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Posted by six4seven Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 963 days ago

First

..this is dumb by the way

 
 
Posted by Frank2029 Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 963 days ago

your mom is dumb

 
 
Posted by rbracht Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 963 days ago

i like steak

 
 
Posted by crysis63 Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 963 days ago

-_-

 
 
Posted by codeyh Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 963 days ago

After the Phoenix situation, Balsillie's done. There's no way that the NHL is going to sell him a franchise.

Why? His wrong moves (especially with Nashville) no...
Why? Rodier being a sketchy, slimy hunchback? no...

Toronto. There's no way that Toronto's going to allow another team in Ontario. So sorry, but it's true.

 
 
Posted by wirelessgal Monday, Oct 05, 2009 962 days ago

It's not Toronto that doesn't want another team here, it's Buffalo. Hamilton has been itching for an NHL team for along time now and that's close to where Buffalo is. Buffalo was close to bankrucpty a few years ago, but the NHL bailed them out. They never sell out, so they feel threatened if a team was to come to Hamilton. The Leafs is completely sold out for the first part of the season. They always sell out, so they don't have an issue now. They did many years ago when an agreement was made with the NHL to not bring a team situated between Toronto and Buffalo.

Anyway, Gary Bettman hates Canada, everyone knows that. He should retire already and hire someone who would look after all teams equally.

 
 
Posted by Xander99 Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 963 days ago

The NHL has had it's share of clueless financiers leading various teams. I don't mind a team in Hamilton, but not under Balsilie's ownership nor as major shareholder. We don't need another Harold Ballard.

 
 
Posted by S_E_P_35 Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 963 days ago

did they die?

 
 
Posted by Rev0lver Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 963 days ago

Just because a team is in canada doesn't mean it'll be a cash cow. Franchises have sailed everywhere - Winnepeg, Montreal, New York, Quebec...you know why? They sucked!

You can have the best management, biggest mountain of cash to sit on, everything...it means nothing if you have no product worth watching on the ice. Why did the Hurricanes make it in Raleigh? Why did the Stars make it in Dallas? Hint: It's got to do with a certain piece of hardware they've won and have come close to winning on multiple occasions.

 
 
Posted by SuperMesh Monday, Oct 05, 2009 963 days ago

So, is it coincidence that all 6 Canadian teams are in the top 10 of revenue generated in the NHL? Tell me why, regardless of the team's season record, Canadian teams continue to sell out each and every game, each and every year.

Also, by your logic... Tampa Bay should be rolling in the money because of 03-04... have you seen the crowd at St. Pete Times Arena?

 
 
Posted by Rev0lver Friday, Oct 09, 2009 958 days ago

If it's so coincidential, why did the Jets move? Why did the Nordiques move? It's not nearly so cut and dry as that, friend. All of my statistics have been taken from October 5-11th edition of Sports Business Journal.

There have been 9 teams in the NHL Sun Belt expansion from the 90s - San Jose, Anaheim, Phoenix, Dallas, Nashville, Atlanta, Florida, Tampa Bay, and Carolina.

The league average of NHL attendance in the last three season has been 17,229. Of the Sun Belt teams in the NHL's recent expansion, three of those teams have actually been over-performing compared to that baseline: Tampa (18,356), Dallas (17,878), and San Jose (17,440).

Two Belt teams are performing on par with the NHL average: Carolina (16,864) and Anaheim (16,855).

Four of the team have been under performing: Atlanta (15,589), Florida (15,476), Nashville (15,060), and Phoenix (14,895).

There's a trend here: All of the teams performing on or above par with the NHL average have either won a Stanley Cup and have been making the playoffs on a somewhat consistent basis; or have just been good teams who have made the playoff with legitimate Stanley Cup winning potential.

Winnepeg had obscene operating costs, and was like the fourth smallest market the NHL had, and they flat out sucked. Guess what? They had to move!

The Nordiques made the playoffs twice in eight years. The canadian dollar was VERY weak by 95ish, and Quebec city was by far the smallest market the NHL had at the time. compound that with rising player salaries, and you've got a flop on your hands.

Hockey can succeed in unlikely markets. You just need to not suck.

 
 
Posted by codito Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 963 days ago

Doesn't matter who he buys Red Wings will always be supreme!

 
 
Posted by Skynyrdfan5 Monday, Oct 05, 2009 963 days ago

That is all

 
 
Posted by Rev0lver Monday, Oct 05, 2009 963 days ago

You're better off not commenting about subjects you know nothing about. Ensures that you don't end up looking like a fool.

 
 
Posted by SuperMesh Monday, Oct 05, 2009 963 days ago

Agreed... go buy yourself an iPhone and make yourself feel better about your all mighty opinion.

 
 
Posted by Ziggi_cam Monday, Oct 05, 2009 963 days ago

SuperMesh..
You know i wish he would have gotten the team up there..And hockey has to do with the fans. Take for example the NY Rangers they always have a pretty full arena. I know its Madison Square Garden but its NYR hockey. and they have only a couple of cups only one in the past 40 years.. It depends on fans and there love for there team and canada has alot of hockey fans..and so does the US...FANS FANS FANS. like in the baseball movie. IF YOU BUILD IT THEY WILL COME....

 
 
Posted by SuperMesh Tuesday, Oct 06, 2009 961 days ago

I know that the US has lots of fans. Take Minnesota for example, in 2007 (not sure if it still applies), they sold out every single game since the expansion went there.

No doubt in my mind that hockey will be nothing but money in St. Paul, but places like Tampa and Florida have no business in hockey.

Florida went to the cup finals in 95-96, small strong fan base.
Tampa WON the cup in 03-04, still no strong fan base. To expand on this point, during the SC finals, Calgary had the C of Red and Tampa had their fans wear white. My point behind this is that the fans in Calgary all bought their own merchandise to contribute to the C of Red. Ticket holders going to the SC finals received FREE WHITE T-SHIRTS to get the arena looking white. Even if Calgary didn't win the cup, the revenue generated is making ownership laugh at Tampa.

My point is that even if teams win, if there is no market, there will be no success.

And hockey isn't the only sport. I believe the latest Canada-US casualty are the now defunct Vancouver Grizzlies. Anyone remember that?

 
 
Posted by jlb21 Monday, Oct 05, 2009 963 days ago

"Want my advice? Offer the NHL that you'll buy two teams. I'm sure if you told Gary Bettman you'll stick one of the teams back in Winnipeg (Bring Back the Jets!) they'll let you put your second team wherever you want it. Hell, I'll even manage the Jets for you!"

Oh come on now.......are you serious?!?! Everyone knows the best team of the former WHA was the New England/Hartford Whalers. That's the ticket! :)