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Posted by joeybuckets Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

That was quick!! Thanx ATT

 
 
Posted by Trader Z Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

Where the F'k is the official release for the Bold 9000?

F RIM and F AT&T

 
 
Posted by chochopr Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

9700 is what's up! out with the old and in with the NEW!

 
 
Posted by uncle.bob Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

Where the F' OS for the Bold 9000??
OMG,this is totaly jerk,always for onyx 9700..

 
 
Posted by Gobrewcrew Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

can anybody tell me if there is a way to do an official os upgrade without having to do a reinstallation of all the 3rd party applications and their licenses? thanks for the help.

 
 
Posted by flash24 Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

Unfortunately, you have to re-enter your licenses whenever you upgrade/downgrade.

Back up your device so you wont have to re-install everything. Use BBSAK or something.

Whenever I back up my device using DM all my 3rd party apps are backed up as well. Just have to re-enter the licenses.

 
 
Posted by Gobrewcrew Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

thnaks flash24.this is why i hate upgrades.will think about doing it.

 
 
Posted by flash24 Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

I'll stick with .421

It has been working flawlessly for me.

 
 
Posted by keirazka Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

I'm downloading now. Hopefully will work fine with my T-Mobile

 
 
Posted by scottybones Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

110% totally AGREE with TraderZ!! WTF how u gun UPGRADE the OS of 9700 BEFORE the 9000!!! I been waiting for the official 5 os release for MONTHS now! WTF YO! ATT and RIM best get their mind right!

 
 
Posted by flash24 Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

That's how the cookie crumble. lol

 
 
Posted by Trader Z Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

AT&T is f'ing 9000 owners by trying to entice ppl to move up to 9700 which isnt that much better. So they are delaying any software updates for the 9000 (official ones at least).

For this reason, AT&T is losing my business once my contract is up.

 
 
Posted by Gobrewcrew Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

trader z,even though i agree with you 100% about what att is doing, i disagree with you on the 9700. it is a lot better than the 9000. it has a lot more memory,trackpad is way better,smaller device. i used to have a 9000.

 
 
Posted by Trader Z Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

I said it was better but not that much - my opinion.

I know a bunch of people who have them and I just cant get used to the smaller keys, size and it feels cheaper in the hand.

That said, the resolution, trackpad, and 5.0 software are all very nice. But I cannot justify a purchase on those merits alone. I dont use my camera and the increased memory is cool but I dont need much more -still have 50mb free.

In any event, dont need to debate 9700 vs 9000 again but I think its BS what AT&T is doing.

 
 
Posted by keirazka Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

agree with you. 9000's user deserves an equal treatment right? LOL

 
 
Posted by bradfordjohnson Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

I went from 9000 to 9700 and there is a HUGE difference in almost every aspect. The battery is the same and the 9700 gets about 3x more life out of it. Trackpad rocks. Resolution is better. Keyboard *is* smaller but still not hard to "touch type" with.

Device speed is insane faster too. An initial Google Sync with 9000 took 7-10 minutes. With the 9700 the initial Sync took about 2 minutes. That just shows how much faster it can process information.

It comes down to RIM not putting out 5.0 for legacy devices really. There are dozens of betas for 5.0 for 9000 if you want that. Nothing official because RIM hasn't refined it. NOT carrier's fault.

 
 
Posted by gberry13 Tuesday, Feb 09, 2010 835 days ago

bye bye. at&t doesnt need cry babies like u anyways.

 
 
Posted by keirazka Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

is there any alternative download site other than the official site? rapidshare would be helpful

 
 
Posted by One_Deep Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

bout to update now

 
 
Posted by mpscan Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

Go to OPTIONS > ADVANCED > WIRELESS UPDATE on your AT&T 9700. It's there and downloads OTA. Mine is doing it now. Easier than Rapidshare and connecting to the PC.

 
 
Posted by keirazka Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

thank you! will try now!

 
 
Posted by Statehouse Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

I just tried it and it wasn't there on mine? wtf?

 
 
Posted by keirazka Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

are you AT&T subscriber? if not, probably you have to update in ordinary way

 
 
Posted by Statehouse Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

I'm not sure if the 9000 operates on 5.0

I could be completely wrong about this...but do you think that the reason RIM is creating so many updates (patches) for 5.0 devices has anything to do with this particular operating system to be a little more developer friendly?

 
 
Posted by rick2123 Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

Any idea when this will be released for T-mobile customers????

 
 
Posted by Coffey123 Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

My question also, seems like TMO would've had it first.

 
 
Posted by Garz Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

Tmo will not have this version. This .405 version was designed specifically for At&t.

 
 
Posted by drew4flt72 Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

And how did you come to that conclusion?? I'm on T-Mo and have used .415 and .421 but I use .405 because it stays connected to UMA at home whereas .415/.421 wouldn't. How is this designed specifically for AT&T?? Doesn't make any sense...

 
 
Posted by Coffey123 Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

Thanks for the info.

 
 
Posted by TheRock2.0 Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

When is AT&T releasing it's 8900 version? WTH???!!!

 
 
Posted by Hey_Daniel Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

This is so unfair, I have been waiting for the OS 5 on my Blackberry 8900 for time now. I wonder when its going to be released? :-(

Sad times

 
 
Posted by volks Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

Can we download this os as T-Mobile customer?
anyone knows?
thanks

 
 
Posted by evorc Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

I've been running this on my tmo bold the day it was leaked out. Grab it now!

 
 
Posted by volks Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

your device is bold? or onyx 9700?
thanks

 
 
Posted by evorc Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

It's the 9700 onyx ofcourse, the best! get this upgrade now it has been a succesful update for me and better than .415/.421 leaks.

 
 
Posted by volks Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

So you finally installed new os on your phone, so could you please tell me what is the difference this new os with the old one?
Thanks again

 
 
Posted by syb0rg Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

Had it on my 9700 since the day one leak. and just for an FYI 9700 = bold = onyx.... the bold is the offical name, onyx is the "code name"

 
 
Posted by Stavron Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

I agree with flash24. .421 has been spot on for me. No noticable issues and apps have all been running fine. I'm stickin with the leak.

 
 
Posted by speeno green Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

is this a downgrade? cuz i have .421 and whats the difference between .405 n .421???

 
 
Posted by chopper260 Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

downloaded and installed, not really noticing a difference? seems a little quicker i suppose. what am i supposed to notice?

 
 
Posted by jolaislagrl Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

My phone said error with update, try updating the software again??

 
 
Posted by atomicpunk Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

I also received an error message about 1/2 way through the download while trying to update through desktop manager. I guess I will try again later.

 
 
Posted by JarceBerry Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

Downloaded and updating my device right now.

 
 
Posted by volks Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

so what's new?

 
 
Posted by bboldFLL Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

does anybody what the differnces are.. is it worth the upgrade.. I have mine working so well.. I would hate to change it

 
 
Posted by Lyls Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

After the update, under option in "options", I no longer have a "custom" option under the "set home screen layout". Anybody else notice this?

 
 
Posted by evorc Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

I knew it I'ved been fighting for .405 that it will be official and been running it since it got leaked. .405 FTW!!!

 
 
Posted by jflake0408 Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

i keep getting an error everytime i try to download it from my device and i get a fatal error trying to update from dm.....

 
 
Posted by syb0rg Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

Loader.exe file from the C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\AppLoader folder... after you delete the vendor.xml file... and remove it from your rec bin.

 
 
Posted by asuprice Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

Can this be done over edge?

 
 
Posted by Jleeblanch Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

I'm not a 9700 user but am an 8900 user and seeing an official OS 5.0 release for the 9700 on AT&T makes me somewhat hopeful and optimistic that an official OS 5.0 release is in the near future for the Bold 9000 & Curve 8900!! I mean, who really knows but to me it makes sense! I can't speak for the Bold 9000 but some of the latest OS 5.0 leaks for the Curve 8900 have been pretty solid! I'm currently using OS 5.0.0.411 on my Curve 8900 (OS 5.0.0.348 before that) and as smooth as my BB is running, I wouldn't know it wasn't official!!

 
 
Posted by amirnabilkamelsaad Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

Nice find

 
 
Posted by amirnabilkamelsaad Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

a

 
 
Posted by holz75 Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

...the actual OS is .405.

 
 
Posted by makuwel Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

My phone is VERY slow to boot up with the new OS.....anyone else having that issue?

 
 
Posted by syb0rg Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

I set out on .415 and .421 Beta OS's and keep using .405 while all the lemmings follow "the newest and bestest" off the cliff and this one becomes official..... pure win....

 
 
Posted by evorc Saturday, Dec 19, 2009 888 days ago

been fighting about .405 from the day it leaked!

 
 
Posted by jtwebber Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

You're telling me that you're going to give an OFFICIAL upgrade to a phone that a) is already running a great 5.0 build and b) to a phone that essentially JUST came out???

That just doesn't sit well with me.

They need to focus on getting these new high end blackberries all running 5.0 before sending out little tweaks to their newest phone. Is that too much to ask for?

 
 
Posted by REH-Jr Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

So far so good, upgrade went without a hitch. One of the bugs I had with texting large groups has been fixed.

 
 
Posted by amirnabilkamelsaad Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

Is the SMS bug fixed yet?

 
 
Posted by mtnspokes Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

Just tried a OTA upgrade and no update is available, on ATT. Hmm?? Was it pulled?

 
 
Posted by Teddyp6 Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

I think the OS you are running currently has to be an official ATT release or the wireless update won't work. I am running the last Rogers official release so I get the "no update available" as well. I am going to do it from my computer when I get home.

 
 
Posted by Teddyp6 Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

I see all the post from upset Bold 9000 users. Believe me I would be venting on AT&T as well for not releasing a 5.0 for the 9000 but due to a big screw up on ATT's part, they gave me a 9700 instead of replacing my 9000. Unfortunately don't see ATT releasing a 5.0 for the 9000 until after the new year b/c they want all those christmas 9700 sales. Hang in there, guys and girls.

 
 
Posted by reimon Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

I used the wireless upgrade option on my Bold 9700. The upgrade seemed to download and install ok, except for 1 minor error message that popped up. It didn't show up again once I did a battery pull.

"net_rim_bb_qm_peer(203) is not responding; process terminated"

weird thing its once I went into the wireless upgrade option again to check the status, it said the last upgrade succedded, but now it says I have and additional update.

It shows v5.0.0.409!!!! Should I update?

 
 
Posted by mtnspokes Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

I am on ATT. Just tried OTA again and still "no update available". I'm running 5.0.0.296 currently. Strange

 
 
Posted by amirnabilkamelsaad Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

Is your phone unlocked? mine is unlocked and using the .351 Rogers firmware and it won't do the OTA. Installed it the regular way and...it works fine.
SMS fixed BTW.

 
 
Posted by dopke Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

Has anyone gotten Chinese input to work on this one? I can only get recognition (able to read Chinese characters), but can't input... I installed the East Asia pack, and checked Chinese for installation, but it does not show in the Language/Text Input settings in the Options.

 
 
Posted by kayceeee Saturday, Dec 19, 2009 887 days ago

this one when u install it only says language and font support but theres no input support

 
 
Posted by Jf.Vigor Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

I want a 9700 :(
Even though I LOVE my 9000

 
 
Posted by arash250 Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

I downloaded the new OS and I have lost some applications such as ( task, memo pad, word to go, and couple of games) has anyone had the same problem?, and how do I get them back?

 
 
Posted by afnagel Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

I think they are probably in your applications folder.

 
 
Posted by phantomAI Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

Will the upgrade overwrite my BIS e-mail account and contacts or will it be kept intact? Other than that I haven't installed any additional apps that I can't just redownload.

Just in case, I'll backup but was curious before I go ahead.

 
 
Posted by ixdnL Friday, Dec 18, 2009 888 days ago

Is it worth going from .421 to .405?

 
 
Posted by evorc Saturday, Dec 19, 2009 888 days ago

Trust me .405 is better than .421. It's official wouldn't you feel better about it?

 
 
Posted by ixdnL Saturday, Dec 19, 2009 887 days ago

Many people are having problems with this one. Apparently "official" isn't worth much these days.

 
 
Posted by msaririan Saturday, Dec 19, 2009 888 days ago

I never thought I would say this, but my mac nuked my berry! I tried to update using the desktop manager for mac, but in the process got a 507 error.

Thank God I have a PC lying around for occasions such as this. :-)

 
 
Posted by dannygould Saturday, Dec 19, 2009 888 days ago

I updated my 9700 OTA just fine as well, but lost my Tasks and Memo Pad as well. Any insight on how to get them back. I already checked in every conceivable nook and cranny on my phone with no luck. I went to OPTIONS> ADVANCED OPTIONS> HOST ROUTING TABLE> MENU KEY> REGISTER. That didn't work either. If you know how to fix this problem, please reply.

 
 
Posted by hellboy552000 Saturday, Dec 19, 2009 887 days ago

can anyone tell me which one folder is the vendor.xml file i can't seen to get it

 
 
Posted by Maggard Saturday, Dec 19, 2009 887 days ago

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=blackberry+vendor.xml

 
 
Posted by crackberryhead Saturday, Dec 19, 2009 887 days ago

I'm stayin with .421

 
 
Posted by westinman Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 886 days ago

Anyone else have this problem ? Upgraded my 9700 to 5.0.0.405 and cold bootup takes about 4-5 minutes and worst of all, the BB feels sluggish. Just moving from icon to icon, eMail etc...

 
 
Posted by Wizzkidd09 Monday, Dec 21, 2009 886 days ago

what a gyp!!on .296 the one it came with I was able to download blackberry maps and run it, now that I have updated I cant download blackberry maps anymore. Bastards

 
 
Posted by arowana-red Monday, Dec 21, 2009 885 days ago

my bold 9700 come with soft ware platform 5.1.0.83 and OS 5.0.0.296. Can i update to OS 5.0.0.405. Any issue with diff soft platform? Thank you. Also I go to Option/advan../wireless update but it says no avaible?

 
 
Posted by slimanefares007 Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 883 days ago

I am very angry !! this software after installation is not 405 but 400 !!!
5.0.0.400 (633)
plateform : 5.1.0.110

so far dont have a problem with 5.0.0351 in SMS , with this version i have a big bug in the name of SMS ....

how is that this version can be called official

pfff

 
 
Posted by trtgt99 Friday, Dec 25, 2009 881 days ago

Stupid SMS text forwarding issue still isn't fixed. I'm beginning to wish I never upgraded from my old 9000.

 
 
Posted by bblover82 Tuesday, Mar 30, 2010 787 days ago

Of course rim is going to upgrade their latest phone first. That's just business. The bold line is the best line rim has ever made in my opinion and I'm sure an official release for the 9000 will debut soon. My wife owns a 9000 and I have a 9700. I watch for both updates all the time.