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Posted by brandonhd Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1066 days ago

Looks good, great concept, not sure about 12.99 a month.

 
 
Posted by 07thking Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1066 days ago

This is very impressive technology. Great review.

 
 
Posted by goteesmith Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1066 days ago

The original, non-wifi version of this lock is fantastic (sold at big box stores). And that version doesn't leave you saddled with yet another monthly assault on your revenue streams. I would wait until they drop the fees.

 
 
Posted by Riders On The Storm Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1066 days ago

This would be cool if I had a house and lots of money to throw at it.

 
 
Posted by Adam Zeis Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1066 days ago

I want one. That is all.

 
 
Posted by mrcheta Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1066 days ago

I have been waiting for something like this for awhile.

 
 
Posted by AgentScribe Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1066 days ago

This should be a contest! ;)
Just bought a fixer upper and would love to try this but the hardware is expensive at $200-$300. Now, if I got free ;) ;) I might just be able to stomach the monthly subscription...otherwise, I'm sticking with my old-school Schlage deadbolt and hardware that will go on my new door after other renovations.

 
 
Posted by austin1952 Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1066 days ago

I have an 8800 and the roller ball will only roll to the right not the left - any suggestions?

 
 
Posted by gtstang462002 Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1066 days ago

ask the question in the forums.

 
 
Posted by mthurman Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1066 days ago

"The access fee is a low $12.99/month"

Pretty cool but who needs another bill. They could have easily done this without charging a subscription fee. What happens when nobody buys this and they cancel the web service?

 
 
Posted by squished18 Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1066 days ago

I too dislike the $12.99/month, but I suppose that it compares favorably to a standard security system monitoring fee. A DIY solution would be preferable.

The biggest problem that I have with using the Schlage Link online system is the dependency on their proprietary monitoring service. If for some reason in two years they decide that their service is not financially viable, they may choose to shut it down. If they shut it down, all the investment goes down the tubes. A DIY solution doesn't depend on the financial stability of a service provider.

Again, I suppose this compares favourably with a standard security system. If your security system provider went under, you would probably have to install a new security system anyways.

For a $12.99/month subscription fee, I expect to receive a significant discount on the hardware. They should be subsidizing my hardware through the subscription fee, like a cell phone. Sign me up for a two-year plan and give me $300 off the hardware and I think we would have a deal!

A good first step. Let's hope other security system providers jump on this boat and provide some competition.

squished

 
 
Posted by Niajewel Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1066 days ago

But will it work with the Storm Blackberry? or just the Bold?
or any blackberry device?

 
 
Posted by David Boyd Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1066 days ago

It will work with the Storm and any other BB device.

 
 
Posted by savjr Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1066 days ago

This assumes that your Storm will actually work; with my lock I would lock my self out because my phone froze.

 
 
Posted by The Monsoon Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1066 days ago

Wow, I was ready to go buy it today (it is my birthday after all) but I'm not dropping $300 + $13/mo!!! Drop the monthly fees, and I'm in!!! Why do you need monthly fees anyways? If you charge that much and you sell these like crazy is it not enough to support the server...someone's planning on retiring on this bad boy!!! Cool product...not worth that much!

 
 
Posted by jeffharris Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1066 days ago

I've been using the Schlage Link for several months now, and, just ordered one camera - more if I like it. I use it for my 2 apartments, bi-coastal, and, control it all from my Blackberry very easily. I can let anyone in, or create a temp code for someone, while I'm sitting anywhere in the world (which I do a lot).

 
 
Posted by Denise23 Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1066 days ago

I remember when this was first posted - I've been wanting it so bad since. My neighbors have the 'regular' Schlage number dead bolt thing and yeah. I'd settle for that but I like being able to see if someone is f-ing w/ my door and being able to see when someone is coming in, etc.

 
 
Posted by sunburned Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1066 days ago

This is close, but why hasn't any company come up with a keychain fob to unlock your house just like you can with your car? Carrying a lot of groceries makes it annoying to fumble with a key, so why not have something where you can press a button and have the door or deadbolt unlock for you? I guess you could use the system for this, but a fob would be a million times easier.

 
 
Posted by ChuckH0308 Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1065 days ago

You might be a good candidate for biometric door locks. They're Easier and FAR more secure than a key fob could be. The advantage to the key fob might be that you could unlock from your car before you have stuff in your arms, but with the security risks I'm not sure I would want that. And putting your finger on the door lock when you get to the door is MUCH easier than inserting and turning a key with your hands full, so the biometric locks give you most of the advantage you are looking for while maintaining a very high level of security. Hopefully I won't get in trouble for this, but feel free to email me at charles at daxsys dot net if you are interested in learning more about biometric locks. Those sold at most hardware stores, such as Schlage aren't very good, so you need to know what you're getting into before you just buy one.

 
 
Posted by b1gg134 Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1065 days ago

ZOMG!!!!! Schlage locks aren't any good but I bet the ones you sell are the most secure locks EVER!!!!!!

Let me get this straight, my hands are so full I cannot put the key in the lock and turn it but getting the same hand free to swipe my thumb on the reader a few times is sooooooo much easier? And I still need to turn the handle!!!
LOL You might as well have just told us the previous owner was an old woman who only used it to go to church once a week.

Does your biometric lock have a key backup? If so the level of security is the same as the Schlage lock. All someone with internet access needs to do is google how to bump the lock and your lock will be a safe as the cheapest hardware store lock.

 
 
Posted by ChuckH0308 Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1065 days ago

The high security (HS) BioAxxis locks have an 8 pin horizontal keyway that is impossible to bump, drill, pick, ??? Plus, the keys can not be copied without the security code and the deadbolt is ANSI Grade 1 rated. It is also impossible to copy a fingerprint and use it with the BioAxxis locks. Do some research you will find that the BioAxxis deadbolts are the highest rated in the industry for security and reliability. Again, I'm, only trying to offer an alternative and to protect someone from making a mistake. I don't make a living off this...it's just a product that I truly believe in. Yes, I am an authorized dealer, but it's something I do on the side for the fun of it. If I didn't believe in it I wouldn't be doing this.

 
 
Posted by ronniewoo Saturday, Mar 20, 2010 797 days ago

Bad news, Chuck. The company you represent makes misleading claims about their products.

From the Bioaxxis website, here are some claims and then the truth:
"The UL-listed ANSI Grade II cylindrical latch..."
There is not one single Bioaxxis product listed in the ANSI/BHMA Certified Products Directory (CPD), unlike Schlage, whose residential products (including Schlage LiNK) are all listed Grade 2 or Grade 3 and whose commercial products are Grade 1. See for yourself, the CPD is posted on www.buildershardware.com.
"...creates an impassable barrier that is virtually a guarantee against unwanted entry."
If you sell locks, you must know that there is no such thing as an impassable barrier or a guarantee against unwanted entry. Please. Locks can be picked, bumped, smashed, or otherwise defeated by a determined criminal. Not to mention windows, doors, walls, and ceilings.
"And the BioAxxis L113 Series is the first – and only – biometric lock to feature a biometric access control system."
Not sure about the semantics here, but there are plenty of biometric access control systems on the market, including Recognition Systems' Handkey and Fingerkey.

By definition, a lock with both a biometric credential AND a key cylinder is LESS secure than a lock with only a key cylinder. Not saying biometrics don't have nice advantages, but if you also have a mechanical key override, better security is not one of those advantages.

I would be suspicious of any product that claims that it "meets ANSI Grade 2" but doesn't actually get certified by BHMA.

 
 
Posted by Tony Bag O Donuts Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1066 days ago

concept is cool but I will take a best access systems lock.
sunburned.....they have this in commercial building applications where you hold your fob up in the vicinity of the reader....tracks incoming and exiting information for that individual....when designing schools admin monitored staff who snuck out for breaks, etc. but it is too expensive for home applications.

For it to be effective or feasible I see them teaming up with security companies like ADT and offer all in one solution.

 
 
Posted by gfisher99 Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1065 days ago

I was semi-interested in this system before I read this review. The fact that there is a monthly fee on top of a hugely overpriced set of locks and a useless camera kills it. Like someone above said, if they were to almost completely subsidize the hardware cost via contract on monthly fees, maybe...

I am sitting here thinking to myself how often I would even use this. I am married, but have no kids, so I dont need alerts or anything - plus, I have a remote keypad for my garage door in the unlikely event I somehow lost my keys and garage door opener at the same time. "Never" comes to mind, at least on the remote unlocking feature.

A wired webcam? Useless. Most people do not have ethernet running to optimal locations in their house, and more people have their router (for direct connection) hidden in a room or closet somewhere because they are generally unsightly. Even if you have ethernet all over your house, do you want to see the cable and power adapter/wire?

The reviewer must have been given this system for free. If I paid this much, I surely wouldnt have given it such a glowing review, and I would be returning it. If he actually paid for it, I pitty him. If this is so, he must be trying to justify in his mind the past, present, and future outlay of cash he has, does, and will deal with.

Schlage really missed the mark on this product. I dont even think Billy Mays could sell this, and that guy can sell anything - for $19.99 - order now and you will get a second useless wired webcam for free (just pay additional S&H) :)

 
 
Posted by btdown Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1065 days ago

I'd buy it in a heartbeat, were it not for the monthly fee. If I'm buying a system for that much coin, it should be included.

 
 
Posted by ChuckH0308 Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1065 days ago

I like the monitoring thing (except it shouldn't cost that much), but for an actual lock I think I'll stick with my high security BioAxxis units.

 
 
Posted by robind21283 Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1065 days ago

It looks like in the video, after you press the Schlage button to activate the locking mechanism, you could both unlock and lock the bolt - does that mean anyone could come up, press the Schlage button, and unlock your door without needing a code?

Thanks for your review!

 
 
Posted by David Boyd Thursday, Jun 25, 2009 1065 days ago

No, once the lock is in the locked position, simply pressing the Schlage logo won't activate the locking mechanism anymore. Only the correct 4-digit code with work.

 
 
Posted by blacktoothberry Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 1065 days ago

This is the second time this has been reviewed on Crackberry. Whats that all about.

 
 
Posted by kasperapd Thursday, Jun 25, 2009 1065 days ago

What other time are you talking about? We have seen it at CES, and given one away for the birthday contest, but it has not been reviewed on the blogs before.

 
 
Posted by epf55 Thursday, Jun 25, 2009 1065 days ago

Is the wireless camera, 802.11b, g, or n? Can't seem to find anything on the internet related to the wireless camera's specs, particularly the wireless protocol it operates on and I'm interested in its speed of transmission, obviously.

 
 
Posted by David Boyd Thursday, Jun 25, 2009 1065 days ago

That's a good question that I don't have an answer to. I'll find out.

 
 
Posted by David Boyd Thursday, Jun 25, 2009 1065 days ago

It uses 802.11G

 
 
Posted by cjmjmm2006 Thursday, Jun 25, 2009 1065 days ago

I really love the concept, but the fee kills the deal. The other thing no one is talking about is; if you move, then what? Do you have to get another account for your new place? Do you take the lock with you? $300 for the hardware, in addition to the monthly reoccurring fee... whats next overages for accessing the server more than 10 times a month?? Great concept, charge me $500 for the lock and no $13/month privilege to own fee...

 
 
Posted by n1dym Friday, Jun 26, 2009 1064 days ago

The Schlage lock name has been around for some time and it is one of the better names in home door locks. As with many brands of locks, they have several levels of security available. The average home lock is in the medium to a bit more in cost and is more than enough for most homes. The more secure the lock, the more you pay. As for their new system, it is a good one if all you want is a secure lock.
The monthly charge is ok, but I personally would lean towards a home security system. The home security system monitoring fees run from around $30 a month and up, depending on what you want done. Major brands like Napco and Ademco make home systems that can do all this product does and also monitor fire, burglary, medical, freeze, lights, temperature, cameras (day and nite and in real time)door access and control ( including overhead doors ), interior protection, car alert, cellular connections, and remote control of the entire system via your laptop or cell phone. I can watch the snow fall outside my house in Maine as I am at work in Connecticut - way too cool!! I am 61 y/o and I did it all by myself(who says we are too old to learn and have fun dong it =)

 
 
Posted by Canadabat Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 1047 days ago

AFter reading this review, I decided to puchase a link system and installed as per instructions. After downloading the blackberry software and entering in a registration code, it proceeded to tell me "not sufficient data coverage in your area" after 5 full bars and wifi connection. I have contacted Schlage three times about this issue finally to be told that they do not have any agreement with any Canadian carriers, maybe in the fourth quarter. So I am stuck with a $300 door lock and an additional $145 service fee that I cannot even use. GOOD WORK!!!!

 
 
Posted by mike-e Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 1025 days ago

these locks also work with vera from micasaverde.com and with homeseer found at homeseer.com both allowing the same functions and no monthly fees!

 
 
Posted by allenes Wednesday, Mar 03, 2010 813 days ago

I also am not quite sure about the $13 a month after investing $299. Understand, there are servers to maintain. But it does make the decision more difficult.

 
 
Posted by allenes Wednesday, Mar 03, 2010 813 days ago

Now that has possibilites. z-wave lever lock for less than $200 and it says you can control it with homeseer software. Although I am still looking for BB SW. Downside, the Homeseer sw runs between $200 and $500, depending of features.

No such thing as a free ride.

 
 
Posted by vpwdoc Wednesday, Mar 03, 2010 813 days ago

The ultimate home remote! Could definitely use it!

 
 
Posted by Spuds93 Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 810 days ago

Happy Birthday Crackberry!!! Cheers on your 3rd and many more!