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Kiddo_24 Feb 22, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Just what I was waiting for! Thanks, Adam!
rballing1 Feb 27, 2012 at 10:32 am
Help! I am new to this whole forum but not to blackberry as I have had one as long as I can remember. I do however have a playbook 64GB and I am so interested in using android apps along side the 2.0 os. I read so much but it is dizzying as when I look at the post they appear old in nature as they are talking about the SDK 2.0 beta. What I want to know is after i upgrade to the 2.0 os recently will I have a built in Android App player as was stated in so many on line forums? If so can someone please explain in great detail what I must do to activate this and use it? From one loyal bb user to another.
Darlaten Feb 22, 2012 at 4:18 pm
So much for accuracy in Best Buy's 2.0 add that was posted on Crackberry last week that indicated Kindle would be included.
goku_vegeta Feb 22, 2012 at 4:28 pm
They had corrected that pretty quickly
kingofthenerds Feb 22, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Oh come on, the wording was "blah blah apps and access to Kindle and..." they clearly meant the cloud reader from the weaselly way they worded it.
Darlaten Feb 22, 2012 at 7:56 pm
RIM behaving weaselly. Say it ain't so.
AfroZepher Feb 22, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Thanks!!!
guerllamo7 Feb 22, 2012 at 4:27 pm
This is a great post and it will make many happy. However, although I may side load something else, I will never buy from Kindle again.
The promised to be preloaded and then gave us the shaft.
Shaft me? Shaft you Kindle!
Kobo works great for me and I'm sticking with them. I never used Kobo before I got the Playbook but I sure do now.
Besides, who wants to buy from a company that is cheating the system by not carrying their fair tax load.
shuabert Feb 22, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Plus, Kobo, like RIM, is Canadian.
Support Canadian companies!
Kspraydad Feb 22, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Kobo is not Canadian...it was purchased by a Japanese firm that fancies themselves as another Amazon ...
http://blog.kobobooks.com/kobo-positioned-for-international-growth-as-ac...
BerryClever Feb 22, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Does't matter where the company is located and or where it started. Support the best company. To me, who cares if it is Canadian, American, Japanese, British, etc... I just want the best service/product and will not support something blindly because of what landmass it is on or started on. :)
nikolas4129 Feb 22, 2012 at 6:25 pm
So...you don't support locally grown food either then eh? That's your right of course.
However, here no one is diving into Kobo blindly as you state it, all else being equal or near equal, if you can buy Canadian it's better for us all. Keeps GDP up, keeps taxes and profits in canada, helps to keep Canadians employed. It's all positives. Even if it's not the best product, support will keep them in business, allow them to improve and take on the bigger players.
blargy Feb 22, 2012 at 11:02 pm
What do you mean, better for all of us? I'm from the US! And I strongly support this Canadian company of "American" Apple and Google any day.
I also vote Nintendo (Japanese) vs Microsoft and Sony.
I also prefer to buy American when I can.
Go figure.
BerryClever Feb 23, 2012 at 12:44 pm
I would buy most locally grown food because it is fresher. That is a benefit.
I believe in buying from the best (best is of course subjective). If an American store like Future Shop (owned by Best Buy) is better than a similar Canadian store, then guess who gets my business. Americans get the rap up their for being too "patriotic", to put it nicely... well there isn't much of a difference between the two countries.
As much as I do like Canada, I will pick stores that have the best service, prices, etc... and if "all things are equal", I will chose based on connivence, history, and personal perception of the company... never based on something like it's "corporate nationality".
Edit: But we can all agree that RIM is a company that we support and that it is deserving to be supported both in Canada and internationally! :)
miller11 May 19, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Kobo is not a canadian company by the way. For further details you can visit the relating websites.
http://androidtabletpcnews.com
goku_vegeta Feb 22, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Agreed, I'm loving Kobo, I knew about it beforehand so I knew it was something I could trust. They do have a pretty good selection, I can find great new titles as well as the old classics. With Kobo being Toronto-based now that adds some more Canadian Pride, too bad it was bought out :(
blargy Feb 22, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Not carrying thier fair tax load? Well, that's arguable... They're not avoiding paying taxes, they're trying to circumvent making consumers pay sales tax, to maintain a competitive pricing edge against local, quick aquisition stores.
It's something I find it hard to complain about... Though it affects me less since a lot of what I buy is tax free anyway, being military.
BerryClever Feb 23, 2012 at 12:13 pm
agreed
musical1806 Feb 22, 2012 at 4:30 pm
So will I need to buy anti-virus software for my PB now How does all this side loading effect my security?
crwblyth Feb 22, 2012 at 4:58 pm
This is a BlackBerry, I don't think there are ANY security worries with sideloading :)
cjterminator Feb 22, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Even if you side load they are run through Android app player and security is built around it. So no worries.
musical1806 Feb 23, 2012 at 2:00 am
Thanks for the info on security. What about the need for anti-virus. To the best of my knowledge Android is the only mobile OS that is so riddled with wholes that it needs additional protection, so how does this effect my QNX device(s).
musical1806 Feb 23, 2012 at 2:00 am
Thanks for the info on security. What about the need for anti-virus. To the best of my knowledge Android is the only mobile OS that is so riddled with wholes that it needs additional protection, so how does this effect my QNX device(s).
PostMortem Feb 22, 2012 at 4:31 pm
This is great. I don't personally have use for them, but I'm sure that there are those that do. I do welcome options though.
What I really want is silverlight compatibility. Also skype and Netflix wouldn't hurt (yes, Netflix is not the only service that uses silverlight). Everyone that I care to video chat with already has a PlayBook, but I'm the minority, so that should help catch the general publics eye.
Really enjoying this OS - eventhough they could have handled synchronization better. I'm sure that is on its way. RemoteControl/Bridge/OpenOn make this all worth it.
yamezsr May 26, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Hey do you think the whole netflix problem lies within silverlight, what I mean is we may be looking for the wrong .bar file, everyone is looking for the netflix.bar and we should probably be looking for silverlight.bar.
Mazzorz Feb 22, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Awesome Job Adam !!!
So far 243 different extra apps for playbook pretty wide selection... but for some reason I see this opening a can of worms for the complainers …. My 3rd party app doesn’t work HELP!!!
roosterroo Feb 22, 2012 at 4:33 pm
This may sound silly but I'm not very technical and I'm a new PlayBook owner, is sideloading apps in this way legal (I'm in UK If that makes a difference ) and does it effect the PlayBook warranty. I'd like to try more apps but don't want to mess my PlayBook up
crwblyth Feb 22, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Side loading is a feature for developers to test their apps before they reach the app world. It's legal... if you're not using paid-for Android applications.
taylortbb Feb 22, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Side loading itself is perfectly legal and is a feature built by RIM for developer use.
The potential for being illegal is if you sideload an app you don't have a license for. Generally this would mean a paid app you didn't purchase.
Apps are sandboxed and have limited ability to hurt your system. There's two exceptions to this:
1) When you first start an app some of them will ask you for permission. Don't grant anything you're not comfortable with. If you grant an app access to your shared data it can read/modify your files. This is important for an office suite otherwise you couldn't open documents, but it could be abused by a malicious app to modify a document you didn't authorize, or even delete a file.
2) Any app that starts with sys. is allowed to make system changes. These apps can ONLY by produced by RIM, if someone else tries to make one (or even modify a RIM one) it won't install. While by themselves they're not harmful (they are from RIM), taking one from a different OS version and installing it on your PB can cause issues. Best advice is stay away, there's no good reason to do this.
Xavier85 Feb 22, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Thank you! I've been answering WAY too many questions about this very thing the last two days. Hopefully this will help!
TheStoof Feb 22, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Not to be the buzz kill here, but some of these apps are paid apps.
the brother Feb 22, 2012 at 4:40 pm
So i still need to do all this developer-mode nonsense to sideload?
patatdrolleke83 Feb 22, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Yup, but i'm a beginner with this and imo, it's easy and fast! :)
the brother Feb 22, 2012 at 4:58 pm
You followed the steps inthe tutorial link and went into Dev Mode? Seems easy enough. Thanks.
ashiluv Feb 22, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Why can't appworld just make them available?
goku_vegeta Feb 22, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Because it takes time to approve them and get them into app world, plus some of these apps are user converted, that is the developer did not convert the .apk android file to the .bar blackberry file.
crwblyth Feb 22, 2012 at 5:01 pm
The creators of the app are responsible for whether they are available or not, not BlackBerry - bug them or wait if you wish - or just sideload! :)
taylortbb Feb 22, 2012 at 7:49 pm
The creator of the app is the only person legally allowed to submit them to App World. If they haven't been submitted you should ask the creator of the app, such as Amazon or Google why not.
stephaneldugas Feb 22, 2012 at 5:22 pm
do i need to be rooted for this to work
BerryClever Feb 22, 2012 at 5:29 pm
No root is required. But it seems as if a PC is required. I cannot find a nice easy way to do it on a Mac yet :(
illini2097 Feb 22, 2012 at 6:26 pm
1. Make sure the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) already installed on the Mac. Check in Applications / Utilities
2. Download Playbook Tools from Hatax (http://emtunc.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/PlayBook-Tools.zip)
3. Extract the downloaded file, put in place / folder that are easy to remember (desktop)
4. Move all the contents in folder 'lib' folder 'Playbook_Tools'
5. For convenience, place all files that end in '. Bar' in 'Playbook_Tools'
6. Open up Terminal
7. Use the command "cd" and navigate to the folder 'Playbook_Tools'
example:
cd desktop
cd Playbook_Tools
8. Run command:
java -Xmx512M -jar "BarDeploy.jar" -installApp -device THEDEVICEIPHERE -password THEDEVICEPASSWORDHERE YOURAPPHERE.bar
Terminal will initialize the installation, and run through the progress
BerryClever Feb 23, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Thank you! I actually found a thread about it after I posted. Still having issues with authorization failing. I am going to try to play around with it today though. It has to be something small that I am not seeing.
Edit: got it working... it was a password issue.
dwill400h Feb 23, 2012 at 2:57 pm
i side loaded the apps on my playbook but when i try to open them they just crash or wont open at all....HELP PLEASE
andrewmcwhirter Feb 22, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Does anyone know if the Android Rdio app will work on the PlayBook?
dreadlocks10 Feb 22, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Is this available for Mac?
klinton Feb 22, 2012 at 5:52 pm
It is, but you have to download the SDK and do this on the command-line. The instructions are on the forum somewhere.
Used it to load Kindle and Medscape. Wish they were native.
gethighadl Feb 22, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Hey guys I purchased a used playbook but I can't find a usb cable anywhere so can someone tell me where
can I get the right usb cable I would appreciate it thank you
.
xtremesniper Feb 22, 2012 at 5:53 pm
You need a USB to micro-USB cable, something like this: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id...
derrickps3 Feb 22, 2012 at 5:51 pm
great post, i added more android apps to my playbook :D
Decile Feb 22, 2012 at 6:52 pm
This could have been explained in 3 steps :
Turn on dev mode.
Get Bars, Run Program. (and c'mon, everybody has Java, we played MineCraft allright?)
Configure Program, click Install.
robchow Feb 22, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Someone asked about security for side loading and the answers provided where 1) that it is Blackberry and 2) that the side-loaded app is run in Android app player. Whether these answers are correct is up for debate and I am not concern if the Android app will access my PB items. What I am concern about is whether or not the BAR files can contain any malicious code that can have it called home (the original Android app may or may not have malicious is not what I am debating but the process of creating the BAR files is).
Should I be worried about providing my Amazon username/password for the Kindle app that was BAR'ed and that information is sent to the BAR's creator?
def1014 Feb 22, 2012 at 7:59 pm
I side-loaded Kindle already and agree with you. I don't trust providing the application my credentials. Your Amazon account has payment options saved, etc.
panterarck Feb 22, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Many if not most of these apps were converted by members of this forum. These apps have been around for a while and used extensively with the beta os 2. They is no reason to worry about security because they really isn't any way to corrupt the file during the course version process. Side load and enjoy!
TeaBoy Feb 22, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Is it safe to do this?? What is the worst thing that will happen?
def1014 Feb 22, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Infamous last words
BB_Bmore Feb 22, 2012 at 7:19 pm
all these bars have mediafire links... no good.
zenadventurer Feb 22, 2012 at 7:30 pm
This may be the single most valuable post in the history of Crackberry. Thanks...and thanks for the links. Works like a charm and I'm not particularly adept at this kind of stuff...so don't be afraid to give it a shot. In fact, I'm a Mac guy and figured it out on my wife's desktop while she was at work. Also found some pics of her and some guy she has apparently been dating, but that's another story. I'm just glad I figured out how to get Kindle on my Playbook. Note that the Java Runtime Environment dealie is probably already up to date on most computers, so you might want to check before you download the install (was already updated on my wife's compy and it's 2 years old and I doubt she does a whole lot of updating of anything other than her boyfriend's photos). Oh, and I'm kidding about the bf and the photos. At least I hope so.
vhorst Feb 22, 2012 at 9:25 pm
+1 Just made my day.
maddie1128 Feb 22, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Wow!!! And I was sitting here feeling all sorry for you. You got me this time! lol
BTW the info was good though!
md540 Feb 23, 2012 at 4:38 pm
I totally agree with this post. Side loading is very straightforward and installing the apps is easy. So far I am very pleased with how apps run on the tablet.
hitnar Feb 22, 2012 at 8:18 pm
I getting a Java error message when I try to load DDPB. I will not let me load any files. Can anyone confirm it works?
BBPandy Feb 23, 2012 at 12:18 am
You don't have the Java runtime eviroment installed correctly.
civilian101 Feb 23, 2012 at 9:14 am
Got this error when I first tried, then read somewhere that there was a later version of DDPB (ver 1.0.8). Googled it, got a download link and everything worked like a charm after the newer version was installed.
robems01 Feb 22, 2012 at 8:37 pm
WHAT A MESS !!!!!
jpassarella Feb 22, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Ack! Just side-loaded a couple after installing FIVE email accounts. I couldn't remember my PB password and it just told me it's erasing my PlayBook. About to scream. I haven't used it so long... and the old BB Bold 9700 password wasn't working. Now what? How do I get back to where I was? I'm ready to toss this out the window!
It should offer to EMAIL you a forgotten password; or reset through your registered email. Not just this nuclear option.
herculesinwyoming Feb 22, 2012 at 9:04 pm
your welcome
pmich Feb 22, 2012 at 9:05 pm
I have everything installed and running but i can't figure out how to get any ".bar" files downloaded. Feel like such a tool. Nothing is working.
omniusovermind Feb 22, 2012 at 10:29 pm
A warning should be in this article that these apps are not all retested as stable. I've tried a couple that force closed so often as to be unusable.
GallagherPreach Feb 22, 2012 at 11:06 pm
Believe it or not, I called about buying a Kindle today. I am sure glad I did not! Thanks for the information!
jvcvem2003 Feb 22, 2012 at 11:57 pm
I'm scared to try. If anyone knows or can try, would the Onlive app work on the PB?
PH1L Feb 23, 2012 at 12:00 am
Has anyone loaded android apps using a Mac without using a virtual machine i.e. Parallels. Can't get the thing to load apps after trying the steps using Playbook-Tools and Terminal....
rbpotter64 Feb 23, 2012 at 12:36 am
BPotter The spreadsheet no longer lists a link for the Kindle app. Would someone please post a valid URL? Thanks...
SteelGreek Feb 23, 2012 at 8:31 am
From the forums...
Amazon Kindle 3.2.0.35 (Thx to - frodobuggins ) : http://www.mediafire.com/?3derjri0iqf77gl
Snoman002 Feb 23, 2012 at 12:47 am
Now at 261 apps! + or - a few that slipped through untested. Not too shabby considering we were at 243 before Megaupload was busted and lost 100 files when it went down.
Please thank the guys doing the converting, they are the ones doing all the hard work.
SteelGreek Feb 23, 2012 at 8:32 am
And thanks to you also for compiling the list!
tsquare2 Feb 23, 2012 at 9:52 am
Big THANK U to all the guys converting the android apps so we can enjoy them on PB!
phoreoneone Feb 23, 2012 at 2:31 am
Thank you adam :)
macqueena Feb 23, 2012 at 4:08 am
I am brand new to PB and wanted to sideload some apps however I couldn't find them after they were installed, I tried several times to no avail then purely by chance I turned my PB round to portrait and lo and behold I coould see them on the home screen. So I simply dragged them to the second homescreen reverted to landscape and they were there.
Anyone else seen this ??
arvind1983 Feb 23, 2012 at 4:17 am
Excellent, thanks so much. Almost every Android app i tried works perfect. Yahoo messenger, facebook, pulse, quickoffice, paper toss.!! wow playbook turned into a superbook overnight!! excellent job guys, thanks.
bosoxfan51682 Feb 23, 2012 at 6:34 am
Does yahoo messenger have video chat capabilities?
arvind1983 Feb 23, 2012 at 8:02 am
Sadly video chat for yahoo messenger requires a video plugin to be downloaded from the Android market. Hopefully some good souls can upload a working bar file for that too. Rest works great, even the notification behaves like native.
world traveler and former ceo Feb 23, 2012 at 4:28 am
Great Post! . Thanks ... this should complement well what is already an awesome Playbook 2.0!!!
ODAAT Feb 23, 2012 at 7:25 am
I thought I would wait for them to appear on App World.
For about two seconds.
Then I fired up the Playbook and installed Words With Friends, IM+ Pro (which has the same connection difficulties as the PB version so I deleted it again), Kindle and K-9 Mail for some IMAP folder love.
I used Words with Friends on the beta version of the Android Player (back when you basically installed the entire OS) and it was so slow and buggy then. Now it is flawless. Good job RIM.
And amazing job to all the forum users who are clever enough to make this all happen.
philmair Feb 23, 2012 at 7:37 am
Great !
Many thanks for the clear, simple-to-follow instructions !!
arvind1983 Feb 23, 2012 at 8:04 am
Did anyone try Google maps?? GPS not able to find the location!
bbmtna Feb 23, 2012 at 1:29 pm
My first try in my house connected via wifi gave the same results, however I just tested it while en route to meet with a client and it worked wonderfully. While on the road I obviously has the playbook bridge to my phone.
Hope it works for you.
migale Feb 23, 2012 at 8:59 am
Thanks a lot for this post Adam!
A thanks a lot at all people who developed this bar files!
fgoyti Feb 23, 2012 at 9:03 am
I installed Google maps and Twitter. Both work amazing! Thank you
07thking Feb 26, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Is street view working for you?
dami0nx Feb 23, 2012 at 9:25 am
So from my understanding you still need the launcher app, they won't just appear on the main page?
tsquare2 Feb 23, 2012 at 9:55 am
No u do not need a launcher app. All of mine appear side by side with my PB apps on the main page.
tropenman Feb 23, 2012 at 10:01 am
i run parallels XP on my MAC. But can't get the DDPB installer running. Tried all versions, but it just won't install. i installed correctly the java app.
Anyone else having the same problem ????
HELP !!!!
JREwing Feb 23, 2012 at 10:01 am
I installed the Kindle app. Works great.
advil_yum Feb 23, 2012 at 11:04 am
looking through this list of apps and I'm not seeing what the big deal is about Android Apps. Yeah, there are a half dozen which would be nice to have, but nothing make or break like everyone is on about. The Playbook is nice and getting better all the time. I guess this is just an added bonus.
Is there a list that says what out of all these are must-haves? Being in Canada, some are useless anyway.
omgzombiess Feb 23, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Why are there SO many hoops needed to jump through to get a couple of apps that have been out FOREVER and available on MANY other tablets. I'm not unintelligent when it comes to computers and what not... BUT COME ON!! I just want to download a few apps that I can use on my Playbook. I'm sure I'll get scolded for speaking ill of the BB Playbook but before I bought this thing I did my research. Sadly... I skipped over the apps department. Having known what I know now... I would have went ahead, spent a little more $$ and bought the iPad2. I would NOT be having these sorts of issues with it. I WOULD return my Playbook but having ordered it through Blackberry.com, they are extremely strict on their return policy. You open it. It's yours. FOREVER. How am I suppose to know I'll like/dislike something without trying it out?? Whatever.
Anyone interested in purchasing a Playbook?? Lol.
bcuffy Feb 23, 2012 at 4:12 pm
We Need Native Notes app and Todo app on playbook, so that we can use Groovy notes etc to sync with it. My playbook must mimic my phone with basic native apps. I am loving my Playbook 64gb, make me love it more.
sexyboy31 Feb 23, 2012 at 5:54 pm
This use to work for me on the old o's before the update now sideloading won't work. Do I need to reboot or something
yaletownboy Feb 24, 2012 at 12:13 am
I am still confused as a PB newbie.
I have upgraded to OS 2 (the regular 'normal' software update). Prior to the Feb 21st update, everyone was talking about the "DEVELOPER'S OS2".
1. Do I still have to "Root"/Jailbreak my PB in order to run Android Apps?
2. Do I still need to download the 'developer's OS' to do this?
Why can't Crackberry just wipe out the old threads so as not confuse those who are new to the Android issue? I've been following since December but hadn't really paid much attention to the Android issue as I thought BB would just either create a dual boot option or just have a work around to allow Android on PB without messing with the system. More and more, I am understanding why people are laughing at RIM for stringing users around. They've gotta stop doing this and just address things straight and simple. You'll win consumers right off the bat.
Duc-Tri Feb 26, 2012 at 10:08 am
LOoking for .bar file?
LOLOL
http://store.playbookapps.info/
100% trusted
Bulldog2012 May 15, 2012 at 10:36 pm
David Cecil
Bulldog2012 May 15, 2012 at 10:42 pm
I have found that these instruction are perfect and work very well. Some of the links to .bar files are broken specifically at "mediafire" but the ones I have gotten all worked really fine. One comment is that when you use the DDPB installer the "IP address" of the Playbook is the one you use use not the one you see in the "development mode" field. Took me a while to figure that out. Congrats CRACKBERRY wizards. Da Bulldog, David Cecil
flint.govender Jul 3, 2012 at 8:31 am
please can somebody help :(
i have downloaded java and ddpb
i have installed both on windows 7
but i still get an error(java)
could somebody please be so kind as to write me a step - by - step instruction guide(playbook for dummies)
i have tried and tried and failed.
dev mode is on
i know the password
i know the ip address
i have/know all that i need..........but still no joy ..........
Thanks
Flint