Is Research In Motion looking for a buyer for NewBay?

By Michelle Haag on 12 Aug 2012 05:14 pm EDT
According to sources familiar with the matter, Research In Motion is looking into selling NewBay and other minor assets purchased over the last couple of years. NewBay develops software for use on mobile phones which enables users to create and share digital content such as pictures and videos, as well as updating social networks. RIM purchased NewBay in October of 2011 in a $100 million deal with intentions of keeping the software development center and its staff of 200 in Dublin.

While the possible sale of the cloud services company leads to rumors of RIM abandoning that sort of service altogether, it is more likely that they have decided on a different solution and no longer have a need for NewBay. Over in the forums conversation is brewing about the rumor with people on either side of the debate. While CrackBerry member D_March says "There are tons of cloud services to use. They don't need to own one", member Darlaten is curious how security would measure up to BlackBerry standards. "I have to know that they have uncompromised security and quite frankly have security as their number one priority. At the moment, outside of RIM, I simply dont trust anyone else's security. "

Of course, at this time, the possibility of a sale of NewBay is nothing more than a rumor, as RIM has declined to comment on the speculation. What do you think RIM should do regarding cloud services/storage for BlackBerry 10? Should they be working on developing their own solution, or would a 3rd party solution be adequate? Let us know in the comments, or join in the conversation at the link below.

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Is Research In Motion looking for a buyer for NewBay?


If they have another updated solution for cloud service then so be it, but if they are selling this one to use third party service I think it would not be a good idea. They could offer this service for the person, company or enterprise who really needs it, and just use third party service for people who don't care much about the security.

cloud storage is garbage... good luck listening to ur music on the subway... until wifi is everywhere and i mean everywhere then the use of the cloud is nothing to me. the only good feature is that I like to think of it as a back up if i lost my phone, then again I have never lost my phone. I do not see myself as a happy camper using the cloud on a regular basis. I will stick to my SD card and hope RIM does the same.

Cloud services is great for companies that all share information out of the same pool.

I love what Microsoft has recently done with their hotmail and outlook. They are on the right track. This service will only grow. The key here will be to have secure cloud services.

This is the beginning of the end. RIM will be sold off in parts, and will most likely not exist next year at this time.

Which brings the question to mind, will the apps on our Playbooks still function? And more importantly will App World itself still work?

Hope for the best but be prepared for the worst.
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No, rim isn't going to be sold off in parts. A rumor is a rumor. If there isn't anything solid to back it up, forget it, drop it. I don't see rumors as any form of truth.

I always wondered what was so difficult for RIM to extend their pre-existing cloud services into a format everyone understands and harps on about. Not all of us have real use for cloud storage but RIM cannot miss another marketing beat if costs permit.
Question is how much will they recoup from this fairly recent acqusition after the sale??

Hosting canned done by anyone but encryption should be the responsibility of the user. This would be done based on the sensitivity of the information. Mp3 of call me maybe has no real need to be encrypted but that sensitive pdf document is a must. Cloudfogger is a free encryption service that you can use with any cloud service. It makes whatever service you choose secure because of its true TNO (trust no one) architecture.

Currently there is an android version waiting for one that works with bb10 android player. There is also windows versions available.

Security is only true if your the one responsible, otherwise your just passing the buck and hoping whatever service you choose is hack proof.

Aren't you trusting Cloudfogger? They're providing you the tool so do you really know how secure it is? Many can make claims but they often have very poor implementations of the algorithms, shortcuts that create more security holes, or even backdoors. ITNO (I trust no one!) :)

This was one of their more expensive recent buys, and it would seem that an in house cloud services solution would be something that can not only benefit BB 10 but also extend the life of legacy BBOS in markets where it is still strong.

BBM Music, a secure cloud solution for enterprise BES and Mobile fusion customers, ability to continue reading from the page you left off at on your BB phone on your Playbook, ability to access saved game data on the phone and the Playbook... Basically a BB version of iCloud. Newbay seems like it is an important piece of the puzzle and a great deal of cloud related IP to ward off the iTroll fruit company who will inevitably looking for reasons to sue RIM if BB 10 is even the slightest bit successful.

I'd say if they don't need the money desperately they should hold on to this asset as they likely will not get the 100 million back that they paid for it less then a year ago anyway. Cloud services are the way the market is going and the more assets and IP RIM has in this area the better. Don't sell it at a loss only to face a lawsuit from Apple or Microsoft a year from now and not have the IP to defend yourself in court

I can't go as far as saying that I agree with Jonathank because I have never used any kind of cloud storage what so ever. I honestly can say I will never need to neither. I can store all the information that I need to on my phone's internal memory and/or the sd card.
As the minimalist philosophy usually applies to the physical material I also have adapted it into my digital world where less is better. I do however take advantage of the sd card as it suits my needs. All in all blackBerry is a fundamental tool for my approach into a simpler way of life. I hope RIM/BlackBerry will keep BB10 simple and yet sophisticated; not quite as simple as iphone, but much more exciting and business developed as it always has.
I'm sure cloud services are great for some people but as Jonathank stated where wifi is not available and as carriers are ditching unlimited data those services are just not practical for me as of now.

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I want to see them be cloud agnostic rather than push everyone to a specific solution. Plus, RIM (NOT BlackBerry) can use the cash.

As to folks who poo poo the cloud, you are blind to the reality of a connected world (at least in the mature economies.) Just as your BlackBerry is nearly useless when off the net, so to will be tablets. This is why RIM started with the 32GB LTE. You don't need as much storage when the cloud is always there. That is also why I will buy the 32 and not look back.

Correct. The reply to the business people who say "if you keep your data in the cloud it is only as good as your Internet connection" is, basically "So if the Internet goes down, how do you communicate with suppliers and customers?" - it is basically all Internet nowadays.

If it wasn't for Windows 8, I would say RIM should partner with Microsoft for cloud services. I am very impressed with where they are going with Azure, which I regard as one of the good bits (if I can have SQL Server 2012, Azure and Server 2008R2/Windows 7 pro, you can dump the rest in the Pacific for all I care. And that includes Office, Sharepoint and .NET). But as Microsoft has to promote Windows Phone 8 and Windows for Lego 8, I don't think they can do that.

My Playbook, off the net, is an expensive but solid e-book reader. On the net, it is becoming near indispensable.

RIM security? Really? You do know they are the biggest punks in the business right? They would bend over for the first dictator who threatened to ban their junk in his little backwater if it would cost them sales. What a canard.

You really have no idea what you are talking about. RIM is not bending over to anyone. What you interpret from the press releases you are reading (or gisting) is incorrect. It is precisely because of RIM's security we are seeing these requests for access.

Other mobile devices use far less or no encryption at all so they don't present a problem for these governments.

RIM is always getting approval by the US gov't. I'm not sure why you would think RIM's security is not the most sound on the planet.

..."According to sources familiar with the matter, Research In Motion is looking into selling NewBay and other minor assets purchased over the last couple of years." and ... "Of course, at this time, the possibility of a sale of NewBay is nothing more than a rumor, as RIM has declined to comment on the speculation."
What is the point of starting any blog about the rumors that are not even confirmed by interested party? Leave it to the opposition and say here something that could advance our faith in RIM instead.

It began two days ago with an article in the on-line Wall St Journal (less rigorous fact checking required for articles there as opposed to the print version??)
So since it was already out there as a topic in financial media, why pick on Crackberry for starting a blog on it especially if that is part of the raison d'etre for this Site......News and rumours??
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in my personal opinion, do not find any help from other companies, unless IBM..
they have good management and lead RIM to be a better than before

Cloud services is seen as useless by some but I strongly believe it is the wave of the future. By just enabling synchronization between devices, cloud services is a huge selling point for anyone with a connected smartphone, tablet or computer. Collaboration is also a huge selling point for cloud based services.

Of course, the BlackBerry Bridge service does connect PlayBook and BlackBerry without requiring any cloud services; however, it is an unusual yet powerful solution. Still, it does not address the bigger problem.

When I see the services that Google offers with Google Mail, Calendar, Docs, etc., I can't help but wonder why RIM doesn't offer something similar for BlackBerry users. It doesn't need to be as complex, but it needs to provide a specific need. Apple has addressed that need with their iCloud service for iPhone users.

Google certainly has no desire to advance BlackBerry 10 by offering calendar support or even Google Docs support. Google is even redirecting BlackBerry browsers to specific mobile pages that have limited functionality -- it is disheartening! These cloud-based services have become essential services for many, including myself. Calendar sync is as important, if not more important, than my mail! I always need to know what I'm doing, where and when.

What am I to do if I don't have access to such services on my mobile device? RIM must address this issue sooner than later.

i never thought cloud services is important for me until i got a total hard disk failure few days ago. basically my hard disk just died. i lost all important files for work. from now on i will make sure to regularly back up all my files to the cloud. now i just have to choose which is the right one for me.

I've used Carbonite for many years. Fortunately I have never needed to recover a device from the backup so I can't attest to its efficacy in that regard. However, I have recovered individual files from the backup of one device on to another. That has work flawlessly. I have no financial or other incentive to recommend Carbonite.

When I had a major data loss a month ago, the only annoyance was waiting overnight for 60 Gbytes of Dropbox data to resync.
When one of our data servers threw a wobbly, we got the data back but it took several hours of work. I know which I prefer.

RIM should provide access to cloud services. Allow the user to choose which service works best for them. RIM should only provide the phone OS, App, and user data backup.

Isn't the bigger question "why did they pay $100 million for a company 18 months ago that they have lost interest in?" Hubristic overreaching? Poor decisionmaking?

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