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Posted by autoprime Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

i'll be damned if im paying a monthly fee for RIM service AND have to look at ads. this better be for some discounted service.

 
 
Posted by dax_gordon Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

This better be for a free or 50% discount service!

 
 
Posted by wdfly Tuesday, Feb 23, 2010 718 days ago

if RIM does this then they will see their user base vote with their feet and wallets. we will mass exodus to another device i guarantee it. if they want to offer a reduced rate or free data service and implement this then that would be fine as we can choose but if they start putting ads in emails that we pay for good bye and good riddance!

 
 
Posted by Graffixnyc Tuesday, Feb 23, 2010 718 days ago

I agree.. I love love love my blackberry. I have vowed never to use another device.. Tmo just raised the price on their BB data plans (not for me because I was grandfathered and fought to keep my price when I upgraded to the 9700) so if I have to start seeing ads in my email they better either 1. Make the BB plan completely free (think of when there was free ad based dial up internet juno, netzero) or 2. Give a huge discount on the service.. But if that doesn't happen then I will def jump ship and get a droid

 
 
Posted by Tranerek Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

Ads in my e-mail..?

 
 
Posted by jorGeorge Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

If true, see ya later RIM.

 
 
Posted by i7guy Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

It's patents like this that make me want a Windows Mobile device. Although if they didn't file for the patent, someone would. I'm actually surprised this is patentable, it seems any internet content is ripe for harvesting the words or pictures and delivering ad content.

 
 
Posted by oran0007 Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

This is a good point. RIM stands to make money on this even if they never implement it. Someone may pay them for the rights if the patent goes through.

Now, as I am not currently a business owner or manager, I don't mind too much. However, I would likely leave RIM products if the ads didn't come along with discounted or free data service from my provider. But for those business owners and managers making phone choices for their business, they would almost certainly jump ship. I can see providers charging extra for the ad-free BIS/BES. Of course, they could plan on using BES as the separator anyway. In which case, I refuse to pay for BES just to not have ads in my email.

I hope this is simply RIM planning on making money off of people wanting to use their idea, because I really would not like having to use a different company's smartphone.

 
 
Posted by ntborg Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

If advertising gets in my email... The BlackBerry is gone!!!!

 
 
Posted by buritoslicer Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

I hope this one doesn't see the light of day. I hate ads in my emails!

 
 
Posted by miller7796 Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

As with the comments above, I'm already paying for the service. I would only expect ads in my email if RIM/my carrier were going to provide free data.

 
 
Posted by jlb21 Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

I would like to say that if this happens I am gone, but I just don't know if I could do that.

I hope they applied just to keep someone else from doing so.......

 
 
Posted by danarc Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

If this ever happened then see you later RIM and hello to apple again or Android. NO one reaLly wants ads in their email and I will wait and see what does with this.

 
 
Posted by dngrct Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

…… but if this is true, i may have to breach the iphone//android barrier

 
 
Posted by Big Dawg 23 Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

Do yourself a favor and go now. I just moved to a Droid after issues with the Storm and Tour. So far the best thing I ever did. I now get exchange, much faster phone and also 2 minute shutdown and restart not 10-15. Best of all a server can't wipe out my messenger and emails.

 
 
Posted by davecbb8330 Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

No doubt. I'm out next Monday. 6 outages since september did it for me.

 
 
Posted by Big Dawg 23 Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

The outages was also a factor in leaving. You wont miss it.

 
 
Posted by JtothaR Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

I switched to the Nexus One. Never thought i'd find another platform. Been a RIM user since the 7290>8700>8820>8900>9000>9700. Android works great and you can even push all of your other email accounts through the gmail service.

 
 
Posted by dhyde79 Tuesday, Feb 23, 2010 719 days ago

that only works if you're willing to let google have access to them. I'm not an uber-paranoid type but, I don't like letting a company that publically admits to creating databases formed from every user in the world's data that google touches and shares those databases with anyone that pays the right price like they are with the US government....I like that rim's servers are considered "hands off" for any government, which is why certain countries have taken so long for blackberry devices to be allowed by their governments....also, I spend WAY too much time fixing either the droid or the eris to even consider getting one of them....not to mention the aversion to buying a motorola slider when motorola has a bad track record with sliders and their screens staying functional in the long run and similar issues with HTC devices...though most HTC issues have been WinMo related.....

if I leave BB it'll be to apple...since I'm already a mac user anyway....

 
 
Posted by kentusmc Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

Why the hell do I want someone to ad more ads to the spam I already get, don't do it rim!

 
 
Posted by webmastir Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

just another reason i can't wait to go Android later this year!

 
 
Posted by blak8830 Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

If emails start having customized ads, no more BB for me!

 
 
Posted by BBThemes Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

..does this mean free BIS? googlemail is free cos of the ads, so as we pay and have no ads, who`s up for free BIS but with ads? (paying and ads WILL lose RIM its consumer market share)

but i doubt as said this will see the light of day, someone will come to their senses before they alienate the market

 
 
Posted by johnnymac Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

really - just calm down with the histrionics. There's no indication that we'll see any of this in our lifetimes, so just chill.

Once you start to see ads in your email, then you can freak. For now, take a xanax and breathe.

 
 
Posted by sk8er_tor Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

lol and agreed.

 
 
Posted by Sosai X Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

...and that's because RIM reads these message boards, and we WANT them to see our collective outrage over the mere THOUGHT that they'd consider allowing ads in our e-mails.

This way, such nonsense never sees the light of day.

RIM, I love your products and service but count me among the many Crackberry loyalists who will high-tail it to your competition and not look back if you try to put ads into my e-mails.

 
 
Posted by Propa Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

i thought id never see the day, but if this is forced, i will leave BB, i refuse to pay the extra $29.99 per month to get addd...i've been a loyal BB user since the 8300 release back in 2007 but i will ditch BB to avoid this

 
 
Posted by whitebread_b Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

If RIM even tries to insert an ad into email delivered to my device I'll drop them SO quickly........ I swear I will NEVER touch a RIM-made device ever again.

 
 
Posted by notavailable12345 Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

I LOVE blackberry but would leave them instantly if they start including any form of ad's. I really really hope this is not true.

 
 
Posted by bigcrownvic99 Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

i'm with ever one else!!!!!!! if the e-mail's get ad's then rim better give there service for free if not they better not do it or they will be a broke bb maker's!!!!!!!!!!!! =(
t-mobile is sending me a window mobile device so maybe it's time for me to move away from rim!!! i don't want to but i got a feeling there going to start!!! i guess it's time to move on i love bb's but i don't love ad's!!!!

 
 
Posted by joefalco Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

I wonder if they will truncate long ads?

 
 
Posted by jorGeorge Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

LOL! Good stuff...

 
 
Posted by manimsoblack Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

Depending on how annoying it is I may switch to Android.

 
 
Posted by mvm549 Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

f that

 
 
Posted by R1cE Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

Blackberry email had better be free and come without the data plan ththen.

 
 
Posted by notavailable12345 Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

We love blackberry for the beauty of its email system combined with its very tight security implementing any system that reads your emails and attaches ad's based on keywords is beyond hideous and will in my opinion be a disastrous mistake from RIM.

 
 
Posted by joski Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

You're wasting your time with the knee-jerk reactions. This may not even go through. Do you think a company as successful and intelligent as RIM would do something as silly as this? And even if they do, do you think it would be an inconvenience? We don't really know what the intent is even IF this happens.

 
 
Posted by notavailable12345 Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

This is sometimes how companies test the water and gage customer reaction. So it can be also be good to send a clear message to RIM that this would be unacceptable.

 
 
Posted by thevendor Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

The ONLY way I see this patent is going to see light of day is RIM decides to provide their push email services free or at a significant discount.
If they do this, that puts the pressure on others (apple, palm , google etc...) to have a ad service for free or discount.

RIM has the patent so what to do if you are not RIM.

You have to figure that there are a lot of consumer users/buyers who would like to have a free or less expensive monthly service fee option...even with ads. Notice all the pimple faced kids walking around with bb's. Their parents would probably jump for joy if they could reduce the monthly fee for their nonessential teenage emails.

Smart move by RIM.

 
 
Posted by netposer Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

Gmail has been doing this since day 1. But since I'm on a BES along with BIS for my personal account I am not too worried.

 
 
Posted by danarc Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

Gmail and all the other webmails are free so its expected that there will be some form of ads however, we are paying for the bis and therefore should not have ads. I can however see Rim having some sort of new service(data) that is free with ads associated with it. This however, will be understandable to many people and myself.

 
 
Posted by netposer Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

Technically I guess "we" are paying for BIS but if they throw in ads then maybe the data plans will be cheaper? Haha, I doubt they will drop data prices.

I'm still waiting for Family Data Plans. Paying $30 for each person is horrible.

 
 
Posted by 1magine Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

CHILLAX PEEPS. This is more likely than not a move to actually prvent anyone from doing this. If RIM patents this, then anyone wishing to hide this tech in an application will be in breach of RIMs patent. Trust me, RIM is focused on using less provider bandwidth not more. They want to speed up the device, not slow it down. My best business guess, is this is preventative in nature.

 
 
Posted by eklisiewicz Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

I echo the sentiments here. If ads appear, the BB is history.

 
 
Posted by ulmerj79 Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

Id go back to WinMo in a heartbeat if they started pushing ads to our phones. Hopefully this will never see the light of day.

 
 
Posted by Q-fugee Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

This is clearly a "defensive" patent; I wouldn't worry too much about seeing ads in your email ever.

RIM is under a lot of pressure from businesses who don't want to pay the double blackberry tax: once when they license the server and again every month when they pay the carrier for BES. They're already responding by giving away a limited server to small business but you still have to pay your carrier an extra BB tax.

BIS users are increasingly balking at paying 20 bucks a month on top of a carrier plan when they can get a gmail account and a google phone or shell out less for Mobile Me.

This gives RIM an escape hatch if the market goes this way. If users continue to happily pony up in record numbers, you'll never see this. Even if they do implement it, those of you willing to pay the BB tax wouldn't see it.

The primary thing this patent does is take the legs out from under Google. Google always gives product away until they can monetize it with ads later. They're giving away gmail to the handset now. If they can't monetize it later they're going to be pinched.

That does two things to Google: messes up their future ROI, and messes up their current willingness to promote Android/Gmail. If they can't rake in ad dollars later, they're not going to want too big a user base now. Messing up their product plans will also slow the rollout of any competing features until they can rejigger their ROI estimates.

This patent is a pretty good move on their part without ever having to implement it. The only problem will come when Google claims prior art or Apple or MS just ignores it and figures a court fight would be years away.

--Q-fugee

 
 
Posted by mlynchmob16 Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

If this happens, where I have to pay $30/month and have ads I will switch to the new windows 7 series or android. It would be sweet to have ads with a free data service or only $15. I think it would make blackberries even more mainstream because everybody I know that doesn't have a smart phone, doesn't have one because of the data charge. It is a neat idea for waiving the data charge, but not otherwise.

 
 
Posted by mythdraug Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

Any chance this is a defensive troll patent? RIM saw that google was going to be sending email directly to handheld devices... RIM then made the logical leap that google would finance this delivery by injecting advertising into the stream.

(Shrug)

Just a thought...

 
 
Posted by Pierrohhh Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

i really hope for them that this was filed and wont be used on bb devices.... people want user friendly no spam. and what are they working on while we clearly need a new browser and UI ? spamming my mailbox. great job guys..... seriously.....

 
 
Posted by ChuckH0308 Monday, Feb 22, 2010 719 days ago

This would definitely be the final straw for me. I suppose the emails will still be truncated too. RIM surely has to realize that ads in email that we already pay for would cost them a HUGE amount of customers, no? Or are they really that dumb? Wait, don't answer...