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Posted by James Courtney Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1166 days ago

Or is it possible that, since RIM does most of their pricing and for the most part operates really in US$, someone at RIM or Rogers recently realized that there has been a 30% rise in the cost of the US$ relative to C$ over the past eight months? Do these prices bring the cost in line with costs from AT&T and T-Mobile? Has RIM raised its C$ charges to Rogers? Or does Rogers get billed by RIM in US$, even though it involves transactions between two Canadian companies?

We can't really tell based on Bell and Telus prices for equivalent product as Bell and Telus only introduce Storm in the late fall when exchange rates had completed most of their adjustment.

Just a speculation ... FWIW...

 
 
Posted by Bla1ze Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1166 days ago

RIM is all for flooding the market with their devices and offering them to carriers at low cost, RIM was behind the BOGO free offer from Verizon, safe to say RIM is not charging carriers any more then they did before for the devices, if anything..devices are getting cheaper to the carriers.

 
 
Posted by Anonymous20091983 Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 1164 days ago

I agree that the prices are bogus, but Telus and Bell users have fun when they "try" to switch to HSPA later this year. Their network will be tiny and it will take them at least 4 years to get anywhere near Rogers network coverage. On top of having worldwide coverage on your Rogers phone. As for new providers "Dave" and "Globalite (or something like that)The Globalite one will be like Fido and Koodo, and Dave will be a direct competitor of Rogers, Telus and Bell. Sadly the CRTC ordered Rogers to let Dave stream off of it's network until they get there own. If you get a "Dave" phone it is going to say Rogers on it, sounds great....

 
 
Posted by Andy348 Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1166 days ago

Annoying, yes. Will this stop me from canceling my Bell contract and getting a Bold? Probably not, unless the Niagara comes as a savior.

 
 
Posted by Bla1ze Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1166 days ago

Niagara will eventually hit all CDMA carriers.

This won't stop everyone dead in their tracks from either keeping/signing up with Rogers, to say that is just outlandish, but it will def sway some users, even more so if the Niagara shows up sooner then later on Canadian CDMA carriers.

 
 
Posted by goulav Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1166 days ago

i've heard of this for ages now, but how do they justify a 3 year contract. they only give like a 50$ discount for a 2 year contract... that's ridiculous.

 
 
Posted by CurlyFatAngry Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1166 days ago

Guess I'm lucky, picked up the Bold last night for C$150 :)

 
 
Posted by tjaffer Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1166 days ago

We'll even if you sign a 3 year contract.... you can still upgrade after 2 years.....If you look at it that way, you get a 2 year contract with a 3 year discount...

TJ

 
 
Posted by Emilie C Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1166 days ago

Ehhhhhhhhh...FML

 
 
Posted by Drazyr Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1166 days ago

I work for The Source (A Canadian electronics store, formerly by Circuit City, but going strong), and am constantly amazed by the people who don't shop around for prices. I JUST checked our pricing on the 8900 and the Bold and we sell them for $99.99 and $149.99 respectively. This is not a special, we have always priced our phones $100 or more cheaper than Rogers for as long as I've worked here (3 years).

 
 
Posted by Bla1ze Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1166 days ago

That's true..but when it comes to upgrades your hands are tied and those offers apply to NEW customers, not existing ones.

 
 
Posted by kronwhon Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 1165 days ago

people don't go to the source because the sales reps there don't know what they are talking about

 
 
Posted by Phatric Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 1164 days ago

Hey Buddy,

BCE (Bell Canada) just bought every single 'The Source' in Canada.

...You're a Bell rep now. Welcome to the loop. : )

 
 
Posted by mbmoney Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1166 days ago

i would just like to thank Rogers. Why you might ask?? oh just because they gave me another reason to hate them!!! :@ i don't think anyone seen this coming considering the rip off of plans they came out with recently...i don't know if they were official, just saw them in the Rogers forum on CB.

P.S. i hope competition comes soon!!!

 
 
Posted by kaylsthegreat Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 1165 days ago

I'm told Communications Canada or something like that is introducing a new provider fairly soon.

According to my prof this will lower prices for everyone

 
 
Posted by truckdrivinchefnet Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1166 days ago

I'm so glad I left Rogers when I did!!!

 
 
Posted by Guylene Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1165 days ago

Me to. I was with them for 10 years, service went down hill. I Switch to Bell 3 years ago and a few of my friends that were on Rogers also went to Bell. Rogers you suck big time.

 
 
Posted by mbmoney Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1166 days ago

RED IS THE COLOUR OF THE DEVIL!!!
lol

 
 
Posted by brill Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1166 days ago

Rogers is terrible, always have been always will be. I canceled all my TV, phone contracts with them and have done the same with all my family members. In fact I go out of my way to get people to cancel their contracts with Rogers. At my work I've actually steered them clear of a major contract with Rogers. Someday they might get it, but its highly unlikely. No problem though I'll just keep people away from them.

brill

 
 
Posted by maDgamEr Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1166 days ago

This is absolute BS towards existing customers... How lame can you be? Anyone think a petition might bring our general dissatisfaction out into their plain f*(king sight, kind of like the iPhone data plan thing last year?

 
 
Posted by curious634987453049 Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1166 days ago

Hey, would anyone know if this could be a possible breach of contract?

 
 
Posted by kronwhon Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 1165 days ago

There is nothing on the contract that mentions upgrade eligibility or pricing. As a matter of fact, the contract doesnt mention upgrades at all

 
 
Posted by TELUS Guy Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1166 days ago

Hey guys!

Sorry to go off topic a little... but I actually work for TELUS Mobility & I see these kind things all the time. I just wanted to know how the Crackberry folk feel about TELUS?

I thought I would do my own little R&D.

Thanks.

PS: feel free to be completely honest!

 
 
Posted by Done With Telus Saturday, Mar 21, 2009 1163 days ago

Here is my rant about Telus.........I have been a loyal telephone customer of theirs for 30+ yrs, internet customer since the day they started offering it(10+yrs?), and cell phone customer for the past 3 yrs on their Mike iden network. My Blackberry 7520i sucks and I have called a variety of times to complain, they always tell me to pull the battery and reset. When I do that, it takes 20-30 min to get going again. I miss calls because it sometimes doesn't ring. They did replace it once about 18 months ago, but I honestly see no difference in the quality. I have 3 months left on my 3 yr contract, so I call Telus "loyalty department" and get some arrogant SOB who is not even from Canada and I can hardly understand him, and I ask for some kind of deal on the new Mike Blackberry just launched. He refuses and says I must renew for 3 yrs and pay full price for the phone if I want it. I am literally counting down the days when I call Telus to cancel my home phone, internet, plus all 3 cell phones we have with them, not to mention my family who've agreed to do the same. They are going to lose a HUGE amount of monthly income from my family alone, and all because this "loyalty" SOB won't give me $100 off the phone, like Rogers would do with the Bold.
They are arrogant and do not deserve anyones loyalty.

 
 
Posted by reeneebob Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1166 days ago

So glad I'm with Bell. For all the B.S some people talk about the, I have been a Bell customer since 19 (home phone) and Mobility for 6 years, they have never done me wrong, and have been one step ahead of Rogers as far as BB plans and data offerings go.

WTG Rogers! Kudos to you!

ALienate more customers than you already have!

 
 
Posted by shabbasuraj Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1166 days ago

Another reason why ROBBERS is called ROBBERS.

 
 
Posted by Noobie101 Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1166 days ago

canada's phone rates are ridiculous. compared to the united states, its a joke. we are already paying 10-20% (more somewhere around there) then they are in the States, and now they are raising the prices more?? are you kidding me!!?? and even with this whole liberal plan in eliminating the system access fee which is a good idea since the government doesn't require it any more last 20+ years or so. these phone companies are just scamming people. if prices keep going up soon we will be paying 1500 just for a phone let alone 200 a month.....

 
 
Posted by Bison Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1165 days ago

RIM is an overpriced company. They make great products sure yeah I am down hell I own a BlackBerry Curve and am happy with it but there service plans are WAY overpriced for one on all carriers even those better then AT&T like T-Mobile. There phone prices never seem to go down despite age and its mass popularity. The BB Curve beat the V3 Razr many many months ago for #1 selling phone and yet I still paid $169 for the Curve with a 2 year contract and the phone is more then 2 years old! Most phones are almost cut in half with prices after a year and almost in half again a year after that.

RIM you make good products but tell me what is so "Smart" about having a phone that costs $500+ retail in the first place? I gurantee you it is not costing you that much in R&D and to make the phone since if you look at it most of there products are very similar feature wise with minor cosmetic changes and lets not go into the carrier war of being able to upgrade your OS that is another war on its own. I think they seriously need to start focusing on cutting the costs on there phones and doing as many in the forums have said. Start up a Business side (high overpriced phones) and then a Consumer side (lower to middle class phones). Stop repackaging your phones with new codenames and numbers to try and make it seem like it was designed from scratch. Your not fooling nobody and please consider using another OS instead of your own which I am sure would cut the price alone since you wouldn't have to hire a whole Software team to keep up with updating an outdated OS. There are plenty of good ones already out there and its a simple thing called outsourcing to cut costs and it works.

If changes are not made to the way they are working I have a feeling RIM will go the way of Palm in a few years time. We all know how Palm dominated the market and why they left almost overnight and guess who picked up when that happened, RIM, guess where RIM may be going? Perhaps HTC will grab there spot.

 
 
Posted by jemelanthony Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1165 days ago

KIDDING MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! FML! luckily i have a bold that im not giving up anytime soon

 
 
Posted by ress626 Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 1165 days ago

blame canada

 
 
Posted by stefano1979 Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 1165 days ago

Just call Rogers and ask to speak to a "Customer Relations" rep (If you are a current Rogers customer)...they will hook you up.

Never paid full asking price for a phone, just got a free upgrade to the iphone...:o)

They even hooked me up on my Data Plan.

Peace out.

P.S...The BB Storm is a piece of junk... :o)

 
 
Posted by Nick792 Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 1165 days ago

Man I work for Rogers and i'm pissed. Fuck rogers, i'm telling people to go to Fido.

 
 
Posted by bam_2k Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 1165 days ago

I've been with Rogers for 8 years and I don't see why everyone hates them so much. They've treated me well as a customer, I get a great price on phones, I have a reduced bill.. Rogers is a business, and believe it or not they are the biggest cellphone provider in Canada.. even if this price changing is true, people will stick with them.

Think about telus and bell's 25-35$ 'esn swap' charge every time you buy a new phone.. or how about having to deal with telus' out sourcing their customer service call center to India.. how about how bell's system access fee is 8.95 and .75 cents, compares to the canadian norm 6.95. and .50 cents.. do you realize how much extra money is brought in by charging that little extra?

Now lets go bash Rogers because of this? the people here complaining should take a look at their own provider.

Rogers has better phones, better reception, and better customer service. Just because some of you don't know how to talk to people doesn't make them a bad company.. it makes you an idiot.

 
 
Posted by kronwhon Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 1165 days ago

Bell just lowered their system access fee to $6.95 ,,., Finally.. but I agree that the $25-$35 "Esn swap" fee is garbage .. Rogers still beats bell and telus, but mostly on roasming agreements. (ever try to go to the caribbean on your "world edition" phone?)

 
 
Posted by tnewton3 Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 1165 days ago

Hmmm that's sucks if you use them as a carrier, I'm already used to paying those prices. I'm with at&t... I guess I can be happy about not having to sign a 3 year agreement.

 
 
Posted by Phatric Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 1164 days ago

..a Rogers customer.

Been with Telus for 11 years and i never plan on leaving.

Despite a concession, i refused to use Bell services under their employment. During that time i heard even worse stories about Rogers customer service than Bell Canada's.... That was more enough to keep me away for life.

 
 
Posted by HappyRogersGuy Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 1164 days ago

Rogers is good. Not sure whats happening with the pricing but I got my curve 8900 on a 3 year plan for $0 seven weeks ago

I paid $49 plus tax. Then mailed in the $50 rebate coupon.

So really I paid $6.50

And anyone can upgrade their phone at almost any time in their plan as long as you paid out $1000 in revenue first.

I had a 2 year contact. Was into it for 14 months and upgraded to the curve.

Simple call retentions

 
 
Posted by Noobie101 Friday, Mar 20, 2009 1164 days ago

25 dollars for the esn swap. and rogers has 25$ for a new sim so to me its the same thing. and for the system access fees, its just a scam the government doesn't even charge for that anymore. so when u see the commercials for no system access fee they arnt losing anything.....

 
 
Posted by msaster Saturday, Mar 21, 2009 1163 days ago

I am very glad to to have att.........they may not be perfect but better than what I m reading about. With the econ. I feel bad for my neighbors across the Ambassador Bridge