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Posted by r0cketman22 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

Please be a refreshed 9700!

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Posted by infinus Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago


I am Loyal to RIM, lol (dogs are very loyal),
I am logical.....

Its not about new phones...
Its about same hardware....
"OMG, I have just freed 1 mb after doing X things, I am so happy,
Ummmuh ummmmuh.. I love my BB so much",
Lol
This is not 80's or 90's...
CPU's are in Ghz now....
RAM's are in GB now....
NOKIA N95,N82,N95-8GB (released in 2005/6) has dedicated openGL hardware support.

RIM always sings same old song wearing different outfit.

Apple is greedy....
But
RIM is dumb and greedy both.

 
 
Posted by jetman1287 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

People wouldn't mind upgrading or feeling "out of date" if the new version was something worth buying.

Instead of focusing on software to fix current problems, they announce new device 3 months down the line, unaware that most people sign 2-year contracts.

Does anyone REALLY believe RIM couldn't have made the 9700 with 512MB, a bigger camera, and OS 6 functionality? This new "Onyx II" doesn't wow anybody.

Watch if it doesn't have OpenGL...A "Bold 9900" will be released in September and guess what, if you were the sucker to buy this one you don't get OpenGL.

That's not being innovative, or that "eventually your phone will be obsolete anyway"...it's RIM making a half-assed effort every 3 months as they continue to fall behind Google. EVERY current BB (Curve 85XX, Storm 95XX, Tour, Bold 96XX+) should have the webkit browser. It's not a stretch. But they will force us all to buy a new phone.

 
 
Posted by Antonyjeweet Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 617 days ago

Many people still walking with an old 9000, or 8900.
There contract will end soon. If RIM does it correctly they can make more profit out of the 9700II.

I definetly want to upgrade to this 9700II, i still have the 9000. 9700 is not worth 400€. 9700II will be if it will come.!

 
 
Posted by saber87 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

Why focus on old phones? Why not focus on newer/better devices that are actually different?

 
 
Posted by jorGeorge Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

Because RIM knows people will eat up whatever they feed them. I mean just read some of these comments. Why spend money developing new hardware when you can cut expenses by releasing the same hardware and sell just as much? It's simple business and it's working. I don't blame RIM, I blame the people who blindly buy their products.

 
 
Posted by Madness87 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

There's nothing wrong with improving devices and adding features to bring them up with the times. Most people who complain are most likely disgruntled owners who feel slighted that new tech is coming after they just bought theirs.

What has Apple done in the past few years? Added 1-2 more features that competitors have had for years and they charge hundreds more and people buy them up the yin-yang.

Also, improving a device that is the same in size to have a better camera, screen, RAM, addded touch support, new OS is called developing new hardware.

I'm just wondering why no love for the Bold 9000 refresh? The original BOLD was a beast of a device. It still has the biggest screen and keyboard for a non-touch screen blackberry and because it is the biggest, I'm sure they can put in at least 1 gb ram, 5 MP camera or above, bump the resolution up, add a bigger battery, add wireless-n and a front facing camera.

 
 
Posted by stuffx Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

because bold 9000 is ugly

 
 
Posted by Madness87 Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 617 days ago

And I don't say that because I use one. Most blogs, polls, consistently rate it as one of the best looking BB's ever released. Also, a recent crackberry.com poll showed nearly 75% would prefer a 9000 refresh. Just imagine, having an even bigger screen with better resolution, room for a 5 MP camera or even 7 Megapixel camera, an 1850 MaH battery, wireless-N, possibly 512 mb or even 1 gb ram, trackpad, micro-usb etc...

Nothing could touch it save for the 9800 with its touchscreen. Fact is, the BOLD 9000 still has the largest non-touch screen, the loudest speakers, etc... The larger size should allow them to achieve all this.

 
 
Posted by tnewton3 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

Like I stated below I have an upgrade coming and am going with the 9800 which is why I'm not too upset about the quick release of the new 9700. If they were to "refresh" the 9000 with adding what you spoke of it would be a tough decision for me weather to go with my favorite Berry ever or go touchscreen 9800.

 
 
Posted by devGOD Sunday, Jun 06, 2010 616 days ago

Apple actually makes huge improvements and only has one model. RIM makes minor improvements on all of there models. Its a joke what they do. Release a phone with no wifi or 3g then 6mons later release the same phone with wifi/3g... its like they're buying themselves time to just sit around doing nothing. So RIM will release 9700II with 512mb wtf why not more space. They increase the space just enough to handle there new OS. Its a BUSINESS PHONE thats needs F'N space. Truncated emails and lack of space on a business phone come on now. Thats a joke and there is no excuse for that.

 
 
Posted by tnewton3 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

I have an upgrade and am going for the 9800 but if I didn't and had to deal with a new device that was getting a "refresher" I wouldn't be happy to say the least.

 
 
Posted by gregerator Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

Would be replacing the Dakota?

 
 
Posted by tnewton3 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago
 
 
Posted by Scoot05RedSS Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

WOW! I really wanna jump to the 9800, but with all the rumors, I'm scared to use my upgrade now and not wait for the bigger and better! What to do? The Onyx III sounds awesome!

 
 
Posted by Newman05 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

I know the feeling man ! lol at least you don't have to look at them everyday ... temptation is a B****!

 
 
Posted by Jake Storm Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

I don't think a refresh will necessarily "outdate" the current 9700.
People cry that RIM isn't moving ahead fast enough, but bemoan the day their current device gets "outdated".

 
 
Posted by mi_canuck Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

Ironic ain't it? ;)

 
 
Posted by j3computerservices Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

saber87 I totally agree with you. RIM's numbers speak for themselves . They need to come out with something different

 
 
Posted by elite1 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

What numbers do you mean? The numbers that show RIM is still the top smartphone producer?
And they are coming out with something different. The 9700 was new & different. The 9800 will be new & different, and they'll also be releasing an improved 9700.
This isn't Apple. RIM can make more than one device at a time.

 
 
Posted by mavricxx Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

RIM is losing customers, people are waiting for their contracts to be over and jump over. People are getting tired of the same old crap. All their phones look alike, and none can match Androids or even the new 4g iPhone. The 9800 looks like crap, its thick not sexy, has low memory, and no dual cameras, did I mention no Skype or even hotspot capability. Yeah they got tethering but a hot spot is alot better.

 
 
Posted by shaleem Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

RIM is losing customers you say. What do you base that on? Do you have data? Is it just a feeling? The 9800 looks like crap? To whom? You? Again, based on what? Is Skype something that most BlackBerry users want? Demand? All their phones look alike? So how many variations of the I Phone are there? How about Droid? Do they all look "different?" Why do so many people get in such a tizzy about RIM. It's real simple: If you don't like the product, don't buy it. Is this some sort of contest to see who can out complain the next guy?

 
 
Posted by BluCheze Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

This is what i HATE about RIM. they keep releasing same stuff and screw customers. Im done. When the new iphone comes out, bye bye RIM. i really hope they bleed out customer like crazy

 
 
Posted by j3computerservices Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

+1

 
 
Posted by mi_canuck Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

-1

 
 
Posted by 312 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

lol...yeah "+1" fits right in there with "epic". Trendy internet geek wannabes.

 
 
Posted by polluxBB2010 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

me too, disappointing strategy if that is true.

 
 
Posted by drumzalicious Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

the only difference between RIM and Apple is that RIM releases updates for multiple devices each year and Apple updates one device. Either way you look at it you're getting a new device every year

 
 
Posted by hiyt Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 617 days ago

the next gen iphones features leave no reason to buy a rim device other than bbm.

 
 
Posted by elite1 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

@BluCheze and all the eloquent "+1" posters:
How are customers being screwed?
I can't follow the logic when people say this kind of stuff.
So, if they never came out with an Onyx2, then everyone with a 9700 is treated well and not screwed, but if they come out with an improved version all of a sudden those same customers have been screwed?
They still have the same phone: a great 9700.

Newer, improved models don't magically make the old models worse somehow!

If you want an iPhone, go get an iPhone. Getting one as revenge for RIM "screwing" their customers is silly.
Either you prefer the iPhone or you don't.
And oh boy you're gonna be mad when the next iPhone comes out. Then you'll have to boycott Apple too.

Anyway, have fun. We'll miss you.

 
 
Posted by cdf3 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

They're most likely upset because they not longer have the latest and greatest device. Some people hate to be outdone. If they're on top they're OK. If not, then they tend to point blame.

 
 
Posted by mi_canuck Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

Brilliant post! Sadly, reasonable folks like ourselves are in the minority...

 
 
Posted by hiyt Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 617 days ago

they only used to make a flagship model once a year. i waited months for the 9700, so now that they're making a new successor so soon after i feel cheated and it doesn't stop at that. since there's a new flagship model coming out app devs are gonna stop focusing on my phone as well as rim focusing less on os updates for my phone. it doesn't bother me too much tho since this blackbrick was only usful to me for bbm, which i will keep my 9700 for and use another phone primary

 
 
Posted by blazed12 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

Dude, no one gives a damn about what you think. Go ahead and leave RIM we won't miss you. See ya.

 
 
Posted by lewisc1979 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

That is all.

 
 
Posted by sstevenson Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

I am soon ready for an upgrade to my trusty 9000, but was hoping for a larger keyboard than the 9700. This will be sweet though for an upgrade if it really does come out in a couple months!! :)

 
 
Posted by jorGeorge Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

Wow, you people must have a ton of money to drop every time RIM announces a "new" phone. I wish I had that much money to waste...I mean spend.

 
 
Posted by Zanshin- Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

RIM phones don't cost nearly as much as iPhones.

 
 
Posted by Zanshin- Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

RIM phones don't cost nearly as much as iPhones.

 
 
Posted by HTC_Droid_EvO Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

Get it right the first time, Jeeezz

Who is really wanting to defend the fact that they are doing this yet again, not like a new model or anything, same form factor just with Specs that should have been on the first

IE: 9630 and the "bold/tour" whatever re-do crap

DROIIIDD does...RIM doesn't and yea Google/Android and even apple have new phones popping out but they make major changes not tweaks and charge you all over SMH...

 
 
Posted by 312 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

What do ya know...another HTC troll.........you need a girlfriend.

 
 
Posted by RHChan84 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

You do not have to buy them, RIM is not forcing you to get it.

 
 
Posted by polluxBB2010 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

How do they expect to have loyal customers, if they are not loyal to the existing customers anyways?.

Come on, I would like to know what would you feel if you get that new 9700a Onyx II, and a couple of months later, they release 9700ab Onyx III at the same price or lower...

Regards,

 
 
Posted by mi_canuck Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

WTF is your problem? What does RIM owe you? Loyalty? Please... You wanted a good device, RIM offered it (9700), you bought it. Done deal.

Go to your local car dealer or wherever you got your car and start complaining the minute the new model year is released. Clearly your car company isn't loyal by releasing a new model every year. Clearly your car is now obsolete. Release the fury man.

 
 
Posted by RHChan84 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

Good for them I guess. I wouldn't upgrade just because a new device came out.
I still have my 9530 until Feb. and I only upgraded because my girl went to VZW and it was bogo free and I was due for an upgrade and all the good stuff I was able to get and I got the S2 for $80 with a free Tour. If she didn't go to VZW, I would still be on my 9530.

 
 
Posted by mi_canuck Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

I'm getting the 'refresh' as soon as it hits... With T-Mo reducing the 9700 to $0 ie FREE with new plan... The sign of EOL... Would seem plausible this updated 9700 could be legit!

 
 
Posted by Vinnyjr Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

That tells e that the current 9700 either won't handle the new OS or it won't run very good on it, why else redo a fairly new phone. Poor ass planning by Rim since they have been working on this new OS for a very long time. That is what happens when everyone else is overbuilding their phones and Rim still puts 5yr old parts in their devices. I never understood building a phone with such small memory capability, and a processor that is so small it is sickening. I guess this will force all crazy ass BB nuts into updating their phones once again. Just what Rim wants I guess.

 
 
Posted by Connor83 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

I hear ya. I have never figured out why BB's have lacked in memory and processors. It seems like it should be easy for them. They make wonderful devices they just need to make them top end. And not just
Satisfactory. Cuz just satisfactory doesn't cut it in this industry anymore. But I do love my BB. And if I can get a refreshed model of what I have I think I would love then more. And if they wanna up the processor, they should slap in that new dual 1.2ghz (http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/06/01/qualcomm-begins-shipping-dual-...) and then make a new beast of a phone.

 
 
Posted by darkslim369 Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

rediculous if true. not for new users im sure but for people who just recently had to resign a 2 year contract to get the bb 9700 this is BS! they should atleast give us bold 9700 users an option like to trade in our phone and 50bucks more for the updated one. cmon RIM or TMOBILE!

 
 
Posted by simplayer Friday, Jun 04, 2010 618 days ago

Why should they? People bought the 9700. Was it not worth their money when they bought it?