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Posted by FreshThePoet Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

I HATE touchscreens, why would I want to waste time sliding my fingers on a screen when I can easily save time with a regular qwerty keyboard?

Keep the regular phones coming.

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Depends on your priorities. If your smartphone is mainly used as a communication tool and you're using the keyboard (sending messages) for 30% + of the time the device is in your hands, then for sure... the keyboard trumps and sacrificing display size makes sense. 

But for people where they are using the device more for consumption, be it reading / web browsing / playing games / etc. (using the keyboard less than 10% of the time the device is in the hands) the benefits of the larger display arguably outweigh the smudges on the glass. 

Clearly it comes down to choice and what suits your needs best (ie. Kevin's Hierarchy of Smartphone Needs) but to ignore or deny the presence, popularity and growth in touchscreen-only devices seems to be contrary to what's happening out there.

I actually picked up an iPad this weekend in Miami to see how it is and if and how I would actually integrate a device like that into my life.  It's only been a few days, but am seeing the "market" for it... it really is a nice around the house device. Sitting on the couch, lying in bed, reading while eating breakfast. It's not someting I'd want to lug around with me (exception - good for plane rides) and it's not exactly a productivity tool, but it adds value in a household.  It might not be a gadget that every single person buys (like a cell phone/smartphone) to carry around with them at all times, but I could see it as becoming something like a Nintendo Wii, where every household ends up with one to begin with (instead of a coffee table book, it's the coffee table tablet). I don't find the iPad to be in competition with my BlackBerry though... I haven't used my BlackBery any less since getting an iPad.  Rather, the iPad has been in competition with my Macbook Air / Macbook Pro which tends to go with me from room to room when I'm at home. iPad/tablets still have a way to go, but I'd there's certainly going to be a market for them. 

Anyways... will stop here. Talk on it at WES next week :)

 
 
Posted by intprd04 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Hope you paid duty and taxes when you crossed back into the greatest nation on earth ;)

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Saturday, Apr 17, 2010 666 days ago

I sure did! The customs agent was actually curious to see one so I yanked it out of my suitcase to show it to her.

 
 
Posted by jorGeorge Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

FYI not everyone needs a keyboard to type out massively long emails for work. Some people are just casual texters and want the phone for browsing the web and scrolling through a fluid OS. This is where other platforms succeed and RIM does not.

 
 
Posted by drowens Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

I'm a student & work with a web design company. I have the 9530 and I like the typing on it a lot. I've typed several 250-500+ word essays on it on short notice, respond to most emails I get on it, and definitely use it for typing more than 30% of the time and haven't had a problem. So I think it's more of a preference.

 
 
Posted by garment69 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

I get 100-150 emails a day. If I have to type out anything longer than three sentences, Im using my laptop.

 
 
Posted by EGerhardt Saturday, Apr 17, 2010 666 days ago

I did all the serious writing for both my undergrad and masters dissertations on my Bold. Mostly with my feet kicked up on a sofa.

I find it so easy to work like that; whenever I have an idea or something catches me that I want to add to my work, I open up the document, and write until I run cold. Best thing being that no matter when I think of something, I can be writing a thousand words about it off the top of my head without needing to mess with power cables or move to computer. On the train? Open up my quantitative analysis spread sheet and start analysing figures. Can do it for ten minutes, or an hour.

It is by far the least intensive way to put together even very extensive (10,000+ word) documents. I've worked plenty on various laptops and PCs over the years, but my phone kicks the crap out of both for comfort and productivity. No more hunching over keyboards, no more squinting at monitors.

Best thing is you never have an excuse to not be working. My blackberry never leaves my side and so I have all my essays and research with me.

I know plenty of people who claim to be awesome on touch screen keyboard, and I'm sure that there are some user who can top my berry WPM, but its not that impressive if all you do is twitter posts. Physical keyboards are for the long haul.

 
 
Posted by Timothinho Saturday, Apr 17, 2010 666 days ago

axed

 
 
Posted by Auctioneero Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

I was just in the apple store with my buddy and we were searching for new cars on an ipad. To search for what we were looking for on the all touch screen it literally took us five times longer than had we just been using a keyboard. I think touchscreens are somewhat of a fad. As popular and fun as they look, i'll stick with my keys...and 9700.

 
 
Posted by QuiversKeep Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

I think because it took YOU guys that long, it's easy to think that. I'm betting I could compete against a non-touchscreen BB user and could either win or tie..it's all about getting the hang of it. I think there's more of a learning curve on the touchscreens, but once you get it, believe me, you can go very fast.

I tried out an iPad the other day at Best Buy and it was time consuming for me to type on the touchscreen, but I know from experience that all it would be is a matter of time for me to get fast to very fast on that thing.

 
 
Posted by MarcSMASH Saturday, Apr 17, 2010 666 days ago

Agreed. It took me a while to get the hang of the virtual keyboard on my 9530. But my buddy tried it (he's a 9700 user) and he hated it. Said its too slow. But I smoke him in messaging. Its all about preference and what you choose to get used to.

 
 
Posted by jabbs1 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

i wouldnt want a full touchscreen. i need that keyboard. it's much more convenient. i hope physical keyboarded phones stick around for a while.

 
 
Posted by chaz0717 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

I don't know if its arrogance or just good old fashion head in the sand. Typical RIM. Do you not have marketing people? Does no one in Waterloo pay attention to consumer sales data? Mike, you are either completely unqualified to run RIM, or you are the best IRL troll evar.

 
 
Posted by stuaw11 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

@Fresh and @Auction

It doesnt matter what YOU prefer! RIM is a business and they have a duty to their stockholders to produce numbers. They clearly have produced 2 touchscreens now, and not acknowledging the power of the consumer market is a stupid move.

 
 
Posted by jorGeorge Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Ignorance at its best...

 
 
Posted by Riders On The Storm Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

After that statement, RIM stock isn't going to be that popular either...

 
 
Posted by Berrydale Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Quote: "Worst cae, we'll carry on this conversation in a live Crackberry Podcast next week where plenty of booze is involved. That will be fun."

Sounds fun and interesting Bla1ze, can't wait to hear this one. Consider me signed up.

 
 
Posted by dysfunction5100 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Is this guy on Meds or something? The iPhone is possibly the most popular gadget in history, and touchscreen phones aren't that popular?

I agree that in the business world (the real core of RIM's business)this could be true, but for the regular, everyday consumer? Touchscreens are the way to go.

I love my Blackberry, but Mike L. is an idiot and continues to prove himself as such.

 
 
Posted by EGerhardt Saturday, Apr 17, 2010 666 days ago

RIM still tops the devices used list, and I'd be willing to guess that there is a similar number of blackberries (of all modern forms) to all generations of iPhone.

Many people I know with a 3GS owned a 3G before that, and I honestly don't know anyone who didn't upgrade. So, you need to take their sales figures with a punch of salt. If you only care about devices sold, then Nokia phones (of all flavours) are the most popular gadget of all time.

Apple has an immensely powerful PR team, and has spent a lot of money positioning their products as magical life enhancers to people who don't know jack about technology. Anyone remember the apple campaign about Macs being for 'the fun stuff' ? They neglected to mention you can't play any modern games on them because they weren't trying to sell to informed consumers, they are trying to sell a top end macbook or imac to someone who basically only needs netbook functionality (ie for 'the fun stuff' of web surfing, itunes and a word processor).

And its the same throughout the whole product line. A huge number of people who otherwise would have bought a dumbphone buy iPhones because they are hip, and just use twitter, facebook and dumbphone funtions, becuase that's really what the mythical 'consumer market' is. Uninformed consumers who follow trends and are willing to pay untold amounts to be part of whats cool. Thats why everyone and their granny wants a touch screen phone, not because they are any good, but because there is currently a trend for them.

I don't want to see blackberries be hip, ever. To the lovers, the reasons why you own one (or more) are obvious and don't need restating. To the rest, they'll never get it.

 
 
Posted by Naeniver Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

"touch-only phones like the STORM aren't that popular"

 
 
Posted by JRSCCivic98 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

WOW, I think I finally found out that Mike L. has secretly joined CB and registered under the name of synthmole. They are both just about as clueless when it comes to what the public wants and where the RIM technology should go. What amazes me is that people continue to put this company in the black. Sooner or later one of two things will happen... RIM will drop or they will change their ways... I'm looking forward to the day that happens.

 
 
Posted by synthmole Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

LOL. He has a point and remember that he is talking about the global market.

 
 
Posted by Wheelman74 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

He seems like such a jackass its almost a suprise they've continued to be in business. But if this is his mindset our beloved blackberries are in serious danger. We need a replacement for him who doesn't live under a rock. Where do I apply?

 
 
Posted by marcelo11 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Touch screens are the phones of the future and RIM really needs to step it up with the touch screens and that awful "would be great in 04" O.S. they have!

 
 
Posted by MrWireless31 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

And you wonder why RIM continues to fall further and further behind in the smartphone marketplace...when the CEO is completely out of touch with what the public wants, their stocks will continue to plummet and deservedly so. As long as I've been a BlackBerry owner (5+ years and 7+ devices), that HTC Incredible is looking more and more incredible (so is Android as a whole).

 
 
Posted by Valace2 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Imagine the Iphone with a full side QWERTY. I agree with Mike that all touch devices will eventually begin to play second fiddle to side sliders. Its unfortunate that RIM had to be their usual arrogant selves and stick the traditional Berry QWERTY in a Pre style slider. That style of slider is just Fugly and unbalanced.

 
 
Posted by ArgonNJ Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Sliders are not that popular. Mike is wrong on this, just like he is wrong with just about everything.

 
 
Posted by Skeevecr Saturday, Apr 17, 2010 666 days ago

He isn't saying sliders are the only form factor either, giving people the choice is their intention whether its touchscreen-only, slider or any of the various qwerty options rim also have for people.

 
 
Posted by robgom Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Many a blackberry user, myself included, head on over to the EVO 4g in June. I've been a loyal BB user for several years now and it's just time. I see innovation in so many other phones, yet RIM continues to rehash the same platform in "slightly" different packaging. It's. Just. Time.

 
 
Posted by MrWireless31 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

although I won't go to Sprint and get that EVO phone, I agree with everything else you said. I'm sticking with Verizon and might be grabbing that Incredible.

 
 
Posted by longhairbilly Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

I also won't be leaving Verizon, but your point is one I share. I love my Blackberry. I love my BBM. But RIM is falling behind fast. Look at the new Incredible. Pretty impressive. What's RIM answer? A Tour they now call a Bold with a trackpad?

I'll hang around a little longer RIM, I don't want to leave. But your making it very hard.

 
 
Posted by yeahman Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Resign Mike Lazaridis!

 
 
Posted by KMB4 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

But I'm sorry. I'm able to do everything faster on my Storm 2 than when I had my curve 8310. In every way, it is far superior. And, my preference of course, trying out my friend's 9700 just wasn't the same. The Storm 2 is and excellent device and RIM's best phone yet.

Hearing this from the CEO of the company that makes the phone I'm loving so much is disheartening at best. I guess I can't expect much more support from RIM or an enhanced experience (better camera, longer lasting battery, opening up of apps potential). It is truly a shame. People, you just don't know what you're missing here.

Maybe the market share will wake him up and more Storms will be on the horizon. I don't know. I hope so or RIM may be the odd one out of the "musical chairs" that is the smartphone market.

 
 
Posted by Desconocido Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

The Storm2 is the best BB. I can type very quickly and accurately on it. I can't understand why people would buy any other BB. And, it was just flat out discouraging to read Lazaridis' remarks. He is way out of touch. If he speaks for the entire company we are in big trouble!

 
 
Posted by dysfunction5100 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Blackberries will be dropping like flies.

 
 
Posted by joe18 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

I agree. Verizon has a lot of bb users. A lot of rhem are my friends and they are all saying that they're going to dump their bb once iphone comes out on verizon.

 
 
Posted by jorGeorge Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

I completely agree. The day the iPhone is announced on Verizon will be doomsday for RIM.

 
 
Posted by girlontherun Saturday, Apr 17, 2010 666 days ago

Oh God. Not this stupid argument again from Verizon users. Have you noticed Verizon is always the last to get such things? ... Blackberry's and now possibly the iPhone (which in reality should go to Sprint's 4G, instead of Verizon's infants). I wonder why? (They suck) They're entirely two different phones with two entirely different uses and are user specific. Stop whining on crackberry and get a different phone and then whine on that phones website of how you wish you still had your blackberry. Iphone users and verizon infants are one in the same I guess. Snore.

 
 
Posted by relopez_usmc Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

I personally prefer the on screen keyboard because I find it easier to type on. it's a matter of personal preference. I am far more efficient on my S2 in landscape mode then i would be in, say, a curve.

 
 
Posted by KMB4 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

It's just unbelievable that he would say this. When I'm out and about and whipping out the S2 to answer a call or text, people are usually awed at the S2. "Wow, what is that? That's that BlackBerry Storm 2 huh? Man, you can type fast on that thing" It's not me, its the S2. The feedback from SurePress is perfect. Once they see that I can do all the things their phone can do, they always walk away impressed. I'm talking about people with iPhones and Pres and Android OS's as well as others. I'm always getting great responses to the S2.

The thing that stops some people from getting it is Verizon. A lot of them are on Sprint or T-Mobile and Verizon is too expensive for their budget they say. iPhone users are all waiting on the new 4.0 OS.

Overall though, it comes down to personal preference. I just thought that the co-CEO of RIM would have more foresight in what is clearly, from my point of view at least, a GROWING trend, not a fad.

 
 
Posted by vx1 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Oh boy mike your off your rocker bb kicks but touch screens are really popular not only that tablets are going to start to take off
Real soon netbooks are dead and not only that tablets have been in
Movies for years people luv what stars use...

I can understand the idea of defending your brand but with so much
Blatant popularity its not a good idea going against the grain
You end up looking dated.

 
 
Posted by ReccaKun Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

"Lazaridis claims there is no market for tablets and that as smartphones are getting more powerful and more computer like, this by
extension would reduce the need for a tablet"

RIM smartphones aren't getting any more powerful. I say its getting left behind in the dust in terms of specs.

 
 
Posted by DoctorNeutron Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

For me, my S2 Touch Screen is a love-hate relationship. I love the size of the screen. I enjoy working on Custom Homescreens. I love how Lock Tilt works on my S2 and its screen. I hate it when my S2 gets busy and will not honor my latest request in less that a pico-second. I had high hopes for better Voice entry, but Vlingo and Google Maps 4.0.1 leave a lot to be desired. I long for the future where I can just do thought entry like the Krell.

 
 
Posted by rizzzzoooo Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

What an idiot...Tell me RIM is stubborn to change its way, that touch screens are not your cup of coffee, or even that maybe RIM can't produce a quality touch screen device to compete with what is out on the market at the present moment, BUT don't tell me that they are not popular at this point in time. That just sounds plain old ignorant, something that should not be expected from a CEO of a fortune 500 company.

 
 
Posted by ArgonNJ Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

More proof that RIM is clueless when it comes to the state of the industry. Anyone who thinks that OS6 will be some great coming, should think differently. RIM is so far out of it, that it will soon lose the consumer market all together.

 
 
Posted by JayMie424 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

I love my Blackberry, but I really loved the style of my LG Voyager.. A touchscreen on the front, opened up (folded open) for a qwerty keyboard and a second screen. Best of both worlds... The fact that it read my text messages to me was just an awesome side bonus!

 
 
Posted by BBNewbie2010 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

I'm not thrilled with a touch screen. I prefer a keyboard, that's me. I know that people have their own preference and their reasons why. Maybe that is why there BB's that are out there for consumers that what they are looking for on their paticular needs in a BB be it touch or not.

 
 
Posted by j0shuWa2491 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

I love my storm2. Its by far the best phone I've ever had. I couldn't go back to a blackberry with keys, the surepress technology on this is amazing. But RIM needs to step it up...I find my phone far more superior to my friends droids, but when I look over at them, I find myself envious over the resolution and speed. Not to much the vast amount of apps in the android market.

 
 
Posted by francolasalsa Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

I've had blackberries for 4 years and 4 diffrent Blackberries, I'm now a happy iPhone owner and I have no intention of going back to blackberry anytime soon, your software sucks ! Your app store sucks ! Your media capabalities suck ! Awesome push email doesn't cut it anymore ! The web is going mobile and all your doing is going the way of PALM !