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Posted by Kevin Michaluk Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

First! haha. Just had to do that :)

Great job Bla1ze! You lucky bugger you. I am soooo envious right now! Hopefully I'll be able to pick one up come Monday. Definitely concur with you on pretty much everything.

Only difference in the end is that I think I actually prefer the 8900 over the Bold. I like having a smaller phone to carry around with me. I think I can actually type quicker on the Curve 8900 too vs. the Bold - less physical distance to move your thumbs (though I am tired of AZERTY..can't wait for this in QWERTY).

Definitely an awesome Christmas present from Rogers.

 
 
Posted by JSho101 Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

Wow, the 8900 Curve sounds absolutely amazing. I'd love to get my hands on one! Any idea if this device will be available to individuals on other networks (such as AT&T)?

 
 
Posted by NYCman18 Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 1073 days ago

The Blackberry Curve 8900 is supposedly set to come to AT&T later this year.
Though The Blackberry Curve 8900 is released with T-Mobile this past February 18th 2009.
It has Wi-Fi, GSM & EDGE Capabilities....and UMA ;-))

T-MOBILE USA

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Monday, Dec 08, 2008 1152 days ago

Bought my Rogers 8900 today!!! SWEETTTT!!!!

Trackball is definitely just a black version of the white one. Pretty sure it's identical in use.

Even hooked up the TalkSpot service... UMA here I come!

 
 
Posted by Shawn Roberts Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

Another BlackBerry without 3G? Why?? I understand that some that some people are okay without 3G but modern smartphones have 3G and there is no excuse for releasing another one without it.

 
 
Posted by telejeff Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

I feel your pain. It's a bummer but RIM often focuses on the aggregate phone experience as opposed to the narrow scope of including one awesome feature. While the Storm has proven to contradict this, the storm has been relatively probably free to most new smartphone types. I also think it helps quite a bit that the Storm is on a CDMA network who's EVDO rev a technology has proven to have less hick ups.

With a blackberry device, speed isn't everything. RIM's history proves this by there relatively slow and late adoption of the latest radio/data technologies offered by the carriers. Blackberries wouldn't be the devices they are without RIMs commitment to critical areas such as battery life, reliability, reception, OS stability, etc. A 3G device isn't about swapping out an EDGE radio for a HSPDA one (or a 1xRTT for a EVDO rev a radio). The phone has to be completely engineered from scratch from bottom to top to make a fine product.

I would argue many of the 3G products have not been up to par or have even been failures. The ATT tilt was recognized as the zippy 3G device a while back, but the device is so unpractical and does not make sense for a lot of users (most notably blackberry users). The iphone 3G has reliability has been less than stellar. I don't know if that has been ATT's network, but regardless it doesn't always make sense to rush a 3G product to market if the network is not at an acceptable level.

There was speculation that the bold was rushed to market due to pressures from the carriers. Take the US (ATT appears to be a common suspect here. I don't intend it to be) release of the Bold, why did it take so long? Maybe RIM (and even ATT) was not happy with the Bold's performance. Everyone should reread Kevin's post when he took his Roger's Bold to NY had a lot of problems with the ATT network.

Another good reason is 3G phones may not be as profitable in all markets. For some, a blackberry is just a great messaging device and media device. I'll admit that I don't always have the patience to surf from my curve. It's not strictly speed, but because the user experience is nothing special on any mobile device.

I myself am hoping for a "Curve 8950". A fictional new version of this device that has 3G and does it better than the bold or storm do.

 
 
Posted by neokuji Monday, Dec 29, 2008 1131 days ago

Right on!...Agreed!

 
 
Posted by Rembrandt33 Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 1069 days ago

I agree with you. I went from a Curve 8320 to HTC's Tilt only to find I didn't like it. It was too heavy, too bulky, and Windows Mobile is so slow compared to the Curve's OS that it cancels out the 3G. I find that the Windows Mobile Explorer is so slow to load pages that I'm not noticing a difference to my web experience. So now I have switched back to my beloved Blackberry Curve and find myself anxiously awaiting my 8900 in the mail.

As well, I find that I use my smart phones more for texting and receiving email then surfing the web. Leave surfing to a laptop where you can get a better experience anyway.

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

So.. will this be coming to VERIZON?!

 
 
Posted by JakeHurley Monday, Dec 08, 2008 1152 days ago

This phone uses GSM technology, and Verizon does not, they use CDMA tech. However, a few months down the road MAYBE, but Verizon just launched the current generation curve (Not 8900).

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Monday, Dec 08, 2008 1151 days ago

CDMA version of 8900 is called Niagara

 
 
Posted by NYCman18 Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 1073 days ago

hey Verizon. it's not known if Verizon Wireless will get the Blackberry Curve 8900 at this point since they released the Storm.

Though T-Mobile is the first Carrier to carry the BB Curve 8900. its different from Canada's Rogers 8900 since the back cover is a titanium color with a black front. ;-))

 
 
Posted by thecyclinghen Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

Lucky Canadians!!!! I'll switch from Verizon to AT&T the moment it comes out in the US!

 
 
Posted by neokuji Monday, Dec 29, 2008 1131 days ago

I understand wanting to switch from/leave verizon, ...don't like all those people following you around!?...want little more privacy in your life!?...well, the deathstar is no answer either!
instead switch to TMobile,(Tmobile will be releasing the Curve 8900 first(February 18))... get the same phone, and save bout $30-$40/month on service over at&t & verizon, not to mention TMobile's UMA capabilities.

 
 
Posted by berrycrack Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

Great review bla1ze

 
 
Posted by spektakle Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

The browser speed test you did Bold edge vs 8900 edge? How about a side by side of Bold 3G vs 8900 edge to see how much slower it is for everyday. I still can't decide which one to get.

 
 
Posted by Bla1ze Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

I did do some testing with the EDGE and 3G but I omitted it and got rid of the data, as I didn't think it was going to be a fair comparison.

But, from what I do remember for the most part the Javelin did perform better, with no java on the Bold it was ahead of the Javelin, but as soon as java got enabled the Bold started to choke, where the Javelin ate it up with no fuss really.

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

Fair or not, that's definitely a test we should do up and add in here. When it comes to the Bold vs. Curve 8900 decision, the overall speed a user will experience is an important buying factor.

 
 
Posted by Bla1ze Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

it shall be done!! hehe!! I'll get it up and add it as soon as I can.

 
 
Posted by Jabb Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

please do.....I was reading this review on my pearl and was impressed but now seeing it on the computer I realized you were comparing edge speeds on both devices instead of bold 3G vs edge on the 8900....useless when 3G is what will mostly be used on the bold

 
 
Posted by spektakle Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

Thanks for adding the 3G data, makes an interesting comparison to see if having 3G is that important for basic web browsing. Just makes the Bold vs 8900 that much harder to choose which one!

 
 
Posted by DonJoseofOrange Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

Wow, I'm very anxious to try one out once it hits the US. This is a great review Bla1ze, I love it, you did a great job. One thing I'd like to know, is there a light around the trackball, I assume since it's "atomic" black there is no light capabilities like the "pearl" white track ball on 8300 curves.
Can't wait to hear back in regards to battery life!

 
 
Posted by Bla1ze Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

Their is no light that shines through of course as it's black but the "outter ring" does light up dimly, great in the dark but still viewable in the daylight as well.

 
 
Posted by damatojf Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

I like this device, and I am glad it has reached North
America. Here is my issue--the US is the number one consumer of BlackBerry smart phones. Why don't they release their new
devices stateside first or at the same time as other
countries?

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 1150 days ago

Isn't RIM a Canadian company? :P

 
 
Posted by bambuco Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

GREAT REVIEW BLA1ZE!! If i wasn't one of the few waiting for the 8350i to come out and retire my 7100i, i'd most definetely be one of those eaglery waiting to pick up the 8900! Your review answer most all questions i had thought of between the Bold & 8900, the only thing left for me to do was to go out and physically hold each one. Keep up the good work, nice to have Christmas come early, huh? =D

 
 
Posted by manav Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

The new curve cannot be better in every aspect then the BOLD. I smell something fishy.

 
 
Posted by Bla1ze Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

Put one in your hands and make that determination yourself.

As stated in the review, my Bold will be my daily device, so that right there alone, indicates the 8900 is not all peaches and cream, although I am left to wonder why you would simply NOT believe the Javelin could be a better devices.

It's a EDGE devices...RIM knows EDGE...until the Bold the 8707v was the only UMTS/3G devices they have ever made, aside from CDMA but that's comparable to EDGE in longevity of manufacturing.

The Bold OS is plagued with bugs and while it's getting better over time, it's still not on par with the Javelin OS, but alas I could describe the issues all day, until ya place one in your hands and witness it for yourself, all I have to offer is my honest opinion on the device as a Bold and Javelin owner.

 
 
Posted by calculatorwatch Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

So if 3g is easier on CDMA, do you think they might make an 8900 with 3g on verizon wireless? I was all for the storm but now I'm wondering if a traditional form factor blackberry wouldn't be better. But I still want a better browser than the 8330, and I'd rather have a 3g version of this phone than the bold, mostly because this one is a lot sleeker and smaller.

 
 
Posted by ADberry Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

Nice review Bla1ze! The camera seems like such an improvement. I honestly wouldnt be able to tell whether the second picture (taken by the 8900) was from a phone or a 5 megapixel digicam. The prospect of getting a non-buggy OS will be a relief for those who plan to buy the first batch of the 8900s. I was going to wait before buying this device but now I am contemplating whether I should go for it as soon as its out...more reviews and discussion sessions will help me decide :)

 
 
Posted by neokuji Monday, Dec 29, 2008 1131 days ago

Agreed!

 
 
Posted by sonny21 Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

Only if this thing had 3g, then I would buy it for sure. I just hope it' true that they will come out with a 3g version of this.

 
 
Posted by jfa Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

Great review Blaize I am liking this device a lot. Hope ATT releases it soon or gets something out about pricing. I am off contract and looking for a new phone to take the place of the trep 760. This may be it.

 
 
Posted by BabiCakes Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

A+!! Great job!!

Your son is a cutie!! =o)

 
 
Posted by warwick Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

After all this Bold / Javelin / Storm anticipation, all that remains is for me to finally order an 8900 and a 16gb micro sd card.

Then cut myself off from Crackberry.com for a while, to keep my head free from magnums & curve 4Gs. That should last about a week or so.

 
 
Posted by neokuji Monday, Dec 29, 2008 1131 days ago

Impatient much? they haven't even released the 3G curve yet!...LoL...that will be some time now considering the limited coverage area of 3G presently.

 
 
Posted by Q1911 Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

Thanks for the review!

 
 
Posted by MapleSyrup Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

Being on Rogers and having the ability to get the 8900 before the USA makes me proud to be Canadian :P
Now I want one..
Sooooo badddddd..

 
 
Posted by Garz Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

Vey nice review Bla1ze! Considering you just bought it yesterday, you got that review up pretty quick.

 
 
Posted by fantom1023 Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

Great review B1aze!! I think this Curve will be a big let down because it doesn't have 3G!! I know I am disappointed to hear that it doesn't have it, and I don't understand why RIM would release another phone without 3G!! Just my opinion though. And don't get me wrong, I would take one of these babies in a heartbeat, if given the opportunity. Although it will be a while before I see one here in the US. Thanks again for the AWESOME review!! Keep Berrying everybody!! :P

 
 
Posted by neokuji Monday, Dec 29, 2008 1131 days ago

I agree the review was awesome!...but nothing else.
I am not concerned with mobileweb, and think this phone is great, regardless of 3G or not! In fact I will take two in a heartbeat this valentine's day(my b-day),for my friend and myself.So be it!
...February 18th release!!!!!!!

 
 
Posted by shorynot Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

Would everyone just take a few deep breaths about this lack of 3g that is keeping you from buying the device? Look at the timetable he has posted. Youre talking a matter of seconds when it comes to your average browsing. Are we all realy this spoiled to not buy an awesome device because its no lightning quick. He stated plain and simple in his review, DO NOT pass this up just because of the lack of 3g. It obviously has a better form factor, and more stable os. People crack me up with this. Thanks for the review, this phone is great. Just gonna be hard to operate it while constantly wiping the tears running down my face due to lack of 3g. BOO HOO

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

You do realize that there are some users that have a requirement to use the phone portion of their BB while still being able to receive emails.

I frequently use my BB to dial in to a conference call and someone will send an email during that call that I am not able to receive due to lack of 3G.

 
 
Posted by Anton Wahlman Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

This review states twice, and incorrectly, that the 8900 doesn't allow the user to talk and email at the same time, unlike the 9000. The 8900 is a UMA device (tunneling GSM and other cellular services through WiFi), which means that all packet-switched services come through flawlessly and immediately while you are on the phone, assuming you are connected over WiFi. Most people have WiFi at home and the office, where most people spend 80% or so of their time. The 9000 has not yet been fitted with UMA software (expected in July/August 2009), so if you are in a location where there is no cellular service (such as a basement office or in a remote/rural/boat location), but there is wifi, the 8900 will not only give you full GSM coverage (through UMA), but also simultaneous voice/data coverage. The carriers offering this are Rogers/Canada, T-Mobile/USA and Orange/Europe. If you're on AT&T, Vodafone, et.al. - you're out of luck.

Just another point where the 8900 is vastly superior to the 9000 -- at least until UMA gateways and software have been upgraded to be compatible with HSPA, some time around July/August 2009.

Please correct the review to reflect the fixing of the inaccurate statements regarding simultaneous voice/data.

 
 
Posted by Bla1ze Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1153 days ago

I made no mention of the UMA service being enabled on the device simply because I didn't have it, therefore no reference point or observations that could be stated or even the fact I had intentions to do so and under no way are users OBLIGATED to choose UMA either, it's not pushed by the carrier. With the exclusion of UMA at this point, your comment alone shall stand in it's own right as a correction and while the assumption may be there in your statements that WiFi is pretty much available everywhere, this is not the case, I still know plenty of people and plenty of areas around me where WiFi is not even an option, if I can't go to the 5 of my friends house and have WiFi in at least 3 of those places, WiFi is not as common as some may think.

I appreciate your comments and taking the time to even mention the UMA.

 
 
Posted by jperinger Sunday, Dec 07, 2008 1152 days ago

I guess Wi-fi is to Canada what snow is to Florida? I bought my 8320 specifically for UMA and after two handsets, three OS, three different wireless routers (including a T-Mobile one) I have NEVER had a day of UMA without a dropped call, so don't feel left out. On the other hand, I NEVER miss an incoming call, e-mail, text, etc., so there are good points to UMA. Does Canada have DSL? Cable? Here in NYC we have central heat, too. ;)

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Monday, Dec 08, 2008 1152 days ago

Both GSM providers Rogers and Fido offer UMA/Wifi calling in Canada.
You just need a compatible device like this Blackberry or Nokia 8301 or something.

 
 
Posted by Anton Wahlman Monday, Dec 08, 2008 1152 days ago

1. 100% of people control their own WiFi at home. Most people spend a significant percentage of their time at home. So that's not a problem.

2. A high percentage of people have access to WiFi at their office. So that's not a problem.

3. That leaves those who are driving in cars (perhaps 10% of your daily cycle?), those in the forest picking berries (no pun intended), or those taking a walk around town. That's probably 20% of the average person's time.

Bottom line: Most people can be on UMA/WiFi in their own home and in their office probably 80% of the hours of the day. Thus UMA is critical to the user experience, in part because of it allowing simultaneous voice/data.

 
 
Posted by siha Monday, Dec 08, 2008 1152 days ago

I don't know about you guys, but my office has a secure network and they don't let just anything connect to it...and UMA if I remember correctly requires a carrier's router doesnt it?...even if it doesn't most companies i know don't let the berry acces Wi-Fi if they're paying for your data anyways

 
 
Posted by Anton Wahlman Monday, Dec 08, 2008 1152 days ago

No, UMA works over pretty much ANY wifi router. It does not need to be provided by the carrier. I haven't failed with any particular kind of router yet. I get it to work on all sorts of routers in different homes and offices: Linksys, Netgear, D-Link, Belkin, 2Wire and many others. The same rule as laptop applies: Unless it's simply unsecured, you just need the password to get in. Very simple. If I can get in with my laptop, I can get in with my UMA Blackberry.