Posted by SurrealCivic Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

It's because they are completely different situations.
Rogers released the Bold on their network months before AT&T did. And the 3G network of Rogers and AT&T have the most similarities than any other networks. Why the delays on AT&Ts behalf? They've been testing this unit for almost two years now. It's because AT&T had problems with their 3G network, not only on the Bold but the iPhone as well.

Posted by Anonymous Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

If you ever listened to Kevin's podcast, he had a horrid time with his Rogers Bold on AT&T's network, and if I remember correctly having issues with the Bolds browser using wi-fi or 3G.... So, AT&T was trying to fix the issues before releasing it on their network. If it worked fine, they would have released it, but they worked diligently with RIM to update the OS to fix many of the issues, and boom, a great device launches.

On the other hand, RIM gives the Storm to Verizon for testing, Verizon is probably thinking they don't want to wait 6 months going back and forth with RIM to fix the issues, just release the phone, work with RIM to upgrade the OS later....

Obviously no one can win with you. If a company releases a phone early with bugs, you hate on them, if they release it late to fix bugs, you hate on them. Truely amazing.

Posted by scurvydlicious Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

If I remember correctly, Kevin had problems with 2 Bold's while in Canada and more issues when arriving to New York while on AT&T's network. I remember reading about him going back and forth between Rogers and RIM with the issues. So...to me it sounds like Rogers rushed the Bold, as Verizon rushed the Storm, and AT&T did good by waiting and fixing the problem before releasing it into the wild.

Posted by Jeeverz Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

I use to think the same way you did. Until I took my Bold down to the states late August- early September. My Bold worked fine on Rogers, but once i stepped into AT&T, my phone restarted like 5 times in a span of 2 hours. The phone choked and dropped calls. I never knew that the switch could make my phone restart. So in return, I do not believe that it was all RIM's fault. Verizon had to have played a pretty major part in its firmware development.

Posted by blacktoothberry Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Vodaphone owns majority stake in Verizon .More or less the same company

Posted by Anton Wahlman Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Verizon owns 55% of Verizon Wireless. Vodafone owns 45% of Verizon Wireless. Verizon Wireless is a joint venture.

Posted by gvegas864 Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

any chance of seeing this in the US?

Posted by Crucial_Xtreme Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Uh, No sir BK. Verizon and Vodafone both rushed the Storm out to market. Just look at the OS Verizon let the Storm ship with!!! That alone tells you they rushed it in time for Christmas shopping season.

Posted by Anonymous Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

I don't know if it was released for Christmas shopping or for Bold competition....Probably both? But it was definitely shipped prematurely.

Posted by Crucial_Xtreme Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

And yes Surreal, I agree 110%, Rogers does have the most complete lineup. And yes, revenues are definitely on the way up. :D

Posted by SurrealCivic Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

The problem is RIM's carrier model. Since it works with Rogers, it doesn't mean it will work with others.

Posted by Anonymous Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Now if only they release a 8900 Curve with 3G everything will be rosy.

Posted by afranio sa menezes Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

why the Vodafone rush for storm without WIFI???? and there is any chance to get storm 9520 in UK ? or unlocked ?

Posted by blacktoothberry Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Vodaphone and Verizon didn't want WiFi on the Storm it has nothing to do with RIM .This is the way they get you to pay for other sevices like tethering for $15.00 more

Posted by scurvydlicious Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Even if the phone had WI-FI you would still pay extra for tethering.... The Samsung Omnia has WI-FI, and you have to pay extra for tethering.

Posted by Anonymous Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 1245 days ago

I cannot wait until wi-fi hotspots are like they are in Japan, they're all paid services, so you have to pay to use them. Maybe then US people will stop crying about no wi-fi in their phones. It's a freakin' phone, get a life. "I have wi-fi at home I can use!" shut-up and use a computer.

Posted by Anonymous Tuesday, Jan 06, 2009 1235 days ago

It doesn't matter. I had a Nokia wifi tablet and barely used it because it survived on wifi. I need the network and (even out where I live in a rural area) Verizon works. That's where my iPod touch comes in. I'm a Blackberry fan but I predominantly use Mac products (except I LOATHE the iPhone) and so it's like having the best of both worlds! I have my Storm for calls, e-mails, etc. AND I USE IT'S BROWSER ALL THE TIME. I use my iPod touch's browser IF/WHEN I need it. This works for me. GET OVER THE 9530 NOT HAVING WIFI PEOPLE!

Posted by Jeeverz Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Best News Christmas Morning ... I am picking up that Storm WITH WiFi .. for sure !!! Until Pluto Comes out :P

Thanx for the update Kev. I saw this on twitter and was zomg wtf so had to get to a computer fast !! (CB does not work on my bold) :(

Posted by Anonymous Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

can't say why, but definately shinannigans

Posted by Anonymous Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Well the fact the other slides on HowardForums are filled with errors, and the fact that in these very slides, the 8110 is listed as a UMA compatible device, that really helps ME want to call shenanigans on this whole thing!

I like how no one noticed or pointed that out.

8110. Wifi. No.

Posted by matrix2004 Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Anonymous, you don't know what you're talking about. Many people have known there were some Storms with WI-FI in testing. Are you gonna tell me the At@t version of the Storm with WI-FI that's coming in 2009 is shennanigans too???????? Please.

Posted by Anonymous Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 1245 days ago

strange, i never seen a wifi storm, even though I did lay my hands on storms with other axed features :P SHENNANIGANS!

Posted by Crucial_Xtreme Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Show me where it says the 8110 has wifi. I havent seen that picture.

Posted by matrix2004 Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Merry Christmas. :)

Posted by Anonymous Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1246 days ago

Lol.

Do you see the picture with the Fido Blackberries? It says very CLEARLY "8110 for UNO". UNO is Fido's UMA service. If you don't know what UMA/UNO is, fair enough, but let's just say that it's number one prerequisite is WIFI.

So we have four scenarios.

1) The Wireless Purchasing Group for Rogers/Fido was/is coked out.

2) The PowerPoint creator was coked out.

3) RIM is somehow making a Wifi AND GPS enabled Pearl for Fido (highly unlikely, why not just go with an 8120, the UMA enabled Pearl?)

4) SHENANIGANS!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by David522 Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Uhh, I want my storm to have WIFI!!!

Posted by blacktoothberry Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

If people complain enough just maybe a second Gen Storm will have WiFi

Posted by Anonymous Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 1245 days ago

Why would you need wifi on the 2nd generation storm? by that time Verizon will be deploying their 4g LTE network. Wifi won't stand a chance against a 50+ mb/s download speed.

Posted by pltaylor Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

I think he's confusing UMA with UNO

Posted by pltaylor Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

UNO is what they call there UMA, Right?

Posted by Crucial_Xtreme Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

He obviously doesn't know what he's talking about, or that myself and others have said this from day one.

Posted by pmich Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

I just may pick this up next year to play around with it...or wait for the rumoured magnum/pluto when it comes out... One thing i can't complain about is the choices.. gotta love it!

Posted by XSKITZO2010X Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Rogers and att are pretty similar right? So does that mean I should start saving my money for the 9520 on att sometime this year?

Posted by Anonymous Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

That was kind of a surprise. I thought maybe a Pearl Flip that mirrors the Curve 8900, but I didn't expect 3G in it. It seems like a Bold packed into a Pearl.

I actually prefer the form factor of the original Pearl, but once the 3G Pearl Flip comes out, I'll give it a look. The bigger buttons will definately be an upgrade over my existing Pearl.

Posted by superblackeagle Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

YES!!!! now i can get this one unlocke for ATT and use WIFI!!!! yes yes yes

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

Posted by mightymikek83 Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

hello. i was curious you think the storm in the USA will be getting WIFI? and i thought the storm was exclusive to verizon and vodophone? does that mean it'll be on AT&t also in the states?

Posted by blacktoothberry Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Maybe a Second Gen Storm

Posted by Kaminsky Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

very good news...if tmo is not going to get it, then i can get one unlock...this is a lot of awesomeness on Christmas morning...

Posted by TampaDude Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

A GSM Storm...worth getting???

Posted by GapBoyPCS Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

I made my comments on HoFo, and I'll echo them here as well:

The OP of the whole thread on HoFo is taking a huge risk in posting this info (there are posts on whether now it's real info or fake). Sure, it benefits the consumer, but I'm worried the originator might get their Christmas present in the form of a pink-slip because some non-disclosure clause was violated.

That being said, the Storm is a promising item, but I'm not 100% sure I'll be ready to give up my Bold just yet (I'm still a bit touchscreen adverse). Maybe I'll get one as a secondary device.

Posted by Bajanbastard Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Just ordered my 8900 and now THE Storm i've been waiting on is coming out 2K9.... This will be a great year

Posted by Anonymous Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

i have a friend who owns a telus store and he informed me that they will be switching from cdma by the summer of 2009 in the major markets and by 2010 in all of canada. hopefully this makes telus more competitive in getting all the newest crackberrys. merry xmas!!

Posted by Anonymous Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

i can confirm this that its true. i have a friend pretty high up in bell and they are moving to GSM in the next few months

Posted by sheesh Friday, Dec 26, 2008 1246 days ago

ummm ya.. this is REALLY old news, there have been many articles written about it. Bell and telus are pitching in together to move to HSPA.

article... http://www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=755973

Posted by sigmamason Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

An ATT Storm might worth having as a backup to my Bold

Posted by liz_309 Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

I am constantly confused on the phones. I just wish we had a phone store to buy any phone we wanted and then choose the carrier of choice. I have to stay with Verizon because of coverage issues, but it's frustrating to be limited to the phone choice of just one network. why would verizon put out the storm with no wi-fi if it was available? and if the next one will have it, how long are we talking before they're available?

Posted by Pete6 Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

The man knew and it happened.

Posted by blacktoothberry Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Verizon will launch 4G starting in 2010 and should be completed by 2012

Posted by ECS RACING Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

That would be great if the 2nd gen Storm for Verizon got wifi.

Posted by legendofdon Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

This is excellent news! If the Storm makes it to at&t with wifi, and if the screen is fixed so dust doesn't get under it, I will totally get it! I guess now I'll have to hold off pulling the trigger on a new phone!

Posted by Anton Wahlman Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

There are now 3 Blackberries released with MicroUSB connectivity for charging and synchronization: 8220, 8900 and 9500/9530. For more detail on why this is important, read this article published yesterday: http://seekingalpha.com/article/112153-the-benefits-of-a-standardized-mi...

Posted by m00se Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

One... It figures. Not a month after I get my 8220 a better one comes out. Grrrrrr.

Two... 3G and a GPS on a 900mAh battery could be bad news...

Posted by Valace2 Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

Its perfect now, all is right with the world, hunger and famine will soon be ended, and world peace will become a reality, and to top it all off the Storm will have Wifi. Forget all the bugs and laggy OS, and the cluster .65 was, the Storm will now have Wifi. What a crock.

Posted by Valace2 Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

I just hate the "it doesn't have Wifi so it sucks argument".

Posted by isaacleese Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1247 days ago

So the 8200 has NA3G, TWO cameras, a faster CPU, WiFi AND GPS?

And the 8220 has no 3G, one camera, a slower CPU and WiFi only?

You'd think higher model # = better device (I know about the whole 00/10/20/30 scheme, too.)

And what about the 95xx series? Now we have the 9500 w/ no WiFi or NA3G (for GSM, anyway.) But the 9520 has NA3g *and* WiFi! Yay! Wait... no GPS. Can't they just make a phone that has it all, or at least number them according to increasing features/value?

Posted by Queen4111 Friday, Dec 26, 2008 1245 days ago

I agree.

Posted by Anonymous Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 1245 days ago

SHENANNIGANS!

Posted by debo7debo Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 1246 days ago

This makes me so angry! Verizon always cutting off the wifi.

Just 3 hours ago i was showing my friend my storm. He pulled up the browser to see how it loads and everything. It was super slow because of the 1X instead 1XEV signal i was getting at the time. He then wanted to show me this web page of some new game he got. The page was taking so long to load that he grabbed my brothers iphone(wifi connected) and quickly pulled up the page in no time. We then watched the trailer video on youtube from the iphone as well. I was embarrassed. Verizon is crapping themselves not having wifi. I love the storm, but no wifi is a crapper.

The VZ Navigator uses a mixture of 2 radios. The satellite positioning radio and local wifi positioning radio(wifi radio locked for gps).I think thats what prevents wifi on most verizon phones. It seems like they locked the wifi to GPS to make VZ Navigator more accurate.

Verizon should send out an OS Update utilizing the wifi radio for its intended purpose. Make VZ Navigator use the satellite positioning only. Then we can surf at faster speeds. My friends and i wont opt to use an iphone when surfing. Or at least have the option to switch it or something.

This really sucks! GIVE ME WIFI VERIZON!

Posted by icallshenanigans Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 1245 days ago

mix of two radios: yes. Wifi radio: no.

Assisted GPS uses cell data and carrier data to assist the GPS in locking. (hence why you have to subscribe to VZ Nav, but not to garmin moblie. garmine doesn't use A-GPS, they just use the standalone chip, whereas VZNav accesses verizon servers)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGPS

Posted by Anonymous Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 1245 days ago

You're an idiot. There's no wi-fi radio in the Verizon/Voda Storm. Verizon doesn't decide if it has wi-fi or not. If they did, why does the Voda version not have wi-fi either? Do you think Verizon made RIM not add it into the Vodfone version? Do you think Verizon made RIM not have a wi-fi radio in _ANY_ CDMA versioned Blackberry? So Verizon made RIM not add a wi-fi chip to the Blackberrys on Sprints, Alltels, US Cellulars, and others networks? If it's up to Verizon to take out the wi-fi chip, why does the Samsung Omnia have wi-fi? Why does the HTC Touch Pro have wi-fi? Shut up and learn something before spreading your inaccurate information.

Posted by debo7debo Friday, Dec 26, 2008 1246 days ago

This makes me so angry! Verizon always cutting off the wifi.

This really sucks! GIVE ME WIFI VERIZON!

Posted by Mark David Friday, Dec 26, 2008 1246 days ago

Hey all,

All i can say is that the Storm is soo awesome and i've been waiting for ages since the rumor started for a touch screen bberry.
i'm a little bit confused about the model numbers and the 3G band. i've gotten nowhere trying to find out if the storm will work here in the Middle East.
Does anyone have any info/links about how to be sure the 3G for storm works here? also, i waaant WIFI!!
i can finally get rid of the iPhone because our carrier, Etisalat, does not support Iphones. but they do support Blackberrys!
how awesome is that?
but i can't wait for the official release of the Storm.
It took them almost a year for the Bold to be released here as well!
help, please.
Cheers!

Posted by Mark David Friday, Dec 26, 2008 1246 days ago

Hey all,

Posted by VoltaicShock Friday, Dec 26, 2008 1246 days ago

Patience has paid off - :P

Can't wait for this to hit AT&T.

Now do I get the Storm or do I get the Magnum? - :p

Posted by icallshenanigans Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 1245 days ago

you wont get the choice.

Posted by VoltaicShock Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 1245 days ago

Why?

I am assuming you can just unlock the GSM Rogers storm and use it on AT&T.

Posted by Anonymous Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 1244 days ago

You're going to pay Rogers $529.99 for an unlocked phone?

Posted by VoltaicShock Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 1245 days ago

Sure why not, people will pay up to 600 for an unlocked Bold. Figure I can sell it for that and make some money on the deal - :P

Posted by Train13 Friday, Dec 26, 2008 1246 days ago

Too bad the Storms that are out there didnt come with WiFi. It would have been nice. I guess in 2 years when my contract is up Ill get that one but the way things are going something else will be out.

Posted by JavaDevelop Friday, Dec 26, 2008 1246 days ago

Did I miss something? Is there a GPS announcement on the 9520 Storm? If given the option, I'd take unlocked GPS over WiFi. But, if given both....grrr, I'm upset with my 9530.

Posted by Blank Friday, Dec 26, 2008 1246 days ago

Is the 9520 the same as the 9530 plus wi-fi? Does the 9530 have any features not found on the 9520?

Posted by BuddyBlackberry Friday, Dec 26, 2008 1246 days ago

LOOK AT THAT!

How come the US market is not getting this stuff; that is a dam shame.

Posted by Queen4111 Friday, Dec 26, 2008 1245 days ago

Why is the 8200 better than the 8220?

Posted by icallshenanigans Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 1245 days ago

cuz it's bs

Posted by wmp.dll Friday, Dec 26, 2008 1245 days ago

What the heck is 'Fido UNO'?

Posted by Anonymous Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 1244 days ago

It's UMA for Fido. Uses wi-fi to make local and long distance calls instead of using your anytime minutes....

Posted by jennefferrara Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 1245 days ago

i know its a bit early but would anybody know if it would be possible to add a wifi as an extra to the orginal blackberry storm ?

Posted by Anonymous Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 1244 days ago

Sure, open your Blackberry Storm up and solder your own wi-fi chip onto the circuit board....should work.

Posted by sheesh Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 1244 days ago

lmfao!!!

Posted by zeliig Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 1245 days ago

Fido UNO is a service that lets you make and receive unlimited local and Canadian long-distance calls at home on your Fido UNO phone by using your high-speed Internet service and a wireless router, so you dont have to use any of your monthly plan minutes. Plus you still have all the benefits of a cell phone when you are on the road.

Posted by wmp.dll Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 1245 days ago

So its like Rogers Talk Spot but for Fido.

Posted by Crunch Monday, Dec 29, 2008 1243 days ago

Hey all...I have an unlocked 9500 from Vodafone which works great with my AT&T SIM. The lack of 3G and WiFi really bothers me...duh.

I think I'm going to sell it and use my Bold exclusively. I would LOVE this 9520, though, but it sounds too good to be true. That begs the question. Is this FOR REAL????????????

Maybe more appropriately, HOW real, or how much credibility is there to this story??

Posted by jkerr45 Monday, Dec 29, 2008 1243 days ago

Someone please tell me when T-Mobile USA will finally get off their ass and get these new BB's.... please....

Posted by kabliga Wednesday, Dec 31, 2008 1241 days ago

I actually work for an agent location (wireless zone) that sells verizon. I so far haven't returned a single storm (not saying it doesn't happen, just not at this location) After verizon's update of the software, and learning that you could tighten or loosen the click of the screen suddenly the phone is pretty awesome. The only complaints I have are that is it kinda slow, also I dont like touch screens, which is why I never liked the iphone.

Also Verizon is phasing out the pearl. We can no longer order the pearl. The 8830 is outdated and overpriced. Obviously verizon isn't going to stand for only having 2 blackberrys. I believe the pearl flip, or maybe the new Curve will be at verizon ASAP. I would have hoped before christmas, but if there was an agreement to have the pearl flip or the new curve with only one carrier for the holidays then that would be why we dont have it yet.

Either way blackberrys are the best phones EVER and even if we only had one blackberry to sell we would sell more of it than any other smart phone and have less returns than any other phones.

Posted by Jay F. Tuesday, Jan 06, 2009 1235 days ago

I've been waiting a long time to see Fido begin reoffering their support of blackberry handsets on the network. Hopefully they can offer data packages that are in line with their recent rebranding of affordable phones/packages. $25/month 5gig+ data anyone?

Posted by faalsca68 Friday, Feb 06, 2009 1204 days ago

Does anyone have new information on when the storm 9520 will finally be on rogers stores?

Posted by S3QU3NC3 Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 1151 days ago

Hope there is possibility to get tha 9520 working on tha VZW network.. would so upgrade for Wi-Fi !

Posted by KorbenDeck Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 1150 days ago

With the 8200 i want to know if they put the short cut back that the normal pearls had, for quick switch between multi tap and Suretype.

Then of course the question is did they fix the problems the storm had?

IMO until RIM comes out with a browser that can compete with what apple has to offer they are going to lag behind the iphone. The browsers for BB's so far are the biggest drawback for me personally

Posted by fondoo Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 1146 days ago

the 9520 finally has wifi. just when i just got the 9500. dang!!!

Posted by GuessBoy Wednesday, May 13, 2009 1107 days ago

I don't think there will b a storm with wifi unless its the 2nd gen as asia just got there hand on the storm and all being the 1st gen which don't have wifi. If the 9520 was for real i think it would have been this version which would have been release in Asia but its the 9500 which have been release across asia

Storm 9520 And 3G Pearl 8200 Flip Heading To Rogers!

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