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Posted by Valace2 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

The webkit can not leak :(. That kind of sucks. An a new device will be running OS 6.0 so no way to know when existing devices will get it :(.

sad very very sad.

 
 
Posted by BBThemes Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

dont forget that it will be out on the 9700 though, when they showed the webkit browser they said `theres a reason its on the 9700` which says to me OS6 is coming to 256mb devices (unless it was a bold 9650 it was being shown on lol)

also to add, .3 he actually says `trackpad and touch` (o so e said trackpod but we know what he means), does this mean no 6 for the 8900 and tour 9630?

 
 
Posted by AgTitan06 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

Can't wait to see the OS 6.0 and webkit browser!!!

 
 
Posted by savjr Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

Way to go RIM always thinking forward.

 
 
Posted by BeLogical Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

"you won't be able to install the WebKit browser on OS 5.0 for example"

boooooooooooooooooooooooo!

 
 
Posted by Valace2 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

+1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.3

 
 
Posted by evilhunter101 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

That .3 imo makes the big difference :( :P :D

 
 
Posted by Valace2 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

ROFL. an yes it does make all the difference :)

 
 
Posted by evilhunter101 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

I literally laughed out loud when I saw the .3, thanks for making me look dumb in front of my classmates! *thumbs up*

 
 
Posted by Valace2 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

Gotta have something to laugh about WES 2010 Day 1 was a bust as far as I am concerned. Hopefully they decided to get the obvious out of the way on Day 1 and Day 2 will be the fashizzle.

Note to RIM: Give us a VIDEO of OS 6.0 no lousy stills. An make sure its on an existing device. Seeing OS 6.0 on some future device will do nothing for me, at least make sure its on the 9650!

 
 
Posted by evilhunter101 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

I agree, and what a great laugh it was. I hope your thinking is correct, otherwise the boards are going to light up with "RIM's going down" threads.

Not only do I want a video, but I want stills of every 6.0 capable device running it and at least one 6.0 equipped device present for Kevin to mess with on camera. Am I asking too much?

 
 
Posted by Valace2 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

betcha he is foaming at the mouth to get his hands on a device with OS 6.0 on it. If he hasn't already ;).

BTW this has to be the longest running reply in the history of CB :)

 
 
Posted by evilhunter101 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

I'm sure he's already seen one if not got to actually use one. But we really need to get one on video.

I know, we won't ever get beat either lol

 
 
Posted by ordigas Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

Ha! That ".3" was hilarious!

 
 
Posted by DoinItWright Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

So in other words ... Prolly only the 256 mB flash devices in-market will be able to run it. That's my bet. Good thing I have a 9550!

 
 
Posted by nove Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

8900 user here with fingers crossed...

 
 
Posted by JasW Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

I had a Windows ME computer that was "able to run" XP.

It wasn't pretty.

 
 
Posted by Valace2 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

when the 9550 came out. Roll 5.0 out a week before the Storm 2 comes out. Hope to hell this leaks because VZW won't push it anytime soon.

 
 
Posted by infinus Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

Wow,
That's kind of cool
Webkit rendering engine....
It means you can write widgets (here a block of javascript+java+html)

RIM's getting new platform for programmers.

Cool.....

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

not sure that's the conclusion that can be drawn just yet. and Mike Kirkup from RIM told us that wouldn't be the case with webkit... not a new dev platform. 

 
 
Posted by scorpioz Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

i think it basically applies to any applications that are using web content. Example html emails will render with the new webkit engine, any other applications that using the render html pages inside the applications will also automatically be using the webkit rendering.

 
 
Posted by mjbesen310 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

im excited!

 
 
Posted by anastasiophan Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

Those pissed that WebKit is not standalone may be missing the big picture. Sure it sucks if your phone doesn't get 6.0 (I highly doubt they will keep the Storm 2 from getting 6.0), but you have to look at the bright side. This browser will interact with the OS and apps because it will be completely integrated into the system. That is great news!

 
 
Posted by Valace2 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

for a company like VZW with a horrendous track record for updating phones to get around to releasing it. I would expect we will see an update to OS 6.0 around a week before the S3 comes out.

An with the snails pace we have seen OS's leak out for the 9550 I don't have much hope of seeing 6.0 before September or October.

If the Bold could run it I bet we would see a leak for that device before the 9550.

 
 
Posted by Skeevecr Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

They said q3 for os6 so that's July - September for it to actually show up on any device, upgrades from os5 devices are bound to be a lot slower than that since both rim and the carriers will be far more interested in selling new devices than upgrading old ones.

 
 
Posted by Valace2 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

got that right.

 
 
Posted by Skeevecr Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

To be fair to them though, people should be buying their handsets for what they do now and not based on what it might do in x months down the line.

 
 
Posted by Valace2 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

an carriers shouldn't lock you into a 2 year contract when new devices roll out every 9 months to a year. An you shouldn't have to sell a kidney to afford a device off contract.

 
 
Posted by Skeevecr Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

You don't actually have to buy every new device and if rim continue to increase the frequency of hardware releases you wouldn't have a hope in hell of doing so.

 
 
Posted by Valace2 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

That my and many others hopes were that RIM would get off their butts and start to improve the devices that they have released in the last year.

I understand the need to sign up more users by offering better options, but what about the consumers like myself who have stuck by them when there were better options out there? We are to be left out in the cold?

As I have said before Google has been working on getting the newer Android OS on the G1, if they can get their newer software on an almost 2 year old device why can't RIM get out an improved OS to the customers who have purchased a totally new device in the last year.

As I have also said shame on us, buyer beware we know what it can do when it comes out, yes we didn't need to buy it, and yes we can shell out the 600 bucks to buy a new device when it too comes out.

If we are going to face that kind of tough love then I would rather take my business elsewhere.

 
 
Posted by evilhunter101 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

the only reason Google can get the Android OS on the G1 is because the G1 has enough RAM and ROM for it, as well as the proper configuration Lets face it, if RIM had put large enough amounts of RAM on its early models we wouldn't have to question if older devices could run the OS, rather it'd be a question of when.

I would be scared to see the likes of OS 6 on say the Storm1, it sucks as is with OS 5, it could never run OS 6 properly. Not to mention the G1 isn't limited in the same way in app storage. If it was forced to use its 196 of RAM for app and OS storage AND to run said apps and OS it most definitely wouldn't have the newer Android OS. Instead it gets to use its 256 ROM to store such things, and its 196 RAM to run them.

Apples and oranges my friend.

 
 
Posted by JasW Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

What about potential 9650 buyers? That phone is going on sale a month before the start of Q3. If I were looking to buy the 9650, that would be the first question on my mind -- when will it get 6.0?

 
 
Posted by Valace2 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

I agree 100% if you are planning to pick up the 9650 you should have some sort of idea on when an advanced version of the software and (at least to RIM) revolutionary browser will be available.

Shouldn't need to do any guesswork here, and looking at the carriers launching the 9650, neither has a great track record of releasing updates.

 
 
Posted by skyboxer Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

It still sounds to me like the best way to get OS6 is to buy a device that launches with it. Unfortunately that may not be a device you want, such as the 9670. I may just pick up a 9650 instead and wait for somethin to freeze over so I can get the OS.

 
 
Posted by Skeevecr Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

That's always going to be thebest way to get a new os from any of the handset makers, not just a rim thing.

I wonder what will be the first device to launch with os6, I guess it will be the slider since that leaked before this new clamshell.

 
 
Posted by wojtas25 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

I hope they will give a chance for Bold 9000 and give OS 6.0 or at least WebKit taste (?).

 
 
Posted by Skeevecr Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

Doesn't the 9000 only have 128mb of memory, making it a very unlikely candidate for an upgrade.

 
 
Posted by cenetti Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

Well, they better make me happy with my 9550. We have new iphone coming, Windows 7 phones end of this year, many new android phones....

Competition is gooood.

 
 
Posted by johnnyboyya Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

haha im pretty sure seanren can do something about the webkit on OS 5.0

 
 
Posted by Valace2 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

Unless he can take apart RIM's OS's we will be out of luck. This Webkit will be an integrated part of the OS, not a few .cod files to cut an paste.

 
 
Posted by Nicketmaster Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

Sounds interesting. I'm not getting too excited or too pessimistic until I have some hands-on with it.

 
 
Posted by ghostnyc Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

C'mon seriously? A million downloads per day? Are these UNIQUE downloads or repeative downloads due to signal loss or other issue that requires you to download app more than once.

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

good question.  heading to an interview shortly and plan to dig into that number....

 
 
Posted by garment69 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

I call shenanigans on that claim.

 
 
Posted by twokansamm Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

Yeah.. shenanigans, indeed.

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

Just had an interview.... they re-confirmed the one million downloads a day happening out of app world.  apparently 20 million active users (people who have downloaded at least one free app).

 
 
Posted by Valace2 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

thats still pretty impressive. Everyone talks about the Itunes App Store and the Android Marketplace, but App World is really starting to come into its own. Wasn't a fan, but it has grown on me.

 
 
Posted by Skeevecr Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

The main issues for app world atm seem to be that it isn't a standard app on every blackberry and the limited payment options, judging by a post on here or another blog then the latter is due to be fixed with the next version and you have to assume that rim will eventually force all the carriers to take app world and not have it as optional.

 
 
Posted by evilhunter101 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

but only as a global figure lmao... Talk about padding the stats!

 
 
Posted by garment69 Monday, Apr 26, 2010 667 days ago

How many apps are there in the appworld? 15k? 365,000,000 per year???? Yeah.................no.