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Posted by Bodero Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

"which now has WiFi, optical trackpad and more"

What's "more"? An upside-down green answer key? Because I think that aside from those three changes, it's absolutely identical.

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

should have OpenGL support, which the Storm2 and Curve 8530 do, but not the Tour 9630 does not. So there! That equals MORE. lol.  :)

 
 
Posted by berrygoodthemes Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

That's what RIM does have you not realised by now!
8520 - 8530 same but 3G
The 9630 is just a 8900 with the 9000 keypad
The 9100 is same as 8100 but with os 5.0

Don't get the number logic tho - 3 bold lines all on diff numbers! Going down the curve route with 3 different curve versions I guess.

 
 
Posted by davidinLA Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

The new phone will be new, bold and shiny. That alone will be enough for people to buy it.

 
 
Posted by freddymartinez9 Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

So where is the guide? Can we read it?

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

hang on a few mins.... will post a link for it.

 
 
Posted by freddymartinez9 Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

Kevin, I though you intentionally left it off so we could comment on the post. (Per your last podcast)

 
 
Posted by pokerpro Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

Well it's finally confirmed the tour 9650 is the bold 9650

 
 
Posted by Diggs31 Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

If its a Bold now the numbering should change to reflect that. Since its CDMA and wifi it should be 9750.

 
 
Posted by jwilcox09 Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

i think its pretty lame of RIM to try to pass this off as a Bold when clearly a large portion of the BB community already know what the deal is....I am really tired of cell phone companies pushing out new devices with minor improvements that should have been included in the first place in such short succession...so i guess having a tour in now like having a flip...a dying breed...

 
 
Posted by mlm5em Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

Agreed. I know that at the time we "knew what we were getting" but it still feels like a slap in the face when they try to pass this off as a "Bold" so we won't feel ripped off. Call this what it is ... a Tour 2.

 
 
Posted by BodomJ Saturday, Mar 13, 2010 803 days ago

Most of the bb community doesn't know it is a tour or a bold or anything. We are a bunch of bb dorks on a message board...we do not represent the majority of bb users. In the end, the average consumer doesn't care and they shouldnt. Why should you?

How exactly did tour users get ripped? We all knew the specs before it was paid for. Wifi is pretty useless feature anyway for me so I love my tour.

And why is it the tour 2 in disguise? Correct me if I'm wrong but only the tour users wver csalled it the tour 2 not rim. Even if they did they have a right to change the name not you.

 
 
Posted by cvaria Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

How about renaming it the BB "available for purchase" 9650

 
 
Posted by davidinLA Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

The Bold 9650 is going to look just like the Tour 9630. I get a feeling that its being numbered the Bold 9650 because its not going to be like Bold 9700. So its going to be a step down from the Bold 9700.

 
 
Posted by Jhazey Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

In my opinion, the reason they are keeping the number below 9700 is because this device will have the slower processor from the Tour and not the upgraded 9700 one.

 
 
Posted by shabbs Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

What's the HSDPA speed going to be on this thing? 3.6Mbps like the 9700 or will it be a sweet 7.2Mbps?

 
 
Posted by youngspider Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

Yawnnnn. Damn RIM

 
 
Posted by moonlessnight Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

Hopefully a release date will be announced in the near future. I've had my Tour for a little over a week, and if an announcement comes prior to my 30 days being up I might have to send it back to get this one. I don't mind the ball, but I'm not fond of the idea of having to clean it all the time simply to use it, and I'm paranoid that after a year it'll just stop working. I hope they announce a release date soon. gndkjfngd

 
 
Posted by mex876 Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

If I wanted a bold I would have been a crappy ATT Customer but I'm not SAVE the TOUR2 Sprint and VeriZon customers are getting the short end of the deal like always!

 
 
Posted by CapnCrunchBerry Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

Indeed.

 
 
Posted by Dendrite Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

I'm starting to feel that this "new device" is nothing more than the same ol' Tour 2 9650 that most of us thought would be released last month. Rather than p*ss off multiple Tour 1 owners with an updated device following right on the heels of the Tour 1, the good folks at RIM decided to avoid that backlash by renaming all those 9650's sitting on their shelves something different- a Bold. No way we'd ever see through that right? LOL

 
 
Posted by shimojunk Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

UGH MEGAUPLOAD?!?!?!??!! really??!?!

 
 
Posted by yelowsnomann911 Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

I think Bold 9730 makes the most sense, because its the cdma version of the 9700. (You know storm 9500 and 9530)

 
 
Posted by mjbesen310 Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

to the final model # is 9650?? not a chance it will go into the 97** at all?

 
 
Posted by Mistik1973 Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

I dissagree that 9100 is just a 8100 with OS 5.0. The specs show it should be a huge upgrade

 
 
Posted by Mistik1973 Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

I dissagree that 9100 is just a 8100 with OS 5.0. The specs show it should be a huge upgrade

 
 
Posted by Mistik1973 Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

I dissagree that 9100 is just a 8100 with OS 5.0. The specs show it should be a huge upgrade

 
 
Posted by rafa2044 Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

Is it going to be the same size as the tour1 or like the bold 9700 [smaller].

 
 
Posted by mjbesen310 Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

x2...I'd really like to get an answer from someone who knows what there talking about since this question is asked all over the Bold forum and no one knows exactly yet

 
 
Posted by green_ember Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

Now print the damn boxes and ship the Essex to me NOW! lol

 
 
Posted by dgburns Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

I agree with he Bold name it should have a 97xx model number. What's next, a 9670 Pearl or something? Come on RIM, u had just finally established some modicum of consistency and now you toss it. Dumb.

 
 
Posted by Dsmithjr Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

Hey Kevin,

Did you notice this on the last page of the manual, "BlackBerry® Bold™ 9650 smartphone model number: RCS71CW or RCS72CW"

What do those model numbers mean?

 
 
Posted by MikeL483 Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

Maybe that's two flavors: With or Without camera.

Mike

 
 
Posted by Dsmithjr Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

One Sprint, one Verizon.

 
 
Posted by FrekeyZeeky Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

no mention of push to talk....

 
 
Posted by USSZulu Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

Link is dead.

 
 
Posted by mjbesen310 Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

who pulled the link? whats the reason behind the link gone now? somethign we wernt suppose to see?

 
 
Posted by CBRblackberry Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

I guess RIM is going to number it what they want to and release it as whatever they want to. They don't care about what we want or what we think. Shame on them for not giving us CDMA users--Verizon is now the largest mobile company--a real top of the line unit!! We should be getting a snazzy looking 9750 now!

 
 
Posted by farico Friday, Mar 12, 2010 804 days ago

The link is pretty dead...can some1 upload it again?

 
 
Posted by Dr.Boost Saturday, Mar 13, 2010 803 days ago

Being kinda pregnant? ;) I am joking around.

 
 
Posted by jadias Saturday, Mar 13, 2010 803 days ago

Ok, so how difficult is it to do a "Find & Replace All" to change a 9650 to a 9730 or 9750? The technical publications can be easily changed in the timeframe they have. I've noticed that RIM is very wish washy during development to the point that we don't know until an official press release. Perhaps the leak was done to gauge our reception of this marketing strategy?

 
 
Posted by mjbesen310 Saturday, Mar 13, 2010 803 days ago

I HIGHLY doubt that the Bold will still be a 9650 by the time it actually comes out. More then likly in the 9730 or higher device number.

those files were made back in the first week of Feburary, obviously older information that will probably be updated by the time it comes out

 
 
Posted by jadias Sunday, Mar 14, 2010 802 days ago

In the end, does it really matter what the branding/marketing designation is, as long as the device is of high quality and does what you need it to?

 
 
Posted by mckillio Saturday, Mar 13, 2010 803 days ago

Why does it matter what the number is? At the end of the day it doesn't.

Having said that, the reason they are sticking with the 96xx is because it has the body design of the Tour.

I do wish that they would come up with consistency, i.e. Bold, Curve, Pearl, Storm and that should be it. What is so hard about this.

Have the first version be xx00 for GSM, CDMA xx10 or whatever and then the second version xx20 for GSM, xx30 for CDMA. Then only move on to the next xxxx for major revisions, i.e. 88xx to the first Bold.

This really fell apart at the end, sorry.