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Posted by naviwilliams Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 1601 days ago

Nicely done, David. I'm truly impressed, mainly because you gave a TRUE description of the device, not just your likes; as some reviews do...

What I want to know is, can one load the OS from the 8320 on a 8300? And, would it work; I obviously understand the wifi part wouldn't work, but, you get my point...

 
 
Posted by Wayne Schulz Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 1601 days ago

It seems like quite a few people have run into issues when trying to use the RIM software that automatically swaps devices. I am guessing that's what tech support went through with you by having you wipe and then only selectively restore files.

I hope that the reception problem isn't widespread. My 8320 arrives tomorrow and I plan to test it for a while.

 
 
Posted by MMB916 Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 1601 days ago

Thank you, David. It really felt like I received one myself and was going through the steps with you. The details were extremely helpful, especially regarding WiFi! Also, great that T-Mobile had the sense to include a case unlike att.
Keep us posted. Enjoy!

 
 
Posted by skindoc Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 1601 days ago

Instead of use the "Switch Device Wizard" in the Desktop Manager, I was advised to uninstall the old version and use the one that came with the 8320. I did this and all of my contacts/calendar info flowed smoothly from Outlook to my new Curve. Hopefully, this may save someone else from having issues when upgrading devices.

 
 
Posted by kasperapd Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 1601 days ago

What device were you using before, and were you able to still get UMA after restoring all of your data?

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Wednesday, Sep 26, 2007 1600 days ago

hello, you don't need to do the backup/restore method. Just simply connect your new phone to your pc and sync... then setup your customizations again as your changing bberry platforms (e.g. 8700 to 8300 or 8800 to 8300) Then UMA will work much better. I had no problems whatsoever with my 8300 and tmobile.

 
 
Posted by tmag2005 Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 1601 days ago

Yet another good review, and being one of the first WiFi BB's, its a shame there are issues but glad you got your new toy...

 
 
Posted by John216 Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 1601 days ago

Great Review!! I too had the same troubles but the selective restore is definetly the key to my worries. It works great now and transitions from network to wifi with ease. Again 2 thumbs up on the review, I've gone to every forum on the net and yours has been the greatest review by far, maybe because I too went through UMA Hell when I first got the device.

 
 
Posted by John216 Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 1601 days ago

Wait a minute....take a look at www.tmobile.com and look at the Blackberry 8320's features...does my eyes decive me or does it say video camera!?!?! This is the first I've heard of this or is it just a typo? But it clearly states "Capture short video clips to keep for yourself or share with friends and family." hmmmmm....is this an untapped resource?

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 1601 days ago

The OS that shipped with the 8320 doesn't have video recording capabilities.

Maybe on the next OS coming out...but definitely doesn't have it.

 
 
Posted by kasperapd Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 1601 days ago

Definitely no option for video recording right now... Hopefully in a future OS release.

 
 
Posted by czhang Wednesday, Apr 30, 2008 1383 days ago

So when a new OS comes out, will it be available for this BB?

 
 
Posted by JGreg Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 1601 days ago

Thanks for the review. I have to agree that RIM needs to swat a few more bugs in this new, potentially great device.

In addition to the problems you and others have pointed out regarding Wi-Fi, I have been unable to use my BT headset with the 8320 while on Wi-Fi. The T-Mobile CSR rep said, "yep, we know about that, there is a conflict between the BT and Wi-Fi signals". When I asked when this would be addressed the CSR responded, "I am not sure but you can use a corded headset in the meantime". Arghh!

 
 
Posted by kasperapd Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 1601 days ago

I hadn't even tried that yet. I have been too busy getting the UMA to work correctly. But the CSR's response is not what I would expect.

 
 
Posted by SoldatCrinale Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 1601 days ago

This happens with all early adopters of a new device. I think once T-Mo really works with the 8320...everything will be fixed. i too am a early a adopter(still have yet to recieve mine) but i know for a fact ill run into the same issues...thanks for the heads up david. I know what i am in for. I still cant wait to enjoy my first BB...SCREW YOU DANGER!

 
 
Posted by Art Wednesday, Sep 26, 2007 1600 days ago

Yup, first thing i did after getting the new device is nuke the WiFi system.

Glad to see I'm in good company :-)

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Thursday, Sep 27, 2007 1599 days ago

am i able to use the blackberry desktop software to input all my address/phone contact info w/o manually typing it into the device itself? (i'm a newbie) i tried to figure it out last nite but can't seem to do it?

 
 
Posted by Michael CrackBerry Thursday, Sep 27, 2007 1599 days ago

I had the Pearl since Sept. 2006 and I recall issues with it until patches came out about 45 days after its debut. So IMHO we all have to be patient with the Curve.

I too got the Curve for hotspot @home use. I have "UMA" indicated and the hotpot connection. Have made a few calls with it. But based on your review, I dare not perform a total restore, I'll just restore my contacts.

So what else do I find uber cool on the Curve:

I inserted my Pearl's 4GB MicroSDHC chip into the Curve and it fired right up. That was a big question in my mind. While I knew the Curve supported 4GB chips, I wondered if videos formatted for the Pearl [a special avi format] would work on the Curve.

In fact, all the files on my 4GB chip played on the Curve [music, pics, video, ring tones]. That was a pleasant surprise as I was able to set up my ringtones to play on the Curve.

I played my videos on it, full screen. Love the "play full screen" option. Man that is worth the price of admission right there. I love the larger display, that is, larger than the Pearl's. Videos on the Curve feel like an "iMax" experience compared to the Pearl's display size.

Played some MP3 files with my high end 3.5mm headphones. Got to love that 3.5 mm jack over the Pearl's 2.5 mm port.

I also like the fit and finish. The rubberized side rails are far better than the Pearl's plastic chrome-painted rails.

What is really cool is that my batteries from my 7100t and the 8100 Pearl work in the Curve. But even better is my Seidio extended battery [what I call the "medium" extended battery] works in it too.

So the Curve cover would fit PERFECT I removed the little black foam pad in the middle of the cover. The cover fit over the battery with that foam on, but it was a little snug. Took off the foam square and the battery cover fits over the medium battery perfect, as if the OEM battery is in there.

I also like that I was able to use my old USB charger on the Curve [I have the USB charger hooked up to my desk in a permanent spot and the Pearl sat in a holder on the desk, while charging.] Was great to just swap the Pearl with the Curve on my "charging station.

Took some pics. The Curve takes better pics than the Pearl, as I guess it should being it's a 2mp instead of the Pearl's 1.3mp.

Oh, on the sound, I guess RIM improved the speaker over that which was on the Pearl. The Curve's speaker [when I played a movie] was super loud and sounded good for a phone.

Over the past 1.5 months I have been using hotspot @home with a Nokia 6086 hotspot phone. I used about 1200 minutes during the day, for FREE with the hotspot service. My regular cell plan used 238 minutes. I'm loving the savings with the hotspot @home service. I don't have to watch my minutes any longer, even though I have the 1000 minutes for $40 plan.

All in all I don't mind waiting for T-Mo to work out the bugs on hotspot @home or the Curve. One of the reasons I love T-Mo is because of their great support, their prices and that they are always working on getting things just right for us.

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Thursday, Sep 27, 2007 1599 days ago

Great Supplemental Review! Having used both the Pearl and the Curve, I can totally relate to your comparison. Spot on!

Enjoy the 8320!!!

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Sunday, Sep 30, 2007 1596 days ago

Hello, and thanks for great information.

I use T-Mobile. If I get the Curve and travel overseas can I use a wifi network to send and receive calls with my US number?

There is no support for GSM in Japan so my phone does not work there, so if it works on a wifi network in Japan that will really help.

I own a wifi router in Japan, but it would be nice to us on other wifi networks.

It should work but maybe T-Mobile block non-US IP addresses.

 
 
Posted by quachthi Monday, Oct 01, 2007 1595 days ago

i found ur website from google....anyway....very good info...thanks ...but i do have a question....i just bought the phone today ...got no time to play with it yet...i wonder if this version will allow us to do video recording on this..please email thanks......and if any cool software for this version please inform me ...thanks again

 
 
Posted by Jimmy Wednesday, Oct 03, 2007 1593 days ago

Wow!! It's as if "I" wrote this review!! I was having the SAME exact problems with UMA as you were!!! Sometimes mine would work, sometimes my wife's would, etc. Sometimes it would work at night and then not work the next day. I think I figured out the problem.

2 things:

1) Tmobile was having a problem mostly in California with their UMA servers, so some people (including me) were having problems with UMA connectivity. I think it may have gotten fixed.

2) I decided that my router (although a brand new FIOS verizon router) wasn't giving my curve the love that it needed, so I got the linksys tmobile router (free after rebates) and piggy backed that onto my system and route my UMA call through that.

Problems solved for now.

I love the whole concept of it all, but yeah... until the bugs get worked out.. it kind of is sketchy at the moment.

Thanks for your review. Very helpful!

 
 
Posted by James S Wednesday, Oct 03, 2007 1593 days ago

I bought the 8320 yesterday from a T-Mobile store in the Philly burbs. The phone is actually aweome. However, there were a few MASSIVE problems I had to contend with. The biggest being the Wi-Fi and UMA. After speaking to 8, yes 8! people from T-Mobile, I fought them tooth and nail to speak to someone from Blackberry... after 4 hours of battling, they finally got me over to someone at RIM to help resolve why my phone would not see my existing Wi-Fi network. I was using a Belkin Wirless G, MIMO router. I went as far as adding the MAC address of the phone to the router which sorta solved the problem and the devices could see each other. However, I dont believe the router was allowing data traffic...it def was not allowing UMA. After an hour on phone with the very helpful guy from RIM, i decided to wait for the following day and purchase the nearly free D-Link router from T-Mobile. However, before I did this, I went to Starbucks and watched my phone light up in their hotspot with both Wi-Fi and UMA. The phone worked beautifully... then I went next door to Panera bread where they have free Internet access...my phone would NOT connect to their free wi-fi. Apparently RIM or T-Mobile doesnt allow these devices to work in an interoperable environment... that sucks! HOWEVER, I bought the T-Mobile router, replaced my existing (and brand new) router, fired it up, and PRESTO... my phone is working beautifully in my house. Both Wi-Fi and UMA!! No glitches. Morale of this story... BUY THE T-MOBILE ROUTER...and you will avoid the massive amount of headaches I did. Note to T-Mobile, update the Curve's OS to allow for seemless interoperability with other non-proprietary routers... and you will crush the competition. (btw, I also switched from ATT of 10 years to T-Mobile because of this phone and service!)

 
 
Posted by Gold Friday, Oct 05, 2007 1591 days ago

Hi guys just ordered the curve from tmob and im giving up my 8800 (GPS) for this monster BB. every where i read they are saying this BB is the king of kings wow never seen a BB device w so many (+) reviews.

 
 
Posted by kenwolf Saturday, Oct 06, 2007 1590 days ago

I'm using ATT, but they dont have the 8320, seems only T Mobil does. I travel the US alot, and therefore hesitant to go with T Mobil, as I hear the coverage is spotty, not that ATT is that great. Would appreciate feedback from you T Mobil people, as I want the new Curve 8320.

 
 
Posted by Justin Saturday, Oct 27, 2007 1569 days ago

I saw your comment and i wanted to answer any questions that you have about T-Mobile or the 8320. T-Mobile's coverage has expanded greatly in the past 1-2 years! Depending on what part of the country you live in, we have been rated the company with the least dropped calls and the best audio quality by several research companies. Also we have unparalleled customer service, best in wireless industry by far! let's chat

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 1520 days ago

Hello, I just got the red bberry 8310 from AT&T and I just realized that there is no AIM with it. I really wanted to have that feature but is it really necessary. I didn't get the 8320 from T-Mobile bcoz it was really expensive. Is there a really bug difference between the two devices?

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Friday, Jan 25, 2008 1479 days ago

I absolutely LOVE this phone. This totally whips my old HP8310 touch screen phone.... i made the mistake of switching to nextel...what a joke. That was the biggest mistake i have ever made. I cancelled my nextel contract early to get back with tmobile, and i have to say this, tmobile has THE BEST customer service EVER!! (i agree with the above statement). I contacted tmobile to ask them a question, there response WITH answering my question, "mr. *** were sorry you had to contact us and take time out of your schedule...here's a 100 free minutes", and i called them. anyways. Tmobile blackberry curve 8820 has ALL messangers aim, icq, yahoo, msn, gmail, and blackberry mess. BLAZZZING FAST email/text messaging. use whole mp3's for ringtones. OUTSTANDING picture quality. comes with a pouch. Sorry im rambling. If ANYONE has any questions about this crackberry let me know. :)....

 
 
Posted by ryrycalguy Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 1440 days ago

...I have to say that this phone is just absolutely amazing. I moved from Verizon, which I had no problem with except that I didn't have service inside my house. Hotspot@Home took care of that. Anyway, although the 8320 comes with all the chat apps (i.e. AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, GTalk, etc.) I just deleted them and download JiveTalk cuz it uses my data plan instead of my text message plan. A big thing for me was that JiveTalk showed my whole AIM buddylist and not that annoying "Mobile Device" contacts list that AIM Mobile has. You should call TMo directly and ask if they have any corporate discounts for you because I was able to get the Curve for only 99.99 after rebate and 15% off of my monthly bill.

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Friday, Oct 12, 2007 1584 days ago

All,

When having flaky issues with UMA, check to see that your router is IPSEC (UDP port 500) friendly. I know first hand that the older linksys 54G routers do not like IPSEC traffic. You may want to take a look at DLINK.

I am using a Cisco PIX firewall and have no issues with UMA at all after allowing IPSEC traffic.

 
 
Posted by JellyBean Monday, Oct 15, 2007 1581 days ago

Does the 8320 have AIM?

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Friday, Nov 09, 2007 1556 days ago

After two great weeks with my BlackBerry & UMA, it started dropping UMA for mobile connection even when standing next to a router; even if "Wi-Fi Preferred" is selected under MANAGE CONNECTIONS/MOBILE NETWORK OPTIONS. I have confirmed this to be a non-isolated issue since my friend's BlackBerry Curve suffers the same problem.

To band-aid the situation, we go to MANAGE CONNECTIONS then untick the MOBILE NETWORK box. UMA comes back and remains. Suck part is when we leave a Wi-Fi area, we have to remember to tick the MOBILE NETWORK box again. I myself have done this for a week and getting tired of it.

My wife has no problems with her Nokia Wi-Fi phone with the slight exception being it is sometimes slow to switch over from mobile connection to UMA. Once it switches from mobile connection to UMA, it stays on UMA, unlike my BlackBerry Curve.

I reported my findings & temporary solution to T-Mobile last night and hopefully a permanent solution is in the works.

 
 
Posted by Roseellen99 Friday, Feb 08, 2008 1465 days ago

WOW! Like YOU, I can't beleive this BB is such a PIA! My experience with BB is much the same as yours. I received my new curve 1-29-08. What a nightmare! I spent 7 days and nights reading these post on crackberry, talking to customer service, at the T-Momile store, on and on and on. Loading, changing things adding things. If there is a word for the curve its a "JOB".
Not compatable with Windows outlook business contact manager, can't Wi-Fi connect to home 2Wire or company net gear Router, just to mention a couple of MANY unresolved issues with the BB curve! (I know what you are thinking, I'm incompetent, but I exhausted all resources including the T-Mo experts on site, read 100's of posts, many here) I didn't need another JOB that consumes many hours of my day, I need a phone and email and access to my customer data base that is seamless and trouble free! I need to be connected at home in the office, and in the car, BB is anything but seamless!
2-7-08 I returned it to T-Mobile. Just grabbed, at random, a T-Mo WING and took it home. WOW 3 hours later "ALL" is up and running, Business contact manager loaded and working well, voice calling is clear and exact, connected to work and home router instantly! What a "JOY" and not a "JOB".
The only BB issue I have to resolve is uninstalling BB desktop manager! It locks up my Vista and will not uninstal. So a sys restore back to 1-28-08 to make the last BB PIA go away and Good bye BB Curve!

 
 
Posted by Philscbx Wednesday, Feb 27, 2008 1446 days ago

Actually, I'm just boxing up my 8320. I loved it at first.
14 days to the mark, but I wasn't ready for the torture.
I wish there was a easy way to hard reset the handset before I ship it back.
I scanned the menu's, and see no option.

1. Out there on the road where I've used my 3 year old T7100 BB for traveling to Europe using prepaid T-Mobile was great. That was the extra Plus.

Europe has a rule unlike here in the States. All incoming calls - no charge.
My 50 Euro prepaid, lasted all month in Amsterdam.
Cross a country border is another story. You will need that countries card.
Don't be surprised when you get home from using US number overseas and see $500 staring you in the face.

T-Mobile will not tell you the real facts about the $5 a minute handshake it took to find you over there. Just a warning in real time.

2. So Far with the 8320, I have had many cases where the number I called could not hear or even have a clue I was on line hearing them perfectly.
Maybe 2 out of 10 calls made, no connection of my mic.

3. I needed to clean up the many screen icons to simplify life.
Priority was creating 2 new shiny application folders. One for all Browser activity, and one for all Utilities.
That's 15 icons in a new shiny green folder.
12 items for all Utilities in bright blue one.
That leaves a home screen with 17 icons including 2 new folders.

4. Later in the week, I set up the wifi and bluetooth to the Apple Powerbook.
Not really a easy feat at first being some of the required actions to make are hidden from main menu.
I could go on deeper about it's menu system, and have 4 pages of notes.
To my surprise, the 8320 could see Wifi from the house to the shop at 250 ft.

5. Moving SIM card.
For some reason, creating new addresses the last year or so never made it to the SIM card on the T7100.

This was a major hassle, as everyone I needed to contact was on the address book of the old handset and not on the Sim. So the T7100 had to ride shotgun a few days until I stopped needing therapy.

6. The trackball is a major hit. Brightly lit, and super fast, and maybe too sensitive in wordy posts to grab what it went passed a couple times.
It has a great Video Player, and wish it had a recorder.

The camera is better than expected, and bluetooth passed the images over to the Apple Laptop quite well.

The Voice Dialing feature works better than expected,
but has an attitude at moments.

Mapping for me is a love thing.
I may never be satisfied, but the 8320 does it very well.
I could lock on to the street outside of Amsterdam I stay at.

7. I wear reading glasses for small print.
I can easily access any key action on the T7100 without glasses, which I believe is similar to the Pearl's key pad.
But the 8320 without reading glasses in poor lighting, you better know where the keys are. This just happens to be my handicap with this guy.
If it had on screen touch access to larger keys, I'm sure I'd keep it.

I tried to bluetooth to MyPal Asus, and it sees it, but that's it.
I think this is where the WING is to my advantage, and the larger keypad.

8. The 8320 is slim.
Placing a digital caliper across the T7100's screen to the back side is 19MM.
The 8320 is 16MM thick.
The T7100 is 55-57mm wide, 119mm long.
The 8320 is 62mm wide, 107mm long.

9. As Roseellen has gone, I'm sure to follow.
My hat's off to those who can make the 8320 rock.

 
 
Posted by David Szymanski Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1363 days ago

Hey,

I'm about to purchase my first Blackberry Curve from Tmobile and I was wondering what I should expect for setting it up with my Mac Book Pro.

Hope its not to hard.
Please feel free to contact me back at my email address.
davidjszymanski@gmail.com

Thanks,

David

 
 
Posted by Cory Lusher Tuesday, Jun 10, 2008 1342 days ago

Good afternoon,

On my T-Mobile Blackberry Curve it provides two message boxes - one for text and one for the e-mail address I have configured.

Would you know why, when I send an e-mail, it also places a copy of the e-mail (either sent or received) in my text message box? Is this a feature I can correct so that my e-mails only show in my e-mail message box?

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Cory Lusher

 
 
Posted by offshore it outsourcing Monday, Jul 14, 2008 1308 days ago

This is probably a just a rumor - taken from other rumors which could very well end up being true. So more than likely, at some point in the future, there will be a Mac Tablet with a unique form factor.

 
 
Posted by search engine optimization Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 1307 days ago

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Posted by wlkelly Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 1188 days ago

I am on the verge of leaving Verizon after 10 years due to no cell phone signal in my home in Hockessin, DE. I am looking at obtaining the Blackberry 8320 for the same reasons as David. Hopefully, this will resolve my in home problems. What makes it even more urgent that I find a solution is that I now work from my home office. Before committing to T-Mobile and the 8320, does anyone have an alternative recommendation? Have the problems David mentioned in his review more than a year ago been resolved? Is there a newer Blackberry model being talked about that will supersede the 8320 in the foreseeable future? Thanks for the input.

Bill Kelly

 
 
Posted by Keving813 Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 1186 days ago

I just got the BB 8320 from T-mobile and i have not had anyproblems with the uma in my house....and also there is a new OS that you can get threw the tmobile website that lets you stream/capture video! its very simple to upload using the Desktop Manager. Im loving mine :)

 
 
Posted by Rklm1 Wednesday, May 19, 2010 634 days ago

Thanks man okey oyna