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Posted by wizmillso Monday, May 23, 2011 368 days ago

:O

 
 
Posted by eve6er69 Monday, May 23, 2011 368 days ago

wow this sounds serious

 
 
Posted by Bla1ze Monday, May 23, 2011 368 days ago

Not really, the same fools did the same thing to Palm.. waste of time.

 
 
Posted by ghostzapper Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

Holzer Holzer & Fistel also announced in Sep-2010 that it was investigating Green Mountain Coffee Roasters.

This must be their "line of business."

 
 
Posted by jimcmf2 Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

Yes, just like lawyers, they need to make money.
These guys never get anywhere with this sort of stuff. It's just a waste of time and money. Remember ... we use words like; 'believe' 'think' 'estimate' 'should' 'could' 'may have' 'might' yadda yadda yadda. You get the drill.

 
 
Posted by newcollector Monday, May 23, 2011 368 days ago

Wham! That's the sound of my RIMM stock hitting rock bottom. :-) On the other hand this law firm has an ad out asking for people who purchased RIMM stock during the time periods mentioned to contact them. Sounds like an investor got ticked and now is looking to sue. We have a class action type lawsuit in the works. I'm not selling my Rimm stock on this one.

Even though the stock market is down over a 100 as I type, RIMM is one of the few tech stocks up.

 
 
Posted by Kiddo2050 Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

ya another pain in the ass for RIM, but just foolishness.

 
 
Posted by jimcmf2 Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

"Buy low, sell high".
This happened with BCE when the teachers bailed out.
Check out the stock price lately: Symbol : BCE

It's just more RIMM bashing. Poor Jim and Mike. They don't deserve how the media is treating them after they do such a good job. I have a BB and a PlayBook, and both are AWESOME.
I see everyone with BlackBerrys. They are very classy and cool.

 
 
Posted by mattvait Monday, May 23, 2011 368 days ago

aannn the stock tumbles now....

 
 
Posted by gbester Monday, May 23, 2011 368 days ago

Jackals.

 
 
Posted by drethos Monday, May 23, 2011 368 days ago

Everybody sew everybody, what a world we live in were false allegations can waste millions of dollars. All because someone with their hand out didn't get there's.

 
 
Posted by jimcmf2 Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

Just a quick note. It's SUE

 
 
Posted by robertdusa Tuesday, May 24, 2011 367 days ago

Uh-oh! Now @drethos can sue you for public defamation of character due to use of CAPS in your reply to their reply in a public reply forum.

Textbook case.

 
 
Posted by Scarpia Monday, May 23, 2011 368 days ago

Fire sale! I'm gonna get me some shares of "RIMM" stock! Woo Hoo!

 
 
Posted by lak611 Monday, May 23, 2011 368 days ago

Will RIM soon have a takeover buyer?

 
 
Posted by aris20 Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

why ppl say "RIMM" ?

 
 
Posted by leafs123 Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

That's their listing code on the stock market.

 
 
Posted by jimcmf2 Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

It's the US stock ticker symbol : RIMM

 
 
Posted by tsecor Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

Another huge bump in the rim road....what next

 
 
Posted by branflakes Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

Based on what scant information we have, sounds dubious to me. I'd really want to know what "statements" they think are so misleading.

 
 
Posted by jimcmf2 Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

It's not statements that they made. It was statements that they didn't make.

 
 
Posted by kyopo Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

The title is totally misleading. An investigation suggests that it is the government investigating a securities law violation. This is just a securities litigation firm trying to find something to sue about. This isn't an "investigation." This is just the same type of class action securities litigation that happens when stock price drops. The headline is utter bullshit and while I realize that none of the editors is a lawyer, they should know better than to just throw up a headline like this. The press release was clearly released by the law firm.

 
 
Posted by jimcmf2 Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

I wish RIM sue them back for tarnishing their good name. A cool Billion should do the trick.

FYI - It's RIM bashing season. They don't deserve it. Tell them Kevin !

 
 
Posted by deRusett Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

Adam Please correct your title, RIM isn't UNDER investigation, RIM is being investigated by a Law firm, that is very different

Use the same or a similar title to that of Reuters not something like BGR

 
 
Posted by sf49ers Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

please change the title as it is misleading, RIM is not under investigation but this is just a litigation filed a law firm.

 
 
Posted by Jan_the_Bicycle_Man Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

I smell a rotten "Apple" behind this action.

 
 
Posted by schmittdog Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

You and me Both!

 
 
Posted by herrbremerhaven Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

This is fairly common anytime a major stock goes down more than the overall market declines. If the SEC were behind the investigation, then you could put more weight to this. That a law firm is behind it is more of shareholder activism, meaning a few larger shareholders may have prompted this. As a RIMM shareholder, I got a message inviting me to participate, though the bottom line is that this law firm is trying to leach money out of this action. Most of these types of actions fail to go anywhere, though some result in a settlement in order to quash the negative publicity.

Disclosure: I hold shares of Research in Motion (RIMM) though this comment should not be considered a recommendation to buy, nor a recommendation to sell, any shares.

 
 
Posted by jimcmf2 Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

lol ... that's funny.

 
 
Posted by mss-ca Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

Imagine a world without lawyers? More than 90% of the law firms are good for the devil... IMHO

 
 
Posted by schmittdog Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

Hmmm.... Something seems really fishy after the Whole Foxconn Thing with Apple there. Sounds like since Apple has a stop gap dealing with their products, there seems to be one on RIM now? Bring it on Apple! You don't have a prayer or a reliable OS, that can do multi-tasking or Flash!

 
 
Posted by br14 Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

At a guess the lawsuit is based on the fact RIM came out a few weeks after providing quarterly results and reasonably positive guidance, and adjusted that guidance downward.

While the reason for the sudden change isn't public (so far as I'm aware), it can only be for one of three reasons. Either 1, RIM had a sudden drop in revenue, 2, RIM had a sudden increase in expenses, or 3 RIM deliberately misled investors.

Assuming they're not daft enough to do 3 (sadly not impossible hence the lawsuit), it's either a sudden increase in costs, or a sudden decrease in revenues.

However badly RIM is administered they're not likely to be so bad they don't know what stuff costs, so it has to be 1. Speculation but it sounds as though someone canceled a massive order.

To impact guidance as negatively it has to be a volume buyer of RIM product.

So either this law firm is sure RIM misled investors or they're aware of a material change to RIM order board that the company has not communicated to investors.

A wild guess but maybe AT&T were totally pissed at the ability to tether Playbooks for free and so canceled orders.

For whatever reason RIM appears to have offended all the major carriers in one action. None of the US carriers appear to be promoting RIM products as much they have done in the past.

RIM needs to get new phones to market and quick.

 
 
Posted by dmann96 Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

I was thinking more like Verizon canceling the Storm3.

 
 
Posted by axe50 Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

thats exactly what I was thinking. No other major handset that was scrapped...unless this is related to the marvel-blackpad fiasco...

 
 
Posted by jimcmf2 Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

Neither. RIM said that it did a recalculation of what its distributors had in inventory, and found it to be a bit higher then first thought. Thus, they wont need to re stock as much. Thus, a slight decline in what it thought that it was going to sell.

All I care about is that they beat their previous years profit. It's all about PROFIT ! A fat juicy $7.00/share will do just fine.

Sony lost 3.5 BILLION last quarter. Why doesn't the media bash them? Go ahead media. Tell everybody that Sony has been washed out to sea. They are dead in the water. Barried at Sea. Washed up. Going out like Palm. A had been.

I can give you more if you want?

What's going to happen when Steve Jobs passes away?
The media is going to be all over this one.
The media is EVIL !!!!

 
 
Posted by aa25007 Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

I smell the evil "little green monster" and the company owned by "Jobs" are after something. Getting rid of RIM so they can rule the mobile market for good. Not a three way war but just two mobile OS war.

 
 
Posted by jimcmf2 Monday, May 23, 2011 367 days ago

Jobs is VERY VERY VERY VERY sick. So leave him out of this.

 
 
Posted by kevinnugent Tuesday, May 24, 2011 367 days ago

Dude, seriously? I doubt Google or Apple lose any sleep over what RIM does.

This is shareholder instigated. The people that OWN RIM. You want to blame someone, look at their major shareholders.

 
 
Posted by Defero Tuesday, May 24, 2011 367 days ago

Ha same company investigated green mountain coffee roasters. The stock took a huge hit and I bought at 33.33. its now at 79.xx. Remember how litigious the usa is. Its a bunch of bs.

 
 
Posted by kailashr Tuesday, May 24, 2011 367 days ago

I guess RIMM bus is heading down the "PALM" Dr. Ignoring the No Outlet, Deadend Ahead sign...

 
 
Posted by zensen Tuesday, May 24, 2011 367 days ago

only in america...

 
 
Posted by PacFu Tuesday, May 24, 2011 366 days ago

RIM is canadian

 
 
Posted by QBert Tuesday, May 24, 2011 367 days ago

If a similar investigation preceded the Palm acquisition by HP, maybe the same will play out here? Kevin and the gang speculated in the last podcast that if anyone were to buy out RIM, Microsoft would make the most sense, especially with recent news regarding Bing and BB. Maybe MS is trying to drive down RIMM stock before a buy out? I have absolutely no basis for this comment, just putting pieces together. Just having fun speculating...

 
 
Posted by Snypa Tuesday, May 24, 2011 367 days ago

What next !!?

 
 
Posted by PacFu Tuesday, May 24, 2011 366 days ago

there is a reason microsoft has their own law firm inside the company. Bigger you are, you become a target for EVERY ambulance chaser, and in this regard, no real concern but throwing S*** on the wall to see if it sticks...

 
 
Posted by br14 Tuesday, May 24, 2011 366 days ago

"Neither. RIM said that it did a recalculation of what its distributors had in inventory, and found it to be a bit higher then first thought. Thus, they wont need to re stock as much. Thus, a slight decline in what it thought that it was going to sell."

That qualifies as a reduction in revenue.

If the recalculation story is true frankly that's an even worse reflection on RIM - since despite the fact everyone that ever activated a BlackBerry is logged by RIM - they don't seem to be able to make the relatively simple cross reference to the devices actually shipped to the carrier - and therefore the likely inventory at each carrier.

I don't buy the "recalculation" story, and neither it appears does this group of lawyers. Surely if you're going to "recalculate" inventory, you do it prior to announcing to the world how well you're doing.

Take a look at US carrier store websites. You have to look pretty hard to find BlackBerry devices among the host of Android phones.

I'd speculate that somehow RIM have messed up their carrier relationships. And given no one believes anything Jim Balsillie says anymore. I don't think having him run marketing is a terribly good idea.

 
 
Posted by booraa Thursday, May 26, 2011 365 days ago

The law firm Holzer Holzer & Fistel, LLC is currently under investigation for possible deflate-and-buy style securities fraud, along with a possible premeditated stragegy of libeling other corporate interests. Also under investigation is possible violations that could lead to disbarment of principal partners in the firm and dissolution of the company as a whole. When booraa (who is an expert at this kind of stuff) is finished with an in-depth investigation, he'll probably be able to reveal that a wholesale policy of general douchebaggery was in place at the company.

 
 
Posted by Jamie_Reckless Saturday, May 28, 2011 363 days ago

sounds like a bunch of "spread the wealth" liberals, upset over someone making too much of a profit. o,r profit greedy right wingers, upset for people making a profit other than themselves. maybe RIM should investigate them for fraud. seems to me like they are trying to "deflate" a company, to acquire them @ minimal cost.

or i could be wrong & its a sophisticated plan of some very wealthy, but unorganized in thought..haha!

both types are unacceptable & wreckless

 
 
Posted by Gamesdmc3 Tuesday, May 31, 2011 360 days ago

I want to take a pic on top of the blue RiM