A short snippet of the leaked BlackBerry 10 demo video showed a very interesting evolution of video chat. Though we've been able to video chat over the PlayBook for awhile now, this demo shows two people chatting over BBM, then one of the users switching over to a document, which is then shared live to the other participant. While skimming through the document, a thumbnail of the ongoing video chat conveniently slips in at the top of the screen. Smart, no?
Considering the video (which has been taken down from Vimeo with extreme prejudice likely by RIM's legal department) also showed the Safari browser when glimpsing through some of the PlayBook's browsing capabilities, I wouldn't be surprised if this feature just turns out to be the wishful thinking of a few marketing and design guys, but hey, maybe it will be one of those gems RIM is holding back after showing off a bunch of BB10 features at BlackBerry Jam Americas.
What are the odds that this feature will pan out? What kind of video chat, document, or BBM features would you like to see in BlackBerry 10?
BBPandy Sep 27, 2012 at 6:54 pm
To me this was the most interesting part of the entire Video
phylez Sep 27, 2012 at 11:48 pm
It was for me as well. But as quickly as that excitement came, it left. Has everyone forgotten how amazing the PB looked in those first commercials? Well I purchased one at launch and let me tell you, those commercials were bald faced lies about performance, functionality, and apps. My PB OS1 (dead pixels and all) was effectively a $700 paperweight. I hope that they don't try to sucker people again.
sk8er_tor Sep 27, 2012 at 11:54 pm
Are you kidding me? The PlayBook now is better than ever before! More apps, email, and super reliable. Sure, there were a couple of pics that showed Skype but that was never in any commercial and besides, you had 30 days to return it so it's really your fault if you have buyers remorse.
moh950 Sep 27, 2012 at 6:57 pm
It is amazing, I hope it will be there by launch !!!
DrBit2011 Sep 27, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Wow!!
Live Long and Prosper!
DuexNoir Sep 27, 2012 at 7:11 pm
That is the best feature I saw in the video. I can see many people will want this feature (including myself). Right now, I don't think any other smartphone out there has the capability to do this. Correct me if I'm wrong.
~I am BlackBerry by choice~
kozmo68 Sep 27, 2012 at 7:25 pm
With the GS3 you can text while your watching aa video. But not sure if it has the same functionality as this.. I'm guess not because this would be baked directly into BBM.. I'd be willing to bet you can't do it with imessage or facetime..
DuexNoir Sep 27, 2012 at 11:15 pm
That's not the same from what I can tell. This shows them doing a video chat AND screen sharing (something that leaked a while back, now that I remember). Good for collaborative work and much more!! Imagine gaming integrating this feature.
I don't think Facetime and iMessage can do this.
~I am BlackBerry by choice~
morpho4444 Sep 27, 2012 at 7:22 pm
"The reckoning is coming... And the king will rise"
Judgement day for all of the closed ecosystems,
for all the limitations and restrictions set by manipulation.
No more iSolation, no more home button and poor multitasking.
No more telling me which technology I should drop and which I should embrace,
More choice and freedom to our people as choice and freedom are the only two things that make us human!
Blackberry by choice
kozmo68 Sep 27, 2012 at 7:26 pm
+100000
TRlPPlN Sep 27, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Hallelujah!! amen to that!! ahahahahah
DrBit2011 Sep 27, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Thorsten book 21.01.13 When the King return to reclaim his kingdom
Live Long and Prosper!
G-bone Sep 28, 2012 at 1:13 am
"All Along The Watchtower"
"There must be some way out of here" said the joker to the thief
"There's too much confusion", I can't get no relief
Businessmen, they drink my wine, plowmen dig my earth
None of them along the line know what any of it is worth.
"No reason to get excited", the thief he kindly spoke
"There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke
But you and I, we've been through that, and this is not our fate
So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late".
All along the watchtower, princes kept the view
While all the women came and went, barefoot servants, too.
Outside in the distance a wildcat did growl
Two riders were approaching, the wind began to howl.
Two Riders = two BB X phones
Wildcat = Mighty Thor
pblakeney Sep 28, 2012 at 8:27 am
And the wind cries BB10....
BB_Bmore Sep 27, 2012 at 7:35 pm
That was beautiful..and true!!! RIM -BlackBerry10 2013 FTW!!!!
GTiLeo Sep 27, 2012 at 7:35 pm
These are great features. Good for business folk and for students. Makes group presentations easy and allows business meetings easy. I love RIMs innovations in BB10
parabola Sep 27, 2012 at 7:54 pm
I really, really wish there are some neat features they are holding back until closer to launch ... but I had the same hope about the PlayBook and the apps to be available at launch (or shortly thereafter), so I'm not holding my breath. Would love to be pleasantly surprised, though.
rkevwill Sep 27, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Releasing the N with a straight keyboard, instead of the 9900 type keyboard,, would be a MAJOR mistake. And without the trackpad, would probably lose me as a customer. If I have to continue touching the screen to get things done, I would just as soon keep my iPhone. I loved my trackpad!
brendanberlingeri Sep 27, 2012 at 9:23 pm
I don't think the trackpad is going to work with this new software. BB10 is all about the flow and ease of navigation. Better get the 9900 while it last.
Bold_until_Hybrid_Comes Sep 27, 2012 at 8:47 pm
That bb10 qwerty is a fake leak. There's no way they would have michelle postin something like that. It would be kevin,blaze or adam.
lotuslanderz Sep 27, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Seriously?
Michelle did a great job posting this!
Bla1ze and Adam were traveling on a plane somewhere and Kevin was doing the live blog earnings call (and was blindsided by this).
jimmylegs73 Sep 27, 2012 at 8:48 pm
This would be pretty slick but I'd like to see a native SIP client that can use BFCP for content sharing. Basically business video conferencing capabilities. Video chat is great but multiparty and content sharing take things to the next level.
Jimcmf Sep 27, 2012 at 9:31 pm
I want a keyboard AND a big screen ...... PLEASE !
Andrew4life Sep 27, 2012 at 9:41 pm
And one with the WiFis and more GBs!
FunktasticLucky Sep 28, 2012 at 2:23 pm
you sir have made my morning haha. I was joking like that all last month with my brother about his galaxy nexus. haha. So I had a pretty good laugh at this one. THank you.
rajdeep.malhi Sep 27, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Now that i see it!! It must have it now!!!
p.s .... i reuploaded the video here for those who missed it
http://youtu.be/yzcOGNQ-qkQ
chaosdivine Sep 27, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Use the free DownloadHelper plugin for Firefox to get your very own copy before it disappears.
AfroZepher Sep 27, 2012 at 10:50 pm
So yea. . .stuff like picture in picture and seamless document shearing wouldn't necessarily count as game changers. . .but it could sure make BB 10 mighty competitive. . .
mnhockeycoach99 Sep 27, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Maybe not a huge feature in the consumer world, but I can see enterprise customers jumping all over this....
mnhockeycoach99 Sep 27, 2012 at 10:55 pm
This video chat with shared screen functionality looks absolutely sick!! I hope this will come to BB10 handsets and the PlayBook. I can see businesses jumping all over 4G LTE handsets and PBs with this functionality.. can you image all of the uses?
wcars0hq Sep 27, 2012 at 10:57 pm
I believe the laptop shown @2:56 min is a BB10 laptop with active bezels. I love the document sharing with picture in picture like video chat @ 1:56 minutes. I think this is the pitch video RIM is showing to carriers. Just my thoughts here.
mavricxx Sep 27, 2012 at 11:27 pm
That's an awesome idea! RIM needs to patent this ASAP along with peek and any new things they're inventing that no other OS does. Maybe they can even squeeze some money out of the other OS's if they wan to use the idea as well.
masqueofhastur Sep 27, 2012 at 11:47 pm
That was probably what I was most impressed with from the video. It really shows that the QNX base for BB10 really pays off.
CopperTec Sep 28, 2012 at 12:46 am
video seems like an internal marketing pitch, something to demonstrate to the carriers. my question is this: as much as i LOVE the video/bbm feature with REAL multitasking, how much of a reality is this? i have never video chatted with someone on my PB, but can you have 2 different programs working at the same time? if so, why isnt this already here on the much larger pb? if they cant do it on the PB then how can they do it on a smaller device? I love the direction rim is going, i just hate how they have started dropping their pants on their secrets when that is the biggest edge one has on the battlefield.
endrant
masqueofhastur Sep 28, 2012 at 5:57 am
Picture in picture is something more complex than what the PB has. The PB is certainly physically capable of doing it, but the software implementation would take some work. And their first priority was getting a native messaging client in (and after that BBM support) as that's what people expect from a BB.
raoul_duke Sep 28, 2012 at 8:01 am
I don't think this is even possible. Like Simon mentioned, Safari running on the Playbook should be a hint, that this is just some photoshopping...
From what i saw from bb10, it's just a polished playbook OS. you have your icons, the active-frames are basicially the minimized windows from playbookOS. Some new featurs are some tweaked gestures and the hub. So I dont think an app running in another app, or overlapping what ever, is possible with QNX.
It seems to me, that every app is running in its own window (for security reasons or whatever), so this picture-in-picture video chatting might not be possible.
But dont get me wrong, I am sooo hoping they found a way to do this, I would love to have this in the final version
belleg Sep 28, 2012 at 10:40 am
want to bet that this (PIP) is possible on BB10? ;)
altrax Sep 29, 2012 at 12:39 pm
the Invocation framework on Cascades Beta 3 does exactly what you are talking about... that is why when you are in your contacts app and click onto a contacts BBID or PIN it **Opens BBM within the contact App** (Swipe up to check out the Active Frames if you don't believe me the frame is even still called "Contacts".) From there you can swipe back to the contacts app
This is what Thor was talking about with the "Always In" it is possible to call and flow into different Apps within the same App sandbox. With that base functionality baked in I really don't see it being that hard for RIM Invoke Docs2Go from BBM Video and leave a little video Box playing... A further example would be the Native Camera App. The thumbnail in the bottom left corner is far more than a static thumbnail it can be stretched up to preview the photo without switching to a "photo viewing App"
Ideally I would like a mash up of the two enable Doc sharing in the background of BBM Video and allow the user to "Drag the video chat" up to view the Docs in the background, or pull it back down to return to full video.
Acumenight Sep 28, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Seriously!? Nobody noticed in the last five seconds of the video showing the L and N phone, a playbook and a LAPTOP????????
BB By Choice!