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Posted by bb-rookie Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

That would make it a lot more user friendley!!! Good thinking

 
 
Posted by YourFriendWayneD Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

Read my comment on the previous "Theme World" blog post Kevin did before this and look at the comments to get some great insight from my POV and other theme developer's POV - as you see we all agree with your post - Good Job Kevin!

 
 
Posted by Artem Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

Great job. As one of active theme developers in the App World, I completely agree that they should split apps from themes. These are just 2 different types of content.

 
 
Posted by Stang68 Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

I really hope RIM rips you off and take this idea :P

 
 
Posted by berryfit Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

Kevin, good one. But I know something about design, designers and the top dogs in companies. The look they have is what they want! You have that very close, but Id guarantee they'd rather go for 3 big blocks at start up. Apps, Games, Themes. Nice icons, then the rest you have would be perfect...but the first page would probably be more graphical for category choices, or a scroll through for all categories.

Only saying this because I'll guarantee they like the big icons on the homescreen...just trying to think like them and what they would, and really should do.

They missed the mark with this one. Themes are more prevalent than apps and games for BB's. What they're doing now is just almost totally blocking out apps.

"Cant see anything but Themes? We've got an app for that"

 
 
Posted by BBThemes Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

ya wanna get a patent on that idea sharpish kevin, make a fortune lol :)

they have to do it, i mean as im lookin at the vote this second its 96% to 4% so a massive majority who agree :)

 
 
Posted by g_man_6 Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

Great idea Kevin! Make it happen! I believe in you!

 
 
Posted by nez Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

RIM should implement this immediately and cut Kevin a check for a job well done. I would LOVE to see this happen!!!

 
 
Posted by ScottAlan13 Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

It is really annoying to look at nothing but themes on the top 25 lists. It needs to be split up. I also clicked on the Disney Pooh theme thinking it was a game only to find out it was just a theme. How many themes does one phone need once you find one you like you usually stick to it. The apps are the things that get used on a daily basis and need to be separated from the themes.
I guess we will just have to stay with the crackberry store!

 
 
Posted by joejohnson9182 Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

You bring up some interesting points in your analysis of the issues that are basically ultra stupid mistakes.

As far as your solutions tho...no offense Kevin but I do not consider you a design specialist. Your suggestions will address the issues yes, but if the App World is going to compete with the App Store it's gonna need to do a ton more than that. It's going to take some fundamental changes. I do not see any innovation on RIM's part...anywhere.

Your suggestions are gonna help BlackBerry look...not so stupid, but it won't help them look any better or show that they know what they are doing lol

They need help from an experienced outside company and not internal employees...who are probably accountants disguised as graphic designers. I must say however, those accountants they are getting A LOT better.

 
 
Posted by webmastir Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

you just made your self even more $$$ kevin. expect to soon be contacted by RIM. :)

 
 
Posted by bonocchio06 Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

RIM should implement this forth with and with great abandon. I also agree that they should cut Kevin a check IMMEDIATELY if not sooner. DO IT!!!!!!

 
 
Posted by whocancatchme Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

Kevin worth RIM alone !!! Give him all the stocks

 
 
Posted by netposer Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

A few things RIM can do to fix this:
Of course keep them separated across the board.

Find a way to preview the theme on your device without buying it. Applies to non App World implementations too. Maybe some sort of theme emulator.

And RIM should do something about the way each theme re-arranges every single icon and folder so you have to spend way too much time moving things around. Hell, make it so Desktop Manger can do this...wtf? I hate installing a new theme unless I have at least 15 minutes of time to hustle to get everything where I want. Damn RIM make it where I can list icons and then tell the device where to move them. This one-by-one of clicking and moving sucks.

One last thing. Give me the option to tell App World to scan my device and inventory all my apps into App World so it will keep up with updates and newer versions.

And fix the way App Wold notifies me. A few months ago I would get an email link telling me a particular app had an update.

Oh yeah, one more thing...develop BBM for the Windows/Linux/Apple desktop...

 
 
Posted by Smiley88 Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

As a application developer i dont think Themes belongs in AppWorld period. If you look at the newest and featured areas. it is a all themes and everywhere

 
 
Posted by LoneDwarf Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

I suspect a manager came over to a programmer and said 'What is the fastest way we can support Themes?'. At which point the junior programmer right out of the University of Waterloo reply's 'We can make them apps and it will just work!'.

 
 
Posted by BBA Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 
 
Posted by Azothyran Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

True that. Good point.

 
 
Posted by devGOD Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

the version coming in 2010 has sub options for the top paid and free. it was mentioned on the rim bb forum

 
 
Posted by igotjackberried Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

app world just looks messy now

 
 
Posted by Azothyran Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

Maybe not something exactly like this, but some sort of selector/separator would be nice. It is frustrating to see nothing but themes at the top of the App World list. I find that they should make the App World function like it had a million more applications already in it...

Make it easier to find applications you want. In the search field, Have a few more options like "Category" or "Genre" for games and themes next to the search bar. That would make it easier to find a narrowed list of applications...try to drive it away from being keyword-dependent.

 
 
Posted by McNooberson Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

Would definitely make things easier for the user.

 
 
Posted by Markv Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

This is an awesome idea, great design. I thnk this would spice it up a lot as well as cut down searching time. It will definitely let the buyer cut to the chase!

great work!

 
 
Posted by dcorx Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

more free apps like the iphone has

 
 
Posted by noob766 Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

I'd say try to get paid for it but if that doesn't work the entire blackberry would be indebted to you if you donated this.

 
 
Posted by noob766 Friday, Dec 11, 2009 793 days ago

But I think they need to seriously develop their apps more. they are lagging far behind the other competitors.

Stop making new OS Revisions and give us some good apps RIM!

 
 
Posted by gorgalis Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

Now just lower those prices in that picture and you are on to something

 
 
Posted by maris691 Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

the whole bb app world theme is so wrong i had downloaded one of thier themes and it totally messed up my phone i had to reload the software thanks to that stupid theme!!!!

 
 
Posted by boldkeyboardholic Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

i'll try this app

 
 
Posted by MikeDroid Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

Dude,
I hate to burst all the bubbles... But this is how Google Market is set up... And btw, didnt kevin just recently go to Android anyways... Way to go and be original with the same design... AWESOME JOB hahaha

 
 
Posted by cafe_civet Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

As an avid user/consumer on App World, I would greatly prefer this compared to the current implementation. RIM, are you listening?

 
 
Posted by mper Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

The tabbed layout would be incredible. It is painful to sift through themes in the App World in order to find a good app and vice-versa. High level separation of themes and apps would be a big usability improvement. Splitting games off to their own super group also makes alot of sense.

 
 
Posted by TSMQ Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

completely agree

 
 
Posted by Floont Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

I don't know why Games and Themes are in BlackBerry "App" World. "App" World should just have apps. If I want games or themes, they should be elsewhere under a different icon, or rename App World to something else. If I wanted time-wasters, I would have gotten an iPhone.

 
 
Posted by ridsel Friday, Dec 11, 2009 793 days ago

Games and Apps are both programs in my book. A game is an app whose purpose is entertainment.

 
 
Posted by gonzoanthro Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

Crackberry App Store should keep apps, themes and games seperate!!!!!!!!!

Hypocrites! I contacted support twice with this suggestion and they were all like, "yeah we're going to have that soon..."

That was last year.

Morons.

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

Thanks for your kind comment. Try reading my first article that I link to in the opening sentence. I stated this was a problem with our CB/Mobihand App Store. That's why I was surprised RIM didn't learn from that, as it's pretty easy to see from observation that treating themes the same as apps is messy.  Good news it IS being addressed soon for the CB store. Agree with you 100% it needs to be done... and it's coming. Wish it would have been here a year ago too.

 
 
Posted by gonzoanthro Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

Hey I apologize for the moron comment - that was rude and show-offy. Its easy to just flip off a harsh comment like that, and cheap.

I am a bit miffed that I fed you guys this idea, as others likely did, months ago with an email and got back a prompt response saying something along the lines of "yeah we're on it, man. We have that idea already. Its coming shortly" and then nada. Those of us who buy a lot of apps from CB App Store are really frustrated with the nauseatingly endless variants developers put out on a single theme - they run for pages, say the same thing except the color is different, and are really too numerous altogether now. I scroll for three pages just to see one single new app. What do these theme-fiends have a BB for anyway? To look at pretty colors or to get work done?

Again, sorry for the "moron" comment. That was mean and uncalled for.

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 793 days ago

hey, it's all good. totally understand. all i care about is the passion! as long as people care, which you do, that means things are good (but can always be better!). it's if and when ppl quit caring that there's a real problem.

regardless, hope to see some better organization in all bb app stores soon!

 
 
Posted by gonzoanthro Friday, Dec 11, 2009 793 days ago

Thanks, Kevin. That's gracious.

 
 
Posted by robotaholic Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

you caught 'em!

 
 
Posted by BerryGuy25 Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 794 days ago

It's interesting to see RIM do a half-ass job like this. I really think they should have held off from implementing themes into App World and done some research first. Did they really not look at their community first to see what was happening? Of course viewing Crackberry along with a few other sites would have avoided this mistake by RIM. Are they that high and mighty that they just didn't give a flying leap and just released whatever? I expect more from such a corporate entity.

 
 
Posted by D_Town_Tony Friday, Dec 11, 2009 793 days ago

I may be a little biased since one of my themes is the #1 paid DL but even I think having them separate would be great, or at least have the option of viewing the top apps/themes separately if someone wants to. I love the sales, and I love the exposure, but sometimes I would just love to be able to see the most downloaded game too.

 
 
Posted by VZWRocka Friday, Dec 11, 2009 793 days ago

Just make a separate ThemeWorld store and call it good.

 
 
Posted by R1cE Friday, Dec 11, 2009 793 days ago

Man kevin that is a great idea!!! RIM should hire you as a GUI designer or somethin

 
 
Posted by f1l4 Friday, Dec 11, 2009 793 days ago

First, I would like to see AppWorld available to me.
List of available countries is joke.

 
 
Posted by netposer Friday, Dec 11, 2009 793 days ago

RIM is EXACTLY like every other big company out there in that they have amazing people working there but those amazing people have IDIOT managers that are more concerned with moving up the corporate ladder and playing politics than they are with providing a better customer experience.

I bet some designer or engineer came up with a great system and some douche-bag manager had no clue and didn't sign off on it.

So sad...

 
 
Posted by CeluGeek Friday, Dec 11, 2009 793 days ago

My only concern is how to keep the list navigable with non-touchscreen berrys. I guess some hotkey(s) to take you directly to Apps, Games or Themes will do the job.

 
 
Posted by iWaffles Friday, Dec 11, 2009 793 days ago

Great idea Kevin! My Dad works for RIM, so I forwarded this to him, maybe he'll know who to give it too so they can do something about it, in case they're not already doing so.

 
 
Posted by Polywog Friday, Dec 11, 2009 793 days ago

I agree that the current App World is a mess, and hardly worth
visiting. On the other, most of the screens look like Apple's App Store. Colours are different, Title and company are swapped. And rating and price are in different places. But essentially exactly the same thing.

What RIM needs is something brand new.