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Posted by scottlarue Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 1632 days ago

Contest entry

 
 
Posted by BigB Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 1632 days ago

I love this site!

 
 
Posted by mrjam3s Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 1632 days ago

I enjoyed reading it!

 
 
Posted by zerog32 Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 1632 days ago

Man do I miss BlackBerry 101..LOL .....

Very good review.

 
 
Posted by justdigphones Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 1632 days ago

Although I do have to say my predictions on your review were spot on, it was an excellent review. I do have to ask, given the appropriate RIM touch, could you ever see yourself using a touch only device. I mean, if the phone operated like your curve, could you handle the lack of a physical keyboard?

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 1632 days ago

it would totally depend on the job setting...

I was given my first BlackBerry when working in Business Development at CanWest Global (BIG Media Company in Canada - owns tv stations and newspapers across the county and runs Canada.com). In that setting there's no way I could use a full touchscreen device. There would be simply too many emails to fire off and you're always running around and on the move trying hard just to keep up. There's just no time to waste. So for people with busy jobs in high stress environments, I don't see there even being a choice...a physical keyboard will remain a must. If you need a smartphone to stay connected and do your job...you're going to want the BlackBerry.

In a more laid back environment, then I could get bye with the touchscreen. As long as I'm reading more emails than I'm writing, it's not that bad. I do like the touchscreen OS. Maybe the happy compromise would be an iPhone with a slide out keyboard for typing. My big gripe with the Treo and Tilt were that they are confusing when the navigation is both done with buttons and touchscreen. But if you just slammed a slide out physical keyboard onto the iPhone (but left all the navigation still on the touchscreen), then maybe you could achieve the best of both worlds - simplicity, sexiness, and retain everyday usability.

Back on the Curve and Loving it!!!!!!

 
 
Posted by justdigphones Friday, Dec 07, 2007 1630 days ago

Thanks for the response Kevin! I know for me, until a device hits the best of both worlds mark, I'll take the crackberry world.

 
 
Posted by pmjohnson99 Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 1632 days ago

The touchscreen is cool, but the thing just seems like a toy. Plus I am curious to see what is going to happen to that screen after a year or so of use. I think you touch that screen way more than any treo or palm device.

 
 
Posted by fmieske Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 1632 days ago

I have had the iphone and blackberry and can see both sides.
I hope the blackberry 9000 will have full web, but wish for a real keyboard at the same time.

 
 
Posted by blane64 Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 1632 days ago

I have not had an iphone, but when I had an 8525 using the touch screen to initiate (dial) a call was maddening. It almost required the stylus. Maybe the iphone dialing screen is better. I sure love the dial from homescreen feature of the BB. I just start typing a name, and they all pop up. That feature alone sold me. I need a good phone first, and a music/video/etc device next.

 
 
Posted by dlgus Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 1632 days ago

.....so I could pull out both Attention or Respect from my pockets whenever I need it.

I think that sums up the difference in the two very well. I went to a friends wedding reception and I noticed a guy surrounded by women....I wandered over there, and sure enough, he'd pulled out his Iphone-LOL

 
 
Posted by Optimus_Prime Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 1632 days ago

Thanks for the review.
I was still wondering if I made the right choice, as " Grass is greener on the other side"

Now, I know that I made the right choice.

So, when are you gonna review the Nokia E61i?
That was my other option :>

 
 
Posted by dblo7 Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 1632 days ago

Thanks SO much for the clearing up of this "feature" phone. I will gladly play with it whenever I have the chance; play a game and browse the music like in Flipside. Anyways, I'll really look forward to the BB 9000 soon, and maybe rock it like there's no tomorrow. Thanks Apple, you did well, but you'll be lying in the dirt soon enough.

 
 
Posted by Click Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 1632 days ago

Kevin,
I have to say that I agree with you on the internet! I wish our little bundles of love could show us the internet world that we dream of! Showing the full internet VS the "text" internet. Now for the disagree, I think the email is a LOT better then what RIM gives up on our BBs. I would rather have my emails pulled and have my battery drained to have a full viewable email uncluttered of all the links. I know there are 3rd party apps(BBsmart viewer, empowered ect ect) but I don't want to have to pay for them! Now correct me if I'm wrong but I do believe the the Iphone has the viewable emails where everything is well, viewable. Meaning when I read my email from Gamestop it will show all the pictures and everything instead of all the links. Thats just my 2 cents,

Click

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 1632 days ago

Hey Click,

Yeah, the iPhone email is fully viewable too... i.e. the CrackBerry.com newsletter looks perfect on the iPhone and is messed up on a BB.

I addressed that in the First Impressions article - RIM needs to offer the option of fully viewable emails asap too!

 
 
Posted by EtherealLover Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 1632 days ago

This is a great review. Your findings are similar to mine in my experience with trying to find the excitement of the iPhone (its moms).
Its pretty cool on the internet browser capabilities, email 'look' and SMS (threaded) side! I send a lot of email and SMS on my Curve so its great to have buttons rather than a soft key board.
My mother still sends me text msgs that are fat fingered from her iPhone. I think she tries to do it in a hurry.
The google maps installed on the iPhone doesnt have the "my location' dot feature. I had to show up my mother on that. I'm sure iPhone will have it soon enough.
We'll see what she will end up changing to by next Spring/Summer!

 
 
Posted by Bla1ze Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 1632 days ago

Awesome review Kevin,

You touched on one key thing that has been a HUGE important item through out all of my round robin posts, the "out-of-box" experience for the user, I think this is always a key factor now a days as device grow more into mini computers then just "cell phones" we seen it with WinMob...where the out of box experience is OK, but the average user may NEVER end up using all that the device will include as a whole, the "hackability" level is MASSIVE on a WinMob devices and it kinda fails as being an "average" user device, also we seen it with the Treo devices as well,I'm not taking anything from the PalmOS when I say this...and everyone has already heard,read it said before...the system is arcane and in dire need of a spruce up...this is where the "out of box" experience comes in for treo devices, you will spend alot of time and money setting up the treo devices to make the pretty and overall more functional, now we are looking at the iPhone, while things like JailBreakMe.com do exist and it does have a TON of apps that are available they do not increase that "out of box" experience that I am looking for here.....to get those apps onto your device, you have to worry about what firmware is installed on your iPhone and of course you have to neglect/decline any other updates that do get released for the iPhone, jailbreakme.com is not an apple endorsed site, your hacking your phone, your voiding your warranty (restore option is available, but uninformed users may NOT know this) and you run the risk of owning a $400+ paperweight in doing so...so while these are huge benefits to the iPhone they are not for everyone, if your a user who is not informed or not willing to go through those steps then you are basically screwed with waiting around for Apple to release the SDK and hope that some good non-web based apps come from it and lets be honest here, without jailbreakme.com, the iPhone is kinda lame/limited, web apps are good, but then that data rate factor comes into play, currently AT&T has you covered and Apple has your butt with WiFi, but that won't fly with me here in Canada, as Kevin mentioned data rates simply BLOW!!, I'd be in he poor house in no time with an iPhone...soo if your getting the point here "out of box" iPhone fails in comparison to my BlackBerry, I have web, I have Push Email, I have a bunch of 3rd party apps that DO NOT void my warranty..all this is out of the box, other 3rd party apps that also DO NOT void my warranty are available as well...

The productivity level on the iPhone is poor as well, looking at Kevins reveiw he stated it takes longer to do basic things on the iPhone, that does not help me, alot more presses to get to what you want, the keyboard, while slick looking fails imo at really being functional, I'm a heavy emailer & text user and having to check my spelling on all those emails and texts would be a pain, I'm with Kevin, gimme my spellcheck at the end and I'm good to go.

YouTube on a phone does NOTHING to impress me, I'm sorry I know alot of people love youtube, but really with things like Chris Crocker, showing his "leave brittany alone" segments, it does make me want to visit it on a daily basis to view crappy videos of a bunch of people showing me how cool coke and mentos is...once again going back to those data rates as well, I'd be broke due to my Rogers Bill from it..now if they had included like support for Stage6..the site from DivX, i'd reconsider, if the plans fitted the situation of course.

iPod, well not much to say here, Apple rules king when it comes to the music front, with their coverflow on the iPhones BIG screen...but the lack of A2DP, Yuck..Sticking with my FlipSide thnxs...FAIL!!

Browser....iPhone OWNS here, if we could see Safari like this on all mobile browsers HELL YA...this seems to be the only revolution that Steve Jobs came through on with the iPhone as far as I'm concerned.

So overall if given the choice, even after the Round Robin, I'm sticking with my BlackBerry, it goes wayy back to dieters posts..BlackBerry "Just works"..as Mike stated "There is a lot of 3rd party software available" finally as Jenn stated "the keyboard is wonderful and has great tactile response and is a pleasure to type on."....out of the box, a BlackBerry device is ready to rox0r your s0x0rs off.

 
 
Posted by Scott403540 Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 1632 days ago

Really enjoyed your review Kevin. The iPhone is certainly terrific "i" candy. I was particularly interested in your review of the keyboard - as someone who regularly sends 40-50 e-mails a day from my device, I'm not sure the full-touch iPhone is for me, but the screen is absolutely stunning. With the rumors that RIM is developing a full-touch device it will be interesting to see how it compares (that is, if it exists).

 
 
Posted by Mitchell Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 1632 days ago

great opinions on all the phones, thanks!

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 1632 days ago

So I was correct in getting a Blackberry! I knew it! haha

 
 
Posted by tomdick Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 1632 days ago

thanks for your info i think the roundrobin has helped out a lot of people and i hope it will for a wile well tell the next batch of new phones comes out

 
 
Posted by bbsadaj Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 1632 days ago

thanks for the great review kevin. this round robin definately solidifies my choice of a blackberry. and by the way it's december not october, otherwise all of you would be a little late with reviews. happy holidays!

 
 
Posted by dstrauss Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 1632 days ago

Your final conclusion is absolutely perfect. When I briefly owned the iPhone, you really couldn't pull it out without creating a stir. However, after five days of email and Outlook sync deprivation, it was time to move back to a real device (at that time, the Blackjack). Since then, I've converted to a Crackberry addict with a Curve, and it truly is the respect machine; no only from others, but from me. After owning nearly every type and OS converged device since the Treo 180, I can resoundly state the Curve is the best combination of devices I've ever owned. Everything "just works" and it is clearly built as a strong communication device with PDA functions integrated, not just "bolted on."

Everyone should know what I mean:

1. Treo and WM, regardless of device model, feel like PDA's with a radio bolted on;

2. iPhone is clearly an iPod with a radio strapped to the back (despite the gorgeous screen);

3. Feature phones - i.e. higher end Razr like devices, are clearly cell phones with a calendar/contacts/sometimes email thrown in.

The Curve comes across as a single unified environment with the components working with/relying upon each other.

 
 
Posted by hooked1 Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 1632 days ago

This is the one I've been waiting on. I knew I made the right choice in the BB Curve, but the IPhone was always in the back of my mind. Now it has been erased and I'm looking forward to the 9000 series. Maybe I'll get an Ipod touch until the new BB comes out. Thanks again for re-affirming my choice. I don't think the Treo or the WM were ever a real option for me (sorry guys). Great Job!

 
 
Posted by OutfieldJack Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 1632 days ago

I enjoy reading about what other people are using.

Contest entry!

Jack

 
 
Posted by nickadelman Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 1632 days ago

i have a friend that has the iphone, and he regrets getting it. on the other hand i have two other friends that have berrys (1 curve, 1 8830WE). i have the 8830WE. we berryers love ours.

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 1632 days ago

I owned an iPhone...for 13 days, because ATT only gives you two weeks to try it out. As far as an entertainment device, it's great. The web browsing and YouTube were awesome. However, if you plan on using them with any regularity, you better keep a charger with you. While using it to watch only 40 minutes to an hour of YouTube on the train, making 5 to 10 short phone calls a day, and sending between 15 to 30 text messages my battery lasted LESS than 12 hours. When I went back to the ATT store I was told (and this is an exact quote)"Well if you're going to use the applications, of course the battery is going to die quickly." Also, the phone call quality is seriously subpar. Most people that I called thought they were on a speakerphone. Earpiece volume wasn't great either. All of the other features (aside from the phone and battery) are excellent. The keyboard takes some getting used to , but once you've got it down, typing is relatively fast. Texting on the phone looks great and entire conversations ae displayed. I also really liked the phone book and calendar. In the end I traded it in, and paid a $40 restocking fee (the iPhone is the only phone ATT sells that they charge you to return) and bought a Blackberry Curve 8310(My 1st Blackberry) and I love it. I may eventually go back to the iPhone after all of the bugs are ironed out (battery life and call quality) but for now I'm perfectly happy w/my Blackberry.

 
 
Posted by harirson3king Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 1632 days ago

I had a friend who was on the fence between a Berry and an iphone. She was set on the iphone, but she wanted to be able to shoot emails off and just get things done like I could on my Berry.

After reading your review, I helped her make the right decision . She got a pearl.

 
 
Posted by dmnall Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 1632 days ago

I know I have been kicking around on the iPhone since it was first announced because having an all in one device sounds awesome, however, before this review, I have tried using the iPhone 2 - 3x and I was not a fan of the phone functions and the touchscreen keyboard was a pain to type on. After a 3 phones *1x n75, 2x razr2 v9s, I checked out the bb curve *my first bb* and I can say, that I made the best move over the the 8300 curve... I went to check out the iPhone again yesterday and all I know is the keyboard is what threw me off eventhough the web browsing is awesome but come on, I need to be able to use my phone for what is a Cell Phone.. The BB is the best phone, e-mail and it does video, music great, just web browsing is not as good as I would like but hopefully it will get better especially with the 9000 series bb.

Charlie

 
 
Posted by Patrick Lau Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 1632 days ago

Iphone OS and browser is the future... Blackberry desperately needs to update its OS and browser and then it will be the perfect smartphone!

 
 
Posted by Domski Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 1631 days ago

I'm sad to see this end, i really enjoyed every article and individual point of view. Idea for the next one: 4 smartphone experts are stuck for a week with crappy pay as you go phones and see who could survive the longest.

 
 
Posted by Jennifer Chappell Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 1631 days ago

Excellent article Kevin! I enjoyed reading it! I agree with you about the "iGadget". Great name! I wish I'd had better luck with the jailbreaking like you did. I never got to play any games. I don't know what I did wrong.

That was really cool how you counted 37 strangers coming up to you to look at the iPhone! It is an attention getter for sure.

I'm having some CrackBerry withdrawal after sending back the Curve. ;-( Gonna get one of those little beauties someday!

 
 
Posted by matthewkreth Friday, Dec 07, 2007 1631 days ago

A friend of mine was a proud owner of a BlackBerry 8310 Curve until the iPhone came out. He quickly went out and got one and was loving it. He loved everything about it, including the amazing web-browsing, since he wasn't truly addicted to email and basically wanted a web-phone with games and a calendar. He was big into texting, though. So he and a separate friend were attempting to text me at the same time to complain about my tardiness, yet again. The friend with the Curve was able to fire off the txt message to me in under 20 seconds, and it took the iPhone an entire minute to look my address up and txt me. He was so pissed and infuriated that he couldn't txt or type as fast, that he quickly returned the iPhone within the 7 day return period and went back to his BB Curve. All it takes is a side by side comparison, and in everything except real HTML web-browsing, the BB wins hands down.

 
 
Posted by psychoelaine Friday, Dec 07, 2007 1631 days ago

If you have hotmail you cant set up your account with the iphone.
Hotmail doesn't have IMAP... Iphone requires IMAP accounts.

It was to be expected since hotmail is from msn and the iphone from Apple.

 
 
Posted by thewesman Friday, Dec 07, 2007 1631 days ago

So, I suppose you didn't take the time to use the iphone as a curling stone, er, iphone stone, er, iStone? I would certainly watch a video of someone using an iphone as a curling stone if it was posted on youtube :-D

Good review :-) I don't think I'd be happy with the soft keyboard. I'm getting really fast with typing on the pearl using suretype, I hope to upgrade to something with a full keyboard sometime and further speed up my typing :-)

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Friday, Dec 07, 2007 1631 days ago

great review, i think you nailed all teh aspects and proved that yes the phone is innovative, touch screen with out styluses, new operating system from a computer icon and their first phone and if the formula holds, will probably continue to sell with new models. combines all somone would want in an all in one device, yet it is not as refined as people say ....yet. will definetly set standards about how other smart phones approach new devices now. would still love to own one, but my smartphone will always be a crackberry.

 
 
Posted by pittstategorilla78 Friday, Dec 07, 2007 1631 days ago

I honestly do not like the Iphone. I do not think that the Iphone will be in any comparison to the Curve.

 
 
Posted by pittstategorilla78 Friday, Dec 07, 2007 1631 days ago

The curve is still much better in my opinion than the iPhone.

 
 
Posted by Fbrn Friday, Dec 07, 2007 1631 days ago

Assuming that you could not have a beloved blackberry, of the three devices that you used which would you pick to use day to day?

 
 
Posted by Gibralter Friday, Dec 07, 2007 1631 days ago

Cool review. You answered some question i had about its "smartness" and ability as a phone + cool toy. I think the iGadget names is nice.

 
 
Posted by Sojourner Saturday, Dec 08, 2007 1630 days ago

I still don't know. I phone or an att tilt. The screen is attractive but from the use of the curve I have I know a screen isn't everything. It sure is pretty though!!!

 
 
Posted by Krampus Saturday, Dec 08, 2007 1630 days ago

Excellent review-- especially informative stress testing at the hospital. I will stick with tysty treo 650 (tweaked to do everything except be a macbookpro). Will admit soft keyboards are the way of the future--precious screen size is gained by removing hard keys. If only: Sony TH55 designers had enuf sense to release a GSM model--well, lets just say Sony would be at the cellular table and the iPhone would not be nearly so novel. Apple shld explore the advantages of transparency, make a popup see-through keyboard which orients landscape mode and expands overlaystyle across the entire screen-as long as this screen disappears on command your typing problem will be aided by much larger keys. As long as a user could set the tranparencylevel he could see through the keyboard to what he was typing underneath.

 
 
Posted by oskaru Sunday, Dec 09, 2007 1628 days ago

I enjoyed reading this article on final thoughts about the iphone, I would have to say that the new 9000 model would have such specs if it weren't for apple's invention. I appreciate the iphone and it's minimalistic approach that makes Apple it's signature trait. Thank you guys for such a grand experience in learning about different models of smart phones, I hope to see the round robin next year and continue to learn more from you guys. Much appreciated.

 
 
Posted by NakedLadyInvesting Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 1619 days ago

Your final thought:
"I want it to be a device that both Gets Respect and Attention all in one! "

That's all I want as well! My boyfriend has an iphone and while I love to use it for the web when we are out, I can't stand that keyboard! I switched from the Tmobile Wing to becoming a bb owner for that reason alone!

He has offered to get me an iphone and that would mean giving up my beloved sweet baby Curve. Even though I have been tempted -and only for the web browsing, I just could never switch. The Curve does everything and more (with 3rd party apps) that I could ever hope for. The last final piece to the puzzle and what would make BB the ultimate smartphone is to get the web the way the iphone has it.

I dream about it everyday...

 
 
Posted by Yvonne R. Sunday, Nov 16, 2008 1285 days ago

I love the depth of these reviews. It gives us a good understanding of other phones.

 
 
Posted by Omahahaha Saturday, Dec 06, 2008 1266 days ago

I really like reading these phone reviews even though it is easy to see that the BB is the best device for me.