i live in NYC and i was afraid something like this would happen considering AT&T 3G network , something told me to hold off getting my eager hands on a Bold too soon.

i guess i'll REALLY have to wait until the Bold official release .

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Did the Bold work in 2G Edge/GSM mode ? or was your Bold always set to 3G ?

I'm a born and raised, very very frustrated, New Yorker!!! I don't understand why they dont sell the Bold on the EDGE network and continue to work on their 3G issue and release it when its fixed!?? They are losing a lot of business because of delay after delay after delay....!!! Consumers that had been putting up with their old crappy cells while holding off for the Bold are not waiting anymore and are just buying other cellphones! I was wondering what the difference is between Rogers network & why the Bold work so well on it and the AT&T network!??

I was in Chicago about a week and a half ago and BOY !!! my Bold was choking. Thought maybe because i flew in from a different altitude, humidity etc. I think you just confirmed that AT&T is NOT ready for the Bold.

However the fact is that unlocked devices work just fine on other networks. GSM is GSM, and unless the radio frequencies are different, any unlocked device will work with any network.
Yes, you may have to load a "native" version of the software on the phone, and you might have to spend a bit of time tweaking settings that were not originally provisioned by the parent company, but those are the only differences. It has practically nothing to do with the hardware.
Would I suggest my mother try to use a Rogers bOlD on ATT? No. But then again I gave her an iPhone so she wouldn't have to put up with actually _learning_ about a phone and how to use it. That is the epiphany of user-friendly smartphones; the PhD (as in Push Here, Dummy). It doesn't do much, but what it does it does well and easily.
Rant about features and release dates all you will, but please don't mislead people by claiming unlocked hardware "doesn't work like it should"; things can't be painted with such a broad stroke.

I'm not going to get into an argument with Melissa about this but I have never had any issues with unlocked devices on Rogers.

I don't think anyone is complaining about the BOLD here we are merely speculating as to why its not out on AT&T yet. And that speculation would be the network.

When I was in Vegas on labour day my Rogers Bold was useless on AT&T until I turned off 3G.

We are not spoiled Melissa. This is a site dedicated to ONE brand of phone, of course the people here, especially Kevin are going to nitpick. That's his JOB!

And I'm sorry, but dropped calls, restarts and errors are NOT something I come to expect of ANY phone I have owned or will own in the future, if you really think that this is something that comes with the territory when buying a new device then thats pretty crappy, cause you must have had a bad history of cell phones.

I will say this, RIM should be glad there is nothing compelling/competing on the market right now except the iPhone 3G.

Also, while I don't consider AT&Ts current line up of 3G WinMob phones to be as compelling as these 2 phones, one does have to wonder why the WinMob 3G phones on AT&T don't have the same 3G issues.

Maybe once TMO has their 1700 mhz network out They will really be giving AT&T a run for their money eh? And that's supposed to be by January.

So is AT&T working on this issue one hour a day??? I mean... long does it take to fix this issue?

I have heard from someone that At&t is having troubles with their 3G service due to the iphone taking up too much resources. My source told me that Blackberry has their own servers for emails and web, while the iphone used At&t servers.

I don't know how true this is, but judging from what I am hearing here, this looks to be true.

I have never had these problems with my Curve 8330 from Sprint. All the new Sprint plans include free roaming, so I am covered on the only issue that people say Sprint had. Even though I hadn't had coverage problem until I moved -- but then I bought a cell booster and problem was solved. Everywhere else Sprint is great, and if I go into a basement, roaming kicks in (just incase).

WCM

In the forums under the 9000/Bold discussion, Phonegeek (AT&T tester of the Bold) reported that during the various tests of the Bold, that twice they have had wholesale swaps of the Bold test units at AT&T in addition to changes of OS's to resolve issues. This lends one to believe that there might be subtle hardware changes that have been made to the Bold to make it work better (i.e., more reliable) on the AT&T network. If this is the case, then the initially released Bolds on Rogers and other countries might not work well on the AT&T network even though they might have the latest OS. Maybe someone who has the inside scoop on things might be able to shed some light on the possibility of hardware differences for AT&T released Bolds (whenever they come out).

On a side note, I believe that Melissa made some good points, even though her tone might have been interpreted incorrectly by some people. There is no doubt that there have been some significant issues with the AT&T 3G network which have affected iPhone and Bolds. These seem to be compounded with the new surge of iPhones that are clogging the 3G network, hence the drop back to EDGE. This is all leading edge (read that as bleeding edge) technology, and AT&T seems to not have done a good job preparing for the 3G onslaught of the iPhones, and is probably pushing back the release of the Bold to allow them time to correct the 3G botlenecks. But in the long run, this wait is probably good because we will all end up with a better device in our hands, albeit later than what wanted.

Kevin, why didn't you just drop your radio down to GSM instead of leaving 3G on all the time? That would have probably solved a lot of your issues. Granted, you shouldn't have to do this, but your 8300 worked fine... and it's not 3G. You should have put 2 and 2 together...

I hate having to wait longer than anyone else for the newest devices. I'm sure we all want the "new device we've been waiting for" today----not tomorrow.

That being said, priority number 1 when I do purchase a new smartphone is that everything work pretty much right out of the box. That 99% of the time when I need to use my device it has a signal and just works. This is Verizon's strong point and it's a biggie.

The great news is that people have a choice. If you want the latest-hottest device...now and you are willing to put up with some issues there's an option for you. If stability from day one is most important there's also a choice for you.

EVERYBODY WINS! YEAH!

The very best news is that the competition keeps both of them working to improve in the areas where they stink......and hopefully we all benefit.

I agree and also disagree with Melissa. We are spoiled as far as cell phone technology goes. I wouldn't go out and buy something that's not tested and true--like the iphone when it first came out nor the new 3g version either. Just too many bugs, drop calls, lost e-mail and security issues just to name a few. I had AT&T and I had drop calls. My girlfriend has a Samsung Sync flip phone with AT&T and she's complaining about drop calls (we're in America's Finest City--San Diego, Ca.)at least once a day. I had a older Samsung flip phone with Verizon 2 years ago and only had 2-3 drop calls in 1 1/2 years. I've since upgraded to a Blackberry Pearl 8130 in April 08 and then to a Blackberry Curve 8330 in June 08. And had no drop calls--I mean "0"-- with either of these devices. The Curve has been out on other networks for a couple of years before it was launched on Verizon. And I think by now almost all of the bugs--if there were any--are ironed out. And it has proven to be a really reliable workhorse and companion. I just love it! A phone is a phone. A good smartphone you should at least be able to make a call and carry a conversation without having the call drop on you.(I think this should be the prime function of any phone--smart or not. And if you have that then you can enjoy the secondary functions email, sms, mms, mp3s, games etc.
I would love to have a Blackberry Bold when all the bugs are ironed out and when it comes to Verizon. Cause AT&T has bad coverage compare to Verizon.
Right now, I'm really happy with my Blackberry Curve and I'm not looking at anything else.
BTW, this is my very first crackberry post! Luv U all!

I agree and also disagree with Melissa. We are spoiled as far as cell phone technology goes. I wouldn't go out and buy something that's not tested and true--like the iphone when it first came out nor the new 3g version either. Just too many bugs, drop calls, lost e-mail and security issues just to name a few. I had AT&T and I had drop calls. My girlfriend has a Samsung Sync flip phone with AT&T and she's complaining about drop calls (we're in America's Finest City--San Diego, Ca.)at least once a day. I had a older Samsung flip phone with Verizon 2 years ago and only had 2-3 drop calls in 1 1/2 years. I've since upgraded to a Blackberry Pearl 8130 in April 08 and then to a Blackberry Curve 8330 in June 08. And had no drop calls--I mean "0"-- with either of these devices. The Curve has been out on other networks for a couple of years before it was launched on Verizon. And I think by now almost all of the bugs--if there were any--are ironed out. And it has proven to be a really reliable workhorse and companion. I just love it! A phone is a phone. A good smartphone you should at least be able to make a call and carry a conversation without having the call drop on you. I think this should be the primary and most important function of any phone--smart or not. And if you have that then you can enjoy the secondary functions email, sms, mms, mp3s, games etc.
I would love to have a Blackberry Bold when all the bugs are ironed out and when it comes to Verizon because AT&T has bad coverage--believe it or not--compare to Verizon.
Right now, I'm really happy with my Blackberry Curve and I'm not looking at anything else.
BTW, this is my very first crackberry post! Luv U all!

I don't know what happens to my Curve 8310 with AT&T. I have had NO LESS than 20 replacement handsets since my introduction to my beautiful RED BB.

No matter if I'm here in the "country" or in the city, my signal indicator turns red and says SOS. Soft reset won't cut it. Once it begins to have this problem, it continues to worsen to the point all I'm doing all day long is pulling my battery out and putting it back in.

They have done at least 3 Engineer Studies, and nothing. Well, I say nothing. They claim everything is working fine on AT&T's end and it has to do with every other carrier in the free world as to why I can't sent pic messages.

Then I was told I was in a "fringe" market. You know, where you are half way between 2 towers and it just happens to be in 2 states. I live just outside of Memphis, TN, in N. Mississippi with a tower in the same proximity in each state.

I wish I could go with the Bold when it comes out, but, I feel like if I'm already having this much trouble now with the trusty Curve, my dealings with the Bold would be on the level of Nightmare on Elm Street!!

Y'all let me know how it all works out. I'm just gonna sit back and see how ya'll do with it first!

I'm in Manhattan and I've had a very different experience with the Bold and AT&T's network. I have owned the Bold for several weeks, I went from whatever version firmware came with the Rogers Bold to .126 and now .147 and I RARELY have issues with the Bold and AT&T's 3G network in the city, if anything the phone switches to EDGE and I get full reception. It's worth noting that I also have an N95-3 and an iPhone 3G, and the only phone that had noticeable issues with 3G reception, before the firmware update, was the iPhone. The phone with the best 3G reception is hands down the N95-3, the thing works anywhere.

I am running a unbranded unlocked bold on at&t in Miami, my bold reboots without any warning.
The funny thing is i had my t-mobile chip in it and it didnt reboot once (no 3g or web browser though).

This is a glitch in the matrix!!!

I have to agree with the post made by Beau79. I'm a New Yorker and have had horrible service with AT&T throughout New York and my office across the river in Jersey City. I believe it has to do with the GSM technology as I have the same issues with my TMobile even though I have no complaints about TMobile. However, my work issued Verizon BB works just fine no matter where I go, even in my office where I have no reception with the previous two. Yes, I hate Verizon but I have to say there signal is much better with their CDMA tech.

Did you really give your Bold away?

Is that really you ?

Kinda funny you mention that because for the last 3 weeks I've been activating AT&T phones for customers at Best Buy in California and we've been having the same problem for all AT&T phones at least 3 days out of the week.

http://www.sprint.com/companyinfo/history/
As seen in this link, Sprint was the first for most things wireless.

2002
Nationwide First
Sprint – Becomes the first wireless carrier to complete a nationwide Third Generation (3G) 1X network upgrade.

Verizon has had it for a long time, as well. These companies should have got the iphone and the Bold first -- if they ever GET the iphone.

But either way, just like the Curve, when they finally do get the Bold, it's probably gonna rock like the Curve does now for both respective companties.

WCM

I've been a loyal AT&T customer for 10 years( including Cingular). It's apparent to me that AT&T is not only NOT ready for the Bold, they're simply NOT redy for 3G. The network just doesn't work with any phone.
My daughters IPHONE has had "3G" issues since release

I live in NY and have an unlocked Bold for the last 2 weeks,
the first few days I experienced these same problems. Then I upgraded to .147 and all has been fine. I did not upgrade to .150 because everything is fine right now. Hopefully it stays that way.