During the keynote presentation at BlackBerry World 2012, RIM gave us a sneak peek of some of the cool new features coming to BlackBerry 10 phones. One of the features shown off that got us salivating was the touchscreen keyboard, which takes an extremely innovative approach to predictive text. Instead of placing suggested words above the keyboard, which diverts your attention from the keyboard keys while typing, the BlackBerry 10 keyboard layers its suggestions on the frets between the rows, above the key you're about to tap for your next word. From there you can easily swipe a word up or ignore it. Watching the demonstration at BlackBerry World, it really is brilliant. We're **excited** for it.
What we're less excited about is the youtube video that popped up today showing off an iPhone version of the BlackBerry 10 Keyboard. Dubbed the Octopus keyboard and available as early as next week to iPhone users that have jailbroken their device, the Octopus keyboard is a pretty clear iRIPOFF of the BB10 keyboard. Check out the video above to see it in action. The implementation isn't quite as clean as the BlackBerry version, but the premise is there.
It'll be really interesting to see what, if anything, RIM does about this. I don't know if Research In Motion owns or has filed for any intellectual property over their new keyboard design or has licensed it from someone who has, but my hunch is that RIM wouldn't have shown off something like the BlackBerry 10 keyboard months before the first BlackBerry 10 phone is due to hit the market unless they were comfortable in doing so. BlackBerry is known for having the best physical keyboards, and by previewing the BlackBerry 10 keyboard they very publicly demonstrated that they're gunning to be known for having the best touchscreen keyboards too.
Source: iDB Via: iMore
Fubaz May 13, 2012 at 7:05 pm
looks like the guy is going way to slow for it to work well
and it probably will not learn like the bb10 version will
just an iRIPOFF like stated to keep iphailers happy
mattv888 May 13, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Someone sounds mad.
Kiddo2050 May 14, 2012 at 12:25 am
No, this is good it makes the iPhone better. Should help team crackberry who are all iFans :)
diegonei May 13, 2012 at 8:17 pm
What I can't own, iSteal :)
kennyliu May 13, 2012 at 11:52 pm
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kennyliu May 14, 2012 at 2:03 am
Yes, next in line to be iStolen is the Playbook OS UI/bezel gestures. Oh, sorry, did I say Playbook OS? I meant webOS ;)
After that, the revolutionary RIMnovative camera feature developed by ... Scalado and presented to the world almost a year ago ;)
Kidding aside, why so much hate?
A third-party iOS developer who's not affiliated with Apple developed/copied something that is probably not patented by RIM. Besides, the predictive engine in BB10 is said to be licensed as well (not really a RIM innovation either).
So no big deal here. This happens on all platforms. Everybody in the industry "steals". Especially, if there is no obvious recourse.
And, most importantly, a note to other posters: "He who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones" ;)
Toodeurep May 14, 2012 at 7:03 am
Thanks so much and keep up your good work!
FunktasticLucky May 14, 2012 at 8:35 am
I think people are missing the whole point. The innovation is not the predictive txt engine that is being used. The part that is innovative is the words appearing above the letters on the keyboard then swiping up to choose them instead of typing out the whole word. That my friend is extremely innovative and I might actually give up on my SureType keyboard we'll see.
texazzpete May 14, 2012 at 2:23 am
'iPhailers'
Pathetic.
Bilaal May 13, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Absolute c**ts. Just watch how many ignorant iPhone fans dismiss RIM ever showcasing the idea before someone developed a third party app for their f**king toy. Yeah, I'm mad!
Jake Storm May 13, 2012 at 7:09 pm
As soon as BB10 launches, Apple will try to sue RIM.
vlade31 May 13, 2012 at 7:10 pm
U mad, Bro?
BerryClever May 13, 2012 at 11:47 pm
Wazzzz Up?? Cannot wait for "U mad, Bro?" to go the way of "Wazzzz Up?" and the fist bump.
scaramanga89 May 14, 2012 at 4:52 am
With you on that.
"Cool Story, Bro" as well. Consigned to history.
shebmiller May 14, 2012 at 10:12 am
I see what you did there...
Detective M Downs May 13, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Sucks because, most won't think Apple ripped it off, rather they created 'another' cool feature.
LewLew23 May 14, 2012 at 12:25 am
Sadly, this is probably true.
texazzpete May 14, 2012 at 2:24 am
The more interesting question is why, at your age, you cannot comprehend simple written English.
This is a jailbreak app...Apple has NOTHING to do with this. How hard is this to understand?
world traveler and former ceo May 14, 2012 at 3:30 am
Let's just hope that RIM has patented the process and can sue anyone that copies it!! ...
Also another reason RIM should not release any "cool" new features until it is ready to release its own product!!! ... not 5 months beforehand!!
vlade31 May 13, 2012 at 7:09 pm
The comments on this post will be hilarious. I'm sticking around…hahahaha!!!
Kevin Michaluk May 13, 2012 at 7:10 pm
+1
bbmtna May 13, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Popcorn anyone?!
Someone will be around shortly with your drinks too
Revord May 13, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Oooh, extra butter on mine, and no ice in the soda... :D
CanisMinor May 14, 2012 at 3:39 am
Completely agree - what is it with more ice than soda?
mattv888 May 13, 2012 at 7:09 pm
This is why you buy a phone with an active development team so that you get breakneck features before anyone else. Rooted android phones or jailbroken iPhones will always have this benefit over blackberries and windows phones. Get used to it and stop complaining.
GeekBerry9900 May 14, 2012 at 7:13 am
U know what the meaning of development s? U must say Robber-lopment...Now I understand clearly why apple named their phones with prefix i, it means idiot phone so if we call iUsers who are using iPhone, then u know who u r, right?
mattv888 May 15, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Using this type of grammar to call people idiots...yes this is exactly the demographic blackberry wants to put forward. How does owning the best smartphone (being an iPhone or android phone) make one an idiot? Wouldn't that be considered a smart thing to do?
I come here for the playbook news (a cute hobby), I leave due to the mindless fanboys that continue their irate hate for superior phones.
Stop being irrational and smell the coffee: BB10 has a lot of potential but OS7 bites the DUST compared to every other modern smartphone out there.
This comes from a person who owns a playbook and owned the 9900 till the 4s came out (yes, I got that fed up with it and sold it for a profit).
mikepraba May 13, 2012 at 7:11 pm
WOW, Is it a robbery or what? I bet RIM"s lawyers are on the move. I bet The Octopus people going to be left with their underwear once RIM done through. it is also disappointing to see one of the two big features RIM showed in the Blackberry world is out , I also learned today the Camera feature Blackberry demonstrated is coming in the New HTC phone. I am not feeling good.
Pearl9100 May 13, 2012 at 8:31 pm
I really hope Rim bi tch slaps these dou ches with a big lawsuit. Fingers crossed.
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r0v3rT3N May 13, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Hopefully, I'll send this video to @asaunders telling him to get RIM Legal on this.
That is just unbelievable...
flashop May 13, 2012 at 8:53 pm
I got to see the new HTC feature first hand its not the same as what RIM showed off. Instead of recording it just takes snapshots prior to the final shot and allows you to pick and choose which part you liked better. With the rewind feature RIM showed off it seems as though its taking a video as you capture the picture to catch that perfect moment.
Either way both features are nice and I'm glad RIM is adding features like this now.
idcup0 May 14, 2012 at 1:54 am
I"m quite agree with that the camera feature bb demonstrated is coming in the new HTC phone.
matthewaugh May 13, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Unbelievable.
ezequieldamico May 13, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Kev, this is actually pretty good, for the first time in a long time "iOS" is copying some cool "BB" features, and not the other way around; the whole industry got used to copy iOS features, till now ; )
Kevin Michaluk May 13, 2012 at 7:14 pm
True that. As long as BB still always get credited for the innovation, I won't be mad. Hack ripoffs will happen. Man.. I wish I could just go to sleep for a few months and wake up and have my BlackBerry 10 phone.
CDM76 May 13, 2012 at 7:18 pm
YOU probably already have one ... Disguised as a white 9900. ;) Cant think of another reason you would give up your P'9981
BB_Bmore May 13, 2012 at 7:23 pm
+1 took the words right out of my mouth.
ezequieldamico May 13, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Exactly, BB have to get the credit for the innovation. BB should promote this and make a big deal about it. This info should get to all smartphone users, it should appear in all tech sites, not only BB fan sites. I think we have a nice thing in our hands : )
BBPandy May 13, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Yes today everyone takes ideas from everyone else. BB10 has elements of windows, webOS ect. BUT what posses me off is that Apple always seem to claim in innovations for them selves :(
Instead of the "octopus" keyboard they should call it the BB10 keyboard
FSeverino May 13, 2012 at 10:53 pm
I said the exact same thing after day one of BBWORLD lol
ignites May 13, 2012 at 7:14 pm
RIM please send a cease and decease im certain rim has a patent over this.. if not big big big mistake cause this is a deal breakre.
dadathepanda May 13, 2012 at 7:16 pm
iRIPOF? then what is it called the RIM ripoff of SWIFT KEYBOARD? too funny
bldshd May 13, 2012 at 7:22 pm
RIM didn't rip off the swift keyboard they actually licensed it
Kevin Michaluk May 13, 2012 at 7:22 pm
@DadathePanda No offense, but you should know what you're talking about before you leave a comment.
There's a difference between ripping something off and licensing it. As we blogged about after the PlayBook OS 2.0 launch, it was clear that RIM is **LICENSING** the Swiftkey predictive text engine for that OS 2.0. I don't know if they're licensing it for BB10 too (I'm guessing yes since it's the same platform), but licensing the predictive engine is NOT ripping off Swiftkey. It's working with a partner to build the best product possible.
As for the unique UI / presentation on the BB10 keyboard, that's what matters. The actual predictive word engine doesn't. I don't know if the UI on the BB10 keyboard would also be licensed... but it has the flavor of a RIM innovation (RIM knows keyboards).
Get it? Got it? Good.
sk8er_tor May 13, 2012 at 8:37 pm
+1... Got it?
s2by10 May 13, 2012 at 10:54 pm
+1 told
Bold_until_Hybrid_Comes May 14, 2012 at 1:33 am
+1
siddo_d May 14, 2012 at 2:44 am
Yeah kevin, you go girl LOOL
bbui4 May 14, 2012 at 7:26 am
You make a great point. RIM is LICENSING the predictive text engine which would not make them thieves. To other people who do no know this, it also means that RIM has NO basis to sue another company because they have not created the predictive text software. It would be difficult to patent a UI since they are always changing. To be honest, most UI's seem to borrow/copy from other companies.
dadathepanda May 15, 2012 at 1:54 pm
I got a reply from Kevin. That's a first! YAY!
And the reason I said RIM ripped off Swift Key is that I did not hear them acknowledging the partnership during the launch, that's all...
Anyway, I'll keep talking smack abt RIM so I get replied from Kevin :) ...and one day I'll post all the smack talk from my shiny brand new BB10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hurds May 13, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Who cares, seriously. Maybe iphone users who jailbreak their phone, but this post seems more appropriate for imore.
Is this an iPhone site?
Its too bad they can't make 3rd party apps to improve cell reception.
Kevin Michaluk May 13, 2012 at 7:25 pm
It's a BlackBerry site of course. And I disagree. Gotta keep the Nation informed of this kind of stuff... so everybody is in the know and educated when it pops up during dinner conversation. Plus I'm pretty sure a post like this will pop up on every site, so it would be odd if we didn't cover it and everybody else did.
hurds May 13, 2012 at 7:33 pm
I disagree. We educate ourselves quite well and I don't see why we need to be informed on what iphone has. Its a third party app that isn't even out yet and you have to jailbreak your iphone to use. Doesn't seem all that important but I'm sure you'd agree its going to create a lot of arguing.
Looks like you beat Rene to it.
sk8er_tor May 13, 2012 at 8:39 pm
That's why you don't run this site and Kevin does. Get it? Got it? Good.
_StephenBB81 May 13, 2012 at 7:34 pm
I agree this post very much
This has a Place on CrackBerry, it show cases RIM innovation, it show cases that other platforms want RIMovation!
We haven`t had a lot of feathers in the RIM cap as of late, this is a great feather.
hurds May 13, 2012 at 7:45 pm
RIM has had a lot of 'feathers in their cap'. You're letting the media influence you too much. You have to spin this too to make it a positive. I'm a first time PB and now BB user and there are tons of positive things about these devices. People seem to ignore of the positive of RIM and focus on the negative. RIM with their current products have innovated more than anyone else and they don't need jailbreaking or third party apps to do it.
_StephenBB81 May 13, 2012 at 7:54 pm
I'm a BlackBerry user, heavily
I know of MANY great features RIM brings, but in terms of marketable feathers in their Cap, very few of RIM's features are new, the stuff I love about BlackBerry today is very much the Stuff that converted me from a Windows phone user to a BlackBerry user back in 2008,
The PlayBook had a LOT of positives each of which the media turned to negatives, This is one feature RIM has that can't be turned negative, and is the envy of the other platforms
bldshd May 13, 2012 at 7:41 pm
I'm wit u Kev
firsttimecaller May 13, 2012 at 11:50 pm
+1 "Its too bad they can't make 3rd party apps to improve cell reception"
iamthiagosilva May 13, 2012 at 7:19 pm
What's the problem? RIM used the same method of managing multitasking system that WebOS had, in BlackBerry OS 10, the home screen with icons is the same thing as the iPhone's home screen , that was launched in 2007!, and the screen with the widgets / tiles (don't know what they are or how RIM is going to call this feature) is just a mix of two features from Android and Windows Phone.
BB_Bmore May 13, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Sorry but blackberry was the first device to have the homescreen with icons. Not iclone.
iamthiagosilva May 13, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Ah yes, a touch screen with large icons that could be divided into several screens.
If we're talking about a home screen with icons, Nokias used this format long time ago. What I said was a new method of interaction, the way was shown by Apple when they released the iPhone in 2007.
BB_Bmore May 13, 2012 at 8:37 pm
No...you may be saying that now but that's not what you said. Shall I quote?
lavo96 May 13, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Its a toss up between the Nokia Communicator and the original USRobotics Palm Pilot to who was the first device with a icon-based homescreen, with touch. Both were released in 1996, 3 years before the first Blackberry :)
And to be more pedantic, the original Blackberry was a pager. It wasn't until 2003 that the Blackberry style we know today was released....a year after the first Handspring Treo was released. IMHO, this is the first smartphone that laid a path for what we have today, on any platform. And even then, Pocket PC 2002 (released in 2001 lol) was out on smartphones - although that follows the WinCE design rather the the icon-based design of the Treo.
And now we have BB10, with a homescreen mechanism similar to the Nokia N9's swipe and multitasking similar to webOS......swings and roundabouts I say :)
Blackberry_boffin May 14, 2012 at 11:40 am
I thought we were talking about a keyboard's predictive text placement here that was first SEEN when RIM unveiled it a few weeks ago.
Not the ubiquitous homescreen grid that neither RIM or Apple have claim to.
It's fair to say anyone who implements it would have been beaten to unveiling it by RIM.
Anyone disagree?
_StephenBB81 May 13, 2012 at 7:59 pm
RIM's Icons have evolved from their icons used before Apple entered the Smartphone market
RIM has been displaying icons in a grid again since before Apple Launched the iPhone,
RIM's "tiles/Widgets" as referred to in your post from what is known are not tiles widgets but applications running simultaneously like they do on the playbook
as for WebOS similarities, I can't argue there, RIM has adopted many of the WebOS ideas, some improved upon, some actually not as nice yet.
iamthiagosilva May 13, 2012 at 8:12 pm
On the part about the widgets / tiles, I mean on one of the screenshots "leaked" that showed four squares that were miniature versions of applications that were running, so I called Tiles / Widgets.
I did not say that copying models interface is a bad thing. I think that's a perfectly normal practice and it's valid if the intent is to copy something and improve its implementation (as RIM did with the WebOS multitasking).
lavo96 May 13, 2012 at 9:18 pm
"On the part about the widgets / tiles, I mean on one of the screenshots "leaked" that showed four squares that were miniature versions of applications that were running, so I called Tiles / Widgets."
Which has been pinched from the N9. In fact, most of the new BB10 interface is remarkably similar to the N9 in front of me.....but I'm glad they pinched it, as its a brilliant interface and Nokia don't seem to want to continue innovating. So I hope Blackberry takes it to the next level (and a BB will be my next phone!).
knowledge_6 May 13, 2012 at 10:52 pm
home screens have been around way before the iPhone.. and might i add iPhone has not changed it's UI since 2007.. pathetic!! ya ya ya why change what works.. well it's BORING!! and OLD.. but i can see why people like it.. it's simple... a little too simple... i don't want the same phone as a 10 year old kid and a 80 year old grandma!
and no mobile company copies anyone.. it's a natural evolution of features and things people need in a smartphone!!
So your definition of BB copying other devices..
iPhone has a camera.. copied
iPhone has a notification pull down .. copied
iPhone has a calendar.. Copied
iphone has a home button .. copied
iphone has a volumen rocker.. copied
iphone has a power key at the top.. copied
iphone has auto focus.. copied
iphone has a iMessage..copied
iphone has a VGA front facing camera.. innovative and top of a line? haha
so there you have it .. iPhone copies everyone!! (not really, it;s just their evolution of their product.. just like BB has their evolution...)
siddo_d May 14, 2012 at 2:49 am
+1
They are more than that that apple and the iphone has copied
bbui4 May 14, 2012 at 7:30 am
+1
And yet they spend their days suing every other company for adpoting the few features they innovated.
--TommesJay-- May 14, 2012 at 12:20 pm
RIM enhanced the WebOS idea with a bunch of bezel-gestures. What kind of all-apps-homescreen interface shall a full-touch-smartphone show up instead of an overview of all installed apps simply by their icons? Are icons in any way innovative nor were they invented by Apple? Ridiculous. And great if you see things we can call "tiles" or "widgets", but that isn't any ripoff of Windows Phone or Android, because the whole concept is different. On Windows Phone you have a homescreen with live-tiles, which show very little information, but doesn't give a real inside-view of any running apps. Same thing with Android-widgets. These are just little "modules" to show up information without the need to open an app. But the tiles you see in BB10, I bet, aren't any widgets nor tiles on a homescreen. This is a multitasking-screen. It shows you the running apps minimized and at realtime, the way the PlayBook does. Where the hell has this anything to do with Windows Phone or Android? The point in BlackBerry 10 will be, and I bet again, that there WILL BE NO HOMESCREEN anymore. A homescreen is a default view, from where you start your actions. But what for? All you need is a list of all installed applications, a realtime multitasking-screen, a notification center and an options center. And in BB10 that is all reachable at one fingertip, no matter where within the OS you're operating, like it is on the PlayBook, where you can drag down the options menu within every application, without going back and forth. There will be no more starting point, from where to act, it all flows. And thats a thing, that has been there never before, wether its iOS, WP7 or Android. In no way BB10 is a ripoff of anything else out there.
aubinhick990 May 13, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Yeah, I don't see the big deal with this. This happens all the time in Android/iPhone world. Ideas take off and you can find them right away. It's not the consumer's responsibility these days to wait on slow acting companies such as RIM. I'm really not trying to troll here, but this is what happens when only one company can make "core" OS features. BB10 will be out in months, which is forEVER in the mobile world. We can't expect innovation to wait on RIM. That's why they're where they are today.
sexyboy31 May 14, 2012 at 6:56 am
Finaly somebody gets it all wait ever did was break the wagon +1 to this post
bitek May 13, 2012 at 7:25 pm
If this is patented rim should sue immediately. Apple style. No mercy.
xandermac May 13, 2012 at 7:25 pm
This is what pisses me off about BlackBerry. I was using my Torch 9800 when I read this story and I tried to watch the video and got an error that it was not available. Pulled out my iPhone and the video played perfectly first time. Maybe if rim focused on the basics like a decent browser that can actually play a f***ing video and less time with a touchscreen keyboard that nobody gives a fuck about perhaps they would have less problems. I shouldn't have to reach for another device just to watch a video.
BB_Bmore May 13, 2012 at 7:39 pm
A 9810 would have played that "fucking video" buttery smooth. Just so you know. :)
_StephenBB81 May 13, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Shhhhh
All BlackBerry's are the same,
a 2 year old BlackBerry has the same features as a new one and clearly RIM has done nothing to advance BlackBerry since a users last purchase of a BlackBerry
BB_Bmore May 13, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Okay if you say so.
xandermac May 13, 2012 at 9:05 pm
I see. So we shouldn't expect much from a 2 year old blackberry then? Funny, that's not what you were saying 2 years ago. Even funnier I fired up my 2007 iphone & guess what? That's right, it played the video, yeah, a 5 year old device yet here you are making excuses for a 2 year old device. I guess iphone owners with older devices obviously are more discerning and expect more from the company that claims to support them.
PS, the torch was released August 2010, its not even 2 years old. It also runs an OS that is currently shipping on some devices yet that OS can't play a simple video? Pathetic. Glad I have another device that can pick up where my blackberry fails miserably.
knowledge_6 May 13, 2012 at 10:55 pm
works fine on my friends 9800, and another friends 9800.. maybe it;s your 9800!!
and my iPhone 1 digitizers broke within 6 months.. does that mean it was crap? then get rid of your blackberry and move on.. we don;t want u hear
mnhockeycoach99 May 13, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Don't tell him that, you might hurt his feelings.
mnhockeycoach99 May 13, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Someone get xandermac a few tissues... one to wipe his tears and the other to clean the KY off of his iToy so he can watch videos (which apparently he can't on his Berry.. but my Bold 9000 from 3 years ago can) and play Angry Turds while he hates on his BlackBerry because he can't figure out how to use it.
knowledge_6 May 14, 2012 at 9:19 am
that's why people need the simplicity of an iphone.. cause they can't figure out how to use a blackberry.. those menu options and features confuse people!!
what?? ring in holster? out of holster?? what?? what is a menu button?? what?? application management? CPU? what is all this stuff?
i love samsung's analogy of iphone users... SHEEP!! followers and dumb and don't know what's going on around them...
lnichols May 13, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Works fine on my 9900 and my Playbook. So I'd say they have addressed the browser just fine on the current devices.
BBPandy May 13, 2012 at 8:45 pm
+1
I watched it on my PB.....I'm also posting this on my PB while waiting for the waitress to bring me my food.
.....gotta love the portability of the PlayBook!!!
mnhockeycoach99 May 13, 2012 at 11:06 pm
+1000
Double threat... a PlayBook paired with a Bold 9900/9930.
touf1302 May 14, 2012 at 4:42 am
Oh yeah! U gotta love Blackberry Bridge and the power that it unlocks!
Sidenote: My 1st post on CB :)
Lotsa love from South Africa!
bvinceb May 13, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Worked fine on my 9800.
BB 9800 n Playbook -
sexyboy31 May 14, 2012 at 6:58 am
+1 to this post my 9900 won't play the dam video either smh
soren203 May 13, 2012 at 7:25 pm
figures....
mikepraba May 13, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Buddy, you are confused. The screen you saw on DEV ALPHA may not be the screen of bb10. You sound exactly like someof the BB bashing media. But again. It is a touch screen phone, You need the icons on the screen to touch. Do you think Apple will change the icon on the screen to some magical display?
iamthiagosilva May 13, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Maybe I haven't used the best example when I mentioned the iPhone's home screen, but even so, several parts of the PlayBook interface are taken / adapted from other systems.
And it does not take away the merit of a developer that implemented a feature of the BB OS 10 in a short amount of time. This shows that the BB OS 10 features may no longer be significant when it launches at the end of the year. Delaying the release of BB OS 10 means that they will compete with what Apple, Google and Microsoft launch before RIM new mobile system.
Yoox_II May 13, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Can RIM sue over this? Or is it not possible because it's just some third party app developer?
iamthiagosilva May 13, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Well, they (RIM) have not released the system or any device with the system (with the keyboard) yet, and if they had a patent on the method of operation of the keyboard, I'm sure Crackberry.com would have reported.
I don't think they could sue, and if they sue, think of the situation: giant company sues small developer. Think of the bad propaganda that it could generate.
BBThemes May 13, 2012 at 8:15 pm
they could (in theory) apply now for the patent and use it, as they have `prior art`. that and the fact the video makes it very clear they are copying the BB10 keyboard lol.
bbui4 May 14, 2012 at 7:33 am
And what patent would that be? Swyping up to add predicted text? I hope you know that they can NOT patent predictive text (which many have been using since 2010 on Android). The only difference BB10 will have is that the words hover over each letter instead of being listed in a row over the keyboard.
ithinkin10 May 13, 2012 at 7:30 pm
First of all, imitation is the best form of flattery.
Second of all, there seems to be no logic behind this keyboard. You can see when he is typing that random words are presented. How does will? How does speak? How does enjoy? How does to? How does you? How does up? How does is? None of those make sense.
sahil123 May 13, 2012 at 7:43 pm
My thoughts exactly!
He might have been able to port most of the 'fancy' features about the keyboard. But the true power is the engine behind the word prediction. Also the fact that the BB10 keyboard learns your stroke placements over time is a huge feature which has its effects over time. You can only copy what you see ;)
Premium1 May 13, 2012 at 7:34 pm
At the rate it will take RIM to get bb10 out much more will be copied and most likely made to work better on other devices than it would have on a bb anyway
BB_Bmore May 13, 2012 at 7:36 pm
How flattering!! This is a good thing. Make no mistake there will be much copycat going back and forth. There always has been and always will be.
Strider2112 May 13, 2012 at 7:40 pm
I don't think RiM can actually sue (or SwiftKey or whatever) unless they actually called it SwiftKey or used the same proprietary techniques in programming it.
McDonald's can't sue Burger King for making a hamburger with cheese on it, can they?
BB_Bmore May 13, 2012 at 7:45 pm
That all depends if the cheeseburger has the "secret sauce" too!
Bold_until_Hybrid_Comes May 14, 2012 at 1:41 am
Depends what parts of this rim has patented.
BB10FTW May 13, 2012 at 7:40 pm
I am not a fan of Apple but, they have absolutely nothing to do with this "new" keyboard. Apple hates jailbreaking with a passion so I can only imagine that they are not at all thrilled to see such a desirable reason to jailbreak your iPhone.
RIM's BB10 keyboard is much more refined than this Octopus Keyboard. For one, look at how the words are on the keys, what if the words on 2 keys beside each other are long?It looks like they will overlap and that would annoy me.
Thorsten and other executives at RIM are not stupid and wouldn't show case such an innovation unless they had a plan to keep it as their own. On the other hand it is possible that there is nothing they can do but stay ahead and have the best keyboard. The BB10 keyboard certainly looks way better.
The two things I thought of when I saw this was flattery and a warranty that is now void. RIM created something amazing and people noticed and want it! The other thought had to do with jailbreaking and how you void your warranty. Is it worth it? On BB10 you get the best keyboard ever and its native, it is going to be awesome and is going to be tested to work with everything. The Octopus keyboard is not native and cannot be downloaded from the Apple App Store. Advantage RIM.
GeekBerry9900 May 14, 2012 at 7:32 am
Totally agree. I believe RIM has their own plan and reasons to show new features. Do hope they are going on right way.
Btw, i am wondering how new keyboard (BB10) is working if users are not typing English? And even typing English, feel (just imagine) strange when you type letters and swipe at the expected-words. Our fingers should b tired lol... :D
From my point of view. I still prefer physical keyboard like Bold 9900. It s amazing keyboard ever!
Cheer up, RIM!
Crypt1c May 13, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Lol you guys need to chill out. That's something that will only be on cydia, its not anything Apple had to do with. Much like swype being on iOS. And most times they never really work perfect.
blueyestm May 13, 2012 at 7:48 pm
that can't take away my physical keyboard.
my only question is what font is that? :)
bbmtna May 13, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Just for fun, I walked on over to Imore to see how Renee posted this bit of news.
And in typical fashion, here's the first two sentences from their first comment:
"Wow!!! Blackberry is finally getting to 2005. Finding a faster way to TYPE??? No wonder their stock is tanking."
I'm obviously keeping my comments to myself on that line, however for those who like to watch posts like this unfold, i suggest having both posts open in separate tabs
Hobbes2099 May 13, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Call me optimistic, but this seems like a fantastic step in the right direction. RIM must be doing (designing) something right if the iOS user base is trying to port a version for their "elite" platform.
RIM has been mocked and put down in the latest stretches of the smartphone arms race, but now RIM is coming full circle. BlackBerry's designed has been ripped off before, it even was considered among the first drafts for the Android lineup. Seems RIM is becoming a source of inspiration once again.
dbmalloy May 13, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Here here.,,,, when you get :Jailbreak" in an article you know Apple has nothing to do with it.... so why everone is so upset with Apple is beyond me.... If is shows up on IOS 6 and is liicensed then RIM is SOL......
axeman1000 May 13, 2012 at 8:00 pm
who cares, isheep users will have to jailbreak their 600 dollar cant multitask but have one button to help people confused with more buttons phones just to have the feature. its bad enough they have a phone that they cant even pull the battery out to replace if they choose i am sure they would not void their warranties (especially on a screen cracking device like the iphone) just to have an amazing keyboard. if so, that would make them more stupid to not just go to get a bb10 phone when it comes out. it is going to be better anyways.
BB 10 is going to be awesome.
shief May 13, 2012 at 9:42 pm
It voids warranties Yes but all they have to do is wipe and restore their iPhone and the jailbreak is gone. Apple has no way of knowing it was ever jail broken. So yeah they're not stupid
erhan8 May 13, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Unless somewhere throughout the process they brick it, which I have been witness to. Aaahaaahaaa.
sexyboy31 May 14, 2012 at 6:43 am
+1
Crypt1c May 14, 2012 at 7:49 am
It no longer voids warranty if an idevice is jailbroken.
texazzpete May 14, 2012 at 2:34 am
Hmm
When i think of my nearly $600 Bold 9900 with its incredibly annoying OS freezing/lagging, the abysmal battery life that lasts for little over half a day and the camera that has no macro mode, making it terribly frustrating to snap close-up photos of receipts and wireless hotspot passwords on my PC screen, I wonder if i'm not a sheep for upgrading from my bold 9780 that at least had a decent battery life.
It may be the 'in' thing here to constantly diss the iphone and iPhone users, but there's a reason why the iPhone has had the #1 customer satisfaction rating of any smartphone while BB users are leaving in droves in North America.
sexyboy31 May 14, 2012 at 7:14 am
+1
Douglasfx May 13, 2012 at 8:03 pm
This app will not work like the bb10 keyboard because HE'S NOT USING CASCADES HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
erhan8 May 13, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Exactly!!!
Thank you.
axeman1000 May 13, 2012 at 8:04 pm
it says right in the video, imitates what blackberry showed at the show. no worries, they are copying rim. nuff said. baaahhh!
Jonathank May 13, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Hope RIM files a suit
anthogag May 13, 2012 at 8:14 pm
It looks like a second rate copy. This is why RIM couldn't show more at BBW.
That dev put the words on the keys. What a joke.
TaylorMarie93 May 13, 2012 at 8:15 pm
WHAT THE F**K?!?!...
mikelcal May 13, 2012 at 8:30 pm
You know what the funny part about this is? Within a week there's going to be about 15 imitation apps, but nothing will beat the real thing...
world boss May 13, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Have you seen the BB10 interface?? Microsoft and Apple should sue
lavo96 May 13, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Actually, Nokia and HP should sue first ;)
bvinceb May 13, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Funny. Which parts of the limited view of the possible BBW0 UI resembles apple, microsoft product?
BB 9800 n Playbook -
Master_of_Karate_and_Friendship May 13, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Funny the word "imitate" starts with an "i"
BBPandy May 13, 2012 at 8:57 pm
LoL
BB_Bmore May 13, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Wow great work by this dev!!
He managed to build an app that makes it even harder to type on the Iphone than it already is.
FAIL.
kdna May 13, 2012 at 8:49 pm
There should be a class action lawsuit by BlackBerry users against this developer. Stupid f***
lavo96 May 13, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Why? Outside of a handful of BB Devs using the Alpha BB10 device, no Blackberry user has this keyboard. In fact, between now and when the first BB10 retail device comes out for sale, anything could happen and the keyboard might not see the light of day. You can't sue people for getting your jocks in a knot ;)
If RIM were smart, they would be hiring this guy, pull the app, and use him to help develop BB10.
ksoroch May 13, 2012 at 8:49 pm
The gap from keynote to real world has always been a problem with RIM. Announce and then wait or never deliver it. Unless this gets addressed soon the bleeding will never stop. Expect the camera on iPhone and Android by end of month
wizmillso May 13, 2012 at 9:02 pm
LOL first off, its a jail break, so it's not technically Apple doing it. And second its a JAILBREAK so it's gonna be buggy and terrible. And an apple keyboard with swipe, is still just an apply keyboard, meaning its not any better. And if you recall, the blackberry keyboard adjusts to the position at which yo push the letters. Its a PERSONAL keyboard. I have all faith that rim's keyboard is a billion time better than what anyone else can come up with.
erhan8 May 13, 2012 at 10:20 pm
+1
Killaserpent May 13, 2012 at 9:06 pm
This is some bull crap, I really hope Rim can sue this developer but this should teach RIM to stop showing off the goodies until about two weeks before BB10 is ready to be launched. I can't wait btw BB10 is going to be wicked.
nextlevel88 May 13, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Yeah, and I downloaded a "SureType" keyboard for Android once too. Not even close on quality. Nonetheless, better get a move on, RIM. This is just the beginning. I hope you saved some serious secrets for this OS.
donnation May 13, 2012 at 9:25 pm
You guys act like Apple is stealing an idea. This is just a keyboard that someone made for jailbroken devices, which Apple is adamantly against. Who cares anyway, it's not like this is going to increase sales of iPhones or stop sales of BB10 phones. Some of you weirdos really need to get a life.
djhankfresh3000 May 13, 2012 at 9:33 pm
I love when we get the crab robots who bash BlackBerry on here. Must be Nothing going on in your lives currently.
nbosi May 13, 2012 at 9:33 pm
lol If all it's true for sure some RIM lawyers are moving...... ahahah aaand for say something of apple....... i wanna quote this:
"Good artists copy, great artists steal." ahahhah
donnation May 13, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Nice troll bait Kevin. No wonder so many people attack this site. That keyboard has nothing to do with Apple.
djhankfresh3000 May 13, 2012 at 9:47 pm
They attack out of pure stupidity, I mean really if you are satisfied with your current phone and OS then be satisfied. Robots!
berry4eva May 13, 2012 at 9:59 pm
so glad to be iOS user. we can enjoy it in a week, and berry lover can enjoy it on the end of 2012 , but wait, with some delay as usual, its gonna be end of Q1 2013. come on rim, show us more interesting stuff. we'll gladly take it from you.
klangst May 13, 2012 at 10:37 pm
I for one am glad your an iOS user because what you get to enjoy in a week will be the "knockoff" version that in the end will make you less productive because it is a piece of crap.
El Platanero May 13, 2012 at 10:02 pm
This is why RIM kept some secrets to themselves. Only the jailbroken iphones will have access to this app so it's not a big deal. Not to mention all the themes that we as blackberry owners have purchased that resemble the competition. Along with that we have apps with the slide to unlock function. So you see we are all biting off each other.
Long story short is that RIM is not out to compete with Android or Apple. They are going after the go getters of this world and if those people don't see the value in blackberry then they are free to play with their toys. I for one can'tnwait for my new tool.
erhan8 May 13, 2012 at 10:06 pm
This is a prime example of why we don't want all those garbage apps that other platforms have. I prefer quality over quantity. This app is a cheap imitation by some no name developer out to make a quick buck by being an opportunistic cheat. Getting all wound up over it solves nothing. I'm sure RIM will handle their business. Besides they don't have Cascades! When you step back and look at the big picture, RIM is on its way back up. BB10 and PlayBook will prove to be a powerful tool for professional users, and many will return to the RIMPIRE.
Let them imitate all they want, they will never duplicate.
djgolu123 May 13, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Ok, i love RIM but this is NOT being copied by Apple guys.. it's done by some 3rd party devs
smartie88 May 13, 2012 at 10:31 pm
don't know why you guys are mad. Jailbreak means illegal and not from Apple. If some of you want root BB, I am sure you can have next week too.
springbok May 13, 2012 at 10:32 pm
I think it's quite clear from a lot of people's comments thus far that it's not Apple who made this app, so we can postpone suing Apple for the time being.
The other point that's quite clear is that it isn't a very good imitation! Check out 1:02! On the W key, it has "will speak" and it runs on top of the E key for "enjoy". It's not even grammatical if you chose a lot of the keys' next word. How does will speak? How does does? How does you? How does how? And "jeff" isn't capitalized, etc., etc.
Also, we're not seeing the swipe-down to reveal symbols, like they showed for BB10, nor the swipe-left to delete whole words. Keep working on it, dude!
jabraunski May 13, 2012 at 10:35 pm
haha i love how you people blame this one on apple. Do you realize this is a jailbreak, something that has NOTHING to do with Apple....prob some blackberry fanboy that has to use an iPhone and made this tweak.
ITS A JAILBREAK...NOT APPLE
Bold_until_Hybrid_Comes May 13, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Where in the article does Kevin blame this on apple?
jabraunski May 14, 2012 at 9:12 am
Not the article,the comments from the people.
BlackberryTorcher May 13, 2012 at 10:40 pm
This is outrageous!!!!!! RIM needs to file a lawsuit! They are ruining things for BB10 before its even launched!
tlo07 May 13, 2012 at 10:46 pm
I'm looking forward to seeing it on Cydia. I'll definately try it on my iPhone. When I had a 9550 and also when I had the 9810, I always liked using the reduced keyboard because it was so fast and so incredibly accurate. Thats one thing blackberry has down to a science. I'm not anticipating this Octopus keyboard being that good, but it might be fun to try.
crazyinuk May 13, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Kevin, I really appreciate this post.. And btw I used predictive text to post this comment lol haha... See you in court iMitate (props to karate for the word play)
Upgraded to 9530
bbaleno May 13, 2012 at 10:54 pm
"it doesn't know the word favorite, let me add it"
Guess what my PB does cause I just used it. And I didn't have to add it. Oh and octopus isn't out yet. The only difference is the words are at the top of the screen instead of on the letters. A cosmetic difference that will be fixed in os10.
Bold_until_Hybrid_Comes May 13, 2012 at 11:08 pm
The predictive text on the playbook is not blackberry. It is licensed to them.
Bold_until_Hybrid_Comes May 13, 2012 at 11:03 pm
For those saying imitation is the greatest for of flattery...It is- if you get credit for it first and you're device is actually released. The way it is currently panning out, when a BB10 device drops most sheep and/or blackberry people will assume they stole the keyboard/predictive text feautures from a third party apple developer.
I think this is a sleazy move on the developer's part. It is cleary at that stage in alpha development where you can tell he just quickly started development after it was shown by blackberry.
kev- is there any way we can find out if we have a patent for these features in bb10?
deswayze May 13, 2012 at 11:18 pm
This is precisely why Thorsten said he needed to keep some things secret!
pagozahd May 13, 2012 at 11:27 pm
RIM should SUE them....
massari81890 May 13, 2012 at 11:46 pm
In my opinion, if RIM has the chance to sue, they should. I hope that this design was either licensed or patented because, as Kevin said, this was RIM making it clear that they rule keyboards (both physical and touch). If they let this go, Androids will also copy the design. I know that it's just a third party app, but it still doesn't make it okay. I'm glad that RIM will have this keyboard as part of the BB 10 OS...even if Androids and iPhones copy all of BB 10 features, I still wouldn't leave BB for them...
Cannot wait to get my hands on a BB 10 device!
Camfella May 13, 2012 at 11:49 pm
El Platanero wrote:
......Long story short is that RIM is not out to compete with Android or Apple.......
Then who are they competing with?
marko868 May 13, 2012 at 11:58 pm
iLaughed when iSaw this cause RIM should have had their thinking caps on and filed a patent or agreement of some sort with the maker or the tech! iStill laughing lol
berrybait May 14, 2012 at 12:14 am
It's pretty clear why RIM needs to keep 99% of BB10 under wraps until just before launch. This particular developer may not have the keyboard working smoothly yet. But it's only an alpha version, and it will improve over time. There will also be others who will copy as well.
Apple and Google are keeping a very close eye on the BB10 launch. I don't think they're underestimating RIM's potential for an amazing device,and neither should anyone else.
latingeo May 14, 2012 at 12:53 am
From the looks of it, think RIM stole another patent. I can smell a lawsuit against RIM from a Korean company who actually made it 1st
varunsain May 14, 2012 at 12:46 am
Let the dumasses have it first.. That way.. when the actual BB10 is out.. they will realize how they are fooled everytime..
BlackBerry PlayBook 32GB & Torch 9810
http://www.twitter.com/varunsain
Rootbrian May 14, 2012 at 1:28 am
It's an app for jailbroken iDevices.
Glad iApple didn't steal it. Hope it doesn't reach the iphone "HD" (iPhone 5) before BB10 devices come out. Apple will be in allot of deep doodoo when RIM sues. SEND THIS TO RIM!!! Just make them aware before it's TOO LATE.
APPLE WILL NOT COPY US!! Besides, I don't intend to buy their products, I won't due to DRM restricting just about everything thus making them defective by design.
Superfly_FR May 14, 2012 at 2:01 am
CM'ON GUYS !
Peal-off your college suits: if RIM soft keyboard (being it licensed or owned) makes a new standard; this is good news. Let iPhones users get convinced that it is the best keyword in the world, learn how to use a yet jailbroken and pretty laggy version and enjoy the real experience later. No big deal, just free promotion.
siddo_d May 14, 2012 at 2:04 am
RIM needs to patent this or something- if it was there's
texazzpete May 14, 2012 at 2:41 am
I love how you folks are up in arms over an iPhone jailbreak app that less than 5% of the iPhone owners will ever potentially use.
Just you wait until it arrives on the Android Market (Sorry, Google play). It probably will not require root access so tens of millions of Android users can jump on it easily. Don't bust an artery when that happens ;)
mattv888 May 15, 2012 at 12:34 pm
It already is, it's called swiftkey. This isn't new, RIM's just licensing it.
siddo_d May 14, 2012 at 2:54 am
Even if it is a dev for apple its still being used when they might not even have the rights to do so
ATV_Hightower May 14, 2012 at 3:28 am
swipe "F" for "cost" (1:30)
...i give an "x" for "fail" to that :D
Bold_until_Hybrid_Comes May 14, 2012 at 11:31 am
I'll give it a "s" for still on alpha build...
lnichols May 14, 2012 at 6:54 am
Open Theft, I mean Source, community is hard at work I see.
wout000 May 14, 2012 at 7:09 am
While i'm not too fond of this blatant copying I am however smiling cause instead of RIM catching up, it's the other mobile OS playing catch up now (although by a third party developer). Showing there is a need for it or just showing that it's cool and useful.
The keyboard being copied is at least a statement that it's actually an innovative cool feature.
Keep on trucking RIM!
bkupris May 14, 2012 at 8:24 am
Would be nice if the new BB keyboard was included in the next PB OS2 update I say get it out there sooner rather than later :)
guerllamo7 May 14, 2012 at 9:49 am
I really have issues with Apple's corporate behavior but this one is not their fault. Price fixing, tax dodging, terrible working conditions for component manufacturers, restricting apps that compete against iBooks, backroom deals, yes no question. But this is just a third party going "wow! that BlackBerry keyboard is so awesome that I need to try to replicate it."
People say RIM is not innovating but I say when I look at their last twelve months and the next twelve months they are doing just fine on innovation.
irwindersra May 14, 2012 at 11:32 am
why are ppl getting so worked up over this!? IF RIM has a patent or license on this then they need to take legal action show show ppl they still have a backbone, but if they dont, im sure there is a way for them to still file the patent. aside from legal action though, i thikn this is a good thing, ppl are copying what blackberry is doing, this means that they are leading the pack, for once, and if more OS and app developers are trying to be like blackberry, i think thats a good thing, more cool usefull things like this and its only a matter of time before ppl jump ship and join the BB team.
on a side note, im surprised nobody has copied the time warp feature yet.
Perjade May 14, 2012 at 1:30 pm
A storm in a teacup ! Does anybody, except some writers here, really care at all ?
antheauxny May 14, 2012 at 1:34 pm
I do agree that it's copying BB10 keyboard but don't blame Apple for it. It's not APPLE that made that keyboard. It's an app developer. So before you guys go bashing Apple & the iPhone, you need to rethink what you're saying and blame the app developer that made it.
tedrex May 14, 2012 at 2:21 pm
This is what happens when you announce a product that does not exist for sale.
This is what happens to design idea of UI, which is hard to come up and protect but easy to steal.
Stop whining and start accepting reality.
digitalhomeboy May 14, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Much like the quite angry yet funny comments I feel the pain, but when someone or persons copies such great innovation I see it more of a compliment. The fact that this portion of BlackBerry 10 has already been developed for another platform goes to show that people/developers are keeping a watchful eye on RIM. I applaud the great attempt from the developer from a semi-developers stand-point. Though the developer clearly copied as @tedrex comments finishes "Stop whining and start accepting reality". Look at the many themes that look like iOS and Windows! Should Apple and Microsoft start suing theme developers?
@CrackBerryKevin, thanks for sharing. It's great to see your feedback and clarifications on the several post. ^The DigitalHomeBoy
danjv1 May 15, 2012 at 8:39 pm
I'm so happy...
iphone wants to be blackberry....
Berries forever!!!!!