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Google moving in on the 7-Inch tablet space with the Nexus 7

Nexus 7 Tablet
By Bla1ze on 27 Jun 2012 09:00 pm EDT
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It's been rumored for quite some time now but finally Google has taken the covers off of their Nexus 7 tablet at Google I/O 2012. Android OEM's have been making 7-Inch Android tablets long since before Android supported a tablet based UI but this one is different for a few reasons.

Not only does it carry the "Nexus" branding but Google has also made it the first device to launch with Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, the latest and greatest OS from Google. It's built by ASUS who has credible history in the tablet market and it certainly has the specs and price points to win some folks over but it also seems to stagger in a few areas as well, depending on how you want to look at the situation.

  • Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
  • 1280x800 IPS display
  • 1.3MP Front Facing Camera
  • NVIDIA Tegra 3 T30L quad-core processor at 1.2 GHz
  • 4325 mAh battery for 8 hours of movie playback time, 10 hours of reading and web browsing, 50 hours of audio playback.
  • WiFi b/g/n
  • WiFi Direct
  • NFC (Android Beam)
  • Bluetooth
  • GPS
  • 1GB RAM
  • 8GB/16GB ROM
  • Dimensions: 198.5x120x10.45mm
  • Weight: 340 grams

An "iPad killer" it is not. However, there isn't really any denying the fact that it will be chasing down the Kindle Fire, BlackBerry PlayBook and Nook tablets to choke off some sales. Google clearly has an ecosystem strategy here meaning, they've gone ahead and put the focus on all that Google offers.

Apps, Movies, Music, Books and now even Magazines are at the forefront of the Nexus 7. They've wrapped it all up in a cost-effective package with the 8GB version coming in at $199 and the 16GB coming in at $250 plus, $25 to spend on Google's Play Store for apps and a free copy of Transformers: Dark Of The Moon.

All that said though, it's still Android at the core. If you were never really into Android before, there doesn't seem to be any over compelling reasons to jump to that ship right now. Especially for PlayBook owners who enjoy BlackBerry Bridge, Remote Control and the PlayBooks fabulous multi-tasking capabilities. Plus, stopping at 16GB on a device meant for consuming content? I'm sure that was a cost saving measure but still, seems rather silly. What do you all think? Anyone been following the rumors previously and now ready to go all in on the Nexus 7? Sound off.

Learn more about the Nexus 7 at Android Central

136 comments

ryanlrobinson

I do want one. But it is more a matter of technolust than any actual useful reason. I'm not sure what I would use it for, since most of what I want a tablet for is better on a PlayBook. But I would like to play with it to say that I had one. Kinda like how I still want a TouchPad just because it is a piece of tech history.

masqueofhastur

Netflix in bed is the main thing I can think of that gives the Nexus 7 an advantage over the PlayBook. Not enough to justify buying it on top of the PB, but as an advantage, it is there.

KeiFeR123

I would also add Skype and Native TuneIn radio apps to the list :)

masqueofhastur

TuneIn is definitely niche because the PlayBook has Slacker. Like if the PB had one video streaming service supported then the lack of Netflix wouldn't be as big of a deal. Same with Cross-platform video chat, so I agree with Skype.

coolaide

wish we had that tegra3 proc. this gonna grab a lot off the people who wanted a ipad but thought it cost to much. I no with splashtop and tegra three you get game overlays the let you play full windows game on your pc and stream in almost real time to your tablet.

masqueofhastur

The Tegra 3 is pretty shitty. It's better than the Tegra 2, but not by much. There's a reason it's in the Nexus 7 at $200, no other chip manufacturer could stand to sell their quad core at such a low price, but because of the performance nVidia has to sell it at dual core prices, because it pretty much offers only dual core performance. It looks great on paper, but in practice, it won't make a difference (except games, there I actually expect the Tegra 3 to be pretty good, but then so was the Tegra 2).

jackpots

You have just demonstrated its positive attributes and why that's a win-win for Google and the consumer: 4 cores offer 1) better power consumption, 2) better high-end performance due to higher clocks due to thinner die, and 3) lower cost due to poor market uptake (not specs). So Google passes on the savings to sell content, gains marketshare and get user behavior for free, which is the treasuretrove and the part I particularly detest.)

masqueofhastur

1) 4 cores doesn't offer better power consumption, a smaller manufacturing process does.
2) Not on the Tegra 3.
3) Actually, the Tegra 3 is the most popular quad-core processor at the moment, but the for type of person who cares about specs, a lot of them know the Tegra 3 isn't that good.

Joe257

Hey, for the average consumer, a quad-core processor sounds really good :) Sounds better than dual core! I get your argument, and I have heard similar claims about its performance, but nothing concrete.

masqueofhastur

http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/01/first-nvidia-tegra-3-benchmarks-score-t...

It is better than the Tegra 2, but just barely, and doesn't offer a compelling competetive advantage over any dual core offering. Better benchmarks is nice, but it doesn't let you run anything that the Tegra 2 doesn't.

That's a good thing for people who bought the original Transformer - it's not the fastest by any means, but it still keeps up and will for 2 years from purchase.

And I agree quad-core sounds really good, perfect for being a Kindle Fire killer and selling well, just it's not so bad that PlayBook users don't have it.

canuck_67

16GB is going to kill them - nothing to fill that with consumable media.

Good looking unit though.

edyb

Memory space kinda low, I agree. But the specs, not sure how to compare to PlayBook which is now over a year old. PlayBook has 2 cameras and comes in bigger memory sizes. Screen resolution not as high on Playbook but Nexus also not a huge difference up either.

Still, only compelling reason to go to Nexus is the android app market which is huge, and Google which owns YouTube will probably offer lots of video content and their ebook library. The offline map options are a nice touch.

Perhaps some competition for PlayBook but I disagree with attitude that iPad is untouchable. I believe these new offerings from Google and Microsoft will begin to eat away at Apple's lead. Just a matter of time.

masqueofhastur

Yep, the specs aren't a huge difference, there it's 6 of one, half dozen of the other between the Nexus 7 and PlayBook, but as far as apps go, the Nexus 7 has a ridiculous lead over the PlayBook, and at 7", Android apps designed for phones with 4.5" inch screens don't really need to be modified, they'll scale up to 7" just fine (except for certain apps like Dead Space, that probably has a sweet spot at 5").

Thunderbuck

The Nexus does have better screen resolution (not massively better, but likely noticeable), and a more up-to-date processor and GPU.

What it doesn't have is stereo speakers, a rear camera, and not as much storage capacity.

Obviously, lots of stuff in "Google Play" that isn't in App World... probably the most glaring difference.

masqueofhastur

And of course the irony is the extra storage space only really benefits the PlayBook for videos and music, while the Nexus 7 could actually make use of it for the far larger app catalog. If it were reversed, I wouldn't see it as that big of a deal, even if the PB only has 8GB, I don't think I've filled even that much up yet.

charlieparker

My first thought:
7 inch form factor means optimized android apps that can be converted to work on the PB. Example the new Google + tablet app. Especially with there being less limitations with OS 2.1.

Just my 2 cents

iamthiagosilva

But the problem is that the Android emulator on the Playbook only runs android apps for 2.3 or lower, so, there isn't a lot of applications made for Android 2.3 that are optimized for tablets.

soloworldelec

Things do change over time. Updates will be coming soon...

The_Adventist

Yup, because there's our motto.

Syrous44

+100

As much as I love the playbook I am getting sick off all these incremental updates to have it do what most tablets do out of the box. For once I would love Rim to release a product with full functioning os not these half assed stop measures. That's another reason why google and apple kicking Rims ass they get shit done the first time around (most of the time).

Joe257

Actually, I LOVE the incremental updates as RIM is continuing to refine the device. You may argue it should already have done this and that, but no OS is perfect and each could use some tweaking now and then. Keep giving us updates, RIM!

Syrous44

I am not talking about the small updates I meant the big ones like native email or calander. I like the way any manufactuer keeps refining their product. But their is refinment and realeasing a product that is fairly complete out of the box. Not a glorified web browser and meadia player that the playbook was when it first came out. Don't get me wrong sick hardware and OS but a fairly incomplete OS at the start only now with 2.0 is it truly great.

buchcrai

I have to agree with you. I have a playbook running 2.0 and truly i'm not that happy with it. And with BB10 coming out and a PB2 i can't see this one being supported any more. I bought it knowing i was paying to be a beta tester, but there was what? one update to get the thing up to spec's with the others on the market, then what? nothing... Still with the most recent OS update the thing is buggy and in beta testing as i would say. But that seems to be true with all of RIM's products of late..

DaedalusIcarusHelios

The original PB will certainly be supported, as it is getting BB10. PlayBook 2, whether it happens or not - I'm thinking it won't be until AFTER BB10 phones, won't matter as far as support goes. The PB has decent specs even now, and performs quite well. I'm not concerned with support ending at all, although I do understand frustrations as the PB has been a testing platform for the move to BB10, and it still lacks the major content streaming apps and such that many have been clamoring for.

masqueofhastur

If they can make the Android experience seamless with the PB, then yes, that could be cool. On 2.0 though, that wouldn't excite me beyond the potential of a UI optimised for 7" and the program still being released as a PB native app.

gsansone

With kindle Fire and Nook running Android, what is the content offering that will make the Nexus better than media rich devices like the aforementioned? Amazon and BN have an ecosystem to tap. There aren't a lot of great apps optimized for Droid tabs, the book catalogs I would guess are better at amazon and bn, and movie/tv content is not out of reach on the color readers tabs.

And if this is geared towards content consumption, what do we do with our 10.1" tablets now that Google is zeroing in on the 7inch tab?

Lots of devices to choose from, not a deep media spring to justify it.

masqueofhastur

Neither the Kindle Fire nor the Nook Tablet have access to Google Play (the Kobo Vox does, but it isn't really competing). That's a huge content offering. Apps count way more than videos and music do.

koool1

I don't see much here to get excited about. It's OK but the lack of an SD slot and small memory make it kind of limited. I picked up a Xoom on clearance as a second tablet to my Playbook, it's not bad though I use and take the Playbook more often due to the size.

If RIM can re-launch Playbook with upgraded hardware (as rumored), BB10 with BBM and the same price point I can see it competing with Nexus just fine.

masqueofhastur

Oh for sure, but it'll also quite likely still only be playing 2nd fiddle to the Nexus 7. Even the Galaxy Tab 7 2.0 is nothing compared to either though, so it'll be a while before anyone else puts out even another Android tablet that competes with the Nexus 7.

Camfella

And if your aunt had balls, she'd be your uncle!

donan71

I agree when i was reading a Nexus 7 article my first thoughts were "is there a sd card slot" and "how much ram". I would love to see what a playbook with BB10 running can do with those specs!!!

Joe257

RIM needs to launch their 2nd generation PlayBook... like NOW! It will bridge the gap and they'll have some sales while people wait for BB10.

smartphones_dont_make_jackasses_smart

developers! developers! developers!
developers! developers! developers!
developers! developers! developers!

Kandoo-BB

If Rim releases a Playbook with upgraded hardware and bb10 it will not be competing with Nexus7 because the Playbooks price will most likely go back up...probably all the way up!

Chadissocool

There are many more 7 inch tablets now than there were a year ago. They would have to compete with what is on the market, which would send its price quite low. Not to mention they probably (hopefully) learned something from the original playbook .

iamthiagosilva

I think it's a good competitor for the PlayBook.
And some of the features of the PlayBook that were cited, like Bridge and the remote control, only works if you also have a BlackBerry.

The fact that only 8 or 16GB with no possibility of expansion is a negative facto, but this tablet will have access to all content that you keep the cloud (Play Music, among others), so I don't think it's that bad.

And, well, I have a 16GB PlayBook, and still have not used all 16GB, even with 4GB of music and a lot of documents, pics and videos from recorded at 1080p with the PlayBook.

boldkeyboardholic

It will be no problem when you have access to free wifi, on the go only with data plan it is not ideal as at least here 5gb are the maximum to purchase/xx euro per month

axllebeer

It does seem like a pretty cool tab for the most part. However, I can't imagine this replacing my PlayBook by any means. So therefore I have no justifiable reason for getting it. The PlayBook multitasking the way it does is a big selling point for me and I'm sure many others which is much more user friendly than anything I've seen out of Android ever. I have the feeling when this is released that the speed difference between it and the PlayBook will be about on par with each other. And with the processor that's in this thing, the PlayBook will likely show better battery life in real life usage.

masqueofhastur

Yeah, if I didn't already have a PB, I might buy the Nexus 7 instead of the PlayBook, depending on how the reviews go, but since I already have a PlayBook and enjoy it, the Nexus 7 doesn't offer me a compelling reason to spend CA$209+tax+shipping to get the Nexus 7.

cdelcampo216

I'm already putting my money aside to go get one. Even with all the great things that my PlayBook can do, I still think this will be a great second tablet to have. I think it's great. Also, it's still less than an iPad.

CDC

JNM

I am very tempted to order one. The storage space should not be an issue at all. I owned an Android tablet that I used for work and never used more than maybe 3GB of its storage. There is no need to store media on the device. Files for work barely take up any space...even after 8 months. I am pretty sure I will order one. It is price properly and looks like it offers the performance to make it worthwhile. This is likely the tablet to beat until the Playbook offers mobile data.

masqueofhastur

Even then, who doesn't just use their phone as a hotspot for their tablet?

DWPGQ

As a frequent flyer, watching movies on the Playbook has been fantastic............16 GB does not go very far with HD movies......even at 64GB it fills up quickly.
The "cloud" is useless when flying, and when you need quick access to important documents, photos, etc., its nice to know you have the capacity to store it.
The Nexus 7 appears to be more of a toy than a work tool.
Just my 2 cents.

Rangrfan

why do you need hd movies on a 7 inch screen???? that's about as dumb as people buying 1080p 20 inch televisions, it's pointless.

masqueofhastur

You obviously weren't paying attention to where he said "as a frequent flyer"

mssca

Ya, but Samsung makes the Nexus!

masqueofhastur

No, Samsung makes the Surface. Unless you're talking about phones, but that's not relevant to this.

DuexNoir

The 16 GB storage is a dealbreaker for many, I think, especially if the tablet is aiming at those who are major apps consumers. As for pricing, Playbook is still a better deal given that at the same price for a 16 GB Nexus, you can get a 32 GB Playbook.

And I, personally, avoid Asus products. I find it isn't as high-quality as some other competitors out there for the same price. But that's my own preference and view.

masqueofhastur

On the other hand, there aren't enough apps on the PB to be able to fill up 16GB, much less 32GB. The only reason you'd need the space is if you're loading a large music collection or movies onto the device. It's something of a necessity with the PB, as there's no Netflix support, but with Netflix, the Nexus 7 can do fine there even with 8GB.

It might be a dealbreaker, but it won't be a huge one, and only for a minority.

lnichols

Yes because Netflix works on a 12+ hour flight to Japan right?! Sorry but there are times that Netflix or any online services aren't available and storage is needed.

Camfella

Some people are literally searching the clouds for reasons to criticize. Come back down to earth dude!

masqueofhastur

True, but most people who will be making a 12 hour flight have a laptop and can watch movies on that. It's unlikely that anyone would buy a tablet as their first electronic device.

It is a useful advantage for the PlayBook, but is definitely more niche.

DuexNoir

The use of a tablet is not only for apps, music, movies and games.

My works files can fill up a 16 GB in any one day. It was the reason I didn't get a 16 GB PB in the first place.

Camfella

I think 16 gb. Will be enough for most people if we use 16gb. iPad sales as a reference.

masqueofhastur

Yeah, 8GB is definitely on the small size, I'm limited in what I can put on my Lumia 710, and my iPod touch 8GB I regularly have to delete apps to make room for more. Incidentally, I never had much trouble with my N95 8GB, because the useful app selection was way lower so it really was only music and pictures.

donan71

I have heard the same thing about ASUS from previous Future shop sales people.

Rangrfan

Sure you can go ahead and get a 32gb playbook with 2 year old technology inside it. Damn, I think I may go spend 200 bux on a Motorola startac...

TechRageMike

We will also receive a free 25GB DropBox account with the purchase of the Nexus7 where you can store music, movies, documents, and anything else our hearts desire. Plus there will be access to a free 5GB Google Drive account. So with all this cloud storage for FREE there will never be a shortage of space unless you install a hundred or more apps and even then you can still have some room left. I think this is the way most suppliers are going to go, keep the storage space down to cut back on cost and use cloud storage for all the media and documents which take up the bulk of space anyway. Pretty ingenious if you ask me!

morganplus8

Playbook II will be out shortly and then there is BB 10 just around the corner, we would be crazy not to wait for the specs on this machine. I'll hold out for the PB II and BB 10 thank you!!!

masqueofhastur

PB2 isn't around the corner, PB4G is, but that's just a slightly upgraded PB with a cellular radio.

PB2 will, if it comes out at all, be released after all the BB10 phones are.

anthogag

A better spec'd playbook will come out soon/eventually.

The placement of the camera on the nexus is a bad idea.

Does the nexus have two microphones and two speakers?

BB10 will be on the tablet and phone...that's cool!

masqueofhastur

JellyBean will also be on a tablet and a phone. I don't think the camera placement is unfortunate at all. It's a natural way to hold a tablet of that size, and there's certainly nothing wrong with doing video calling in portrait mode over landscape mode.

BBNation

ECOSYSTEM ECOSYSTEM ECOSYSTEM
ECOSYSTEM ECOSYSTEM ECOSYSTEM
ECOSYSTEM ECOSYSTEM ECOSYSTEM
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ECOSYSTEM ECOSYSTEM ECOSYSTEM

IT'S ALL ABOUT ECOSYSTEM, The playbook offers the best OS and specs but no apps. Google does not have to worry about apps so that cuts 70% of hurdles.
iphone is not the best spec phone but it's all about apps.

GameBoi

Someone who gets it! The iPad, this and Kindle Fire has apps and it's own store. I'm sorry, but who would buy a PB with every little apps and with all the rumors about RIM, I don't see anyone but crackheads getting one. All the stores in my town stop selling PB a while ago, matter of fact, this side of the state has. So at the end, it doesn't matter how good BB10 or how high the specs are on the PB 2, without an ecosystem, the masses aren't gonna buy. Plus if it's over the $199 mark, RIM can forget it! I even feel sorry for Samsung and Moto, how are they gonna sell tablets? And Microsoft too. anything over the $199 mark is dead and anyone who would spend more will get an ipad. People are not gonna buy a tablet for BBM.

masqueofhastur

It depends on what you want, the PB still has some advantages, the biggest being security. If you're concerned about losing the tablet while out and having sensitive info on it, I trust the PB security far more than I do any other tablet. Incidentally that isn't a huge concern for me, but it might be for others and it's still worth bringing up to people doing comparison shopping.

Microsoft will be fine, the ultrabook-tablet hybrid space at around $1000 is going to do very well starting next year. As a result, their $500 Windows RT surface tablet will also look better than any 10" Android tablet.

7", $200 range, it's the Nexus 7 and PlayBook, no question (highly likely that Nexus 7 becomes the #1 choice and PlayBook becomes the #2 choice).

10", $500 range, iPad will still be #1 by a large margin, and Windows RT Surface will be #2, with maybe an Asus Transformer picking up 3rd place.

Notebook replacement, $1000 range, that's all Microsoft, nobody else has a chance there, and Apple isn't yet ready with Mountain Lion to release a MBA tablet, and with MS having already hit that market, they might not want to until they've got everything right.

The $1000 notebook replacement tablets will have a trickle down effect for the Windows RT tablets, and they'll grow in viability and appeal as time goes by.

What'll be interesting to see is if Microsoft later decides they want to compete in the 7" tablet market against Google and RIM.

Camfella

I don't see the Playbook as #2 in the 7in range, the Kindle Fire for one will still sell more than PB.

masqueofhastur

Not once the Nexus 7 is out. Nobody with a working brain would buy the Kindle Fire over the Nexus 7.

If Amazon releases a Kindle Fire 2 that competes with the Nexus 7, then yes, PlayBook would go back to #3, but for the time being it's the #2 choice. If you don't like the Nexus 7, you definitely won't like the Kindle Fire, so your next option becomes the PlayBook.

Rootbrian

1. Calling people crackheads shows that you happen to judge people who cannot afford things.

2. Buying a tablet for one feature? I wouldn't. I bought the playbook not just for the bridge, but everything else it had to offer, including web surfing, video/photos and all else it is capable of doing.

Rangrfan

Wow every single tablet on the market can do those things too.

D Mac

The price, processor, and screen make it Very attractive.

I will be buying one as my 3rd tablet.

Once I get it, all 3 of my tablets combined (Playbook, Touchpad, Nexus 7) will still be cheaper than 1 iPad.

masqueofhastur

I guess I can't argue with that logic, but why do you need 3 tablets? Or is it just gadget collecting?

D Mac

Touchpad is used only when I want to browse on a larger screen. This has mainly become Mrs's Mac's surfing tool. I rarely use it.

Playbook is for, in order: Ebooks, News Feeds, Surfing, light gaming. (It is the only one that ever leaves the house with me)

Everything the Playbook does (for me) will be done better by the Nexus 7 (better screen for ebooks, better apps for news feeds, better processor for surfing)

So in a couple weeks my Playbook will just be put aside to await BB10.

...but ya I suppose it is also partially just gadget collecting (but 3 tablets is pretty low since I do own 25+ phones)

masqueofhastur

Yeah, I agree the Nexus 7 is an incremental upgrade and does do everything better. I'd be more inclined to get it as a replacement if I had more money and had someone else to give the PB to.

veeru789

I think the ECOSYSTEM will be fine on BB10. Just waiting for it. Will definitely upgrade my 9900 and playbook. Google and MS ain't that interesting to me.
BB10 ROCKS! !!

GameBoi

BB10 rocks, but it's not even out yet. You BB fans are so delusional. Keep waiting...

masqueofhastur

PBOS2 rocks, so how can BB10 not rock? From an OS standpoint, ICS, and by extension JB are good, no question about that, but PBOS2 and BB10 are better. For my use, the app selection on the PB is fine, and the user experience is better, so I'll hapilly continue enjoying my PlayBook while other people go for the Nexus 7.

I don't think RIM will take the world by storm with BB10, but they'll establish a good foothold, and provide a good product with continued support for those who really like it.

Camfella

Key Lime Pie is better than BB10!

masqueofhastur

Actually, I'll take blackberry wine over any fruit pie.

masqueofhastur

It's definitely a Kindle Fire killer, and that's what it's intended to be. Amazon was on their way stealing the Android Tablet market from Google, and Google had to make sure that doesn't happen. I wouldn't be surprised if they're taking a loss on the Nexus 7 the way Amazon is with the Kindle Fire.

At this point I have absolutely zero interest in the Kindle Fire or Nook Tablet, and wouldn't recommend them to anyone. The Nexus 7 clearly spanks them in every area. Obviously as I've got a PlayBook I won't be getting it for myself, but my girlfriend found the PB to be too heavy, so the Nexus 7's 340g vs the PlayBook's 425g might be just right.

I think in a way this is good for the PlayBook - the Nexus 7 is so far ahead of all other Android tablets at this price range, that really the choice boils down to Nexus 7 or PlayBook. Given the specs and better app selection, I'd probably lean towards recommending the Nexus 7 over the PlayBook, but if RIM axes the 16GB model and drops the 32GB and 64GB models by $50, then you're looking at Nexus 7 8GB vs PlayBook 32GB for $200 and Nexus 7 16GB vs PlayBook 64GB for $250, that tilts things well back in the PlayBook's favour given the Nexus 7 lacks expandable storage.

Similarly, an upgraded PB with Quad-Core and a 1280x720 screen at current prices would be a significant competitor too, but it makes no sense for RIM to do that until after BB10 has launched.

Rootbrian

I think if the next playbook had a faster processer and 2GB of RAM, it wouldn't really need to be quad core, dual would be enough, it already is enough. :)

Say, 2.1 or 2.4 GHz is much faster than 1.2 GHz.

Camfella

"Say, 2.1 or 2.4 GHz is much faster than 1.2 GHz"???????

masqueofhastur

I'd definitely take 2GB of RAM over 2 extra processors (I said the same thing about the NAM GS3), and it almost seems necessary given what RIM is doing with multitasking. It's also not that hard to just keep a lead on the competition with RAM size, it'll bring in a slight cost premium, but people would be willing to pay for it.

gloostar

Nexus 7 already beat PB...Sad but true.

Rootbrian

Wrong, it hasn't even been put in stores yet, just wait and see. Watch as amazon, B&N and apple panic to see people save money. Competition man.

kupfernigk

It is pretty obvious why RIM withdrew the 16Gbyte Playbook, wouldn't you think?

Google will sell a lot of these. The vertical markets (e.g. for cloud accounting software) will go mad for a device that can run small business accounts, file on line and accept payment with contactless cards. And the phone companies will shift a lot of them to people with older Android phones in the middle of contracts. I like my PB, I will stay with it, but just those two markets will enable the Nexus 7 to outsell it.

I am afraid that Google has just done an end run around BB 10; the RIM ecosystem is now being comprehensively outgunned at the top end before any product other than the PB has even been released.

Rangrfan

WHAT???? I just ordered one and the pre orders from all accounts are already above what playbook has sold.... god stop being stupid and start being factual

bldshd

16GB top memory? That's pretty sh*tty.. Anyway I'm sure a lot of android heads will be jumping on this.. But for me I'm stickin to my BlackBerry PlayBook.. I'm kinda also suprised they chose asus to make the nexus tab..
#TeamBlackBerry

kupfernigk

Asus make the Transformers, which are about the only 10 inch tablets that really are better than the iPad in any significant way, and are having trouble with the PadPhone concept because the carriers hate the idea of giving the customer something for nothing. I am sure that they have given Google a very favorable deal as it gives them additional credibility and leverage.

masqueofhastur

More likely Google is willing to sell them at a loss to make sure Amazon doesn't sell more Kindle Fire's.

Superfly_FR

The more 7" tablets, the more exposure for Playbook : stores will start to make 7" tablets corners.
Competition is NOT a danger, it's something that can also PROMOTE.
PlayBook was on its own with a "nahh: too small screen against my xxxx" objection.
Now it can compare "form factor excluded".
VERY good news. Ggl and others are just validating the pertinence of 7" devices ... two years after.

mbilloo

Great point!! i agree 100%

donan71

Never thought of it that way but i do agree.

Blackberry_boffin

Stopping @ 16G is has alienated heavy gamers.
A few HD games easily fill that up.

kupfernigk

This is an Asus built tablet. Asus make the Transformer Prime. Are heavy gamers going to want a 7 inch tablet? No, they will buy an iPad 3 with its faster graphics, or possibly a Transformer Prime.

In other news, ricers don't buy Fiat 500s, but Fiat sell an awful lot of them.

billbsb

Wow! I think the Nexus 7 + Android 4.1 are the biggest threat to RIM's comeback so far! Some people will stick with RIM no matter what but now, all those people that were suppose to join Team BlackBerry, have another great option!

The Nexus 7 hardware is sweet but also a natural evolution. The Playbook was released on April 2011 which is "ancient" so Google didn't break trough on this. Even anything regarding but what really matters it's the OS it runs on! For what I've seen, Android 4.1 on a Nexus One, it runs super fast. But I personally hate Android's usability no matter how fast it is. If RIM pulls out BB10 as awesome as they say, for phones and tablets, they'll still be on the game. I believe they can.

People want to be connected. Always! So we carry in our backs a long term contract with a cellphone+data provider and in our pockets a (sim-locked) smart phone. And I would hate to sign for another data plan contract to get an online tablet. That's why the 4G Playbook is redundant! There's already BB Bridge and Android's Wireless Hotspot feature! RIM should start selling special bundles of BB10 Phones + Playbook! If you are always connected, not so much need for big storage locally, that's why having just 8/16GB could work but it's quite risky.

"Content is king!" and this won't change. (Un)Fortunately, all companies have difficulties providing great content - movies, music, books, tv shows - outside North America. The way I see it: the first one to break this barrier and provide content to BRICS will win big! WikiPedia: "As of 2012, the five BRICS countries represent almost 3 billion people, with a combined nominal GDP of US$13.7 trillion,[1] and an estimated US$4 trillion in combined foreign reserves".

TL;DR: Playbook has finally met it's best rival yet! RIM got step up its game big!
Cheers!

gingoog66

We are all blackberry fan and thats okay, but the problem is that the consumers gona buy it because have big app market and they trust to goolge and not to blackberry. Blackberry for them is to high end and they think only for managers. ..rim before sleep a lot for marketing etc.
I hope we can make it for the BB10 .... But maybe without goolgle app market i think blackberry...have a hard life....good luck blackberry im your fan

Bluenoser63

Google made a mistake on the storage. 8GB is usless for a mobile tablet, even 16GB is on the small side. If you are traveling and want to watch movies, you need lots of space to store these movies. A HD movie in terms of storage is about 2GB. So you will have space for about 3 movies and nothing else. The cloud doesn't exist where you really need it, planes,trains and automobiles. I travel a lot and have my playbook loaded up with movies so I can watch them on the plane. On a long trip, I need about 4 or 5 movies. A 8GB tablet wouldn't work. Friend of mine is traveling with his kids in the car, the playbook will be loaded with kids shows and movies. A 8GB tablet wouldn't work. A friend has a cottage on an island, he loads videos on the playbook and can play them on the island. They have power via solar, but not internet, so a 8GB device wouldn't work.
Not having dual camera is another shortcoming. If you have ever video chatted with the playbook, you will know that having the ability to use both cameras make the video chat really functional. Google just hopes you use their cloud, but the cloud is not always there for you.
But people will buy this and find that also have to buy something else to fill the gap, not me, the playbook is the perfect tablet.

Darlaten

Hard to video chat when there is no cross-platform app to video chat with. So for some people, the Playbook's cameras are entirely superflourous. While there are apps that attempt to offer workarounds to this - they are poor substitutes for the real thing. Skype is what was needed to make the Playbook truly useful for video chatting.

Camfella

When you talk about traveling with kids, I assume each kid has a PB, therefore you could load different movies on each PB. Nowadays don't trains have wifi, and cars?

Bluenoser63

The Playbook has enough space for multiple movies, the Nexus with 8GB doesn't. The kids watch from one Playbook with splitter headphones. Some trains have Wi-Fi, but most limit bandwidth and prevent video streaming. I don't know of a single car that has Wi-Fi.

doejoe007

No back camera? Seriously?

As much as I don't like PB, it's back camera is awesome and would never get a tablet without one.

If only PB could run jelly bean... :(

mbilloo

Good looks, but then PB is elegance too. I would take it rather as an upgrade over kindle fire, and Bla1ze, as for it being android, sure android has something thts y RIM is going after it and integrating Android Apps in PB.

Hope BB10 comes out quick and then we hopefully wont need this one ^_^

lnichols

This is more Googles attempt to kill the Fire than the Playbook. The Fire forks Android and strips out stuff that Google gets revenue from on the OS, including the app market. Google is going to be fighting Forks like Samsung is starting do, Amazon has done. Hopefully they have created a Hydra that keeps growing heads and takes up there time.

wanderguzman

some guys are just blinded, its not a 500 dollars tablet its a 199-250 tablet that is superior for most of the customer in every aspect:
1-)quad core cpu.
2-)real hd display.
3-)the amazing google content.

for most of the users having a rear camera on a tablet is useless, since you have an point and shoot,and smartphone that usually have better camera than the tablet, the only drawback is the lack of microsd slot, but with jelly bean you just can buy an usb adapter an connect a mass storage usb or external hard drive. Even right now the Playbook is struggling in the market, with the nexus tablet it will just get worst.

Bluenoser63

Why in the world would you want to carry around an external storage device with a mobile tablet. It should have good storage space to begin with. The Nexus is lacking.

Camfella

The external storage solves the problems you mentioned in your earlier post I.e. traveling, cottage etc.

Bluenoser63

But now I have to carry around a couple of devices when having the right storage space is the better choice.

Camfella

Like I said earlier, for most people, I believe 16gb. will be adequate. The 16gb. Model is the iPad's best seller. I agree that the more storage the better, but if the choice was between a 16gb. Nexus and 32gb. PB. I wouldn't think twice about grabbing the Nexus. YMMV.

Bluenoser63

Enjoy carrying around extra storage.

ckl_88

Ha. At least he has the option of hooking up extra storage...

I'm not trying to pick on you or the Playbook, because I have one and know all the faults with it. But really, the Playbook should have USB OTG functionality enabled. I believe I read somewhere that the software libraries to make it functional is already in the QNX OS, RIM just hasn't enabled it.

This is what differentiates any Android tablet from Playbook. If there is a need for it, it will be added - like mouse functionality and USB OTG functionality. WIth Playbook, you get what RIM gives you and that's it (read: portrait email anyone?). RIM can't be like Apple because they are severely lacking in apps and general consumer interest.

wanderguzman

you are right but for some, hardware,os,and content wise the nexus will be more atractive to customer than the playbook, im not saying the playbook is bad or it sucks its the content and bad marketing that is killing the oportunity for the playbook to success.

rexrim

looks great..but i will stay with my playbook till bb10 out..i still trust u RIM!
and i still love the blackberry bridging and remote control..still awesome!

smartphones_dont_make_jackasses_smart

"Remember the Alamo", "Circle the Wagons", "and hide under a big Rock" -

RIM’s Quarterly Reckoning Nears; Here’s What to Look For:

http://blogs.wsj.com/canadarealtime/2012/06/28/rim%e2%80%99s-quarterly-r...

guerllamo7

Nice tablet. It seems some of the specs are pretty good. I find it interesting that they did not provide a rear facing/main camera to take pictures and video.

People are not just consumers of data. At least I have more videos and pictures of my kids than movies downloaded. Sure, I have a couple of movies but for me the camera is a big issue.

I love my Playbook but the 7" tablet space has a new competitor and it is not some little guy, it is Google. That alone will move some tablets, especially at that price point. However, I'm pretty sure I'm going to continue to talk to my buddies about tablets and they will sometimes pick the Playbook.

I'm a huge BlackBerry fan but I have no problem with Google (well, other than security but that can be mitigated with some software and a careful user). Microsoft and Apple are scum of the earth in my view. So, would not buy an iPad if it was selling for a dollar.

Mummy2

Bla1ze,
Congrats. Your post is another exquisite example of garbled English. Examples: "OEM's" when you mean "OEMs"; "long since before" when you seem to mean "long before"; "there doesn't seem to be any over compelling reasons" when you should have said "there don't seem to be" and "overly compelling reasons". But surely these are merely niggles, as is your apparent ignorance about the proper use of commas. What is most amazing is the number of marble-mouthed sentences you can pack into such a short report.

BruvvaPete

You're such a 'tard. Go crawl under a rock

dmroberts8

Dear Grammar Nazi,

Go away..

BruvvaPete

I'm waiting for the new iteration of the PB so I'll have two shiny, new toys when BB10 is released. Hey Mummy2. How do is my Engris, you bonehead!

Mummy2

playfayette,
Was your brain Bla1zen when you thought that one up and den posted it? Whaazup wit yous anyway?

erodz

This is real bad news for BB, this tablet has great specs for the price and BB is still holding the BB10.

4ron

Why wouldn't RIM emphasize its highly regarded " best security " feature in its new PlayBook ad? See today's Wall Street Journal.

ckl_88

Because there is no such thing.

When you have a device that:

1. Runs Adobe Flash
2. Allows you to connect to an unsecured WIFI hotspot.

You have a device that is really not that secure.

Also, unless I'm mistaken, the next update will have full device encryption. So that means the current stable 2.1 release saves content unencrypted.

ckl_88

Personally, with the Nexus 7, there are 3 things that blow the playbook out of the water.

1. Consumer grade VPN (inherent in all Android devices)
2. Native support for Teamviewer app or any other RDP like it (ie. logmein)
3. Choice of Opera, Firefox, Chrome, Dolphin, etc... browsers with bookmark sync.

I have teamviewer on my 3.7" Nexus One and I can say it is slick... even though the screen is small, I can still get things done with no lag.... just a matter of scrolling around. With a 7" screen, it will be even better... with hdmi out, mouse and keyboard, it will be perfect.

No need to bring the laptop anymore.

Bluenoser63

I'm using VPN and RDP client on my playbook to remote into our offices and I use the Blackberry Keyboard to do my work. And I can use it securely unlike other tablets. And my playbook browser works just great. So there goes your three things.

ckl_88

Really? Try OpenVPN or PPTP... You won't find these options supported. Playbook only supports Business class VPN's.

The RDP clients for playbook actually SUCK. They lag like crazy. The only thing that comes close is Splashtop but that requires you to blow holes in your firewall for the non-standard ports it uses.

Teamviewer doesn't require any firewall configuration at all. You just install a program on each computer you want to control and done. The performance is second only to Splashtop, you get the feeling that you are actually sitting in front of the computer you are controlling.

So yeah, unless you remote into an office WITH A DEDICATED VPN APPLIANCE that is supported by RIM, then your good. But for the rest of us who just want to VPN into our home network from a public wifi hotspot, PLAYBOOK FAILS MISERABLY.

Finally, I don't know why you said "there goes your three things" when you've only addressed two. Works just great doesn't mean jack... Android browsers works just great too! And they also provide bookmark management and auto-sync between all your devices (using the same browser).

Thanks for the reply though.

Bluenoser63

Guess I don't like playing with toys and want a business tool. Thanks for playing though.

Jonathank

LOOKS LIKE A BIG PHONE..... Stupid

dmroberts8

Well so does the Playbook for that matter. All of the devices now are just various size black slabs.

dmroberts8

Many consumers will see a tablet that has a lot of apps, looks like a smaller iPad, but is $300 less. They don't care about security or true multi-tasking.

Google likely put a good deal of thought behind the 8gb/16gb options, and they are going to sell millions of these things.

jd914

RIP Playbook...oh wait...it was DOA.

TechRageMike

We will also receive a free 25GB DropBox account with the purchase of the Nexus7 where you can store music, movies, documents, and anything else our hearts desire. Plus there will be access to a free 5GB Google Drive account. So with all this cloud storage for FREE there will never be a shortage of space unless you install a hundred or more apps and even then you can still have some room left. I think this is the way most suppliers are going to go, keep the storage space down to cut back on cost and use cloud storage for all the media and documents which take up the bulk of space anyway. Pretty ingenious if you ask me!