Last week when I posted our follow-up BlackBerry 9630 Review and took a look at OS 4.7.1, I made note that from what I had been hearing it appeared 4.7.1 in its current form on the 9630 would essentially be the same as OS 5.0 running on the Bold and Curve 8900 once updated (essentially, 4.7.1 will get re-labeled and become 5.0 at some point, as will 4.6).
Well we can wonder no more to similarity of 4.7.1 and 5.0 as the proof is in the pudding.. or.. err... more like the video after the jump. A fan of CrackBerry's got us some footage of OS version 5.0.0.83 running on a BlackBerry Curve 8900 that I've pieced together and uploaded for your viewing pleasure.
BlackBerry OS 5.0 Running on a BlackBerry Curve 8900
** note: at the end of the video is a msg to 'click video for more info'...
just ignore that. clicking just plays vid again. my bad! **
Like the 9630's 4.7.1 operating system, OS 5.0 on the Curve 8900 shows off all the same new improvements - trackball 'flicking' through photos, media memory statistics screen, Storm-like menu buttons, and more. We're hearing the web browser is still making incremental steps forward (it's apparently better at allowing you to scroll down the page even before things are fully loaded) and I think the coolest part of 5.0 is the new start-up screen. It still takes a while for the BlackBerry to load up, but gone is the 'white screen of death' in favor of a black screen with a BlackBerry logo and an actual indicator which shows the boot progress. BlackBerry Messenger also gets some tweaks.
For those not familiar with 5.0, you'll want to check out the BES 5.0 article Craig put together back in February after the RIM Enterprise briefing we attended in NYC. In the enterprise space, when RIM rolls out BES 5.0 (Argon), RIM devices will also get an update to 5.0 software just to keep things simple and in alignment. We've previously looked at some of the improved end-user functions coming in 5.0 like better mailbox and folder management and follow -up flags... now it's nice to see some of these other new tweaks will be included as well. Good on RIM for keeping the lineup current - it's nothing revolutionary, but it's yet another nice evolutionary step. RIM has been gearing-up for a BES 5.0 roll-out for WES this year (gotta love these acronyms!) so it won't be long before we're hearing a lot more 5.0 news.
Doesn't seem THAT much different than the 4.6 OS but I like some of the added features. Hopefully it's a lot faster.
I'm more concerned with the Storm's 5.0 though. I'm really curious as to how that'll be improved. I'm hoping it'll be released for all Blackberrys at WES.
I have to agree, that looks and feels like an incremental upgrade that should just be a 4.6.2 or a 4.7.1 kinda thing, versus a full blow 5.0, which by its very name sets up expectation of a more complete makeover. So far all we've seen are some cosmetic changes, a few new functions to give you more control over your data, and that's about it. Don't get me wrong, I'm very exited about these updates, but I think RIM might be shooting themselves in the foot by calling this "5.0".
What exactly do you guys mean by threaded sms. The blackberry already shows you the last sms messages you sent and received in a neat list.
I am not even sure it is possible to do threaded SMS messages properly. Do SMS messages contain an identifier for the message they are in reply to? If not, your phone would have to guess which thread the message is related to when you get a new message.
That explains it. Threaded SMS (although that may be what everyone calls it) is not terribly descriptive... Are you guys seriously up in arms about a minor feature like this? Really? Put some of that energy to convincing your friends to get blackberries and then you can just use blackberry messenger. Threaded SMS would make things a little easier though... To each his own I guess...
That's not threaded SMS. Threaded is when you go over the 160 character limit and the phone automatically "threads" it into a new message. Every phone I've had for the past 5 years can do that, save the Blackberries.
I agree, I have no problem with them leaving the look/interface the same but I would hope that the underpinnings of the OS would be improved. I.E. more speed, added functionality.
Looks good. Great as always Kevin. I'm a big fan of consistency so I'm glad to hear there is going to be greater level of it across devices. I plan on buying a 9630 so I'm psyched that it will be keeping up. Are Storm users going to be left out in the rain though so to speak?
Oh please let a build be leaked for the Bold soon. I know a lot of these improvements are incremental but I'll take an upgrade where I can get one. I'm running 4.6.0.247 right now and it is pretty damn fast, so I'm eager to see what kind of impact 5.0 will have.
I don't mind the OS, but seriously, where the hell is threaded messaging? I completely agree with whoever else said it. All of the other 'smartphones' have it. It can't be that hard to write.
This os has gotten my motor running so to speak. I want this now. Is this something that is going to be on just an update to all of the bb that are out now. If so how long do I have to wait.
This os looks great, im hoping for the same thing as the above poster....better battery life. I love the new bootup screen, and scrolling through the pictures.
Is there any word whatsoever as to a release or beta leak of this os?
I'm with UrbanGlow on that one, I want to see how much the Storms OS has improved, I've been playing with a few iPhones and G1's lately and I REALLY want flick scrolling on my storm! It would make things so much easier and faster. The start up screen is nice it makes it look more elegant then some ugly blank white screen. Let's cross our fingers Storm owners!
If you'd ever used a later Palm Treo/Centro or an iPhone (sorry, it was the one messaging feature they got right) you'd know exactly what it was. It's a little thing but it makes SMS so much more useable. In threaded SMS you have a conversation, just like MSN or BBM.
...but I don't understand how that is very different from what is currently offered. I mean, I'm sure it's slightly different, but where's the real benefit? After clicking on a message, I already see the last X messages between me and the selected contact, with who sent the message.
I'm a storm user, but seeing how well 5.0 is working on this curve really helps to keep me optimistic. I have seen how well and how fast the OS works on other BBs and I know that our phone will catch up soon. 5.0 looks great and I can't wait to see it rolled out for the entire BB line.
HI,
I have a Verizon Storm, May I have a unlock Code for that?
I called verizon and told me they could unlock it because the phone was just activated last February, they will just unlock my phone after 6 months. =(
I cant wait for that... Please help. I have my IMEI number
1st off, viemataray, go buy an unlock code if you want one so bad, no one here can/will help you with that for free.
2nd The storm already has flick scrolling!! Go to your pictures and give it a try!
Lastly, the OS looks sadly familiar to be such a huge jump in builds! Compared from 4.2 to 4.5/4.6, the 5.0 is disappointing in my opinion! Dont get me wrong, the added features are nice, but it looks just like my Bold and Storms OS at the moment with a couple added options and features. Nothing that big to me. I want a copy to see for myself!!
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So why aren't these release officially by the carriers.
RIM learned there lesson with the storm i guarantee that will never happen again.
I like those new features!! Those are definitely something to look forward to.
Doesn't seem THAT much different than the 4.6 OS but I like some of the added features. Hopefully it's a lot faster.
I'm more concerned with the Storm's 5.0 though. I'm really curious as to how that'll be improved. I'm hoping it'll be released for all Blackberrys at WES.
Shouldn't 5.0 be something big? It's pretty disappointing that they just added some colors.
I have to agree, that looks and feels like an incremental upgrade that should just be a 4.6.2 or a 4.7.1 kinda thing, versus a full blow 5.0, which by its very name sets up expectation of a more complete makeover. So far all we've seen are some cosmetic changes, a few new functions to give you more control over your data, and that's about it. Don't get me wrong, I'm very exited about these updates, but I think RIM might be shooting themselves in the foot by calling this "5.0".
For those of us running 4.5, this is a huge update...
Let's have some more nice fancy fonts RIM!
When is threaded SMS coming. It's needed badly.
Amen to that!!! WE NEED THREADED MESSAGES!!!!
ditto on that!!
I want this so bad! winmo has it.. and winmo is worse than a dumb phone.
I would LOVE to have threaded SMS...
What exactly do you guys mean by threaded sms. The blackberry already shows you the last sms messages you sent and received in a neat list.
I am not even sure it is possible to do threaded SMS messages properly. Do SMS messages contain an identifier for the message they are in reply to? If not, your phone would have to guess which thread the message is related to when you get a new message.
Someone please explain this for me.
They want SMS's to show up as tho it was an Instant Message.
That explains it. Threaded SMS (although that may be what everyone calls it) is not terribly descriptive... Are you guys seriously up in arms about a minor feature like this? Really? Put some of that energy to convincing your friends to get blackberries and then you can just use blackberry messenger. Threaded SMS would make things a little easier though... To each his own I guess...
That's not threaded SMS. Threaded is when you go over the 160 character limit and the phone automatically "threads" it into a new message. Every phone I've had for the past 5 years can do that, save the Blackberries.
My 8900 does this, yours not?
Threaded SMS is what iPhone has. That is what threaded SMS is. It would be amazing for BlackBerry to get. Makes it very clean.
can not agree more! I like current BB's SMS interface, but I would say the iPhone's SMS interface is just awesome
I think they want to keep the OS to look like they always have. That's fine with me, as long as they make it perform much better.
I agree, I have no problem with them leaving the look/interface the same but I would hope that the underpinnings of the OS would be improved. I.E. more speed, added functionality.
Looks good. Great as always Kevin. I'm a big fan of consistency so I'm glad to hear there is going to be greater level of it across devices. I plan on buying a 9630 so I'm psyched that it will be keeping up. Are Storm users going to be left out in the rain though so to speak?
Oh please let a build be leaked for the Bold soon. I know a lot of these improvements are incremental but I'll take an upgrade where I can get one. I'm running 4.6.0.247 right now and it is pretty damn fast, so I'm eager to see what kind of impact 5.0 will have.
I don't mind the OS, but seriously, where the hell is threaded messaging? I completely agree with whoever else said it. All of the other 'smartphones' have it. It can't be that hard to write.
Please. Let's get it? :(
dupe again...
uh, dupe.
i want threaded SMS. it really isnt hard because BBm does it so i dont understand why they just can do it with SMS. it is really annoying!
i want this 5.0 os now... probably has a better battery life! lol
This os has gotten my motor running so to speak. I want this now. Is this something that is going to be on just an update to all of the bb that are out now. If so how long do I have to wait.
Does anybody know if the BlackBerry App World will com pre-installed on future versions of the OS?
I want OS 5.0 on my 8900 now! Thanks !
the start-up still looks painfully slow
This os looks great, im hoping for the same thing as the above poster....better battery life. I love the new bootup screen, and scrolling through the pictures.
Is there any word whatsoever as to a release or beta leak of this os?
cool sh---------t!
I'm with UrbanGlow on that one, I want to see how much the Storms OS has improved, I've been playing with a few iPhones and G1's lately and I REALLY want flick scrolling on my storm! It would make things so much easier and faster. The start up screen is nice it makes it look more elegant then some ugly blank white screen. Let's cross our fingers Storm owners!
im running 4.6.1.199 and its fine, some of those new features look pretty good, whats threaded SMS and why is everyone wanting it
If you'd ever used a later Palm Treo/Centro or an iPhone (sorry, it was the one messaging feature they got right) you'd know exactly what it was. It's a little thing but it makes SMS so much more useable. In threaded SMS you have a conversation, just like MSN or BBM.
Appears on the phone display something like:
You said:
Blaah
Your contact says:
Ha!
You said:
eh?
etc. etc...
...but I don't understand how that is very different from what is currently offered. I mean, I'm sure it's slightly different, but where's the real benefit? After clicking on a message, I already see the last X messages between me and the selected contact, with who sent the message.
Double post.
official update for storm OS.
I dunno I just cannot stand that theme...they need new RIM built themes. I will likely stick with the T-mobile theme I like even though I use ATT.
what about flick scrolling???????
I'm a storm user, but seeing how well 5.0 is working on this curve really helps to keep me optimistic. I have seen how well and how fast the OS works on other BBs and I know that our phone will catch up soon. 5.0 looks great and I can't wait to see it rolled out for the entire BB line.
HI,
I have a Verizon Storm, May I have a unlock Code for that?
I called verizon and told me they could unlock it because the phone was just activated last February, they will just unlock my phone after 6 months. =(
I cant wait for that... Please help. I have my IMEI number
pleaseeee =)
thanx a lot
Really? No one wants to hear your whinning because no one can help you... go buy an unlock code.
Personally, I think you should be stuck with an locked phone just for being annoying and stupid.
??????
Where's the good stuff ? You can open pictures faster ? Is that it ? And they made a whole new OS version for it.
1st off, viemataray, go buy an unlock code if you want one so bad, no one here can/will help you with that for free.
2nd The storm already has flick scrolling!! Go to your pictures and give it a try!
Lastly, the OS looks sadly familiar to be such a huge jump in builds! Compared from 4.2 to 4.5/4.6, the 5.0 is disappointing in my opinion! Dont get me wrong, the added features are nice, but it looks just like my Bold and Storms OS at the moment with a couple added options and features. Nothing that big to me. I want a copy to see for myself!!
Unfortunately I don't know how the 8900 usually runs to compare. Wanna impress us? Show us a Storm running this!