Research In Motion Introduces New BlackBerry 7 Smartphones

Research In Motion Introduces New BlackBerry 7 Smartphones
By Kevin Michaluk on 3 Aug 2011 04:45 am EDT

BlackBerry Torch 9810, Torch 9850 and Torch 9860 Officially Announced!

Finally CrackBerry Nation, the wait is almost over and it's about to rain new BlackBerrys. With the BlackBerry Bold 9900 and 9930 previously announced at BlackBerry World, Research In Motion just officially announced three more BlackBerry Torch models that bring the count of BlackBerry 7 phones up to 5. The BlackBerry Torch 9810 is the second generation of the sliding form factor Torch 9800, while the BlackBerry Torch 9850 and Torch 9860 (previously codenamed monaco and monza), are full touchscreen devices. Read on for the press release!

Press Release 

Research In Motion Introduces New BlackBerry 7 Smartphones

Largest Global Launch of BlackBerry Smartphones Ever With More Than 225 Partners Around the World

WATERLOO, ONTARIO-- (Aug. 3, 2011) - Research In Motion (RIM) (NASDAQ:RIMM)(TSX:RIM) today announced plans to launch 5 new BlackBerry® smartphones based on the BlackBerry® 7 Operating System (OS). RIM, in conjunction with carriers and distribution partners around the world, is rolling out two new BlackBerry® Bold™ models and three new BlackBerry® Torch™ models, all running the powerful new BlackBerry® 7 OS.

The launch of this family of handsets will be RIM's largest global launch ever and more than 225 carriers and distribution partners have already commenced or completed over 500 certification programs for these 5 new handsets.

Featuring RIM's next generation of hardware and software platforms, these five new BlackBerry 7 based smartphones offer users a variety of designs to choose from and deliver the ultimate in communications, multimedia and productivity.

The new BlackBerry® Bold™ 9900 and 9930 are RIM's thinnest smartphones ever, each offering a large keyboard and brilliant touch display. The new BlackBerry® Torch™ 9810 smartphone builds on the popularity of the BlackBerry® Torch™ 9800 and combines a large touch display with a convenient slide-out keyboard. The BlackBerry® Torch™ 9850 and 9860 introduce an all-new, all-touch design featuring the largest display on a BlackBerry® smartphone to date.

"This is the largest global launch of BlackBerry smartphones in our history," said Mike Lazaridis, President and Co-CEO of Research In Motion. "The BlackBerry solution offers a best-in-class mobile communications experience that customers love and we think they will be thrilled by the faster performance, enhanced browsing and richer multimedia delivered by these powerful new BlackBerry Bold and BlackBerry Torch smartphones."

Next-Generation BlackBerry 7 OS

BlackBerry 7 introduces a next generation BlackBerry browser with a significantly faster, more fluid web browsing experience that is among the best in the industry. Combining the dramatically improved performance of the advanced WebKit browser engine together with the powerful hardware enhancements found in the BlackBerry 7 based smartphones delivers browsing results that are up to 40% faster than BlackBerry® 6 based smartphones and up to 100% faster than BlackBerry® 5 based smartphones*. Additional enhancements to this next generation BlackBerry browser have also optimized zooming and panning for smoother web navigation and optimized HTML5 performance for incredible gaming and video experiences.

RIM's new BlackBerry 7 based smartphones also feature Liquid Graphics™ technology, with each smartphone combining a dedicated high-performance graphics processor with a blazingly fast CPU and stunning high resolution display to deliver a highly responsive touch interface with incredibly fast and smooth graphics.

In addition, BlackBerry 7 based smartphones continue the tradition of delivering the world's best mobile communications experience with a highly refined and integrated suite of phone, email, messaging and social apps to keep users connected and productive throughout the day. Recent enhancements include the newest release of BBM™ (BlackBerry® Messenger) which now extends the real time BBM experience to a range of other apps (see separate announcement on July 28, 2011). The updated Social Feeds (2.0) app has been extended to capture updates from media, podcasts, and favorites all in one consolidated view. The new Facebook® for BlackBerry smartphones (2.0) app introduces features like Facebook chat and BBM integration that makes it easier for users to connect with their Facebook friends in real time.

BlackBerry 7 OS also includes a number of other pre-loaded applications and integrated functionality for increased productivity and collaboration right out of the box. The Premium version of Documents To Go is now included free of charge, offering users powerful document editing features as well as a native PDF document viewer. BlackBerry® Protect is also pre-loaded**, offering customers the peace of mind that personal data can be backed up and secured in the cloud. BlackBerry® Balance (announced May 2, 2011) is now integrated in BlackBerry 7, allowing users to enjoy the full BlackBerry smartphone experience for both work and personal purposes without compromising the IT department's need for advanced security and IT controls. And further, the popular universal search capability has been enhanced with support for voice-activated search, so users can now simply speak to begin searching their device and the web for information.

A New Performance Driven Platform

RIM's line up of next generation BlackBerry smartphones are built on a new performance driven platform powered by the latest BlackBerry software and hardware. In addition to supporting the new BlackBerry 7 OS, each smartphone also features a range of powerful hardware enhancements including a 1.2 GHz processor, HD video recording, 24-bit high resolution graphics, and advanced sensors enabling new augmented reality applications such as Wikitude that can be seamlessly integrated with BBM 6 – all designed to deliver the ultimate in communications, multimedia and productivity for users around the world.

BlackBerry Bold 9900 and 9930 Smartphones with Touch Display and Keyboard

The BlackBerry Bold 9900 series is the thinnest BlackBerry smartphone yet (at only 10.5mm) and the first to offer the perfect union of a high performance keyboard and touch display integrated within the iconic BlackBerry Bold design. The new BlackBerry Bold 9900 and 9930 are also the first BlackBerry smartphones to include built-in support for NFC (Near Field Communications), a new technology that is enabling many new and exciting capabilities, including the ability to pair accessories or read SmartPoster tags with a simple tap of the smartphone. Distinguished by its beautiful design, amazingly effective keyboard and brilliant touch display, the BlackBerry Bold 9900 series is crafted with premium materials including a brushed stainless steel frame that puts the finishing touch on a truly outstanding smartphone.

BlackBerry Torch 9810 Smartphone with Touch Display and Slide-Out Keyboard

Building on the popular design of the BlackBerry Torch 9800, the new BlackBerry Torch 9810 is faster and more fluid with high performance hardware features and the new BlackBerry 7 OS delivering an enhanced multimedia experience. Featuring a large 3.2", high resolution touch display and a distinctive BlackBerry keyboard that easily slides out to allow faster typing, the BlackBerry Torch 9810 truly delivers the best of both worlds.

All-Touch BlackBerry Torch 9850 and 9860 Smartphones

The BlackBerry Torch 9850 and 9860 smartphones offer the fast, fluid BlackBerry 7 experience in a stylish new all-touch design. With a spectacular new 3.7" display, the largest ever on a BlackBerry smartphone, the new all-touch BlackBerry Torch 9850 and 9860 smartphones are optimized for displaying web pages, photos, videos, and powerful gaming experiences and still deliver the real-time communication and collaboration experience loved by millions of BlackBerry smartphone users around the world.


The next generation of BlackBerry smartphones will begin to be available from carriers around the world starting later this month. Availability dates for specific devices from specific carriers will be announced in conjunction with RIM's partners.

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Research In Motion Introduces New BlackBerry 7 Smartphones


Looks like 9850 / 9860 will be exactly the same design except for CDMA / GSM as opposed to previously rumored flush keys on the 9850. the independent keys seems alright in the press shots but would have to see them in person to take a call.. never know might end up liking the more responsive keys!

:( the curve was the one I was looking forward to the most as there's already been a ton of leaks of these 5 but hardly any curve leaks

Odds are that this announcement is due to the earliest shipping dates, if the first Curves aren't going to be out until next month then it would make sense to announce them separately a bit later.

With all the negative media attention lately perhaps they were eager to announce the big guns and get people excited about the more expensive phones.

Too little, too late? This all should have happened last year. Blackberry is a dying platform. I hope to be proven wrong though...

Why does everyone have to be troll when they are disappointed in the phones? So I guess you would consider me a troll. I dumped BB 18 months ago for Android and now the iPhone. However, my wife still likes her BB Torch so I keep up on what will be available for her.

Any true BB fan must be honest and admit RIM is behind the 8 ball now. There are too many phones that trump these specs on phones. Yes BB owners prefer things other than hardware specs. However, RIM Software is nothing to right home about. Hopefully OS7 is an improvement. I was a demo rep for the Playbook and hope they do launch a 10Inch as I would take that over any other device out there. Phones are a different story.

Yes, BigDawg,

You're trolling. Just tell your wife what she needs to know, leave us alone, and go back to your toy Android phones

Okay, now I'm conflicted! I've pretty much said it's going to be Bold for me, but if Sprint get's that all-touch Torch I don't know ...

LOVE the maturity always found here on CB. Android is a "toy" phone, as is iPhone, but it's totally fine with you to continue to buy the same, slightly moderated phone on the rare occasion when a new one comes out? Cool for you!

Grow up a little.

Actually, I do think Android has made strides since I last owned one. I use the word "toy" because it's the apps that everyone raves about. I find their phone and email apps much too cumbersome, even though they have some "cool" apps. Therefore, it's more of a "toy" to me than a useful business tool. YMMV, and that's great for you.

Did I call the Iphone a toy? It's no easy way for me to check that but if I did I didn't mean to. An I-phone is just a non-starter for me. No more Apple purchases at all.

I agree with the Android. My company switched to Android and after dealing with the lack of battery life I got the Torch and use the BB for everything. The droid has been sitting in the drawer ever since.
As soon as these baby's come out we are dumping our HTC Evo 4G's and buying BB's.
Anyone interested in buying 4 HTC Evo 4G's and a couple of HTC Hero's?

Totally, what are you trolling about? If it's cause you're and iphone or android user....NEWSFLASH, they don't need your help doing their dirty work!

I think BB got a chance now that they've finally come out with a respectible touch only device.

Oh shut up ianbordas! It's people like you that are the reason Blackberry is falling behind. Somebody points out a shortfall with Blackberry and you start hating on them. Grow up!

Yes, seriously. Ok they didn't happen until now, but here they are, what's left to complain about?

How can you say RIM is dying on the day they introduce all these new phones?

No you don't.

This phone is faster than the iPhone, way better battery life than the top droids, more secure, has a damned keyboard vs. Motorola's joke.
The Playbook is the ONLY tablet being considered by the U.S., Russia, Australia and anyone that cares about security.
This phones have 4G, NFC, and a way better BBM than anyone.

You will be proven wrong. The facts are that these phones are awesome.

My friend, if/when you use the 9900, I would be very surprised if you say it's "too little". I've had the opportunity to play with the 9900 and it's amazing! Now, when I pick up other phones, I don't see that they're able to offer me anything more than a BlackBerry does.

No, they said a number of their new devices would support it, the odds are that due to the 9810 reusing the torch casing it would have been extra work to include it, not to mention that we don't know if it is something that at&t even want to support and after all they are almost certainly the lead carrier for 9810 given the amount they have already spent on the torch brand in advertising.

I kinda wish they would have went bigger on the all touch torches. 4 inches or so. I expect the curves to drop for the holiday season. Aren't they supposed to be running a lite version of OS7? So that would mean a different os to develop.
I have 2 hopes. 1 is that they don't suck, any of them. Every device rock solid. 2 is that this stops the bleeding of the previously faithful to other platforms. Just because I left doesn't mean I want RIM to die.

I think that 3.7 is a fair size without making the phone too big. iPhone 4 is 3.5 inch and it seems most people are fairly happy with a size like that. So 3.7 is a bit bigger without getting to big.

I'm sorry, but as a consumer I don't see 5 new devices. There is a now Bold in the 9000 form factor, a new Torch and a new Storm (now called Torch, too). So there are actualy 3 new devices, i.e. form factors you can choose from. No one would say "I don't like the 9930, but the 9900 is so cool!".
Why should you count the 9900 and 9930 as two different ones? The only people that had to care about the differences were the guys at RIM when programming the radio stuff and the carriers when ordering the right one. That is nothing other companies don't face, so I cannot understand why RIM is making such a big deal out of it.
My hope that the 7 new devices will bring RIM back to a competitive position just vanished with this press release. In the end we will just see 4 new ones (Torch, Torch touch, Curve, Bold).

While some criticize RIM for having too many models and form factors, others criticize RIM for having too few. I guess they can't please everyone.

It's a good point. There are only 3 devices, not 5. RIM is just looking dishonest. They should've said 4 new releases total, not 7. I'll take the 4, however!

It's an excellent point. RIM's marketing department is an abomination. There are three devices, PERIOD.

Is Apple introducing two devices, an iPhone 5000 for AT&T and an iPhone 5030 for Verizon? NO!

Actually, arent the iPhone models different between the carriers? I know that Verizon's iPhone can be used as a hotspot where ATT's cannot. So technially, Apple does have two iPhone models.

Actually no, it is simply an iOS difference. Both phones are identical and function just the same. In fact, both phones can be used as a hotspot. The only main physical difference is that the antenna is placed in a different spot in the GSM model (AT&T) versus the CDMA version (Verizon).

No. You're retarded. They have completely different Qualcomm chipsets under the hood. Hell the Verizon iPhone doesn't even have a SIM card slot. Please do your homework before bashing RIM.

Not only that, the monkeys probably thought the Storm name was garbage due to the epic failure of the Storm 1 so any device name like that would fail too (like Storm 2), so what do they do with the next full screen touch? oh lets just call it Torch, that was a successfull one! (a name that everyone associates with slider form) and confuce the heck out of people...

It's 3 devices in the consumer view, while it's 5 devices in terms of RIM reaching to potential users.

It's a bit of tomato to-mah-to on this one - you could accuse that the marketing as dishonest, or you could say that they're being technically correct.

How you view this is really up to you. I think it's great that they're releasing stuff :)

New phones announced and should be announced soon:

2 New Bolds (9790? and 9900)
2 New Torches
2 New Curves (Full touch and a QWERTY)

That is 6 right there. Perhaps they are considering another flip or a PlayBook as a 7th device.

+1, I absolutely agree on this, there are 3 new devices, one of them (9900) has already been announced 90 days ago..
Still good to (finally) see some new BBs...

I think the other devices that will get announced will be, Curve, Curve Touch, and Bold touch in the 9780 size.

They don't need any other devices. They have a slider, full touch, keyboard-touchscreen, and the Curve model...What else is there?

I think RIM still needs to complete its line of entry level devices. Especially in markets where they are not that popular (yet :-) ).
E.g., I'm from Germany. People over here have no idea about advantages a BlackBerry could offer them. In conjunction with the devices' high prices, the barrier to switch "just to try it" is too high.
The new Curve is pretty nice, but previously you could not see a clear way the Curve line went. I mean look at the timeline of releases (8300, 8900, 8500, 9300), there were features getting better and features getting worse (camera resolution + flash, GPS, battery, trackball/trackpad). You always had to trade features off.
Although I personally cannot understand that, there are people wanting a full touch device instead of a keyboard. So there would be the need for an entry level full touch device.

Regarding keyboard-touchscreen I would like to see the Bold 9700 form factor again.

To sum things up:
Imho a complete line up would be Touch 9850/9860, Torch 9810, Bold 9900/9930, Bold 9790 as high level devices and at the entry level the Curve 9350/9360, a Curve Touch and a OS7 Pearl.

-> 7 really different devices

I think an all-touch Curve will be the reason why we don't see an os7 Pearl, it will fill a similar role of converting people from featurephones to blackberry now that most feature phones these days are all-touch rather than candy bars like they used to be.

Good point. Mine was rather targeting those that did not yet switch to other all-touch devices because they consider them being too big to carry around in the pocket. I still know a lot of those.
I was hoping that RIM managed to modularize their internal design to such an extent that they "just" have to remove/replace some parts (e.g., NFC/battery, screen) from the 9360 and rearrange the rest to fit it in the Pearl case. So the overhead only consists of design and testing of the keyboard, screen, antenna and battery life. Maybe I'm to naive :-)

I see your point about the number but it might very well be 5 not 4. There is reason to believe that there will be 2 different curves. One all touch and one with a keyboard.

I'd say probably all this month to go with those 32808 articles yesterday on leaked release dates. Not confirmed which sucks but gotta hope they are close.

The Telus and Bell leaked timelines in Canada are showing October for that device.
It's a tempting device but the 9900 might have me sold.

I wouldn't really call this a "global launch" like they do. It's not on the Aus BB site but it is on the Canadian, UK and USA ones. It's nice to finally see them out there though. Hopefully news for down here will come soon.

P.s. This is the second time writing this. My browser decided to crash. The 99xx can't come soon enough.

I can't believe RIM even got it wrong, the 9850/9860 is not the Torch; it is the Touch, man these guys struggle, lol. I just had to put this out there for all the people that kept trying to prove the mods here, even when all evidence said otherwise, wrong for putting the Torch branding on these devices.

I was quite confused as to why they would have TWO devices with the same name.. seems a little silly. If it's toUch that makes a bit more sense but still a bit to close clearly if the releases all have TWO toRch's coming out. Why not make something a bit different?

Or maybe it is because calling it the Touch would have been too generic, storm has poor connotations and the Torch brand is considered in a fairly positive light.

So NFC is only for the Bold?....................hmmmm, I thought they were all about getting that into their devices. Oh well!

Yeah, I was thinking the exact same. Makes us Storm and Torch users feel like we have to settle for a phone with less features just to get that larger screen...

Grow up. I don't purchase a phone for today, I purchase a phone for my CONTRACT period, which is two years. I need 4G and NFC *now* to use over my next two years of this contract.

Same old same old......still no dates. RIM is really good at "announcing" new products, but sucks at actaully releasing them.

The harm from BB use, or any cell phone for that matter is not there, were exposed to more radiation over a normal day going about our daily business then your BB exposes you to over a week. get over it already. and just be happy BB actually has some tangible competition out there..... for the first time in a very very long time.
IF you have nothing better to do then nit pick about how Rim "disappointed you" and how this is "to little to late" go off in a corner with your iDofus and do whatever strange perverse things iDofus owners do. *shudders*
Personally i want that new Bold, i want it now!

One of these will definitely be my new phone when i can afford one, but really I'm very disappointed with how long this has taken. I personally think that the whole playbook thing (although it's really cool) was a big waste of time and effort. If they had just worked on these they may have been able to release them in April or May. Honestly they need to release these as soon as possible, and the new curve too. Not that i have one, but walking around with an 8520 these days is just embarrassing.

These are "good enough" to keep BlackBerry fans happy ;)

And good to see BlackBerry making a serious effort to catch the tail end of the Back-To-School sales where a significant amount of sales are generated, and in this note the "Curve" is missing and is bittersweet...

For upcoming QNX Torch iteration, here's my wish list for form factor:

1. It would be brilliant if BlackBerry makes a Landscape slider keyboard similar to Motorola's Droid3, with those extra numerical buttons! AND you can fit in a larger (4+ inch?) screen this way!
Needs to be thin like the Droid3...

On the topic of thin, I have activated a few Samsung Galaxy S II's and while the specs are nice, they claim the title of the world's thinnest smartphone by making it out of cheap plastic. The battery cover is something you'd see on a toy phone at Dollarama. It's nice to see BlackBerry smartphones have some meat on their bones.

They made us wait but for good reason 225 partners around the world! Their sales are going to go out of this world!

I am glad everybody is excited about the phones but now we all forgot about the playbook update that will bring everything they promised. for the next few weeks people will only be talking about phones and the hands on videos but I hope RIM also launches the update for the playbook this week cause i am tired of their stupid weekly updates just to fix bugs.

Great Point Doug! PB will slip to the back burner a bit while they work on the major update to it.

I'm glad to see that these devices are finally officially announced! And I'm even more excited to know that these new devices should be released later this month! I purchased the BlackBerry Torch 9800 last August 12th on release day and I'm almost due for an upgrade. My girlfriend loves my Torch and can't wait for these new BlackBerry's to drop because she wants my BB lol. I've been trying to convince her that she should upgrade to the new BB Torch 9810 when it gets released. Honestly, I'm still undecided on whether I want the new Torch 9810 or the new Bold 9900. I really love the Torch form factor but the new Bold is a very tempting device!

Either way, no matter what I end up deciding, I know that both my girlfriend and I will be happy! And i'll be even happier when my birthday comes in September because my girl knows how badly I want a BlackBerry PlayBook and she's been hinting about getting me one for my birthday :)

All I got left to say is...I CAN'T WAIT!!! :D

Good times for you ahead! I'm debating whether or not to get the bold 9900 NOW when it comes out hopefully next week on Rogers or wait until Christmas and hint at the 'rents that it would probably the best Christmas present ever!

No, these ones are only 4g due to the carriers labelling hspa+ as 4g in some countries, wimax or lte support would require an additional radio and would kill the battery life like it does on all other devices.

yes!!! finally! even though I still havent decided whether I'll go with the new Bold or Torch or maybe the iPhone 5, the next few months are going to be reaaal interesting! :-)

Hi @ BBprodigy,

Douglas from RIM here. You have some big decisions to make, so I wanted to weigh in with my (slightly biased) .02.

All of our new smartphones rock the new BlackBerry 7 OS – providing faster and smoother web browsing, multi-touch capability, voice activated universal search, as well as the ability to manage and keep your personal and business life separate with BlackBerry Balance. OS 7 also brings to life NFC (on the BlackBerry Bold 9900 and 9930), Augmented Reality and HD video.

To learn more about what each of our new smartphones has to offer, stop by our Inside BlackBerry Blog for the latest:

Douglas, RIM Social Media Team

According to the Inside Blackberry blog, the 9860 is for AT&T, Rogers,Telus and Bell, and the 9850 is for Sprint and US Cellular with no mention of Verizon. Sucks to be on Big Red if you were hoping for a Torch!

Need to start saving some $$$$ to pick up a new 9850 as soon as it hits VZW. Anxious to see price points for these phones.

Maybe they don't want to increase costs slightly, add additional hardware they need to support for a feature that most people use once or twice and then ignore.

Am I missing something in all the alphabet soup? Do ANY of these have hot spot? This is a critical purchase issue.

I don't think RIM ever said they'll release 7 new devices. I believe that the number 7 came from a misunderstanding when releasing Blackberry 7 devices...get it, 7?
As all crackberry addicts, I am super duper excited about all these new devices; would have loved the Torch slider on Sprint but I guess I'll have to do with the Bold 9930 ( still need that physical keyboard). As I saw on another posting, TMO is offering the Bold for $250 after rebate w/ 2 yr agreement which is I phone is $199, why is RIM pricing their phones so high? No matter, I still want one LOL...maybe that's why!?

Need a release date from big red!!! my son dropped my Storm2 and the glass is shattered. Have used it the past 2 weeks but glass is chipping off each day and had to switch to my wife's old Tour. I've been up for renewal since beginning of July.

Love the Torch's slider but don't want to make the move to AT&TMo. Might have to wait in line for the Bold9930.

With iPhone5 rumours flying about with a September release date, I'm fearing some "lacklustre sales" news articles for RIM in the near future.

Long live the RIMpire!!

It must have been! I have not heard/seen anything about it for months.

I was pretty bummed but then thought of how much I would actually use it. And well probably not often so I will live.

I don't think these phones are worth to buy, they are not upgradable to QNX next year
OS 7 is just refreshed OS 6, not much difference at all. Don't waste your money on these phones

I don't understand your logic. What do you think that QNX will offer that is substantially different than what OS7 can do? Have you used OS7? It IS significantly faster than OS6.

Do you think that people should spend money on an iPhone5? After all, it's just a refreshed iPhone1,2,3,4....

With OS7 I am concerned about the lack of apps. I wonder how quickly developers jump on and update their apps to work with OS7.

After "years" of waiting they're finally announced! ...too bad i got an HTC Evo 3D a little over a week ago! best thing i ever did ;)

First off, i am not a troll and have a stable of 7 BB devices and used to develop for take on this is too little too late. with the other 2 devices coming out by the end of the year no one will care. the i5 comes out in september and if the 9850/9900 arent out by then it is truly game over for RIM. they are delaying themselves into antiquity and whoever considers a BB a "real smartphone' is kidding themselves. RIM needs these phones out NOW....not in a couple months. when the i5 comes out it will be a tidal wave that will even effect android in my opinion.

"First off, i am not a troll and have a stable of 7 BB devices and used to develop for take on this is too little too late. with the other 2 devices coming out by the end of the year no one will care. the i5 comes out in september and if the 9850/9900 arent out by then it is truly game over for RIM. they are delaying themselves into antiquity and whoever considers a BB a "real smartphone' is kidding themselves. RIM needs these phones out NOW....not in a couple months. when the i5 comes out it will be a tidal wave that will even effect android in my opinion."

Whatever. If you don't have anything to say that will be useful going forward, then what's the point? Your post is not helpful at all to BB USERS who will get this phone. If you're not getting the phone, then what do BB users care what you think about it?

I will never get an Apple anything after my experience with them, but I would never go on an Apple forum to state that. What do they care? It's a useless post on that forum, just like yours is on thisone.

Where did you see the word "positive"? I believe I said "useful". So yes, I would say unless you have something "useful" to say, then save it. "Too little too late" isn't useful to anybody.

Ok, so does that mean that you are the one to determine what is useful? If not, who makes the determination? What if someone doesn't agree with the determination that a post is or isn't useful?

how is commenting on the release date not useful? or that os7 is basically os6 which is os 5 which is os 4.5 which is os4.3 which is os 4 which is os 3 etc etc? i pulled my 7260 out and it has the same general look and feel as os 6. sure the graphics are nicer, but at the end of the day its the same freakin kernal from 2003....and that is HIGHLY useful information. deciding between ios5 and bbos7 is a no brainer in terms of computational ability and robustness. slapping a 2003 os on a 2010 processor is handy sure, but you are still limited. and that is not opinion...BTW...i am a current 9650 user so i am a USER as you pointed out.

Like many of the comments here I'll add..........finally.

I really like the way RIM has configured these handsets. Unlike Apple with one-size-fits-all handset, RIM gives buyers significantly more choice.

Want an entertainment centric device with a big screen and don"t care about a keyboard....9850.

Want a big screen but with a keyboard......9810.

Want a keyboard and a more communication centric device.....9900.

All with latest gen high speed processors, liquid graphics, great cameras plus many other new features. RIM can now really hold its head up with these nextgen products unlike the 9800 which lauched with lastgen technology.

Now let's hope people buy them......

I'm still so torn. The only reason I can see myself picking the Bold tonight is if I really think NFC is going to be prevalent. I have to be honest, I'm not really buying it yet. Otherwise, the Torch II or Torch Touch 9850 seem like better devices. /sigh

I haven't seen a retail location with NFC, so, why does it matter? Your decision shouldn't be based on NFC *shrug*

This is awesome. I love my Torch 9800, only complaint was wishing it had a faster processor (although it does not lag w/most usage) and a higher res screen.Now RIM has addressed these issues and then some with the 9810. I probably will check out the 9900 & full screen Torch as well, but I'm pretty happy with the 9800 form factor.

So...the only issue is whether developers will support 0S7-personally I think RIM should keep launching their own in-house apps like BB Travel & BB Traffic (now give us turn by turn navigation w/voice like Android!).

RIM has screwed up so badly I month think they will be able to truly recover. I mean, what the hell is up with these "smartphones"? They are the same pieces of boring technology that has been available for years now. Sure, some would say that they are "packed" with new features like 1GHz processors and OS 7 and ´Liquid Graphics" but what the hell do those things actually mean?

1GHz Processor - I am like are you kidding me? Who the hell on a BB needs that sort of horsepower? what CPU intensive tasks can one do on a BB? Texting? Messaging? or…? What? seriously, what do you need 1GHz for?. Some people say that they needed that much power to be able to run BB7, which brings me to the next point;

OS 7 - A key feature of this smartphones apparently, and one the one reason it took all year to take this phones to the market. Basically OS 6 with a facelift. Oh wait, OS 6 was OS 5 with a facelift; so lets just call OS 7 a prettier OS 5. And I challenge you, the BB fans to tell me what is actually NEW, that makes this phones unique from other smartphones in that they can do things no other can?
OS 7 is just garbage. Its prettier, and thats about it.

Liquid Graphics - Made to take advantage of incredible apps that are loaded with graphics like… and….. and of course…. hmm…. what did you say you needed liquid graphics for?

So to sum my comment up:

1.- What do you really need 1 GHz for?
2.- How is OS 7 new, and what makes it better than say iOS 5?
3.- What the hell on a BB takes advantage of Liquid Graphics?

And please don't come here immaturely calling me a troll, these are genuine questions.

You should ask yourself those questions and if the answers are:

1. I don't
2. It's not, and it's not
3. Nothing

Then you can safely keep, or purchase your Iphone or Android and keep moving


Imho, yes a company should be the one to "market" their product, but I believe that it is ultimately up to the consumer to do the full research on a product. The only way you can find out which product is better for YOU is to compare them, otherwise you're going off the facts that a company gives you. Half the time this leads to disappointment.

Some people might find Android appealing, others iOS, and others BB OS7.

The iOS interface has gone basically unchanged, yet this is only a problem on Blackberry?

And what makes OS7 better than iOS5? I haven't used either yet, but I can tell you the networking in OS6 is better than the networking in iOS 4.3.3. At least on my Blackberry I can use my apps over my company internet via the proxy server whereas on my iPod Touch, only Safari will work and not even the core apps like the app store. Oh yeah, and when I have to change my corporate wifi login password every 45 days, it takes me under 20 seconds on my BB. Still haven't figured it out on the iPod Touch. I can change my proxy password no problem, but when it comes to the MSCHAP/PEAP credentials, the setting is nowhere to be found. If I open Safari, it will ask for me to enter my credentials... every time I open Safari. There's no way to make it permanent.

So in summary: iOS is not for everyone so don't act like everyone wants it because they don't.

The Bold for ATT will not be released until later this year...sometimes I really wonder what in the world is wrong with RIM! Trying to keep up with the Iphone and failing! Now the flagship phone which should be the first released is put on hold..REALLY?

Can't decide between the alll Touch or the Samsung Galaxy S 2? Soomeone please refresh me why we are crazy BB addicts again! Why are they better than Android! Plz remind me.

They may not be better to you. Only you can answer that. (Notice I DID NOT say "when you find out the answer, come back and let us know") :)

so excited that the new OS 7 BBs are announced... now i have the problem of deciding which one to get

They are attractive looking phone. RIM has further refined their product. The new processor and the tweaked OS should address the poor performances issues that some people found with the UI on the original Torch

That said I see nothing significantly new or better with the new phones or OS 7 that would lure back someone who has moved to Android or iOS. I also don't see anything that would make a first time customer get excited.

Nobody is talking about the battery life? Did you realize, that the standby time of the Bold 9900 is only 12 days on UMTS? Thats 5 days less than on the Bold 9780. Very pure!!

so its official, RIm officially announced these phones still without pricing or release date lol. we still know nothing that we didnt already know. how does apple have such good PR where when they officialy announce something they give a dead on specific date. I wish all the other smartphone manufacturers learn to have T's crossed and I's dotted when there ready to announce to the masses.

I'm not dogging RIM, but I really do wish I understood their marketing strategy.

Just glad they finally, officially announced these devices.

Does anyone have information on when we might hear from Verizon? I'm ready for upgrade - to the point that Verizon is actually BUGGING me to change phones :) I want one of these!!!

Yup, if its not an iPhone, well, its just not an iPhone. My troll comment for the day. Ha ha. I do love my iphone, but, I gotta say iM glad to see some new devices from BB come. My BB days ended at 9630 Tour, then a stint with Android for a year and half. I like the fact that all these new devices will always keep the manufactures looking to top the other respectively. That way, WE the users will always have choices. I just sent my OG 8330 (solid phone I might add) to my son who was phoneless. Anyways, good job BB.

I hope these don't launch in the September-October time frame. If so, Apple will close the lid on RIM's coffin. I don't see how people put up with them - Android and iOS are able to manage multiple email accounts and have many more well developed applications. I saw that this new Bold is supposed to be $300? Are they serious? They now have a 1+ GHz processor, while others have started using dual-core processors for better battery life. A $300 iPhone is worth it if it has at least 32 GB of memory, but Android phones like the T-Mobile G2x and Sensation 4G are only $200 and they are much more powerful than ANY BlackBerry ever built (including these new disappointing models) and have higher quality materials (glass rather than plastic screens). The Samsung Galaxy SII practically shuts down any phone out there when it comes to pure performance. If Apple does put out a cheap contract-free iPhone it's all over for RIM, most definitely. I've even seen corporations switching their employees from BlackBerries to iPhones because iPhones are so much more capable (applications, productivity, and email). The only thing RIM has over Android and iOS is BBM, and they are about to lose that advantage when iMessage is released.

hey kids! these phones are awesome. i have the 9810 and a playbook, what an awesome combo! i feel sorry for android and iphone users. why? because they're fools. who wants a trashy piece of hardware from some company who makes kitchen appliances? who wants a phone where the distinguishing features are rarely used because the irresponsible manufacturer puts blingy specs ahead of efficiency and battery life (and over all usefullness)? i don't because i happen to know better... apps are lame. i have an android player that works just fine on my playbook, but guess what? i have not downloaded a single app BECAUSE they all suck. i don't see what all this fuss about "android apps" is all about, oh ya, i forgot, it all boils down to human stupidity and clever mass distraction from reality.

so go ahead and "troll" somemore on the blackberry fan site and call me immature, i dont care what your uneducated ego has to say, you're pointless. go away now.

thanks peace