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Posted by anonymous i guess Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1458 days ago

Frankly stated, it is quite true that blackberry has becoming a boom for regular consumers. I am a college student myself and ever since I got my blackberry in early January, I have seen several more people having a blackberry as well. It is definitely becoming big in the consumer market. However, I really don't think having a touch screen will take away from the "iconic" QWERTY keys that blackberry has had since the beginning. I mean, it's not like you walk down the street with a palm treo in hand and someone's going to comment, "ooh a blackberry." Furthermore, an iphone's image should probably at this point be imprinted in everyone's brain so much that if they see a little black top with a silver curve bottom, it must be the iphone. A simple physical change can make a whole difference. All in all, I welcome a touchscreen!

 
 
Posted by TvTechGuru Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1458 days ago

I really have to agree with the article's #2 and #1 on why it would be bad if they made a Touchscreen BB.

If it doesn't do any better than iPhone, it's a disgrace and would tarnish RIM's image, not kill it, but put a dent in it.

Also, going off beat from the trademark/flagship design of a Blackberry is risking brand image. It could be seen as a desperate call to compete with Apple's iPhone.

If RIM could expand the BB in other ways than a touchscreen they can still compete with the iPhone. If they broaden their OS, design of the phone like they did with the Bold and features inside the phone.

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1457 days ago

You can debate all day long on the touch screen. I have said it before (including Steve Jobs), it's all about the software. I believe apple's software is one of the reasons why the iphone has been so popular. I am a blackberry user, but I have to admit Apple's software on the iphone is exiting to use.

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1458 days ago

A touch screen is fine with me if it has the same features and function as the keyboard models. I have to stay with VZ and so a Bold or Storm either one will work for me if the features stay the same as the Bold. I think that the addition of the touch screen will help keep BB able to compete with the younger and upcoming markets.

 
 
Posted by cap10mark Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1458 days ago

Wow...Plain and simple...touchscreen is not for me. Some people would die for one, bur after using a touch screen phone, I am far from impressed. To me, the Pearl Idea is revolutionary...I love it! Simple and comparable to using a mouse...why would you not want it? Anyway, just my opinion!

 
 
Posted by JGreg Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1458 days ago

I have been using (and loving) Blackberry devices and currently have the 8120. Recently I bought an iTouch and have been greatly impressed. The BB and the iTouch offer entirely different feature sets, software, etc.. If RIMM were to produce a device that merged the 2 feature sets it would leave all others in the dust!

 
 
Posted by jpnh23 Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1458 days ago

Take the same form factor as the bold and curve and make the screen touch. BB are very reliable devices and thats what makes them great. I'm a former treo user and do kinda miss the touch screen a little. The one thing i dont is having to soft/hard reset multiple times and daily and that is why i migrated to BB curve. THey are great annd work well and i think if rim could just add the same size touch screen it would work just as well for them.

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1458 days ago

What about battery life? Won't the driving of a touchscreen display force the BB to take a hit on battery life? They are very gentle on the battery as is and I wouldn't want to change that just to have a touchscreen. Their interface is very usable right now and I don't see the necessity to change...

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1458 days ago

Look guys these are one persons feelings and they arent shared by anyone but him i mean to say if it dosent beat the iphone its a failure thats all i needed to hear thats just moronic because verizon has a touch screen do you think there saying if it dosent beat the iphone were in trouble no way and second the bb software does need a huge revamp i mean they update it but it looks the same every time all we say is it functions better, come on people this comparison just lost me huge time.

 
 
Posted by crackberryhead Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1458 days ago

I will NEVER use a touchscreen BB device!!! It would remind me too much of an iphone, and I despise anything made by Crapple!!! I'll stick with the good ole reliabe QWERTY.

 
 
Posted by Promise of Unity Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1458 days ago

I don't know. Blackberry rather touchscreen or not is still an elite device. I believe that the touchscreen for some would be an added comfort. Most of us would be completely lost without them. Either way, I am a BB lifer.

 
 
Posted by GDJ Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1458 days ago

I would have to say that one of the main reasons we went with BB is the keyboard. Touch screens drive me and anyone who travels nuts. As long as the keyboard is there I am and always be a BB user....

I do agree that variety is a key reason brand loyalty exists in the marketplace.

 
 
Posted by shadysprings Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1458 days ago

The perfect phone is the Curve with a touchscreen. Just like Treo.
I want real keys on a real qwerty keypad. I dumped two iPhones already due to a bad touchscreen and reception.

If the Curve had a touchscreen along with the trackball, it would be by far the best user interface in existence!

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1458 days ago

I completely agree. The Curve with a touchscreen would be great..

 
 
Posted by D_Town Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1458 days ago

experience a RIM device with a slide out keyboard, than one with just a touchscreen. That way i could do both. There are those who really like "typing" with a touchscreen. I am not one of them. I want my RIM qwerty. Would love a slide qwerty those are most confortable to me.
I think the curve could use a touhscreen option. Same design and all, just with touchable screen icons maybe. But im not ready to jump on the iphone touchscreen RIM just yet. I just don't understand why some feel like RIM needs this. It seems to me that its base will remain, just as it has. Its already growing with the intro of the curve and pearl, as i suppose parents who could not afford to get the iphone went RIM for their young'uns.

 
 
Posted by Hairbear1954 Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1458 days ago

I am a big fan of my Curve and RIM, but would give an arm and a leg for a BB with both a touch screen and slider QWERTY keyboard. The flexibility of both would be great. When I am working it would be used as it is now, but I also use my Curve for a variety of other things, like music player, games, browsing, texting, etc. Even the new app of making it a remote would be better served if it was a touch screen, like some have done with their remotes.

I am in favor of a Curve/iPhone blend!

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1458 days ago

What if it had a slide out keyboard for those times you needed it?

 
 
Posted by D_Town Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1458 days ago

AND i would much rather RIM concentrate on the memory issues than a touchscreen!lol

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1458 days ago

I don't even understand why RIM released phones like the pearl and such, that don't have a real keyboard. They suck for email, which is RIM's strongest feature.

Why can't they release a phone that has both a keyboard and touchscreen? The little round joystick button sucks for web navigation, RIM can't touch the iPhone. So they could release a phone like the bold and just make the screen touch sensitive so you can use your finger for browsing and to use the UI, and use the keyboard only for typing - as it should be.

 
 
Posted by CBR900RR Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1458 days ago

Curve size.

Touch screen with the 4 button on the front and 8700's scroll wheel on the right side.

Slide out full qwerty keyboard, tilt screen, with the track ball.

 
 
Posted by stewdaddy Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1458 days ago

No thanks. I had a Treo for a couple of years and Palm PDA's for years before that and the touch screen is cool and can be useful. So maybe a hybrid like the Treo's setup would be good. I really like actual buttons (keyboard), so the full screen option wouldn't excite me. Everytime I've held an I phone I'm both amazed--and scared I'm going to scratch it or drop it. I need a phone/pda that does all I need it to do but that I can also drop into my pocket.

Kickstart anyone??????

 
 
Posted by jkinslow Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1457 days ago

Would there really be a point to make a "Touch Screen Blackberry" if it wasn't for the I-Phone ??? is RIM really trying to make a new device or just trying to compete with the I-Phone.....The BOLD will do that on its own........

 
 
Posted by Lisa Duke Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1457 days ago

I'd love to see one. Most of our business is built around services and software for the BlackBerry, and right now there are a few objections this would immediately help us overcome. First and foremost, signature capture. Clients would love to be able to key in an order and have the client sign, and while Bluetooth pens are an option, those who are legacy Palm users really want to be able to sign the screen. Additionally, if there were a touch screen, RIM could make a number pad on the screen with nice big numbers for those whose vision is not what it used to be 40 years ago.

The only reason against I can think of? You will loose any stylus that comes with the device....

 
 
Posted by KASG Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1457 days ago

NO #4: Could put a dent in wallets, Corporate coffers
Most long-time/hardcore/business BB users will definitely stay with QWERTY BB. It is because most of the time they need to reply an email quickly or drop down a short note on the run. Touch screen is not the best option for them to do such tasks. Please don't forget, having a touch screen BB available doesn't necessarily mean that every company in the world will start issuing their users with touch screen one and completely ignore the existence of QWERTY BB. They will only choose the best and/or cheapest option to get their work done. As long as the companies have total control on what type of BB their users will get, "dent in wallet" is minimal.

NO #3: Headaches for IT Departments
If your NO #4 wasn't always true, the IT Department should not worry about too much at this point. I am not sure why your article sounded like every IT staff would have to rush to get the touch screen BB right away like there is no tomorrow. Before deploying every new equipment to its end users, IT staff (ideally) will always test the product and offer some sort of training to the end users. Once again, touch screen BB is not practical for business users who heavily rely on QWERTY keypad to make throughout their days. Companies will always have their final word on what type of BB their users should get. Therefore, IT Depart. will evaluate the pros and cons before changing to another device form factor. And all of your NO #3 should have been considered in the planning and deployment stage. Without putting them into consideration before releasing a touch screen BB, their IT department should have been replaced or even fired in the first place.

NO #2: It's a failure unless it's Better than the iPhone
I have to completely disagree with your points. There are so many factors to make iPhone better (better? very subjective term) than its "copycats." Such as Apple’s brand recognition, best industry marketing team that Apple has, strong multimedia capability, and etc. I wouldn't think any of these devices that came out after iPhone are failure. All of these devices do serve their users well in their own ways. For instance, HTC's Touch, a very popular full touch screen WM pda that was released about the same time as iPhone. Touch's touchflo 3D interface was once criticized as the copycat of iPhone's UI. So? iPhone didn't make it a failure; so far, it has been sold for more than several millions worldwide. The enhanced version of Touch - Touch Diamond has been announced recently. In this industry, we need innovation. Although Apple once has set the standard so high for others to follow, it doesn't mean other manufacturers should be back out and not introduce any new products to the market. I'd say if RIM ever comes out with a touch screen BB, we should give them credit for making its first step into new direction of product development. Nobody at RIM will really know how the market will react to its first touch screen BB if it never got released. Getting first time right is not so practical in any industries these days. One step a time, especially if you are the new guy on the street.

NO #1: Anything that threatens RIM’s Strong Brand Image is a Big No-No
RIM is not that popular everywhere in the world, especially in APAC due to Blackberry’s high service cost and its very subjective looking form factor. How many users in India, my friend? Less than 100,000, FYI. Should RIM just give up all the troubles of dealing with India’s DOT and abandon the whole market there? The answer is no. RIM sees its potential, not only business user there but also the increasingly large consumer market base. The reason that RIM got huge sales and market share boost in the recent years is because of the introduction of Pearl, Curve, and soon-to-be-released Bold, but not their traditional line of BB (87xx and 88xx). Many of the new users chose BB simply because of its strong messaging hardware platform as well as its multimedia capabilities (camera, media player, GPS, Wi-Fi.) There are always some degrees of risk for doing business in any industry. We all know windows OS dominate 90% of the market. Should M$ just be happy and let others catch up and pass them? No. (Although Vista is not any better than XP in many ways, but at least they tried.) RIM was once viewed as a very conservative/traditional type of company that makes unattractive messaging devices. I am dared to say no teenage will ever consider a BB before RIM introduced the Pearl line couple years ago. Should have RIM’s management ever considered all the risks of releasing a totally new product line several years ago? I think the answer is definitely a yes. No pay, no gain! If RIM was so chicken several years ago, they wouldn’t be they are now for sure.

 
 
Posted by bobojay Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1457 days ago

I've used some friends of ours I-Phone, and to me the way the phone interfaces with the user is a great idea, but it doesn't work for me because my fingertips are too big.
I like the idea of the mouse ball ala Pearl. That works for me and my wife.
Rim might have a good idea with the touch screen model, but only if they want to offer something for every taste.

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1457 days ago

I agree with all comments. I think a Curve with a touch screen would be a killer device!
I also think you can't ignore goolephone when you discuss RIM's need to be competitive in the commercial and business market now and into the future!

 
 
Posted by sphynx Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1457 days ago

A Curve with a Touch screen (or a slide-out keyboard)? A killer phone! A full touch screen (like the iPhone) reminds me of the XDA II days... things gets jumpy when you need to act fast, like when you have to get the message on the air ASAP!

 
 
Posted by matty1124 Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1457 days ago

honestly i dont think i would have gotten my curve if it had a touch screen... why mess with a good thing... i love it cause its proven to work... if i get another phone call from my dad cause his palm dialed my number through his touch screen in his pocket im going to kill him... touch screens are a nice gimic and all but really who cares

 
 
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Posted by David B Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1457 days ago

I don't get what took so long for the Bold. I mean, REALLY, it's just a Curve with a higher res screen and a re-styled exterior casing. There's nothing revolutionary about a Bold, merely evolutionary.

Now, a touch screen device (aka "Thunder"???) COULD be revolutionary for RIM. Being able to use it portrait mode aka Pearl (sans keys but with touch) or flip it horizontal to use it landscape (with RIM's take on slide out full QWERTY) has the chance to revolutionize the Blackberry nation. ESPECIALLY if offered both with and not with camera, so that one device can meet both the consumer AND corporate need. There's a LOT of people still hanging on to 7xxx full QWERTY devices because 88xx keyboard is lacking in quality (and lets face it, 87xx just plain bites its so bulky) and they can't have a Curve because of the camera.

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1457 days ago

ATT NETWORK WAS NOT READY FOR 3G ! THATS WHY ! THE BOLD WOULD HAVE BEEN OUT YEARS AGO..

 
 
Posted by ginya-san Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1457 days ago

As of late I've noticed touch screens gaining a grand social obsession. I personally have lost all interest in touch screens.. I had a PCC6700 and found it horridly annoying. I'd put my phone in my bag and it'd call people, applications would open up. Even if I locked the screen. So while I never put much thought into why RIM hasn't come out with a touch screen trust me their nothing special. I'd pass even if they did. -Also the software for the handwriting recognition doesn't work that well. I could never use it with out correcting everything.

 
 
Posted by SebasC Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1457 days ago

Right now i think a touch screen would be a bad move, first of all its inlogical for a Blackberry unless they can perfect an touch screen keyboard.

What RIM needs is just a sturdy phone that has it all. Touch screen is still steps away from perfection when you think of it.

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1456 days ago

I don't think a touch screen berry would ruin anything for RIM. They already have very capable devices for those who love their keyboards or smart phones with keyboards in general. Providing a touch screen berry could only help them diversify their phone line up and possibly reach a different audience. If they can produce a touch screen berry for cheaper than an iphone and have it available for different carries I bet it will be a great success.