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Posted by mldenniscb Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

I have lived with a crappy trackball for long enough. Why couldn't the trackball work as good as it does on my 8330?

--M

 
 
Posted by mr26ss Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

I'm waiting for the Bold9650 from Verizon so badly...

 
 
Posted by lovelabsX3 Friday, Jun 11, 2010 611 days ago

As of June 10, Verizon has the Bold available.

 
 
Posted by sweetlittlehugs Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

Thank you! I wanted an actual review before I ordered this today. Yhis seems to be the first one.

 
 
Posted by Mr. Orange 645 Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

Wheres the leather battery cover which has always been representative of a Bold device?

 
 
Posted by sweetlittlehugs Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

Its a tour pretending to be a bold.

 
 
Posted by ifhts Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

It's actually a Bold.

More specifically, the 9650 is an inanimate object. It can't pretend to be anything. It simply is the next step in RIM's evolution of the Bold.

Why waste your energy hating?

 
 
Posted by sweetlittlehugs Thursday, May 20, 2010 632 days ago

I'm not hating, I ordered it. I'm pointing out that it doesn't look like the other bolds because its actually a tour 2, renamed bold.

 
 
Posted by ifhts Friday, May 21, 2010 632 days ago

So what is your assessment of the 9700? It looks nothing like the 9000, yet it is curiously called a Bold.

(Rhetorical question -- don't bother answering.)

 
 
Posted by sweetlittlehugs Sunday, May 23, 2010 629 days ago

Lol you think I'm making it up? Look through the posts, a lot of people know its the tour 2 renamed bold.

 
 
Posted by Jonneh Sunday, May 23, 2010 629 days ago

Before you leave another comment like the previous ones, do a search in your favorite search engine. This was originally called the "Tour 2", until RIM renamed it and gave it the "Bold" branding. That's what she's trying to point out.

 
 
Posted by sweetlittlehugs Monday, May 24, 2010 629 days ago

Thank you

 
 
Posted by Laxie Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

I'm using a used 8830 and it was great when I got it last August but I outgrew it in about a month. A friend was kind enough to give it to me when she upgraded her phone so I could try a BB. Needless to say I'm addicted.

Since we're in baseball season, I'm dying because MLB doesn't support the 8830 for audio games this year. So I need the Bold 9650 now! :-)

The only thing I'll miss about my 8830 is the beautiful red color. I'm not looking forward to a boring black BB.

Come on Verizon! Get it out there now.

 
 
Posted by mi_canuck Friday, May 21, 2010 632 days ago

You'll be waiting forever at this rate... seems like vzw isn't approving it because it's not passing their LAME-O software tests... Meanwhile us Sprint users are cruising at full speed with our 9650s!! :D

 
 
Posted by sweetlittlehugs Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

Why is there only 309 megs of memory, I thought it would be over 400.

 
 
Posted by katiepea Thursday, May 20, 2010 632 days ago

309 is plenty, blackberry doesn't have enough developer support to fill that up anyway.

 
 
Posted by mi_canuck Friday, May 21, 2010 632 days ago

Installed .692 on my 9650 that I received today... before re-installing my apps (from my 9700), I had 343MB free... with my apps installed, now at 324MB.... dude, compared with all other BB's... even 309MB is PLENTY!!!! ;)

 
 
Posted by sweetlittlehugs Friday, May 21, 2010 632 days ago

I guess my question is, is the os taking up 200 megs of memory?

 
 
Posted by inthefresh Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

I have a lowly 8330. I've been waiting for this phone to drop forever now...and now that it still hasn't (for verizon) I'm not interested.

I'm now waiting for the bb slider to come out on Verizon. I know (reportedly) the slider is GSM so I guess I'll be waiting pretty much until hell freezes over. Lucky me.

 
 
Posted by ninefall Thursday, May 20, 2010 632 days ago

Im with you. Ive been waiting so long Im no longer excited about this phone at all. Newer and better things are always coming, but the delay of this phone shrunk the gap between its release, and something a lot better. My 8330 is running just fine for now.

 
 
Posted by experiment626 Thursday, May 20, 2010 632 days ago

How dare you call the 8330 "Lowly',LOL. It's still better than every BB other than the BOLD series and at least 75% of the smartphones on the market.

 
 
Posted by BazzBro Thursday, May 20, 2010 632 days ago

There is no way that your 8330 is better than my 9700 or any other Bold! Upgrade for a week and then try to go back to your 8300!

 
 
Posted by ifhts Friday, May 21, 2010 632 days ago

Read the comment again, kid. The author explicitly states that the 8330 is better than any other BlackBerry EXCEPT the Bold.

Cool it.

 
 
Posted by Blechtman Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 612 days ago

I wouldn't call less than 1 year from the release of the Tour "forever". In fact, there are several rants all over this website about how Tour users feel ripped off because of how soon this device came out, blah blah blah. Feel free to rake me over the coals but there is just no pleasing some people. By the time the 9800 comes out there'll be another BB in the rumor-mill that's supposedly so much better. Secretly I'm waiting for this device in white, but w/e.

 
 
Posted by veii Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

Why haven't they put the proper 1500 mah battery in this? The same one the other Bolds have.

 
 
Posted by limegrass69 Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

Because it's really a Tour!

 
 
Posted by shimojunk Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

I have the 8330 and it has hands down been the best phone I've owned (even thought I haven't owned any other smartphone). It does what I need it to: make calls with great reception (although the voice quality isn't the best), long battery life, push email, bbm, jivetalk, half-arse facebook app, yelp, googlemaps, mp3s. The phone is going strong and hasn't had any problems (ok, it's slowed down significantly with no memory left LOL).

I think I'm going to hold off upgrading until I can see 9650 WITH OS 6 in action. If it can run it smoothly and is worth moving from OS 4.X then I'll buy the 9650.

Until then I'm staying with my trusty workhorse.

 
 
Posted by dreedy1 Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

Got tired of RIM going back and forth and now Big Red hasn't even aknowledged the exsistance of the 9650 yet...ordered the Incredible this morning. Sorry RIM!

 
 
Posted by jerry12 Monday, May 24, 2010 629 days ago

verizon has stuff in their stores for the 9650 so it must be coming soon.

 
 
Posted by robinater4223 Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

can sprint make calls through wifi?

 
 
Posted by mystic205 Thursday, May 20, 2010 632 days ago

Sprint cannot make calls via wifi, neither can verizon nor ATT.. TMO, using UMA technology can do this tho.

 
 
Posted by XWolf Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

So, this may be the replacement for my Bold 9700... In 2 years (new contract), by which time it should be on BB 6. Actually I might recommend my missus gets this when her crappy Samsung comes up for upgrade next year.

 
 
Posted by Fredstar Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

I was never really a fan of the tour, body wise, it was a monster phone when it came out tho.. but i know on real difference was going to be the trackpad, and the flash. The bold 9700's battery i think has to be one of my best yet. Ive had it for a few months now and it amazes me every time. I think that batt should be standard. Idk wat rim has up their sleeve with the competition. That evo is looking crazy. Not crazy enuff for me to go & buy it, but its 4G... mmm.. I got faith in rim tho. i do love my BB. Good Luck.

 
 
Posted by techgeek32 Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

Great device. The trackpad does not work with all 3rd party apps so be aware of that. I am also using Office 2010 Beta and it is not compatible with Outlook 2010 for whatever reason. All of my other devices: Palm Pre, Android, Windows Mobile all still sync with it. I am sure there will be an update to BDM to allow it but for right now if you are using Outlook 2010 you will need to remove and use Outlook 2007.

 
 
Posted by rich95838 Thursday, May 20, 2010 632 days ago

Step up to the plate and remove the beta of Office 2010. Maybe 2010 RTM will work. I have 2010 RTM but not a BB 9650 yet :)

 
 
Posted by chewie1988 Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

I got the tour a few months back for Verizon. I finally got tired of all the "well it is soon" "April release date" No now "May release date". June is almost here and Verizon still has no announcement of when it is coming.
I love the tour but would have really loved the extra features on the 9650. I guess after the tours are gone I can turn it in on insurance.

 
 
Posted by visortgw Thursday, May 20, 2010 632 days ago

Unfortunately, there will be "plenty" of Tour refurbs out there for months/years to come to use as insurance replacements.

 
 
Posted by jallot Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

there seems to be a lot of speculation about the processor in the 9650.

Can Crackberry finally put this to rest and provide us with definitive details?

 
 
Posted by gatorboi352 Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

See, I just dont get that. Sure, it's got 512MB. But I don't get the appeal of a non touchscreen phone in this day and age. To me, hands down the Storm2 is the best Blackberry out. I, and ever other S2 owner I know, type just as fast and just as fine on them as any keyboard enabled device.

Hell, the Storm series of phones has single handedly made RIM and Blackberry relevent to the rest of the world, much to the chagrin of BB elitists that frequent this site.

I look at this phone, and all non-Storm BBs and think "look at all that real estate wasted on NOT touchscreen."

Flame away....

 
 
Posted by gatorboi352 Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

While slick in nature and at first use, I do not liek this much more than the trackball as the trackpad piece itself will become loose and almost "Storm 1 touchscreen" like in nature where sliding in any direction with any kind of moderate force will cause the piece to shift. Go play with any trackpad enabled device at any demo station in any cell phone store and you'll see what I mean.

 
 
Posted by Theot Friday, May 21, 2010 632 days ago

I've had a Sprint Curve 8530 for 3 months now and my trackpad isn't loose at all. I think the demo phones people just push to damn hard on them.

 
 
Posted by StormJH1 Thursday, May 20, 2010 632 days ago

Storm vs. Bold/Tour is kind of apples to oranges...if you HAVE to have a touchscreen, then I supposed you'd prefer Storm2, but I think the Storm detractors would point out that you'd actually be better off getting a touchscreen device that isn't a Blackberry for around the same money. The Bold 9700 (and now the 9650) at least offers something different than other phones on the market...the front-face QWERTY and trackpad make it feel kinda like a mini-laptop as much as a phone, and a lot of people like that.

As a 9700 owner, though, it's tough for me to treat this like a serious "new device". It looks almost exactly the same as the Bold 9700 I already have, with a different number on it. Other than the fact that people have become loyal to their particular device name ("Curve", "Tour", "Storm", "Bold", etc.), RIM isn't really doing anything to improve their products other than creating the illusion of progress by advancing like 4 or 5 lines of phones separately.

RIM only really needs like 3 different phones...they need something like a Curve that offers entry-level data plans, they need a Bold/Tour that is their top-end business/communication device, and they need to work on a touchscreen device that focuses more on younger users and casual purposes. We saw an emphasis on the latter mission with the OS 6.0 video, but I haven't seen the hardware to support it yet. RIM is wasting its time and resources developing 5 different models and having a new release every 4 months or so that really doesn't add anything to whatever they already have out.

 
 
Posted by gatorboi352 Thursday, May 20, 2010 632 days ago

I totally agree. There are way too many BBs, and versions of BBs out. I actually had to google 9560 vs. 9530 the other day just to figure out what the heck is the point of it!

However I must argue the notion that Storm and touchscreen devices in general are, or should be, geared towards a "younger" more "casual" demograph. I conduct business as usual just fine from my Storm 2 on the regular.

 
 
Posted by StormJH1 Thursday, May 20, 2010 632 days ago

I misspoke about the Storm/younger demographic. There are plenty of professionals who use the Storm2 and probably like it, and it did serve a need for people accustomed to using the BB operating system, but who were looking for a different input functionality.

My point was simply that if they expect to pull in a more casual/younger demographic in the future, they'll need to make devices that at least have the touchscreen option b/c that's become somewhat of an industry standard for mobile smartphones, popularized by the iPhone.

I think it would be a fool's errand to focus squarely on making something "cooler" than the iPhone or Droid, b/c half the time, people just are buying what their friends have anyway. But it just seems like a dream scenario for RIM would be a 3-pronged attack:

(1) A "Curve" budget smartphone offering a gateway to people who've never used smartphones before, and just want basic email, mobile browsing, SMS, etc. Even better would be if they could work out a $15/month budget data plan for people who don't need all the functionality of a Bold or iPhone.

(2) A "Bold" line (which probably remains the focal point of their business) focused on professional use, and emphasizing communication and reliability. Something like the 9800 "slider" where you add a touchscreen, but retain the QWERTY (and also the trackpad) would be an example of this.

(3) A new line of touch devices, w/ or w/o a QWERTY keyboard with a touchscreen that offers something like "pinch to zoom" or (hey!) something new that actually enhances web browsing and use of media. It's a little far fetched to expect this device to compete with iPhone and Droid, but there might be some overlap with the more tech-saavy business users, and it least offers BB users the option to stay with RIM but use something that doesn't feel like a glorified PDA.

Three phones--that's it. If you want to offer the "Curve" in hot pink with sparkles and tassles to help sell phones, that's fine, but I just feel like they're so busy tweaking existing hardware to move units that they're losing sight of the bigger picture.

 
 
Posted by Vurhan Friday, May 21, 2010 632 days ago

My only hope is that the Bold 9800 has SurePress. Without it, the smartphone world would be a passive screen place.

The other thing is how I wished RIM'd gone and call this one the Tour 2. Dont need them 9700 peeps calling this one the 'less better bold' due to it being less 50.

 
 
Posted by Big Dawg 23 Friday, May 21, 2010 632 days ago

I couldn't agree more. As I have posted before I only watch this site because my wife is considering replacement for her 8330 on VZW. Personal Blackberry makes nothing to compete with my Moto Droid(dumped my Tour and S1). I get more memory, faster processor, touch screen, and software stability along with openness to adjust things.

RIM is falling further behind on Development. Devices like the Droid Incredible are even making my Moto Droid look old. I like to use exchange without the ridiculous need for a seperate server that most companies limit use on. Given my wife likes he Curve if she were to look for a new phone this may be her best option on when it comes to VZW since she doesnt seem to want Touchscreen yet.

 
 
Posted by garybyrider Saturday, Jun 12, 2010 609 days ago

Personally I could never use a touch screen. I have tried the iphone and the htc evo in stores and just can't get my fat stumpy fingers to cooperate. Also I am a mechanic and sometimes I have to go in my toolbox at work to check my msgs or a call and I have fluids on my fingers. With a leypad I can wrap my fingers in a shop rag and press some keys without totally ruining the phone. This would never be possible for me with a touchscreen. Maybe one of the touch/keypad hybrids though?? Have to wait and see.

 
 
Posted by skhdivers Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

This is not an upgrade to me. I have the Tour and will not be wasting my upgrade on the Bold. To similar. Now if it were the Storm 2 I would be in. This is just and lateral move by Sprint for Blackberry phones!

 
 
Posted by markgrimshaw Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

Thought i had read from Blackberry specs this was only to be 16gb micro sd cards.

can you even buy a 32gb card yet?

 
 
Posted by Detective M Downs Thursday, May 20, 2010 633 days ago

Most newwer Blackberry have been able to support 32gb Micro SD cards. And, yes, 32gb Micro SD cards are available for purchase.