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Posted by jenalyn Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

Well this sucks...after using/purchasing several different apps to communicate with my iphone friends, I thought Kik was finally the go - and it was free! Come on RIM, this isn't cool. Green does not look good on you.

 
 
Posted by Salomondrin Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

This is ridiculous! RIM knows how bad they have! Just give up already. This is just retarded

 
 
Posted by stealthfox Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

Pretty strange if you ask me. I can't think of any other reason besides the obvious similarities to BBM for this. I was actually looking forward to downloading Kik myself, since I have a lot of friends that own other non-BB devices. Could it be they don't want a "free" look alike software to be available to Droid/Apple folks and therefore condem kik?

 
 
Posted by mattmarenic Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

I use PingChat...

 
 
Posted by RoninKSB Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

me too. Full featured, stable and fast.

 
 
Posted by Jean-luc_Picard Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

I really hope that this isn't true, or that it was a bad employee who didn't like KIK and banned and revoked, because I don't think I could stand it if BlackBerry actually pulled an app and revoked licenses because it's too similar to BBM, if it were because of some sort of a bug that would ruin the security of the phone, they should have mentioned it by now, as that's pretty much the only explanation I can think of as to why they would do this short of competition, which I hope it isn't...

 
 
Posted by Tripster Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

RIM you have finally stooped to a level that is equivalent to Steve Jobs BS. Apocalyptic Failure on you're part RIM.

 
 
Posted by shupor Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 547 days ago

How so?

Whatsapp and Pingchat do the exact same thing bbmsgr does and there have been no complaints by RIM about those.

Heck even Yahoo messenger, aim and hotmail messengers are also instant messaging apps that run off data connection too.

 
 
Posted by PDM Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

How can people complain/b*tch ithout knowing all the facts....?

 
 
Posted by Marc_Paradise Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

What do you expect when RIM cross a viral marketing company? ;) I'm just gonna wait to hear the rest of the story, personally...

 
 
Posted by RoninKSB Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

its the internet!

 
 
Posted by makaveli95 Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

Talk about betrayal? I've stuck with the developers of Kik since the very beginning of Unsynced. When Kik was released I was assured that it would be available in the UK within months. I was wrong to have even believed it.

 
 
Posted by fktruong Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

KIK isn't encrypted like BBM is. I like encryption on my BBM so I'm sticking to BBM and forget KIK.

 
 
Posted by JiveMasterT Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

BBM is only good if all of the people you communicate with use a Blackberry. Most of my friends are Android and iPhone users. Communicating over txt is clunky and Kik filled that void.

 
 
Posted by CrackedUp22 Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 547 days ago

Using TigerText... x-platform and secure as it runs on their private network

 
 
Posted by thehansson Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

Apparently RIM doesn't get it. Most in my surroundings have left their BB's behind for glossier machines, but I've kept my 9700.. KIK got me back in the loop for a while, but now I'm the oddball again. Guess it's time to jump ship.

 
 
Posted by gjbsource Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

Wow I'd like for MY life to be so trivial...then again, maybe not.

 
 
Posted by Phony Bologna Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 547 days ago

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not (it's impossible to tell with the rampant stupidity you find online) but I don't think he's being trivial at all. BlackBerry's are communication devices, and not only within a business environment. If you reduce the ability of a BB to be a communication device (especially with your friends and family), then its worth is diminished. Believe it or not, email is not the end-all purpose for everyone when it comes to their smart phones. These days people want integrative features that are more than just utilitarian, which is where RIM falls short in almost every respect. Communicative ease is all it has, and with the loss of Kik, the BB world just got a hell of a lot smaller. With instant messaging, texting is becoming an old hat form of communication. I've been loyal to BB's for a long time but I think they just don't serve their purpose as well anymore.

 
 
Posted by hehfahq Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

No wonder BlackBerry app development is almost nonexistent. I'd expect this from Apple, not from RIM. RIM is blowing it big time. Why would anybody want to waste time and money developing apps for BlackBerry now if this is how they treat developers.

 
 
Posted by RoninKSB Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

your point is that no one develops for BB because they are not open enough but the far more draconian implementation of developer relations practiced by Apple is a runaway success at bringing on developers? Yet you criticize RIM for barring an app.

Based on this logic, shouldn't you be arguing that RIM needs to treat developers worse not better.

 
 
Posted by JiveMasterT Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

I've been tossing around the idea of upgrading my Blackberry in January with whatever is the latest and greatest. This was the nail in the coffin though... I will not be purchasing another device from RIM. Not only is the development platform absolutely garbage, but they treat their developers and partners like absolute crap.

Sorry to say it, but it's only a matter of time before we see RIM go the way of Palm.

 
 
Posted by bodybiz Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 547 days ago

"Sorry to say it, but it's only a matter of time before we see RIM go the way of Palm."

I have to agree. Blackberry used to be the Sh@#*. The ONLY smartphone that was real. Now its getting... Well... Boring and without an app market that competes with Android and Apple and a decent touchscreen, more and more people are going to jump ship. I know its something I will need to think hard about when my contract is up...

 
 
Posted by xDAKx Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

I think it's a bit insane to say "oh I'm jumping off BlackBerry because I can't use a 3rd party app" Kik wasn't that great anyway in the time that I used it, and I'm very curious to see RIM's response to this, I'm lead to believe that there is something more beyond Kik just being removed for no reason.

This doesn't effect my views on RIM, nor does it effect my decision to buy a 9780 in December.

Those who say RIM will go the way of Palm are a bit out of their mind, Palm lacked any communication or commitment with their developers or even users for far too long, failed to innovate or even slightly push the envelope beyond the same Treo model year after year for far too long.

 
 
Posted by Phony Bologna Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 547 days ago

I guess you wouldn't agree, but I think RIM has failed to innovate or even slightly push the envelope beyond the same Bold model year after year for far too long too. What have they done since the release of the Bold 9000 in 2008? On the other hand, I see forward movement from all the other device makers, which, ironically, includes Palm. RIM may not die, but without something to capture the imagination of the larger public soon, I think they'll be relegated to the category of "second-tier product," much like Nokia in the U.S. At best, they'll be a good business machine but not much more. I do have high hopes for QNX though. The public is fickle. If RIM releases a good product, even those who have left will be back. The problem is, they keep releasing flagship devices that are behind the curve.

 
 
Posted by waxor Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

No response? Did you use the app that much? Sure it was a great app, but....

If your IT pushes Content protection, it would prevent you phone from booting.

 
 
Posted by tracksforhire Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

aaaaahhhhh just another to add on top of the soo many reason why i left blackberry for android. RIM sucks Azz

 
 
Posted by devGOD Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

I agree, I left blackberry and won't ever come back. you have to be a blind sheep to be following and listening to RIM's bs all the time. RIM says something is coming out in 6mons tack on 18mons to that.

 
 
Posted by CBfan2409 Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 547 days ago

exactly. im so glad i left rim for androids, i thought blackberry's were the best and i do tech support for rim, i use to stick up for blackberry's but now after having my droid for two months i havent looked back. the apps are a million times better and way more, no hassle to get apps unlike the new version of appworld. rim is going to go down i hate to say it. i deal with phones everyday and i would bet anything rim is going to be dropping way down

 
 
Posted by typezero303 Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

I thought KiK was removed from the App world because KiK was collecting user data without the user's known about it. So RIM wanted to figure out what was going on with the App?

 
 
Posted by lcoulombe Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

Maybe something to do with the fact that when you installed Kik on your BB, it would scan your address book and send a message to your contacts about you using Kik??? Let's wait and see if RIM give their version.

 
 
Posted by StormJH1 Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

This is moronic. I'm not a fan of Kik, and I encourage people to check out either PingChat or Cnectd, which all have their little quirks, but are all workable variations of cross-platform messengers that use data instead of texts, and include "push" messaging (which is necessary to be a true BBM emulator).

But using KiK or any other messenger does not stop people from buying Blackberries. It actually makes me more comfortable being with Blackberry because I can talk to iPhone and Droid users as if they were on BBM and still enjoy the speed and convenience of a RIM device. I could see how service carriers would be upset that people aren't blindly forking over for 1400 texts/month plans, as so many iPhone users currently do, but the use of BBM and these 3rd party cross-platform apps only adds functionality to Blackberry as a brand.

 
 
Posted by devGOD Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

RIM's thinking is if you're comfortable not using BBM anymore what's to stop you from jumping ship. other than the keyboard and BBM what else does RIM really have.

 
 
Posted by Marc_Paradise Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

Personally I stil don't see what Kik brings to the table that other IM clients (gtalk, live, etc) don't, other than a huge amount of self-puffery that became a "viral" success. However, but I don't think similarity to BBM is the issue at all - I think it's the functionality and the way that it's being advertised.

BBM is one of the most heavily marketed features of BB - and the more people who use it, the more compelling a case there is for their friends to buy BB. Now here comes this new service who specifically tells its users - hey you can talk to ANYONE on Kik - BlackBerry, Android, iPhone it doesn't matter. That's a blow directly at RIM's target audience.

At the very least, RIM should have shown more delicacy when targeting a company that's proven they can make virtual firestorm out of a messaging app that (until recently) provided less functionality than its cross-platform competitors. You'd think they'd pause and think, "Hey, these guys are really good at spreading word of mouth, probably we don't want to give them reason to start talking down our platform". (Kik's restraint in this issue has been admirable. )

Alternatively, there's an infrastructure problem - but I have trouble believing that RIM infrastructure can't handle this load...

PS - the new look is OK, but the comments are *huge* compared to everything else - kind of annoying. Also, Disqus integration would be nice...

 
 
Posted by Phony Bologna Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 547 days ago

For me, the appeal of Kik was simply the fact that everyone else was on it. The fact that it was so similar to BBM was just a very pleasant surprise. Sure there might be other alternatives out there, but the fact that 2.5 million users aren't on them makes them infinitely less attractive. I personally hate texting because it's cumbersome. Wait times feel long compared to IM, so I was very happy to be able to have a BBM-like experience with my friends and family who are mostly on iPhones or Android devices now. Suddenly without Kik, I feel disconnected from them again. For me, it's enough to make me want to abandon the RIM ship I've been clinging to for so long, and I think many people are feeling the same way. It's sad because RIM services are truly excellent but they seem to think that's enough.

 
 
Posted by devGOD Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

and this is why no one wants to develop for the BB/RIM... good way to scare off other developers RIM.

 
 
Posted by Stang68 Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

Very upsetting, RIM. I am an Android user and some of my friends are on Blackberrys. Kik was great for chatting with them. RIM is shooting themselves in the foot, PR-wise.

 
 
Posted by The Gift Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

I dont get it, if RIM has a problem with kik. What about the rest?
I use pingchat on my iphone now to communicate to friends who are still on bb. I hope they don't pull that too!

Off topic: like the new look site Crackberry.

 
 
Posted by jcastilloalonso Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

Exactly my point, why is Ping! and Whatsapp etc still available? Something is wrong with Kik, and they won't say.

 
 
Posted by jayemmbee Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

Honestly if you left bb or hate bb why do u constantly check a site dedicated to bb lovers? Makes you seem pathetic to troll and whine,on something u don't even have or like. Btw kik sucks bbm all day, besides there's other measaging apps on there download those RIM removed one not all jeeze. bb

 
 
Posted by Apodidae Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

I really do think this comes down to how Kik was accessing and using the contacts in the address book - much more of a concern than it being another IM app.

I would say it was a minor concern when it was being used by BIS uesrs. It may have really sparked a larger flame if it shared BES contacts from the corporate world.

 
 
Posted by TekWarren Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

I don't understand the hype or how all these new IM services think they can be anything more than a fad. There are several age old IM services that started as computer apps, are solid, and they all have mobile options. Anything else should just be a text. Personally if the IM service doesn't have a computer app I have no use for it...this includes BBM!

P.S.
With the new commenting system and much bigger font the add comment box seems waaay down the page...maybe think about moving it up to the top?

 
 
Posted by bbcoolvan Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

RIM wrong choice: if you want to EXPAND into the market you've got to more open. You guys disgust me, I'd drop my bold for the iphone unless you stop this absurdity

GO! KIK GO!

 
 
Posted by gjbsource Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 548 days ago

And focus more on professionals...I don't think there's enough cheese to go with this whine.

 
 
Posted by sire_aly Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 547 days ago

we want Kik back to blackberry it was the best app before BBM
come on RIM you are looking for the better

 
 
Posted by robj75 Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 547 days ago

1. Re following CrackBerry.com and stating that you moved away from BlackBerry to another device: Seems like a waste of time. However, perhaps you wish to keep updated on current BlackBerry news so you remind yourself why you left or to defend that decision when you find yourself in debate?

2. I don't use my BlackBerry to sit around and chat with other humans on a little electronic device. If I need to send a quick note to someone using a non-BlackBerry device, I send a text. It seems to work quite well. I use my BlackBerry to make phone calls, look stuff up on the Internet, and receive email. I find having a BlackBerry keeps me off the computer as the experience of using a BlackBerry is bearable to read (and reply to a short) email or look up something via the browser, yet annoying enough that I don't want to be constantly typing on it. So, for me, it's not all about BlackBerry Messenger or any other IM chat app.

P.S. Call your friends.

 
 
Posted by yofern Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 547 days ago

I'm with rob on this. I've had a blackberry for eons and to be honest, I never really have used the bbm. Text or my messengers usually do the trick. Not saying whatever convenience kik provided should be diminished simply saying, this isn't the straw that breaks the camel's back. I could care less about this app.

With regards to how it went viral...

Well let's just say they spammed every one of your contacts to begin using the application. Personally, I take my privacy seriously and some startup company isn't going to be privy to my address book so they can market themselves. No thank you.

As for apps? And how they're alienating developers, RIM was right with their last comment, you don't need an app for the web. If there is perfect functionality to your phone, why do you need an app on your phone? To make it fart? To write holiday cards?

I'm sticking with RIM. Once they come out with the new platform for their phones next year to match the playbook, all the apps in the world can be downloaded across platforms. (Android/iphone/bb)

 
 
Posted by Aellus Thursday, Nov 25, 2010 546 days ago

Its pretty naive of so many people assuming that Kik was pulled simply because it competed with BBM. Its also pretty dishonest of Kik to imply that they have done everything possible and do not know why RIM pulled the app. Also, not to mention that there are a huge number of cross-platform IM applications already available that work great and those haven't been banned. There was *nothing* special about Kik.

After downloading the app on my Torch shortly before it was pulled, it became very obvious that it was a horribly written application. I dont know how many times i had my phone lock up, have the battery killed in an hour, or even have the phone reboot just from using this app. I uninstalled it after a day. Every single other person i know who tried it out had the same experience.

That aside, I'm fairly certain that RIM pulled the app because of the way it mines your contact info. That is a HUGE breach of privacy. Sure it creates a "magical" user experience for setting up your Kik friends, but its also downright scary. Put that in a corporate environment and you're in a boatload of trouble. This isnt a surprise at all, and its a shame that Kik has resorted to a public plea in such a misleading fashion.

 
 
Posted by DesHaydee Friday, Nov 26, 2010 545 days ago

I dont see what is so special about KIK. If it's an instant messaging application--then why not use G, AIM, MSN, ICQ or Yahoo messenger? After all, arent all those free and also connect non-bbm users through a live chat?

I personally have not considered using KIK.