Let's hope that Tmobile's release dates are similar to Sprint's.

Did these dates come directly from Sprint?

Or did someone just make them up using 'word' and send them to you.
We want more 'fact' and less rumours. If rumours are just that, then it makes RIM look like they are the ones who are dropping the ball.

exciting - getting closer

All hints seem to be pointing toward the second half of August. Which is just about perfect for a few reasons for me :)

who u telling, i am so ready to get my hands on this 9850. The sooner i can get this the sooner i can put back money for buying to QNX phone next year...

I hope these are true. Less than a month until my Tour get retired for a 9930.

I hope these are some solid dates. I'm anxiously awaiting (as all of us seem to be) the release of the new Blackberry line.

So im guessing they'll announce it at the beginning of august?

wasn't expecting the 9850 that soon. good news

I sure hope that we feel some Verizon love at about the same time!

I agree in regard to the 9850. I was not expecting it to come out this soon or at the same time as the 9930.

These release dates are all well and nice and I'm excited about the new upcoming Blackberrys especially the Bold Touch and Torch 2, but if these are released during the same period that the rumored new iPhone 5/4S is released, Blackberry is going to have a tough time, maybe not on the corporate front but certainly on the consumer front. We'll see.

looking forward to seeing more of the torch! :D

Have I missed AT&T's release date somewhere? I'm starting to feel like a stalker in the blogs and fourms. I'm beginning to look over my shoulder waiting for the police to come and get me.

Thank you for relaying that info, Blaize. It gives me a great deal of hope now that we appear to have fixed dates for these new devices. Better still, they will be released a week before the school year!!! If RIM manages to get these devices out, it will be a great quarter for them. Finally having the best line-up of BlackBerry devices every all coming out at the same time! This will certainly have investors scratching their heads.

Certainly RIM has opened the door for too many competitors to find a niche. Moto was facing bankruptcy as many speculated, and Samsung and HTC had some aimless devices until Android came along.

When these new devices come available, RIM will take some of that market back in advance of the iPhone 5. Still, we cannot expect RIM to get all its market share back as Apple and Android will keep pushing hard. Also, some techies will prefer to see what the QNX superphones will look like so they won't be jumping for these OS 7 devices.

I won't buy a new phone if I already have a contract. Most folks will wait till their current contract runs out, so it is vital that RIM continues to push new devices to market that capture people's imagination. It's a big undertaking, but I'm sure they can manage it. You need the right devices in the stores at the right time.

Forgot to speak about those exclusive contracts. They have really hurt manufacturers like RIM. They almost hurt the iPhone, but Apple had pushed so much marketing behind it, and folks had to agree that it set a new benchmark for an easy to use handheld device. Even though people hated AT&T, they stuck with them because of the iPhone. This marked a turning point in the industry where the manufacturer was getting the upper hand, rather than being at the mercy of the carriers.

RIM pushed the Torch into AT&T, iPhone territory. The Torch didn't do as well as the iPhone, but it didn't do too badly either. Nevertheless, the carriers block OS updates from the manufacturers and make it difficult for them to add new features and services.

While RIM was pushing the Torch via AT&T, Verizon had no BlackBerrys or iPhones to push, so they got even more behind Android -- so did Sprint and the other carriers. This was a huge mistake, and RIM knows it. They got burned.

Look at the Android manufacturers. They have several new devices every couple of months going to one carrier, then tweaking it with a new faceplate and issuing to another carrier. Just how many Galaxy S devices has Samsung released in the past year?

Fast forward to today. We now see BlackBerrys being pushed to all carriers. Different carriers will/may get slightly different devices (CDMA vs GSM), some will get the Torch 2 and some will get the Curve, but RIM is giving everyone some love. If folks prefer one carrier over another, they will still get a shiny new OS 7 BlackBerry to lust for. Everyone wins!

Now, if RIM can only get carriers to allow them (RIM) to provide OS updates directly to the device! That would ensure we always get the latest and greatest OS on our devices, and we will certainly remember RIM's love when it comes time for a new phone.

Im getting a little callous when it comes to "Official" release dates, even more so with these little hints. I remember reading through some directives given to a large chain of fast food stores, one said they had y to come out with something new every 6-8 weeks, or the public starts looking the other way. Thats why you see some burger joint ad says "wow! bacon and cheese on a hamburger? Thats new!" It isnt new, but they have to say that or anything else they can think of just to get in your face every 6-8 weeks. OMG! A DOUBLE chicken sandwich!
Anyway thats what these release dates remind me of. Every few weeks some new "insight" into what we might be looking for. Just noise. 08/12/2011 will come and go, nothing new. Oh well, at least they're trying. Not.

These new berries can't come soon enough.

I really hope to see Verizon and AT&T promote these also, regardless of what some people say these are a major upgrade in terms of speed and function and should sell well.

You have no reason to believe me, but I heard from someone who knows at RIM that AT LEAST one of the new models has passed certification from AT LEAST one major US carrier, so these release dates are legit. And the Torch and the Bold are almost identical for certification purposes, just different form factors so no surprise that they will be released at the same time.

Waiting for curve 4! craving for it! lol!

I love that Bla1ze separates his personas on crackberry and androidcentral. Bla1ze vs Chris Parsons.

Anyone have any idea on price for bold 9930? And if it will come out unlocked?

I might end up missing out on these devices, I'm getting my HTC Sensation on the 5th of August..I'm still a true CrackBerry Addict at heart no doubt about that but I was hoping for late July..Huuu! Sicks..

August 21 is a Sunday...I'm curious, do they release new phones on Sundays?

I hope the bold release date is correct, my contract ran up last week and I'm hankerin' for a new phone already! Pllleeze release this phone soon!

y is blackberry taking so long to release a new phone

I wonder if these new devices will be worth buying, considering OS7 wont be too much of a difference from OS6, and RIM bought all these companies and will be implementing QNX out in just a few months and probably add front Face cams and a even better design, I'd be pissed if I locked into a 2 year on a 9930 and then 6 mos later QNX is here and its badass!

I am starting to feel that I have waited so long for the 9930 that I could easily see myself waiting longer for a QNX phone.

damn im still praying for a torch 2 (slider) on sprint
looks like thats not comming soon...if at all lol

I called a Sprint rep and said that Sprint will be releasing the Bold 9930 AND Torch 9850 on the same day (August 21st which is a Sunday) and ask if that is normal for Sprint to release not one but two devices on a Sunday? and she said "Sprint will release a device whatever day they seem to want...even a Sunday") So I guess some folks will miss Church on the 21st of August to be 1st in line to get the Bold 9930 (IMO, the Torch 9850 will be the worst selling BlackBerry device this year)

I am so ready to for the Bold 9930. Love my Tour but after 2 years I am ready to step up to the awesomeness of the 9930. Someone please tell me Verizon is definately on for this August 21 release. I don't want to experience them lagging behind again.